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men in women's dressing room's

Complaint Rating:  53 % with 15 votes
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Palmdale, California
United States
i was at JCPenney today with my wife and she was looking for a summer dress, she found the dress she wanted and picked up two different sizes. we walked to the nearest dressing room and she went in to try them on, after about 30 seconds she calls out to me "i cant get the dress zipped up, my arm's cant reach that far back", so i got up and went into the dressing room to help her. After i zipped the dress up i exited the dressing room and so did she to look at her self in the gigger outside mirror, when she was done we both went back into the dressing room again.

About 20 seconds after re-entering the dressing room, i hear "excuse me, men are not allowed in the womens's dressing room", i exited the dressing room and so did my wife, i said to the women "she cant get the dress zipped up without my help", in response the women said "well im calling security" i said "go right ahead" and me and my wife re-entered the dressing room. My wife finished trying on her dresses and we continued looking around the store whe a woman appering to be the manager came up to me and said "Men are not allowed in the womun's dressing room", i told her "she cant get the dress zipped up without my help, what do you propose i do?" AND BELIVE IT OR NOT SHE SAID " YOU AND YOUR WIFE NEED TO GO THE THE "MENS" DRESSING ROOM AND YOU CAN HELP HER THERE BECAUSE WOMEN FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE YOUR IN HERE"

I said "EXCUSE ME? BUT THAT MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL!!!, MY WIFE WOULD FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE GETTING DRESSED IN A MEN'S DRESSING ROOM", now I'm 6 feet 2 inches and to see into another woman's dressing room i would have to climb the dressing room wall, but i am not a pervert and not looking to get my jolly's of to any woman, I'm just helping my wife try on clothes. What the Manager told be makes no sense at all and she is stupid in my opinion, why can a man not help his wife or girlfriend get dressed?, and if it is a store policy, WHICH IT IS NOT, it should be posted.
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A  22nd of Apr, 2009 by    +1 Votes
omg thats bs i would have told them off i be damned if i dont help my wife out they ever do that here and they will get a ear full
N  10th of Jul, 2009 by    +1 Votes
It happened to me tonight, with my wife and I.. She was simply trying on dresses, not that I needed to help her but I was confronted by Loss prevention 1 minute after being in there... Theres NO signs saying womens only... They said USE COMMON SENSE... I said I did. In Old navy, Sears, American Eagle, they have unisex dressing rooms. AND YOURS SAYS NOTHING OF... No men allowed in dressing room.

