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Aspen Dental dentist on commisson based salaries

Steer Clear of these crooks and see these places are a scam targeting kids (crowns on baby teeth)and the elderly (credit cards high interest rates for dentures)

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Patients, Pressure and Profits at Aspen Dental
June 26, 2012, 5:59 am ET by David Heath Center for Public Integrity, and Jill Rosenbaum, FRONTLINE
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Surviving on a meager $1, 300 a month, 87-year-old Theresa Ferritto fretted about the cost when her dentist told her she needed two teeth pulled.

She figured an oral surgeon would be too expensive. So she decided to try out a dental chain that promoted steep discounts in its advertisements. She went to an Aspen Dental office just outside Cleveland.

Ferritto said Aspen Dental wouldn’t just pull the teeth but insisted on a complete exam. She was bewildered when they finally handed her a treatment plan four pages long. Total price: $7, 835.

Ferritto could not afford it, but Aspen Dental signed her up for a special credit card, with monthly payments of $186 for five years. She blames herself for signing the papers.

“I made a big mistake going there, ” she says. “I should have known better.”

After a day of cleanings and two fillings, Ferritto asked her son for help. He called Aspen Dental to complain but said he got nowhere. So they turned to the state attorney general.

Aspen Dental took all charges off her credit card for treatments she hadn’t yet received. But the company said the $2, 540 she was charged for two fillings and cleanings was appropriate.

Aspen Dental charged Ferritto $350 for an antibiotic put next to teeth the dentist was going to pull, a charge other dentists say makes no sense. There were four separate charges for an antibacterial rinse, similar to Listerine, for $129. There was even a $149 charge for an electric toothbrush that Ferritto didn’t even know she had, until she recently retrieved an Aspen Dental bag from her garage and found it inside.

Imagine how many groceries that would buy, she sighed.

When asked if Ferritto was taken advantage of, Aspen Dental chief executive Robert Fontana said, “I hope that the team was clear about what she needed and that that she completely understood what she was getting into. And hopefully, you know, she made the choices that she thought was right for her.”

Aspen Dental is a chain of nearly 350 offices in 22 states managed by a company owned by a private-equity firm. It is part of a fast-growing industry of corporate dental practices, many of which specialize in serving people who cannot afford to go to the dentist, a group many dentists ignore.

By marketing to people who haven’t seen a dentist in years, Aspen Dental often gives new patients treatment plans costing thousands of dollars. The Center for Public Integrity (CPI) and FRONTLINE spent months examining Aspen Dental and found that the same business model that makes Aspen Dental accessible to people short on cash can also lock people into debt and has led to complaints of patients being overcharged or given unnecessary treatments.

Former employees say Aspen Dental trained them in high-pressure sales. Corporate management scrutinizes the production of dentists and staff daily. And internal documents show that dentists get paid bonuses as key production targets are met.

“You’ve got people who are not dentists, that are in management… they are breathing down the doctor’s back, ” said Jenny Hayes, who worked as an office manager for Aspen Dental in the Chicago-area last year. “There are goals and if you are not hitting your goals, then you lose your job.”

Aspen Dental denies that its dentists have stronger financial incentives than other dentists or that its bonuses affect treatments. Fontana, founder and chief executive officer of Aspen Dental, based in East Syracuse, NY, said dentists won’t do unnecessary treatments because “it’s just not in their DNA.”

“I’m not even sure what corporate dentistry means, because we have no influence on the dentistry, ” Fontana said.

He said Aspen Dental frees dentists to focus solely on patients, because the company handles back-office duties such as marketing, accounting and billing. In fact, dentists own and control all of the practices, says Fontana. All but four states forbid anyone who’s not a dentist from owning a practice on the assumption that dentists are trained and motivated to put patients ahead of profits.

But Sen. Charles Grassley, a Republican from Iowa, questions whether dentists at corporate dental chains are free from corporate pressures to maximize profits. Grassley, the ranking member of the Senate Finance Committee, wouldn’t speak about Aspen Dental specifically, but he’s had committee investigators looking into the company and other private-equity-owned chains for months.

“Because when private equity firms get involved, ” Grassley explained, “you got to understand that their motivation is to make money. And they are not dentists. And dentists ought to make the determination … of what is good for the teeth… Not some private equity manager in Wall Street.”

Aspen Dental says it serves people who otherwise wouldn’t go to a dentist. Forty percent of Americans have a family member who put off going to the dentist because they couldn’t pay for it, according to a survey by the W.K. Kellogg Foundation. Fontana says Aspen Dental looks for ways to make it easier for those people to walk into their offices.

Their offices are easy to spot at shopping centers, often near fast-food restaurants. Posters advertise a free exam and X-rays. Many of their new patients walk in the door without an appointment. Aspen Dental accepts most insurance and if the patient is still short on cash, they will sign you up on your first day for “no-interest” credit cards through GE Capital or Chase.

Aspen Dental specializes in dentures, which they make in each office. The consultation room has a tray of dentures to choose from, ranging from the basic no-frills model to the “precision hand-crafted” ComfiLytes, coming in 27 shades. Internet ads offer dentures on sale for $249. Its commercial tells stories of a man in pain from poor-fitting dentures and a woman too embarrassed to smile.

