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Slander, Libel, Defamation, Hate Speech, Racism, Lies etc.
12 Libel Suits including from The Fulbright Institute to President Al Carroll


Al Carroll
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  • Mu
    Much Miller Jun 14, 2018
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    There are many many people offering their knowledge and experience for herbal cures and NAFPS likes to slander and criticize this and even try to make it some kind of copywrite of Indigenous peoples... I feel, as long as people respect then is good to use herbal remedies and to receive this kind of wisdom. However NAFPS is not what it seems, it falls into a pattern that has been observed in many areas.. i.e. it is a classic disinformation site designed to confuse. It is part of a bigger agenda. See the following article for more.
    https://muchmiller.blogspot.com

    6 Votes
  • Je
    Jerry Eaglefeather Sep 11, 2017

    That fraudulent web site /blog NAFPS whatever they call themselves. Filled with lies and untruth about anyone who don't agree with them. Including Katz who got upset with me because I got blackindians.com before he did. He did not recognize when I met him at a book showing in NYC and we actually danced and drummed for his event in support for his book. The Jewish None Native man self made authority on Black-Native Americans has insulted me and others a few times. Telling us who we are and what we are not. Along with the numb brains who put that fake organization together. I'm shocked at how many people actually believe in those guy's post. I have been investigated 3 times and needless to say we are still going strong and bigger than ever because of our integrity we stand strong. They never found me to be doing anything wrong with money or misleading anyone and I never will. I am clear in how we present our tribal group. And 98% of our tribal members have Native Heritage. And most have taken DNA test and prove even as low as 1% Native blood. Those guys that post that garbage usually are not even natives themselves. I will tell you that "Frank Farmer" use to be a member of our tribal group and was kicked out because he was practicing racism. And when I confronted him about it, he vowed a vendetta against me and the tribe. So we see that post. And while it is damaging, we know why it was posted. We will not promote hate and we will not promote racism. We did not then and we will not now and we never force anyone to walk the red path that we walk. But we will continue to shine and be proud of who we are without shame.

    9 Votes
  • Ps
    Psiram-Esowatch-Nafps Sep 15, 2017

    @Jerry Eaglefeather The word is spreading about this guy and his site. Their numbers have dropped way down. Very few sign up any more. They are pulling up old threads from years ago that got a lot of views because any thread they create now is getting very few views.

    8 Votes
  • Ps
    Psiram-Esowatch-Nafps Jan 26, 2017

    3 ways to tell if a site is a fake, fraud or scam site

    Look at the website's connection type. A website that has an "https" tag is usually secure--and therefore trustworthy-- This is because "https" sites' security certification is a process most illegitimate sites don't bother with. New Age Fraud does not have an "https" tag

    Security info. A circle with an i before www.newagefraud.org - Security information - "Your connection to this site is not secure - you should not enter any sensitive information on this site (eg. passwords) because it could be stolen by attackers". This is what is happening to those who register on the New Age Fraud site

    The website's "Contact" page. Legitimate sites provide a Contact page so that users can send questions, comments, and concerns to the owner of the site. If the site in question doesn't have a proper Contact page, it should be an immediate red flag.
    No Contact Information – If the website does not have a contact page, or it if does and it only offers a form to fill out or less, this is a strong indicator of fraud. Any legitimate site should have a location listed as well as a phone number and email to contact them. If none of this information is available it is a fraud site. New Age Fraud does not provide this. They provide an e-mail only "mailto:[email protected]" and it comes with the same security warning as above.

    New Age Frauds & Plastic Shamans is a fraud website

    12 Votes
  • Na
    NAFPS warning Jan 24, 2017

    I went to register on the site to make a comment using my e-mail. I did not hear back from them but I got this message when I went to log in to my e-mail after that

    Your account has been temporarily suspended
    Someone may have used your account to send out a lot of junk messages or done something else that violates the Microsoft Services Agreement.

    I think New Age Frauds & Plastic Shamans did something to my e-mail. Do not register with this website.

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    nafps critics Aug 04, 2016

    indianz.com
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    Bear:
    Carroll was the creep who hacked into my wife's MySpace account, stole some photos of my 5 and 7 year old daughters and then posted them on his stupid website.Simply because I disagreed with him about some trivial issue.


    Dude, you are a better man than me. I don't know how you kept yourself from doing a little hunting NDN style. I don't believe I could have mustered up that kind of strength. His time will come one way or another! Lots of non's on there thinking they either speak for Indians or know better than them what is best for them ((I just love when non's try to tell us how to live, what to think, how to vote, what religion we should or shouldn't be) Mahkwa

    15 Votes
  • Sp
    Spam Mail Jul 15, 2016

    The email address I used on NAFPS was filled with spam mail from sex sites and fake sites after I went on the NAFPS site. I had to create a new email address.

