As an ex 15 year military Anti-Terrorism Officer, I was fool enough to trust the citizens of this country, Val Vail proved me wrong. High bidder on 2 fake, misrepresented gold bars, and an $2.50 Golf Indian Head coin. Sent them back, certified, requesting refund, like another person here, standard response, ‘not going back and forth, going anywhere.’ Val then had the gall to relist all of them at his most recent auction (carried by HiBid, who I had previously complained to, no response, just as bad, the enablers). Still have contacts in the AT world, but held off, used a simple alga rhythm, he uses fake bidders to jack the prices up, but they have IP addresses associated with (he clearly overlooked that, not so smart after all). All could be trace back to Vail (employees/family). There’s a reason he only accepts wire transfers, no recourse (but there is, just have to piss off the wrong person). Problem with the closed auction, that I was taken at, is you can no longer see the bidders, ahh, but live auctions you can. His hero ghost, amongst many is, zop****', seriously, check out his next auction (carried by HiBid), he’ll probably want to change the handles, but he’s too greedy, too much of a low life bottom dweller. I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE all who have been taken by him to file with www.reportfraud.ftc.gov. Together we can make Vail4Jail! (Oh his sweet house and flash vehicle, seized, the family, oh, boohoo). My ex buddies will be involved soon enough.
Recommendation: avoid both, and anyone listed on HiBid