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Santander Consumer USA review: get real 93

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Look loosers, all of you who are complaining about santander are horrible customers anyway. I mean all of you are complaining about interest than its your own fault due to the fact of your credit being bad! Thats how most of yall became santander customers in the first place. Santander only finances sub-prime customers (last chance financing) and yes they give high inerest rats buts there is no one else to blame but your self. Also if you paid your bills on time than they would have no reason to call you and when they do its collections your speaking to, not customer service... And yes there is a huge difference between the two. Also you will be charged a daily per diem if your late, thats called a daily simple interest loan and you agreed to it when you signed the contract. Heres a noble idea, if you just contact santander if your haveing difficulty making your payment and guess what they will work with you but if you dont, dont sit there and complain when they call you because you owe them money... Its called common sence people... Stop crying and pay your bills!

Update by johnsantander
Apr 15, 2011 3:04 pm EDT

i had rather be bad at spelling than crying on this page how its santanders fault that i cant pay my bills on time... wow you all you can comment on is my spelling... classic, you must be one of the loosers that cant pay their bills

Update by johnsantander
Apr 20, 2011 2:52 am EDT

Boo hoo! Looks like more of you losers are still crying! Look I highly encourage anyone to contact a lawyer, go ahead and waist your time. SANTANDER has never broken ANY LAW, every single call is recorded and reviewed. I guess I have to repete myself, pay your bills on time like responsible adults and you WILL NOT be in collections... DUHHH Also Santander is CLOSED on Sunday's, and please SHUT UP about the CITI buy out, they couldn't get you losers to pay so of course they went out of business ( CITI AUTO DIVISION). Also I do have a real job, unlike most of santanders customers, to be completly honest I make more than 95% of santanders customers so please stop embarrassing yourself. Oh and look at any other sub prim lender and they will have just as many " complaints" as Santander.

Update by johnsantander
Apr 20, 2011 3:03 am EDT

Oh and before I forget... Your right there has NEVER been a time in history where thousands of people were wrong.

Update by johnsantander
Apr 21, 2011 12:37 am EDT

Ok, what makes all of you losers mad is that I'm telling the truth and you don't like what I'm saying. Also, please send this to as many people you want at Santander, but you might be wasting your time because Santander monitors this forum closely. What I don't understand is, why not refinance with another company if you hate Santander so bad? Now some of you deadbeat losers might not be able to refinance, which is understandable because YOUR CREDIT SUCKS. Now if this is the case, guess what, YOU DON'T DESERVE A VEHICLE AND YOUR STUCK WITH Santander so suck it up and pay your bills on time! Also every conversation that a collections agent has with any customer is well documented, and 3000 employees can see any "notes" that anyone writes on an account. If an agent acts like they don't know what your talking than that's called strategy, so they can catch you lying idiots in your constant lies. Oh and before I forget, Santander attempted to notify every single citi customer, if you idiotic losers would read your contract at the dealership instead of seeing something shiny that you obviously can't afford than you would know that a lender can sell your contract to ANYONE they choose as long as they abide by the terms of the original contract. Santander have NEVER violated any contract or broken any laws especially when it comes to the FDCPA. So please, call me any name you want because I don't care in fact I'm smiling and laughing right now because I pay my bills on time and I have NOTHING to complain about. By the way the economy has been "bad" for a very long time so stop using it as an excuse as why you can't make your payment on time.

Update by johnsantander
Apr 21, 2011 12:43 am EDT

Oops I forgot to be sarcastic... Yes my real name is John Santander and of course I work for Santander I mean how else could I possibly know about consumer lending or collections practices. We all know there is nothing on the Internet or the library about it. Please...

Update by johnsantander
Apr 21, 2011 12:52 am EDT

Yea, you have a degree... You must be an expert! Ha, by the way a degree from the university of phoenix is like being the first place finisher at the special olympics!