Aspen Dental insists that all new patients get a comprehensive examination. So even if someone just wants a routine cleaning or needs a broken tooth fix, Aspen Dental presents a treatment plan for any problems that may crop up years later. Fontana says this approach is what’s best for patients, because neglected teeth and gums can lead to serious problems. Several former employees, however, describe the initial exam as a sales tactic to maximize revenue on each new patient.

“People would come into the office maybe with a toothache and come out with a treatment plan that maybe the dentist said we need to extract all your teeth, ” said Jenny Hayes, the former office manager in Illinois. “They were made to stop in the manager’s office and sit down for an intense consultative selling process that they really didn’t bargain for when they walked in the door. I had people literally breaking down and crying in my office. And it happened quite regularly.”

The average treatment plan presented to new patients runs $4, 450 at Aspen Dental’s top producing offices, according to an internal company document obtained by CPI and FRONTLINE. The company says the extensive treatment is a reflection of the patients they draw.

“A typical patient is probably 45 to 65 and struggling just to make ends meet, ” said Fontana, Aspen’s CEO. “They’re taking this week’s paycheck to pay last month’s mortgage, making their car payment, trying to put their kids through school and unfortunately, dentistry can become discretionary.”

Donna Kelce of Des Moines, Iowa, fits the profile. At age 55, she hadn’t been to a dentist in 15 years. She didn’t have dental insurance and didn’t think she could afford it. Besides, her teeth never bothered her until a gap starting forming between two front teeth. Embarrassed, she finally went to an Aspen Dental office after seeing one of its commercials.

Kelce was X-rayed and sent to a consultation room, where a dental assistant handed her a treatment plan. Kelce’s gaze stopped on a particular word.

“I could feel the kind of blood run from my face, thinking, “Oh my God. Dentures, ” Kelce said.

Kelce recalls the dentist saying she had no real option but to get dentures because she had lost too much bone for implants. She wasn’t sure how she could afford Aspen Dental’s $3, 700 bill. But then the office manager signed her up for a “no-interest” credit card through Chase. Relieved, Kelce thought she was getting a bargain.

She came back in late November 2009 to have 13 teeth pulled. But she said the dentist pulled and pulled and couldn’t get all the teeth out, breaking one at the root. Kelce wondered if so much bone was gone, why the teeth weren’t coming out easily. After three hours, the dentist still had six teeth to pull but said she could do no more because she had already given Kelce the maximum dose of Novocain.

Aspen Dental sent Kelce to one of its former dentists who could see her that evening. Dr. Jessica Lawson looked at Kelce’s teeth and concluded that they didn’t all need to be pulled. But she finished the work so Kelce could wear her dentures. She suggested that Kelce report the incident to the Iowa Dental Board. Lawson herself wrote a letter to the board.

“Having worked at Aspen Dental myself for a short period of time, I am well aware of the type of care that can potentiate, especially if the doctor isn’t firm with the office manager and regional managers in providing the standard of care that he/she is use to, instead of producing the numbers that Aspen requests and expects, ” Lawson wrote.

The dentist at Aspen Dental, did not return phone calls for comment. But she gave a different account of Kelce’s treatment in her notes. She said she suggested alternatives but that Kelce “insisted on dentures and full upper extractions even though (six upper teeth) can be saved.” She added that four of those teeth might not last forever.

Kelce, who is now suing for malpractice, said the dentist never told her any of her teeth could be saved.

“Who in their right mind would let them pull my teeth if they didn’t need to?” she asked.

Dr. Gerald Marlin, a Washington DC prosthodontist who specializes in replacing teeth, looked at Kelce’s X-rays at the request of CPI and FRONTLINE. He drew a red line along the bone and said Kelce had plenty of bone to save seven of her upper teeth.

Marlin came up with seven treatment options for Kelce, in most cases replacing her teeth with a bridge or partial denture. He said dentures should only be a last resort. They don’t adhere well and affect a person’s ability to speak and eat. Partial dentures are not only cheaper but they fit securely, anchored by the remaining teeth.

The dental board dropped the case and won’t discuss it, citing confidentiality laws. Coincidentally, that same month the dental board issued a press release, saying, “The Board has seen an increase in complaints in connection with corporate dental practices. The types of complaints include both continuity of care issues and issues related to the business aspects of the practice.”

Corporate dental chains are barely regulated in most states, especially if they don’t accept Medicaid patients. State dental boards typically don’t have any power over corporations.

Lili Reitz, executive director of the Ohio State Dental Board, said last year a quarter of her complaints – or 140 – were against dentists at corporate chains. Yet she has little authority to take action against the companies. Instead, her power comes from having control over the license of individual dentists.

It’s common for Reitz to get complaints that private dentists are trying to do unnecessary care, such as putting fillings on cavities that other dentists don’t see. Still, Reitz says the pressures on dentists at corporate dental practices seem more intense.

“I think quotas and how many patients need to be seen a day definitely have an adverse effect on the quality of care, ” Reitz said. “What’s frustrating for us is to go dentist by dentist by dentist. By the time we get there, they’re not there anymore” because corporate chains have high turnover rates.

Reitz says dentists tend to stop doing needless treatments after leaving a corporate dental chain, so she considers the problem solved and takes no formal action.

State attorneys general can take action under consumer laws if a dental chain deceives patients. The Pennsylvania Attorney General sued Aspen Dental in 2010, alleging that Aspen Dental advertises “free” exams but still charges patients with insurance. The state also alleged that Aspen Dental failed to reveal that the “no-interest” credit cards it pushes have steep penalties – 29.9 percent interest on the entire amount of the original loan — if a patient misses payments. Aspen Dental settled, paying $175, 000 in restitution without admitting wrongdoing.