The picture below is the bellend Loss prevention guy who wouldn't identify himself.
D  18th of Jul, 2009 by    -7 Votes
HELLLLOOOOOOO...wake up mental ###s, It's a WOMEN'S dressing room ! If I was naked behind a curtain and my husband was there an saw you walk out of the next room, you'd get punched in the face.
You don't belong there. period. Idiots. If your wife would feel so uncomfortable in the men's dressing room, what makes you think other women feel comfortable with YOU in OURS ?
It IS policy, all over California and everywhere else, just as it is policy to keep you mongrels out of women's bathrooms.
Your wife sounds like a ### for one, she can't zip her own dress ? Then why is she buying it ? And she's not too bright to ask her pervert husband to come snoop around where other women are half naked.
When they post WOMEN'S changing room, that should be a clue...and yes...that IS posting it. Stay the hell out...go get a Playboy and use that instead of slithering around women's changing rooms. Next you'll be crying that you wre in a women's bathroom looking under stalls cuz your stupid wife couldn't get her tampon out !
N  26th of Jul, 2009 by    -5 Votes
One question and one statement?! How would your wife feel if there was a man in the fitting room and she was trying on clothes? Sometimes you have to look at thing from others point of view. It called be considerate of others and not just yourself.
N  26th of Jul, 2009 by    +4 Votes
Okay, first of all. To "MZMICHIGAN" your comment: If another man was in the dressing room helping his wife or girlfriend dress I would NOT have a problem with it as long as he is not there to snoop around and not trying to get a peek at my wife. To "Common Decency" your comment about buying a Playboy Porn Magazine is 100% STUPID (I never said I was there to try and look at women nude) if I wanted to see a women naked I would look at my wife. PEOPLE are not understanding anything about what I was trying to say and anyone who says anything like what the comments are so far are just as WRONG. It is NEVER a store Policy that a man cannot be in a womens dressing room to assist his wife or girlfriend. Also to "Common Decency" you calling me a Pervert is very STUPID also, and saying my wife is not to bright is also STUPID, my wife is very bright, and a lot smarter than you are. I dont care if there are UNISEX dressing rooms, most stores don't have them anyway, thats why the manager at JCPENNY didn't know what to tell me. That's why there are walls in regular dressing rooms. Also to "Common Decency" saying your husband would punch me in the face is STUPID, if he did, he would be arrested and charged with assault and would face Jail time, so again, YOUR STUPID. (NOT ALL MEN ARE PERVERTS, I AM NOT A PERVERT FOR BEING IN THE DRESSING ROOM WITH MY WIFE TO HELP HER WITH HER DRESS, I WAS NOT LOOKING OVER THE WALLS TRYING TO CHECK OUT WOMEN, I DID NOTHING WRONG AND SINCE THIS ORIGINALLY HAPPENED I HAVE HELPED MY WIFE IN ABOUT 50 WOMENS DRESSING ROOMS AND WILL CONTINUE TO FOREVER, and if anyone has a problem with that then TUFF LIFE and suck it up :) :)
N  7th of Sep, 2009 by    -5 Votes
Completely agree...get the ### OUT of the dressing room ###! There is a reason there is a DRESSING ROOM! If women wanted to show you their ### naked, they wouldn't bother to go into the dressing room. ###! You should have been arrested.
N  7th of Sep, 2009 by    -4 Votes
Oh, and Mr. Cullen..as to you going into 50 more dressing rooms..you can be sure I will phone the police if you are EVER in my dressing room..screw security...

and if my hubby is with me he is gonna knock your punk ### OUT!
N  7th of Sep, 2009 by     Best Advice +4 Votes
N  1st of Dec, 2009 by    +2 Votes
For those of you complaining about men in women's dressing rooms, are you changing out in the OPEN or what? If you are uncomfortable being seen, don't open the door naked. I am a woman and I don't want to see it!!

I had a similiar experience as Mr. Cullen. My 16 year old sister and I were shopping for a dress for her homecoming at Dilliards, in which she was a queen candidate. Once she picked out the dress she wanted, she was going to call our dad who was shopping at another store to come look at it. He just got a new job and was not going to be able to attend her event, so she wanted him to at least be a part of getting a dress for it. She put the dress on and called him and he came to the store. I escorted him to the dressing room hallway to where she was so she could show him the dress. She was very shy about being seen in it at the time (you know insecure teenager stuff) and didn't think she would look good in it until she tanned and got a girdle.

Anyway, as soon as my dad walks back there, a store clerk starts freaking out yelling "Sir! Sir, get out of there! You can't be in there!" My dad freezes, his face gets red and he walks out of the hallway. Then, another clerk proceeds to tell him "You can't go back there!" in a very rude manner as he is walking by. He is so embarrassed and upset that he leaves the area. I go back to check on my sister and tell her he can't come see her dress. She is on the verge of tears (because my father can't be a part of her special event and she has no mother to help her pick out her dress--she passed away when my sister was only 6).

I explain all this to the clerk who just walks off. I tell my sister he is probably not going to get the dress because of how the clerks treated him. The clerk overhears this and after my sister is dressed comes rushing over saying "oh, let's see what we can do to help out." Then, and only then, do they try to accomadate us. Anyway, my sister got the dress, but only after a very emotional experience.