Update by johnsantander
Apr 21, 2011 4:31 am EDT

Good job on copy and paste hero... Did you learn that in paralegal school mr smart guy... Don't you have like 128 comments on boards like these yet no complaint of your own... Hmmmm maybe you are a Santander customer... Let this get out, I mean unless something changed in the last 5 min we live in America and I am free citizen with my own opinion and I can express my opinion about you losers any way I want. Oh and currently any collection that calls a delinquent customer is located in AMERICA and yes in the south " y'all " is a word and it's used often. If you don't like it than please shut your Yankee but up!

Update by johnsantander
Apr 21, 2011 1:11 pm EDT

Ok, look if you make a decent salary than that usually means your intelligent enough to know what a savings account... No excuse.. if you make more than 50k a year and still live pay check to pay check than u don't deserve that job! Hey guys seriously I never said I worked at Santander, which I don't, so stop trying to blame an entire companys actions on me. Now listen, I know how Santander operates because I'm smart enough to ask questions I don't just assume, or just jump to conclusions because I'm emotional. Also if I'm going through a rough time I don't look for anyone or anything to blame, I self reflect to see how my actions caused my particular situation. Santander is a company who's goal is to make money, not pander to a bunch of low lifes who can't take responsibility for their own actions.

Update by johnsantander
Apr 22, 2011 1:53 am EDT

Ok I will tell everyone here my real name my real phone number if they can please tell me one car dealership owned by SANTANDER... news flash Santander is a finance company, they don't care one bit about the vehicle, all they care about is the loan. DUH!

Update by johnsantander
Apr 22, 2011 3:12 am EDT

You are right, this is a complaints board, so why don't you people actualy complain about something instead of whining like 5 year old children. Wake up! Santander would of been shut down years ago if ANYTHING any of Y'ALL (yes I did say y'all and I said it on purpose) said were true. There are more lies on this board than a first date. Before I forget, if you are financing a vehicle than guess what? THAT VEHICLE IS NOT YOURS, untill you pay it off and get the title. @enoughsenough I really don't care about resume, tell + jdh + since apparenty he wants to get in your pants. I am on this board to bring you losers back down to reality. I have nothing but respect for Santander especially if they have to put with you ###s!
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Update by johnsantander
Apr 22, 2011 3:56 am EDT

Really... Last year... Hahaha... If you only knew what you were talking about. I wish I did work for Santander but sad to say I don't. If there are so many "cases" aginst Santander than why isn't it in the news and why do they continue to grow faster as a finance company than any other finance company in the history of this country. Look if everyone has such an issue with this company than just refinance with another company or pay off your loans... It's way to simple, but noooo you idiots had rather whine and cry in the Internet than do anything productive to solve your problems.

Update by johnsantander
Apr 22, 2011 1:10 pm EDT

wow +jdh+ I think you might want to invest in some anger management classes, calm down high speed it's just the Internet and just a complaints board. Getting this defensive over a company doesnt make your argument very strong. Now, looks like I have to say this again, I DO NOT WORK FOR SANTANDER, but it doesn't really matter because even if I did I'm sure I would still defend them. Now it's extreamly hard for me to believe that all of a sudden everyone thinks that the citi accounts are being handeled any different than they were at citi. I say this because all the citi employes came to Santander with the buy out. In fact most of the citi employees only work citi accounts, sane thing goes for HSBC, DRIVE, ROAD LOANS, SOVEREIGN, TRIAD and UNITED AUTO CREDIT. The employes for those companies mainly only their original accounts. Now listen the fact you had to pay more at ur maturity date is because you were late on ur payment during the course of your loan ( daily simple interest). Why the heck didn't you just send what money you had, regardless of the balance or the pay off. You have the ability to forecast wether or not your going to have a balloon payment at maturity atleast a year out (by calling in or online) why didn't you plan accordingly? Also you can request a maturity remodfication 2-3 months before the maturity so u don't have to come up with such a large balance at the end of your loan and save the credit hit. This is extremely easy to do, and there is no one to blame but yourself if this does happen to you. Oh by the way, why on earth would I waste my time to tell all of this to your face, I mean come on I'm sure your spouse knows your a looser by now so I wouldn't be telling your spouse anything new. Since you got so defensive I'm sure you marriage is going very well so please seek couples therapy and don't take ur failed marriage out on this board because no Santander customer has any advanced degree in anything useful otherwise they wouldn't be Santander customers. DUH...
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Update by johnsantander
Apr 22, 2011 1:46 pm EDT

Thank you for proving my point, they have been around for more than year... Oh and just because u have a certification in phlebotomy doesn't mean your a doctor. Community college all stars always think they have something to prove to the rest of us who have a real 4 year degree. Do me a favor un mount that high horse your on, remove the broom handle from your butt ( your in the health care field you know that's not healthy) and come back to reality.