Dental malpractice cases are relatively rare, attorneys say, because they are expensive to pursue and usually don’t offer big payouts.

Consumer sites on the Internet are full of complaints about Aspen Dental. Fontana acknowledges that the company counted 1, 000 complaints posted from 2006 to 2010. But he said Aspen Dental treats 12, 000 patients a day, so the number of complaints is relatively small. Aspen Dental has an employee who now responds to the complaints.

Two former dentists at Aspen Dental said Donna Kelce’s story is not surprising. Neither would allow their names to be used because they’d signed confidentiality agreements and feared being sued. But one admitted that he himself pulled teeth that he didn’t think needed to be pulled. It would happen when another Aspen dentist had written the treatment plan and said the patient had insisted on dentures.

He recently left Aspen Dental, saying, “I couldn’t do it anymore…They spend most of their time trying to talk people out of their teeth.”

Fontana dismissed complaints by former employees, saying all companies have disgruntled workers.

Aspen Dental is a pioneer among corporate dental chains. Fontana considered becoming a dentist when he graduated business school in 1991, but decided instead to apply his business knowledge from working in a group dental practice, imagining ways of tapping into the market of people who never go to a dentist.

In 1998, he founded Aspen Dental Management. After five years, the company had opened 50 offices and drawn the interest of private-equity firms. Capital Resources Partners of Boston invested $18.7 million in Aspen Dental in 2004. The Los Angeles firm Leonard Green & Associates bought the company in 2010 for just under $550 million.

Fontana says private-equity firms want out of a business after about five years, and the key to a big payoff is growth. Aspen Dental opens a new office nearly every week, creating a drag on profits, according to a recent report by Moody’s. Last year, the company made more than $500 million in revenue but had a pretax profit of only $12 million.

The company meticulously tracks revenue targets for each office. Yet Fontana said those targets don’t apply to dentists.

“I think it’s important to keep in mind again, that the dentists don’t have these goals, ” he said. “They just don’t have them. They don’t exist.”

But even an Aspen Dental video on the company’s Web site recruits dentists by saying, “Compensation for associate dentists includes an annual salary plus bonus opportunity that increases as key targets are met.”

The video even gives a glimpse of the revenue targets for an office in Springfield, Mass. A multicolored spreadsheet titled “My Practice Metrics” shows that “dentistry” billings for November 2009 were 243 percent above “budget.” The image shows there are also revenue targets for cleanings and dentures.

The scrutiny dentists are under at Aspen Dental is clear in a report that Fontana called the “game tape.” It’s a monthly performance measure sent to office managers. CPI and FRONTLINE obtained one of these confidential reports for an office in Owensboro, Ky. It shows that in February, the office had billed $270, 000 so far this year, $35, 000 above its target.

The document shows that Aspen Dental also scrutinizes the billings of its dentists. The lead dentist in Owensboro was billing an average of $5, 206 a day, earning him praise from the regional director, who wrote “Showing great trends for this month.” But the tape also compared the dentist to top producing dentists, and in that regard, he fell nearly $1, 000 short each day.

Heather Haynes, who managed an Aspen Dental office in Joliet, Ill., said that office managers who didn’t hit their targets consistently were likely to be fired. She said that’s in fact what happened to her. Haynes said dentists and hygienists, the office’s revenue makers, faced the same pressures.

Aspen Dental invited CPI and FRONTLINE to a new office in Warsaw, Ind., to show how badly needed its services are. Warsaw, a town of about 13, 500, has only six private dentists. Aspen Dental opened an office there after a dentist noticed how many people from Warsaw were driving an hour to Fort Wayne for dental appointments.

Ted Collins, a 47-year-old truck driver, walked into the office that day with an excruciating toothache.“I have to use ice packs at times to keep it frozen so I can get some sleep, ” Collins said.

He hadn’t been to a dentist in 10 years and came in because of the free X-rays. Two of his teeth were abscessed, an infection can spread and in rare cases even become fatal. The office gave him a comprehensive exam and found he needed dentures.

Dr. Kurt Losier, the owner of the practice, wiggled several of Collins teeth and showed on the X-ray that his bone had receded dramatically. Losier suggested Collins get the dentures with the longest warranty, which are also the most expensive dentures. Collins couldn’t afford the treatment plan, which came to $7, 000. So the office manager tried to sign him up for a credit card. He was rejected.

Patients at Aspen Dental are turned away every day because they cannot afford the treatment, Losier said. To avoid that, the office will trim the treatment plan down. But even that often doesn’t work.

Losier vowed no matter what, he would take care of Collins’ abscessed teeth. Ultimately Collins said a friend gave him the money for the dentures.

Haynes, the former office manager, said she lost sleep at night worried about whether the sales tactics Aspen Dental taught her were ethical. She said she trusted the dentists she worked with. But she was so skeptical of the expensive deep-cleanings sold to so many patients that she herself refused to get one after she was examined in her own office.

Lance [censored], who managed an office in in Tennessee, said he felt like he was being forced to take advantage of people by selling them treatments he suspected they didn’t really need. He finally quit one day when he says he had to sell a $12, 000 treatment plan to an elderly couple who seemed confused.