I understand the reasoning behind their policy (which was NOT posted), but the world isn't black and white and they should have handled the situation with some common sense and respect. How would these women feel if their daughter was treated this way, and they were not around to be there for her? My problem is that they go out of their way to tell at a man who is trying to be a supportive father, because some women are uncomfortable with men being in a dressing room. Why do they choose to accomadate one group, yet completely ignore girls like my sister who have no mother to help them? What if my sister was only 6 years old? Were do they draw the line?! What if a female was in the male's dressing room, would they make a huge scene out of that scenario?

Props to Mr. Cullen for pointing out male discrimination.
A  4th of Dec, 2009 by    +1 Votes
Mr. Cullen, I totally agree with you. I don't see anything wrong in you helping your own wife get the zipper up. The main reason is, as long as you keep your eyes on your wife & not other women, then that's fine. As for me, I've not done so with my girlfriend as I'm too afraid & embarrassed about staffs in the stores coming to me telling me the same thing like in "whatsupworld"'s reply.
A  6th of Dec, 2009 by    +1 Votes
Thank you "whatsupworld" and "F0xh0undX" finally, two people who understand what I am saying. I don't know why others can't understand where I am coming from like you can, I am not a pervert or a stalker or rapist, I am a man who was helping his wife, it is that simple. But people always assume the worst in people I guess. At least some people have brains like you two, again thank you.
N  6th of Dec, 2009 by    0 Votes
you are not alloud in the room to change only to help her so you did not break the rules because you was only helping now make a comment on my letter mr collen.
N  6th of Dec, 2009 by    +1 Votes
N  6th of Dec, 2009 by    -2 Votes
So that is your excuse for going in the women's room you pervert. How are they to know you are not a pervert. Site pedophile Trevor could claim he is not a pervert as well. We don't know what your real intentions are.
N  6th of Dec, 2009 by    -1 Votes
Zachary, you stay out of this, you need to show adults respect. You also should not be so trusting. This is exactely why Trevor is sexually abusing you on MSN.
N  6th of Dec, 2009 by    -1 Votes
Ian I have read your letter and you are stupid. You have not heard of sentences, periods, capital letters and proper paragraphs. Did you mother drop you on your head?
N  7th of Dec, 2009 by    +1 Votes
You know what, NonnieMouse, to be respected you have to earn respect, and you are rude to everyone on this site whether they are nine or whether they are eighty. You are rude to everyone that disagrees with you, make slanderous posts, lie, ect.

As for the gentleman, I myself don't see a problem with you in the woman's changeroom, and for those women that commented if their husband's, boyfriend's saw him in the womens changeroom they would give him a straight punch to the face, well that is barbaric. If i saw a man helping his wife while my girlfriend was changing I would not punch him in the face, if the man was peeping at her, I would like to punch him in the face however we would have them call security and let them deal with it. What if the person your boyfriend punched pulled out a knife or a gun.
N  7th of Dec, 2009 by    +1 Votes
Also, if you feel intimidated because a man is helping his wife/girlfriend with a zipper than you must have low self esteem. Some dresses (not talking from experience) are hard to zip up because the zipper is at the back and it is hard to reach back there. Ever had to scratch your back in a place where you cannot reach? Sort of the same thing.
N  5th of Feb, 2010 by    -2 Votes
big deal, grow up and let your wife get dressed by her self
D  22nd of Aug, 2010 by    -2 Votes
Look, bottom line is it's a changing room by womens clothing, use common sense. Just beccause you are related to that particular woman doesnt mean you have the right to intrude on other female paying customers who wish to try on and purchase clothing in privacy. You are overstepping your boundaries and need to wake up before the police get called next time and you as well as JC Penny make the news in not a very flattering way. Show some consideration and decency for other women, not just your personal needs. Tell your dependent wife to either purchase it and have you zip it up and down all you want in the privacy of your own home and return the thing if it doesnt fit. What is this world coming to that we cant even try on clothing without some guy trying to enter a "no enter" zone.

I just experienced this myself and am tired of this intrusive behavior! Next time I am calling the police!

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