Update by johnsantander
Apr 22, 2011 6:41 pm EDT

Lifelnr... Do you honestly care where I went to school... I seriously doubt it. Besides it's way to easy to critise my writing ability if you can't come up with a good rebutle to my solution/argument. You criticizing my ability to communicate is a mute point when were talking about these dead beats ability to pay their loans. Hey! I want my thank you! I deserve it! I have given everybody a good viable solution to each complaint on this board, now if you all can look past the fact I called you all losers and deadbeats ( which you all are) and take my advise than you wouldn't have any issues with SANTANDER. @ergh, who are you trying to impress, I mean I honestly could care less where u work or what ur degree is. I mean are you trying to justify your career choice to yourself... People who do that are usually not very happy with their life choices. I'm guessing your credit sucks hence your involvement with SANTANDER it's ok you still have time to fix it but please don't take it out on everybody else.

Update by johnsantander
Apr 23, 2011 12:55 am EDT

Lies lies lies... And some silly, albeit clever song by our old friend +jdh+ look losers, Santander has collection agents they ARE NOT customer service! If you can't pay the full amount that is due on an account when they call and ask for it than guess what YOU ARE REFUSING TO PAY! It's very simple. As far as passwords for your online account, if you call and ask for Santander to e-mail you a temporary password than guess what they have to e-mail the account servicing unit in Dallas tx and they are the ones who reset passwords. Keep in mind Santander on any given day has over 400k accounts just in collections. If you don't get it e-mail fast enough than just wait and remember what ur grandmother told you, patience is a virtue. Or you can call back and ask them nicely to send it again. Oh and I didn't realize it's standers fault ur husband is spineless I guess you should write and explain that to them so they can hold your hand and say sorry. Deferments, your account has to be over 30 days past due and you can't of had one in the last 6 months to qualify for a deferment, it's not that they refuse to give you, Santander must decide if it is in the companies best interest to grant a deferment. Especially if Santander just gave you one and it still didn't catch the account up. Santander is a company, who goal is to make money just like every other red blooded American on this board. I was never a Marine nor do I work for SANTANDER... I wish I did just so some of you would shut up about it.

Update by johnsantander
Apr 23, 2011 1:45 am EDT

Refinance! Duh!

Update by johnsantander
Apr 23, 2011 2:27 am EDT

Refinance with another company

Update by johnsantander
Apr 24, 2011 2:04 am EDT

Ok apparently you can't read, that is santanders policy. Most finance companies have policy's that regard deferments. Oh and almost everything you just wrote is a complete LIE, do you really expect me to believe and of that crap. Look, SANTANDER uses Western Union to schedule and take payments, and they charge Santander to use their services so they in turn charge the customer. If you don't like to pay to make ur payments than first bring ur account current then set ur account on auto draft and they won't charge you a dime. If you don't like late fees than don't pay late, DUH! ###!

Update by johnsantander
Apr 24, 2011 2:11 am EDT

You don't have to work for a company or have someone related to you to know how a company works. It's called asking questions and using ur brain. Everything I know about this company came from me calling [protected] and asking the nice person a question and every time I call they are more than happy to help me and answer all my questions.