[censored] said the man looked him in the eye and asked if he had to decide right then. [censored] said no. Go home and think about it. This broke the rules taught in training for closing the deal, which he says, include getting the patient to commit before they walk out.

In December 2008, Sarah Keckler went to an Aspen Dental in Mechanicsburg, Penn., just to get her teeth cleaned. After a long wait, the dentist said the 20-year-old had three cavities and also needed to have her wisdom teeth pulled. She also said Keckler might have oral cancer.

Keckler, who now lives near Washington D.C., recalls the woman talking so loudly that it seemed the whole office could hear. “She was giving this massive disaster scenario. I didn’t believe a thing that she said.”

Keckler went to her dentist regularly, the last time just six months earlier. But a change in her insurance forced her to switch dentists. As she was wondering how she was going to get out of this, the office manager handed her an estimated bill for a little more than $600. Keckler said the manager encouraged her to sign and even to enroll for a special credit card to pay for it all up front.

Angered by what she considered a hard sell, Keckler got up and left and went back to her family dentist. He found no cavities, no need to pull her wisdom teeth and no oral cancer.

Aspen Dental reviewed Keckler’s files and says she was appropriately diagnosed and that other dentists would agree. However, in an interview, Aspen Dental’s Arwinder Judge, the vice president of clinical support, acknowledged that the surface cavities don’t show up in Keckler’s X-rays. The company is relying on the dentist’s notes to support its diagnosis.

Last February, Dr. David Schneider, a dentist in Chevy Chase, Md., examined Keckler and her X-rays at the request of CPI and FRONTLINE. He said there were no cavities, no need to pull her wisdom teeth and no signs of oral cancer. :( :( :(

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Aspen Dental aspen dental is the worst dental provider i've ever had the dishonor of visiting

Aspen Dental is THE worst dental provider I’ve ever had the dishonor of visiting. Their fast food philosophy of passing you from one rude technician to another is offensive and their “high pressure” sales technique is belittling. The dentist was arrogant, didn’t listen to what i had to say and very unprofessional. After making me wait for an hour listening to the receptionists discuss American Idol they finally called me into be seen. No one knew my name and the technicians rushed me through as if i were bothering them.

After a brief peek in my mouth that was interrupted twice by other nurses, i waited, for another 10 mins in a dentist chair. Next came the most insulting part of all. I was ushered into the “consultation” room where a high pressure saleswoman proceeded to “determine how much I owe” by adding optional dental care without advising me it was optional. She tried to sell me everything from fluoride treatments to mouthpiece to toothbrushes. It was much worse than a used car salesman being pushy and handing you a pen to sign on dotted line 10 seconds after looking at a car. After I soundly informed her i didn’t want anything other than my teeth fixed she turned surly and became short with me.

I have NEVER had an experience with ANY customer service oriented company in my life as revolting as my visit to Aspen Dental. Aspen Dental signifies the decline of capitalism. Customer care is second nature, run as many cattle through slaughter house as possible as quickly as possible. ALL technicians including the dentist were 35 or younger. Aspen Dental is the A typical wolf in sheeps clothing. I wouldn’t recommend anyone using their services unless you enjoy being abused and like to feel as if you’re a credit card number instead of a person.

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Dec 26, 2012 11:23 am EST

worst worst worst experience ever. both upper and lower partials did not fit, could not eat an they hurt.they were rude an kept saying you have to get used to them. well i went one month, went back an they kept saying what do you want us to do, i said make them rite i spent a lot of money an i cant use these teeth.they came back an took the teeth an said they will give me a partial refund, go somewhere else. sioux city, iowa

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Dec 12, 2012 9:18 pm EST

I AGREE I HAD MY FIRST VISIT AND MY LAST ONE! MY GOD ! DENTIST LOOKED LIKE HIS PLACE SHOULD BE AT A CHINESE RESTAURANT ! UNFRIENDLY RUDE AND UNPROFESSIONAL, HIS ASSISTANTS!? ARE WORSE! THEY WERE VERY RUDE WHILE EXAMINING MY PRECIOUSNESS MOUTH, AND NOT EVEN ''SORRY''! WHAT A SERVICE! ALL THESE COMPLAINTS? WELL THEY ARE 100% TRUE!

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My son was treated poorly by the manager that was trying to help us with the cost for his dental work. She had no personality at all, and her dress code was not accetable for her position (her breast was at least half exposed in the top she was wearing. I was so disappointed in our experience at Aspen. Their prices were higher than any place I have looked since I am back home on my computer.

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Aspen Dental misrepresentation of product, attempt to charge for surgical procedure not performed

I was told by two different office managers (One was a trainee.) what dentures I was paying for. When I lost my bottom plate because I couldn't leave it in to eat, I found out I did not receive the denture I had been told I was paying for. They also tried to charge me for a frenectomy that they did not do. Fortunately I recognized this procedure on the itemized statement and questioned it.
They hemmed and hawed and postponed removing the charge until after they had submitted it to the insurance company. (The insurance co. didn't pay for it anyway.) By way of explanation they told me that all bills are populated by the computer to include all possible charges. It is then the responsibility of each Doctor to remove those charges that did not apply to me. I was fortunate enough to catch this costly fraud, but I am concerned that that lengthy itemized bill may have contained more computer populated charges that I didn't recognize as fraudulent. I finally called the customer relations people and told her that I was concerned that I had been lied to by two different people both on a managerial level. She instructed one of them to apologize to me. ( I had seen this person on two occasions already but she had been "much too busy" to apologize then.

