I have found many complaints about the Ebay Purse Discussion Board and tPF but, since most of those seemed to have gotten out of control, I thought a new thread was in order.
I never posted to the Ebay Purse Discussion Board but I have spent time reading posts over the last year or so. Many of the ladies there were valuable sources of information. The problem I had was that I had to sift through post after post crap to get to the informative posts. I saw people post what they felt were honest questions or responses to questions ridiculed and harassed. What purpose does that serve? Even if the questions seemed "stupid" or the person asking it was less than gracious at reading something they didn't want to read, wouldn't using the "ignore" feature be the adult thing to do? Reacting to bad behavior with bad behavior makes one wonder who the "bad" party is. I have seen sellers ask questions that the "boardies" apparently thought was beneath them to answer but then answered anyway with insults.
While I am not a big fan of "rules", I understand that rules are made when supposedly responsible adults prove they need to be policed. Griff posted some clarified rules for posting to the board. Apparently someone somewhere felt that if posters were going to behave like children, they should be treated like children. Is it fair? I suppose it is about as fair as being harassed in a discussion forum. Upon reading these rules, the ladies went ballistic. They accused one seller for making this happen. Then they accused anyone that spoke out about the harassment of that seller (and others) on the board of being that one seller (including me). Paranoid much?
They turned to auctionbytes.com to state their case as many of the "boardies" were "pink slapped" and some were indefinately sanctioned from the boards. Some of the posts there got out of hand. Wild accusations about who was who were posted by several (or was it one with different posting IDs?). It got to be so ridiculous that Ina shut off their comments on her blog. They blamed the one poster for getting them sanctioned (couldn't be their posts that got them sanctioned, right?), Griff for making rules that made it supposedly impossible to authenticate purses (funny, there are several making the system work the best that they can), counterfeit sellers for their harassment of top-rated sellers...and the list goes on.
So, what is a bunch bored "bordies" to do you ask? Well, let me tell you. They go to other sites like Ina's blog on auctionbytes.com (before she shut of their comments, that is), the Purse Forum, YouTube, and this site and begin to harass the seller that they feel caused them all this grief. They have posted her name (I assume it's her real name), her seller ID, the state in which she lives (I assume she really lives there). They have harassed and belittled her (and her family) in their vicious posts. Yet they wonder why they have beened banned (whether temporarily or permanently). They attacked Griff as if their viciousness was somehow his fault (or ebay's). And, let us not forget that they have accused numerous people of being either Griff or this certain seller. Sometimes a poster to a discussion can be both of them at the same time (seems the ladies don't always agree).
I hope the "boardies" find what it is that is lacking in their lives that makes them behave as though they are the only ones that have the right to be angry by this mess. If you are really looking for a target ladies, try your mirror. You got your hands slapped. So what? Put on your big girl panties and deal with it!
And before you continue your attack (through your posts or your pending "lawsuit") you might want to read the following (I found it rather informative):
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If you are still buying or selling on Ebay, you might want to ask yourself if your account can be connected to the posts I mentioned above.
I copied from a post made on another thread by Bag in the Saddle (I hope you don't mind Bag):
One last snag from the TPF tonight.
Joined: Sep 2007Posts: 221
Originally Posted by dolali
Why does this person seem to have so much power? Who is she? It is AMAZING that a coropration like ebay listens to her!
And, I agree with other posters: all ebay cares these days is money, regardless of where it comes from). It has lost its values, integrity and honesty - if it ever had them.
I'm with you. Personally, I think the reason she has so much is that she wrote to EBay and Griff under lots and lots of different names, as well as recruiting other members to do the same. One thing we know is that she uses lots of names and has lots of energy and lots of words. I think it was just a barrage and they were convinced by the sheer number. That's my theory anyway.
Let me help you a little bit here ladies:
Mark my words, this isn't the work of just one person. I have been lurking on the eBay purse board for a year. Ebay doesn't respond to the complaints of one (or just a few) as you well know. This is several years worth of many sellers and posters crying foul. What gives her (and the others that are sick of being bullied and harassed) so much power is...YOU.
You women have harassed this seller and posted her personal information all over the internet. You aren't turning buyers away from her as this behavior takes any and all credibility away from your claims that she sells fakes or is shill bidding. Honestly, you make me want to buy a purse from her. When anyone is targeted on several websites mercilessly and endlessly, it makes me wonder what the harassers are really trying to accomplish. I recall one poster posting a picture of one of this sellers items on the eBay board and asking why she was making so much less than your "favorite seller" on pre-owned Coach bags. At this point it seemed to me that the hate for this seller had nothing to do with fakes, shill bidding or a buying guide. Those are just handy excuses you all use because you think it will work better than the truth. Try this one on for size: We all hate (insert sellers name here) because she isn't one of us, yet she is a top-rated seller with an excellent track record who gets top dollar for her handbags. There, now doesn't the truth feel better?
I won't even dignify the multiple posting ID subject with a paragraph here...that is, unless you ladies really want me to?
Wow Bag, I don't even know how to respond to that post. Could you post the link so we can see it in all its shamefulness. I would really love to read it. I can tell you that she is alot nicer than I would have been if someone had falsely accused me and had my listing removed. I am sure the "boardies" would not have been so gracious if the tables had been turned.
I find this all so very sad and pathetic. It's no wonder the purse board got a face lift. It was terribly ugly underneath. Uglier than I would have ever suspected after a year of reading posts there.
I am still trying to wrap my mind around the poster who is posting personal information under many IDs in any public forum she can find. The name "Sybil" comes to mind. Is she a banned member of the purse board? Does she think her insane behavior will some how get her back on the boards?
I have noticed one thing though. If she ever had any friends on the board, they have completely abandoned her. I have noticed on all of the public forums no one seems to address her odd behavior or back it up as we have seen the boardies do for each other time and time again. I guess without friends she has plenty of time for stalking and dreaming up new posting IDs.
I feel sorry for you flyincoach688. I truly hope that there is still someone left in your life that still cares enough to get you the psychological help you so desperately need. While many stalkers view their actions within a delusional framework and therefore see no need to get help, a few do actually approach professionals. I hope that you are one of those few.
Try this resource:
I saw that HolyCanoli...and I hope you are you're wrong but I don't have much confidence in that either. Sad.
Well HolyCanoli, I cannot say why they do it (what benefit they were getting from their posts, etc.) but I can say that the board is a much more pleasurable place to read these days.
I also do not know anything about their expertise per se, but I do know that some of the behavior (and I can only speak for what I have actually seen) was far from professional. It's hard to take someone seriously when they feel that "rude or snide remarks" as you put it, are the way to get your point across. Far from it!
My sincere hope is that this thread can remain civil and be a place where honest opinions (both for and against my original post) can be "voiced" without fear of harassment or intimidation tactics. Name calling and many of the accusations I have seen flying around in other sites are juvenile at best. It's like being in junior high school again. I am not afraid of being called names (sticks and stones and all that) it just makes it difficult to have a reasonable adult discussion.
Anyway, thank you for your input. And don't worry about them coming in to attack me for having an opinion. I have my big girl panties on as well as some really great boots!
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