Update by johnsantander
Apr 24, 2011 8:10 pm EDT

Yes your right, everyone is against you and the world is sooo in fair oh my goodness what are we to do. Poor you! Oh what a horrible life you must have, maybe you should move home to your moms house so she can protect you from this horrible unfair world. Look I pay for all my vehicles in cash, I never finance anything. Look if your just going to lie on this board than please put your creativeness to a better use like a rousing game of D AND D. Trust me, I have read all of the lies oops I mean complaints on this site and nothing strikes me as valid so please stop whining and grow up and be responsible

Update by johnsantander
Apr 25, 2011 12:20 am EDT

You don't want the truth because you don't want things to change, y'all had much rather complain about stuff that is sooo easy to fix. Oh and I bet u 20 dollars you can call up there and ask them anything you want and they will answer you.

Update by johnsantander
Apr 25, 2011 3:57 am EDT

@ enoughsenough ok since you didn't call me a name or act childish like most losers on this post I will be honest with you. I said earlier that Santander uses a third party to process payments (western union speed pay) well they can't post date any payments past 10 from the day you call in or past the end of the month if your more than 30 days past due. There are a few exceptions but none that apply here. Also if you post date a check of any kind than it will take 2-3 business days to hit your account also they won't send it electronically to your bank until 1121 that night of the date the check is suppose to come out. If you want an automatic payment than use ur bank or call back on the day you want to pay and use ur debit card (yes they can waive payment fees they just don't like doing it) as far as documents go... No collection agent has the ability to mail anything they can see your documents (dependent on which finance company you originally had before the buy out eg citi, Hsbc, triad... Through a system called optica) but even a manager can't mail anything out. You need to ask them to e-mail the ASU department ( account servicing unit) in order to have anything mailed. And no you can't call them because they don't accept calls from customers but you need to follow up daily otherwise it could take a long time for them to get to you in their que. Also every time you call, it's recorded and documented... Their system is so that they can't continue working unless they document the call. They are trained to have the purpose of the call and the reason for delinquency recorded every time you call in, also they will act like they don't know what you are talking in order to catch a customer in a lie or see any inconsistency from the previous conversation, just ask them to check their ACTIVITY NOTES. Please dispute any credit report issues with transition or equifax or which ever u want.

Update by johnsantander
Apr 25, 2011 7:44 pm EDT

Santander hires very few CSR'S, the majority of their employees are collections agents, wether it be front end 1-40 days past due, mid range 40-60 days past due or backend 60-120 days past due. They do go through a formal week long training period and yes they are trained as I described earlier. Keep in mind now a large majority of their current staff came from the other companies that they acquired and Santander did not retrain them in collection practices. The most aggressive collectors came from HSBC, united auto credit and CITI. Santander is a servicer of the loans and they employ in house collections and alot of people disagree on how they do business but the truth of the fact is that it works and they turn a huge profit. If the people you talk to their seem irrate than keep in mind they get cussed out and screamed at on a hourly basis. I guess you have to put yourself in their shoes to understand. If you have issue with the agent just ask to speak to their manager.

Update by johnsantander
Apr 27, 2011 3:54 pm EDT

Lol! I DO NOT WORK FOR SANTANDER, my affiliation with that company is exactly as I described in previous posts. You don't have to believe me, it doesn't really bother me that you think I'm lying but I am being honest with thier policies and procedures. I haven't called anyone specific by name when I say losers or deadbeats and I have yet to use any profanities. But my overall point is proven over and over again by you comments and remarks so please keep it going because we know how blaming others solves all problems.

Update by johnsantander
Apr 27, 2011 9:14 pm EDT

What did u ask them that they didn't answer?

Update by johnsantander
Apr 28, 2011 1:13 pm EDT

You have absolutely no idea what your talking about... Funny though!

Update by johnsantander
Apr 28, 2011 6:33 pm EDT

@ duh sparky, you might want to delete your last post, you just made yourself look very dumb.

Update by johnsantander
Apr 30, 2011 12:21 am EDT

That info is neither informative or useful... But good job on using copy and paste!

Update by johnsantander
Jun 20, 2011 4:20 am EDT

Hi! It's been awhile, have you missed me!