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Aspen Dental dental services

I started with Aspen Dental for dental care for my 2 children, my husband and myself, over two years ago, because I had a discount card for dental care. I just have signed up for dental insurance from my work place and informed Aspen of my new insurance. My family has always gone to the dentist for dental care twice a year, but Apen always wanted to do more x rays than needed. After the new insurance started for our next appointment in April of 2012, I WAS INFORMED THAT THEY HAD JUST TAKEN X RAYS OF MY CHILDREN'S TEETH WITHOUT MY PERMISSION, while I was in the chair having my teeth cleaned. This was one of the information that made me not too happy about Aspen that day, but informing me one child had 8 cavities and the other child's baby tooth needed to be pulled and 3 fillings. The question first was x rays were taken by Apen less than a year before with no problems with their teeth. I guess insurance make more cavities or more money with fake cavities. PLEASE DO NOT GO TO ASPEN FOR DENTAL CARE WITHOUT WATCHING FRONTLINE'S-DOLLARS AND DENTISTS

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Aspen Dental Management Services SUCK / Horrible / Unprofessional / Don't know what they are doing

I just came from my visit at the Aspen Dental in Chelmsford, MA. Overall, the services from the dental assistant (who took my free x-ray), and the dentist doctor (who exam my x-ray and teeth) were good.

Unfortunately, the consultant who estimates the cost of my treatment at the FRONT DESK was horrible and unprofessional (I don’t think this tall blond know how to add number and do a percentage). For starter she did not introduce herself or shake hands. She handed me the total cost of approximately $3800 after my 1500 insurance coverage and did not explain how she arrived at that number. When I asked she hesitated to go over them, and finally told me that 8 fillings, 1 crown, and an initial cleaning. I told her that I would like to postpone my crown (my dead yellow tooth after root canal), and would like to discuss my 8 fillings and cleaning ($600). She then handed me a total of 1800 (8 fillings and the cleaning) after my 1500 insurance coverage, without going over how much each filling costs me. I asked her how much each filling cost, and she told me 205 before insurance. I told her I thought each filling would cost me a different price, and she told me that about $15 difference. I did the math in my head and the number did not add up, she was ###ing her way through the whole conversation or maybe ###ting through getting hired too. Let do the math:

220 each filling maximum I would pay (205 each and difference 15)
220 x 8 = 1760 plus my $600 cleaning bring the total to 2360. My insurance will pay 80% up to 1500. The 80% of 2360 is 1888, so [protected] = 338 + 472 = 810. The 472 is the difference between 2360 and 1888. Therefore, the price should be 810 and not 1800. The lady is so incompetent, and that should reflect her performance review.

Practically this god damn service person did not give a f about the patient.
Going in I told her I would like to maximize my dental insurance and push some of the fillings to the following years. What is the point of doing everything this year and cost me $3800, and not doing anything the following years and have my $1500 sitting around.
She was not willing to work with her patient, and her attitude was here is your 3800 total do it or leave it. If I was her lead I would discipline her big time.

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Oct 07, 2011 9:01 pm EDT

Dr.'s license is on probation with Dental Board, whole system is set up to get people to pay up front. Refunds don't happen unless you constantly monitor balances after insurance pays. They're more interested in packing people in than quality dentistry.

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There is a class action lawsuit being filed. If you are interested in joining it, please contact me at researchpartners@verizon.net.
I am a paralegal and private investigator gathering plaintiffs for the case.

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Oct 26, 2011 5:08 pm EDT

Great point SJ40. I agree the company will drop a dentist at the first sign of a problem that they can't hide.

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Oct 21, 2011 10:00 pm EDT

Well, doctor's license might be on probation because he/she was following the policies of the company and got in trouble with the board because of that. The company doesn't care about the Doctors, they just care about the profits those Doctors make. I bet that if Doctors get in trouble with the board, they have to save their licenses themselves.

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Mar 07, 2011 1:50 pm EST

Once again, Aspen trying to get money for nothing. You most likely didn't need most of the work done.

All she had to do was print out the estimate and it will show you everything itemized. You are not the first patient to ask for this and you won't be the last.

Of course, at Aspen you know if you print this out and you have given a patient a coupon you have to be careful because the coupons do not add up correctly.

Do yourself a favor and stay away from Aspen.

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I'm sorry to hear about your recent visit. Our goal is for every patient to have a positive experience, so I’m really disappointed to hear that your experience didn’t meet those standards.

Would you be willing to talk in greater detail to our Patient Satisfaction group to see whether they can help? This team of specialists is based at our Practice Support Center in Syracuse and is trained to help resolve these types of issues. They can be reached at [protected] or patientservices@aspendent.com.

Again, I am sorry to hear about your visit.
Allie

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I was seen at Aspen dental and was told by Dr. Yumang that I would need an apico ectomy done. I was then sent to the office manager Andrew Robinson who tells me that I don't qualify for the payment plan so I'd have to come up with $1, 321 up front. I then got a new insurance called United Healthcare which, Dr. Pethan Tin, the oral surgeon, at Aspen Dental...