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lifelrnr
, US
Apr 20, 2011 1:51 pm EDT
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'John Santander' (give me a break), I think I'll send this entire post to your boss's bosses at the top so they can see what a fine employee you are and the kind of image you are projecting for the company. They'll take great comfort in knowing that you are hot on the case is their defense. I just know they are going to thank you for all of this, maybe even make you employee of the year! :D (Don't thank me...this is going to be a pleasure!)

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FDL_HOU
Houston, US
Apr 20, 2011 11:07 am EDT
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Not one person who would defend a boytomfeeding company so much would have any other interest than in working for them. How would you know so much about the company practices, [censored]? So how many customers did you lie to yesterday, [censored]bag? Funny how it works when people call you degenerates you seem to have a solution to the customers problem and lo and behold the customer calls again and there is no record of that conversation...hmmmm By your own definition, if you make more than the 95% of the customers of Santander, you are a LOSER as you claim.

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GruntGruntGRRRRRR
, US
Apr 19, 2011 6:58 pm EDT
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The truth is if everyone would just look up "Consumer Law Attorney, " in your location, in an on-line search and CALL THEM (get an attorney to tell you if you have a case or not) instead of complaining on here. (I'm not saying that it is a waste of time.) But get the right person to hear you instead of this person.
Ford is the one who "hooked" me up with Santander and it was only because they wouldn't listen to my bank (which the very next week re-financed the vehicle to get it away from Santander).
Well, the long and short of it is...Santander's practices are illegal! They have broken just about every Consumer Law there is and the attorney will get paid out of the lawsuit I have against them. No money out of my pocket. So if you think that you can not afford an attorney - change the way you think, one is out there for you.
I have kept record of every conversation and phone call with Santander (my bank recorded it while we were on 3-way phone calls.) They do not have a leg to stand on! So if this is the little bit of "grunt" that someone needs to think they can do to same then here is your grunt. My vehicle was paid off (cleared check) and the website shows it having a $0 balance, I received the title and release of lien letter in the mail, and I'm still receiving letters demanding payment.
Time is running out for Santander, they have 2 weeks to settle out of court. Don't take what they are dishing out, call a Consumer Attorney today.

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lifelrnr
, US
Apr 19, 2011 5:26 pm EDT
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Hi Paidontime. Santander is part of a larger problem in America's financial services industry. It reminds me of mortgage brokers before the mortgage meltdown who loaned money to anyone who had a pulse. But when the interest rates reset, people could no longer afford their mortgages and lost their homes as a result. So here we are today living in an America whose credit was downgraded again yesterday by Standard & Poors.

It makes sense to me that companies Like Santander have collections departments full of clowns like JohnSantander. People with any sense of ethics would look for work elsewhere. JohnSantander probably doesn't know the definition of 'ethics'...and probably can't spell it, either :D

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PaidonTime
Myrtle Beach, US
Apr 19, 2011 4:10 pm EDT

I agree with you lielrnr, he's on another message board as well as JohnSmith...posted the same exact paragraph, riddled with errors etc...he's not worth my time. I'm absolutely shocked at the amount of Santander complaints...absolutely shocked.

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lifelrnr
, US
Apr 19, 2011 4:04 pm EDT
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Paidontime, he's not worth anymore of anyone's time. His real name probably isn't even Santander; he probably works in their collections department. He's just a kid that tried to carry on a grownup conversation and tried to stick up for his company like every good boy should. But this time he bit off more than he could chew. I haven't heard from him since (maybe Mommy and Daddy took away his internet :D

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PaidonTime
Myrtle Beach, US
Apr 19, 2011 1:19 pm EDT

I'm gonna follow this douchbag around on this board. To insult people is ridiculous. And just like I posted on another string, here it is again...
Wow, JohnSantander, I'm guessing by your last name you are affiliated with them. Doesn't surprise me by the use of the word "losers", which, might I point out you misspelled along with several other words, yea, I'm almost positive you work there. I like how you referred to Santander's "rates" as "rats", I'm sure unintentional, however, quite appropriate. I absolutely did not, on any level choose Santander as my lender, like many other people on this forum. I have never signed any sort of contract with Santander and nor would I have had I seen paperwork regarding any sort of daily compounding interest rates, that is absurd. I was a solid CitiFinancial customer for years when my loan was sold to Santander. My invoices come saying my account is "past due", how is that possible when the monthly statement arrives BEFORE the due date and all previous payments were EARLY or on time. When you call the number, there isn't even an option of getting a person on the phone. I spoke to one person about my mysterious fees and received one explanation and then spoke to another person about those same mysterious fees and received another explanation. It's a tangled web of phone numbers and poorly trained CSR's. To make a payment online, Santander charges a $10 fee, in this day and age where I can scan a check with my cell phone to be deposited into my bank account immediately, a $10 fee for an online payment is absolutely ridiculous. Your comments are very bold, obtuse and judgmental. People have problems and a lot of time it is no fault of their own. Perhaps, if Santander did offer a grace period rather than taking on fee after fee after fee, those very subprime borrowers that have bad credit would be able to turn their lives around, make right with the loan and everyone is happy. Santander is the most ridiculous finance company I have ever encountered and I've been in finance for twenty years, I've also run financed based call centers. Santander needs to start from the ground up, retrain the CSR's and regroup. Perhaps when the bulk purchased the CitiFinancial customers, a courtesy call could have been made or a welcome packet sent, start out with your new customers on the right foot, rather than sending them a bill that makes no sense. Get off your high horse and come back to reality. The FACTS are that the complaint boards are RIDDLED with posts about Santander, 1000's of people can't be wrong, especially those with outstanding payment history like myself.

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Consumer16
Miami, US
Apr 19, 2011 1:08 am EDT

Can Santander call you on Sunday's? Also, can they speak to anyone else other than the consumer who signed the contract about the payment arrangements that have been made? And, can they run credit checks however often they wish? Couldn't agree more with the comments made about these unprofessional, rude ###!

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lifelrner
, US
Apr 16, 2011 2:48 pm EDT

Angry rant, Brenda? You are being too kind to him, my friend. He speaks to his entire industry of bottom-feeder lenders and collectors. I think his mommy and daddy really should watch what he does online, maybe even ground him from the computer. (come on Mom & Dad, parental controls please!) Here's the facts, Johnny Boy: If you haven't been living in a cave the last few years, you would know that there are a lot of good people, businesses and nations with bad credit right now. As for me, I have spent the last five years of my life studying micro and macroeconomics, finance and everything related to global business. That alone gives me at the very least a qualified perspective and the right to tell you and everyone else here what a complete loser YOU are. You are right about one thing though, you said, ". I mean all of you are complaining about interest than its your own fault due to the fact of your credit being bad! thats how most of yall became santander customers in the first place. Santander only finances sub-prime customers (last chance financing) and yes they give high inerest rats buts there is no one else to blame but your self..." (Johnny Boy, 2011).

By practical standards, Santander IS a sub-prime lender and their interest rates amount to predatory lending...just on the legal side of the cloudy grey line. Santander is aggressively selling these loans because squeezing blood out of turnips is integral to their core business model: to take advantage of desperate consumers. And then of course, Santander has a workforce of grammar school dropouts just like the individual we're dealing with here.

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FDL_HOU
Houston, US
Apr 16, 2011 1:15 am EDT
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And the word is l-o-s-e-r, you ###ing illiterate lowlife.

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FDL_HOU
Houston, US
Apr 16, 2011 1:13 am EDT
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Johnsantander you must be one of those lowlife bottomfeeding trsah employees who fraudulently and knowingly scam people. I pay cash for my cars, ###face. I do know people who are unfortunate enough to be lied to by that [censored]hole fraud of a company.

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lifelrnr
, US
Apr 15, 2011 3:14 pm EDT
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Aren't you at all embarrassed that you have the spelling and grammar of a 3rd-grader? You really should go back to school before trying to communicate with the grown-ups, okay? You work at that sleazy job of yours because you can't get a job working anywhere else. Have you ever heard of spell-check?

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FDL_HOU
Houston, US
Apr 15, 2011 3:12 am EDT
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Who should we blame for your horrible spelling turdbucket?