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Aspen Dental incompetence

A while back I went to Aspen dental to have 3 or 4 teeth pulled, and have partial plates made. I was told at the outside it would take 6 months. The teeth were pulled and thats where all the problems started. I told the dentist I could"nt take tylenol, he gave me oxycodone with 500mgs of tylenol, so no pain meds. The customer service is the worst, I was told several times I would be called back in a couple days, once was 10 days, once was 2 or 3 weeks, once was almost 4 months to the day. Of course these all came with excuses about computer problems and other stories. long story short after a year I come in for a fitting, guess what the plates dont fit because they did"nt finish the surgery a year ago. They told me they would make it right, but at this point they had proven this job was out of there league. I have never been offered a refund or adjustment so I paid 1, 600 or 1, 800 hundred dollars to have 3 or 4 teeth pulled, Beware Aspen dental. Dan Wenzel

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Aspen Dental cannot extract tooth must make another appt.

so i called aspen dental (which i am a patient at) told them i broke a tooth and wanted it extracted... They said ok and scheduled me... So i show up for my appt. they take an x-ray of the tooth.. Next thing the dentist comes in and says yup it needs to be pulled but we cannot do it today, you have to make another appt.. SERIOUSLY ANOTHER APPT. I think it is just there way of getting more money out of us... this is total BS

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Jun 09, 2012 9:37 am EDT

Also if you go to the the one in Eastgate (Cincinnati Ohio) you get the same treatment. Also the SO CALLED office MANAGER is a commision based SALES PERSON BEWARE people of this group of people!

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Buyer beware! I made a reservation for a cleaning and was quoted $57. I told them wait a minute under my plan the cost is $29. I asked for the four digit code to verify with my Carrington 500 carrier.She read me two sets of four digit numbers. I asked how come you're giving me two procedure numbers? She mumbled it's cleaning and mumble mumble. I asked...

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I needed new dentures so I found aspen dental in yellow pages. I met with them after making an apointment. The lady in the office showed several prices each with different features and warranties. I paid cash for a full set of dentures. They ask for my old teeth to make new inpressions. I don't no why. Iwent back two weeks later yo pick up my new teeth. The...

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The Aspen Dental in Vancouver, was very horrible. Here I came there in good faith, to have new denture's made, and they were very bad and I had a seriously alarming experience. They almost choked me to death with the impression mixture from the upper impressions and the 2 young females, attitude, body language, and tone of voice's were very nasty mean, a...

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Aspen Dental aspen dental and the botched tooth extraction

I needed a tooth extraction– went to Aspen dental and got an appointment for the following week after X-rays showed that a molar needed to be pulled. On the day of the extraction, which should have been my first clue, she asked which tooth needed pulling— then after a ‘cold’ test she concurred it was the one I was pointing towards. As she began her work, jacking my jaw all over the place, it was evident through her conversation with the first-time assistant that she was having aa great deal of difficulty.

She then stopped, told me we were going to ‘take a little break’ and said she needed to get a more experienced assistant. I remember hearing her tell the girl that this was a 3 root molar. When she continued, there was considerable discomfort with her movement within my mouth. But finally she was done, gave me script for Tylenol with codeine and sent me on my way. She did call me twice and I told her how much pain I was still in.

Finally, on Friday, I went back and she put something with cloves in my mouth, wouldn’t tell exactly what it was. It lasted maybe an hour. Long story short, the following week I went to an oral surgeon who then extracted, without pain, the remaining 2 roots she left in my mouth. Yes, we have called Aspen Dental, but at this point are only getting defensive remarks, with no consulation.

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Nov 17, 2012 5:21 am EST

Whenever you have to pay for a contest or an inheritance it is a scam. I get those all the time and send it to the trash.

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Aspen Dental screwed over by aspen dental scam visit

We told aspen dental that we were on a time constraint because we were going out of the country in 2 months. They said no problem. However, after 2 visits to do a ‘workup’. After a very long conference to set up ‘credit’, He (the expediter) freely told us that most people don’t pay on time so they basically get a kickback on the interest charge. Husband was scheduled for impressions but when he got there they told him they didn’t have time to finish the work: that he should contact a dentist in NY before we left the USA! They said he should still use the ‘credit card’ they had set up, for the dental work where he had the work done.

Seems like a ‘credit card’ scam to me. We wasted all that time that should have been used to do the dental work. I can’t believe I got screwed over by Aspen dental, even after reading all the bad reviews about them online!

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I am so shocked about the prices they charge at Aspen Dental, they claim they have low cost and promoting good oral care, But all I see is the fact that they see just dollar signs.

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I had similar experiences like the others, I went in because they advertised free exams and xrays, I needed a bridge and gum treatment and a extraction, they then told me after the exam that I need a scaling&root planning, vizilite which they said was a antibiotic to put under my gums for infection in the pockets, removal of post to a crown that aspen had done 2 years prior that unattached and could not be put back on, a flipper to place while waiting for my permanent bridge can be placed, another extraction with a possible implant, 1 core build p 2 fillings and a 4 unit bridge, I had no problem with this diagnosis since i knew i needed a scaling and root planning and bridge, but the cost was crazy! 13, 859.00 with my discount plan, im confused i had filling done at another dentist for less than 300.00. Im going to try to find another quality dentist with more reasonable prices.

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Aspen Dental failure to send out medical records

I used Aspen Dental in 2008 and have since found a new dentist in my local area. When I called them to get my x rays and records sent to my new dentist, I was told that I couldn't send a letter requesting the records, it had to come from the new dentist. So I drove to the office and filled out the form and wrote that I would drive down and pick them up because of the short time before my appointment. I drove and hour one way to pick up my x rays. I went to my appointment the next day, only to be told that the x rays were not mine. My dentist called and they promised they would send the x rays right out. Since all of this has happened I can't have the work done on my teeth because the x rays have not been sent and my insurance company will not authorize the treatment. I've since found another new dentist and I called Aspen Dental again to see if my records had been sent. They haven't sent them because there is no release from the dentist. Now in order to get my x rays for my new dentist I have to drive another hour to pick up my records. I feel that they give horrible service, they treat their customers unfaily and charge outrageous amounts for the work, or lack there of, that they do.

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Aspen Dental poor business practices

I went to the Topsham, Maine office for service. We agreed on and started a program. The plan was to pull all of my teeth except for five on the bottom and make a full upper and partial lower. When we started the program, the dentist told me how happy I was going to be and that these teeth were going to fit so well that I wouldn't even need to think about using adhesives. After the initial temporary dentures, I wasn't going to need adhesive at all. Shortly after I got the permanent ones I was told that I might have to use "a little bit of adhesive" occasionally. I was told shortly after that that "well, sometimes some people have to use a bit of adhesive on a daily basis. What I finally ended up with was a set of dentures that fit so badly that they are uncomfortable to wear even for a short time. If I don't use a full dose of adhesive, they tend to fall out (usually when I'm talking to someone so that the embarrassment is complete). I got tired of going back to try to get them fixed and as soon as I can afford it, I'm going to have to go to a real dentist. Oh Yeah! Besides all this, they handled the insurance so badly that I wound up paying $2000 more out of pocket than they told me I was Going to. I doubt that this will make it anywhere where the public can read it but if it does, please beware! I'll probably find some other review sites to post to also.

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well, aspen dental at kenniwick, wa started out ok, after the fact, upper and lowers hurt like hell, can not eat with them in and gag also, glue does not work, talk AND FALL OUT, also the bottom dentures partial walks around in my mouth while trying to eat.. am getting ahold of my insurance carrier, and see if we can resolve this, aspen dental is going to refund all my money AS PER THEIR NATIONAL TV COMMERICALS.. or they are faced with legal from me..am tired of phony claims from business, saying how great they are. malpractice is a good word here on aspen dental.ball is in their court, what are you going to do aspen, to make me a satisfied customer, oh got a bill also, i signed a peice of paper and it went in there computer system stating that what i paid upfront, and insurance there would be no more money...LIARS, LIARS, so ALSO DID NOT GET TEMPORARYPARTIALS AND WAS TOLD REFUND DUE..LIARS SO ASPEN WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO.

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I went into Aspen dental mistake number 1. I got or was supposed to get my wisdom teeth removed . I find out today from another dentist that the Aspen idiot left half my wisdom teeth in on both sides on top. After paying over 6, 000.00 they want more money to fix the problem . Are they stupid or what? I had an emergency dental issue after hours I was not...

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Aspen Dental worst experience of my life

I went to Aspen for a chipped tooth. They were first on the list of providers in the area, so I figured “Why not?” Little did I know that I was about to have the worst dental experience of my life. Everything started out o.k. I was scheduled for a free exam being a first time customer. I went in and got my x rays done. Next step was to see the dentist for a treatment plan. I went in for a chipped tooth mind you. The doctor recommends that because my tooth has chipped multiple times that I would need a crown put on my very front tooth(a $1000 procedure as opposed to $200 for filling a chip). I figured the doctor was just doing what was in my best interest, so I naturally agreed. I went back to the office manager who immediately went into payment and scheduling.

So I am here thinking, “great, this is going to get taken care of quickly”. Miraculously, an appointment opened up IMMEDIATELY so that this dentist could get the process started. The doctor ground my entire tooth down to a nub so that I now no longer have a front tooth; only a replacement. I am a fighter and take shots to the mouth from fists for a living. So now every time this crown gets chipped I will be $600 in the hole to replace it. Little did I know that I would be outfitted with a horrendous looking temporary crown for nearly a month. The temporary crown was just a mold of my old chipped tooth. This is part 1.

Part 2. I was scheduled for a cleaning a few days later. I was 10 minutes late due to an accident detour. I showed up and apologized. The receptionist told me that there is no way that they could take be because the employees were going to lunch. In what world can an employee not push lunch back 10 minutes? Lunch was at 12. I was there at 11:40. The receptionist told me that they need half an hour to do the cleaning. Now I am wondering what kind of teeth cleaning only takes 30 minutes.

Part 3. The temporary crown-chipped tooth crown (which looks awful to begin with because it is a totally different color from my teeth) revealing the metal inside the tooth. Mildly painful and looks even worse than before. I should have just stayed with the chipped tooth at this point. I called to attempt to get it fixed asap being around the holidays. They tell me it will be at least a week. I JUST SAID I WAS IN PAIN! A FREAKIN WEEK!?

Part 4. Rescheduled cleaning- 2 hours out of work. Chipped temporary tooth fix- 2 more hours off work. Permanent crown installation- 3 more hours off work.

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I went to Aspen for a chipped tooth. They were first on the list of providers in the area, so I figured “Why not?” Little did I know that I was about to have the worst dental experience of my life. Everything started out o.k. I was scheduled for a free exam being a first time customer. I went in and got my x rays done. Next step was to see the dentist for a treatment plan. I went in for a chipped tooth mind you. The doctor recommends that because my tooth has chipped multiple times that I would need a crown put on my very front tooth(a $1000 procedure as opposed to $200 for filling a chip). I figured the doctor was just doing what was in my best interest, so I naturally agreed. I went back to the office manager who immediately went into payment and scheduling.

So I am here thinking, “great, this is going to get taken care of quickly”. Miraculously, an appointment opened up IMMEDIATELY so that this dentist could get the process started. The doctor ground my entire tooth down to a nub so that I now no longer have a front tooth; only a replacement. I am a fighter and take shots to the mouth from fists for a living. So now every time this crown gets chipped I will be $600 in the hole to replace it. Little did I know that I would be outfitted with a horrendous looking temporary crown for nearly a month. The temporary crown was just a mold of my old chipped tooth. This is part 1.

Part 2. I was scheduled for a cleaning a few days later. I was 10 minutes late due to an accident detour. I showed up and apologized. The receptionist told me that there is no way that they could take be because the employees were going to lunch. In what world can an employee not push lunch back 10 minutes? Lunch was at 12. I was there at 11:40. The receptionist told me that they need half an hour to do the cleaning. Now I am wondering what kind of teeth cleaning only takes 30 minutes.

Part 3. The temporary crown-chipped tooth crown (which looks awful to begin with because it is a totally different color from my teeth) revealing the metal inside the tooth. Mildly painful and looks even worse than before. I should have just stayed with the chipped tooth at this point. I called to attempt to get it fixed asap being around the holidays. They tell me it will be at least a week. I JUST SAID I WAS IN PAIN! A FREAKIN WEEK!?

Part 4. Rescheduled cleaning- 2 hours out of work. Chipped temporary tooth fix- 2 more hours off work. Permanent crown installation- 3 more hours off work.

Thanks for all the favors, Aspen, but you can keep it next time.

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Being late is not ok, because then they have to push back the other patients who are scheduled after lunch, I don't think that's fair!
Oh and temporary crowns never look as good as the permanent ones, that's why they are temporary and the fact that it's a different color than your other teeth is quite normal-again it's a temporary so it's not the final product. I work at another dental office and people like you annoy me! Get your facts straight and learn to be responsible and leave to your appointments earlier and if you end up having to be rescheduled due to an accident detour, suck it up and be a grown. Nobody is going to give up their lunch break because of you, I never would.

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You have to have a crown on a root canaled tooth and any dentist that tells you otherwise should have their license taken.

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Aspen Dental broken partial

I paid close to $3, 000.00 for dental services at Aspen dental. I got an upper partial and it broke today. I have only had it for 2 years.

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I went through hell with the Fort Myers Aspen Dental Office. I was charged over 4500 out of pocket. I was sent out for my teeth extractions because I am a heart patient and they wanted to pull one at a time, WTH were they thinking and the Dentist told me herself that she was uncomfortable with my heart Hx and I needed to go have them all done at once which cost me another $490 out of pocket and then due to Aspen using up right away my $1500 insurance allowance I am now paying a almost $800 balance the SWF facial Surgery. OK, I had 4 front vineers put on, wasn't told they would widdle my teeth down to sticks (horrified) and they keep failing off and not even a year old. I only did the vineer because they said it would close the space inbetween my front two teeth. Now I have the upside down black triangle. I am so unhappy. My partials look fairly good but you can see all the metal clasp and another (second opinion) dentist said "no, you should not see these" and that they are wrong. My partials are not sharp at all and I have trouble chewing and alos I have to use alot of fixadent to hold the uppers in.

When you try to get in for adustment, you will set for 2-3 hours freaking hours (I have a life). I am trying get anyone that wants to, to join me in sueing their ### for the bad service, Hippa violations (I hear other ppls business in their office all the time), long waiting times, ripped off by them etc. You name it I have experienced it with these ppl. I cry alot because when my vineers fall off in public for no reason (I am and have never been a front biter) I look like a crack hoe. Please contact me at wingsinflight2000@yahoo.com. I want to file a class action suite against Aspen Dental and I want all the ppl hurt by them in anyway to join me.

Carla Covert Fort Myers Beach Florida

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Aspen Dental wrong denture

To start off with, I didnt have the money for 'wax' fitting. I ended up getting 2 wax fittings because they gave me the wrong denture, so happened to be a co-worker of my husband...a man! After 3 weeks of fittings, the denture is WRONG still and peeling apart & doesnt match to my existing bottom teeth. They blamed my teeth as the problem. BAD PEOPLE/COMPANY

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The same thing happened to me. Several wax fittings and dentures that did not match the wax. The dentures must have belonged to someone else because they did not fit. I still have my lower teeth which are twice the size of the teeth in the denture. I cannot chew and have lost 25lbs that I did not need to lose.

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Aspen Dental unsatisfactory crowns

I recieved four crowns on my four front teeth only one out of four are satisfactory they are all different sizes the dentist told me no teeth are the same one of my crowns have some kind of metal filling on the back of it, one is very thick and grinds against my bottom teeth, one you can literally see right through it and can see the post, all this for four thousand dollars and these are my front teeth i'm talking about, my job requires one on one conversations with customers every day, so now what, can they actually get away with this? Where do I go from here? Ive been told by co workers to contact an attorney, I'm looking into it.

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