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  • Sp
    Spam Mail Jul 15, 2016

    the email address I used on NAFPS has been filled with spam mail from sex sites and fake sites since I went on the NAFPS site and I had to create a new email address

    16 Votes
  • 44
    .44 Jul 15, 2016

    Libel, defamation, slander, etc.
    I gather im not the first and probably wont be the last.
    I suspect an admin of the site to be 'hacking' my computers.

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  • Iw
    I was hacked Oct 14, 2017

    @.44 My computer was hacked. I have a police report

    7 Votes
  • Na
    Native Voice Jul 10, 2016

    The NAFPS website was down between March and May. An increasing number of First Nations and Native American individuals have been speaking out about the lies and hate that have taken hold at NAFPS.

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  • Na
    nafps critics Mar 17, 2016

    you spend a lot of time insulting your own beliefs with the amount of stuff you make up about others as you go along

    you guys make us do facepalms

    19 Votes
  • Ca
    Cate C Mar 15, 2016
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    Hi milehighsalute. I am not a twinkie and I'm not dangerous. I wrote about essiac and chaga tea in the local newspaper because it worked for two friends of mine with cancer. I was very grateful and thankful for that and wanted to give the First Nations the credit for these teas and share the information with friends. I don't understand why that is wrong. I certainly never did it to insult your beliefs. My editor wanted the article written and I wrote it. If you saw something work for loved ones suffering from cancer, wouldn't you want to share it? I've lost several loved ones to cancer and it is not something I wish on anyone. I'm glad I make you laugh but I personally wasn't laughing and I was actually quite upset and saddened by what happened on your site. I have no intention of carrying this on and I even give you some credit for showing up here but I would have preferred to have had a good educational talk on the subject and avoided all of this altogether. Take Care. Cate

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  • Ma
    Maniot-wapow Aug 21, 2017

    @Cate C I wouldn't worry about it some people like shaming and trolling cultural issues. They have given themselves authority on things that they probably don't have. It is always good to be specific about gift who they were given by and what was the occasion and the meaning and be open and personal about it. People can't disregard that. I hope that is helpful.

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    Cate C Oct 17, 2017
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    @Maniot-wapow Thanks. I tried to do that. I do have to worry about it when they are warning people and groups about me for no reason. Are they afraid I am going to write an article on cannabis as a cancer treatment now which is also legal here? My computer was hacked into. My facebook account was hacked, personal photos deleted, my personal e-mail was used to send out junk mail. I had my suspicions but it wasn't until I read it was happening to other people too that I became concerned. They laugh and say only twinkies talk about taking legal action but how else do you deal with something like this? No legitimate site hacks into computers and facebook accounts. What is really going on here? How come I feel like I have stepped into a bad CSI episode of organized crime? And all because I wrote an article on legal cancer teas that I thought would help people? This is all very crazy.

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    Cate C Oct 17, 2017
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    @Maniot-wapow I should have done an article on twinkies instead and saved myself a lot of grief

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEo8BZ7pY4w

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    Cate C Oct 25, 2017
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    @Maniot-wapow On another site there are people talking about their computers being hacked into saying they have proof it was from them. A woman, who is the widow of a Navy Seal, also said they posted weird things about her deceased husband using someone else's obituary with the same name as her deceased husband and they posted documents of other families with similar names as hers but they weren't related to her. She was called all kinds of racist names. She said she had a police report for cyber stalking and hacking.

    I mean who does this? Hacking and posting info from someone else's obituary who happens to have the same name and posting documents on other people who aren't even related to the person? What kind of horrible research is that? Something else is going on here but I'm not going to be the one to try and figure it out. I've got better things to do with my time then deal with this foolishness.

    9 Votes
  • Mi
    milehighsalute Mar 14, 2016

    lol i am indian and grew up in local ndn community and back home (when my parents were still alive)...i am known and NOT full of hate...yet i see how dangerous all you twinkies are and do know you make things up as you go along which is an insult to our beliefs

    the idiot that said we are in it for the money?HAHAHAHAHA what money? legit medicine men arent making money and fraudbusters definately arent

    as far as the amound of white people in our ranks...many of them were naive and been taken by twinkies...now they wised up and became allies so it doesnt happen again...as far as europeans go they have a valid interest...as many twinkies going to europe and defrauding europeans that dont know any better...we put a good dent into making sure non-indians and even sellout indians arent profiting from BS over there

    you guys make me laugh

    milehighsalute

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  • Ps
    Psiram-Esowatch-Nafps Jan 27, 2017

    @milehighsalute real name is Andrew
    works for nova

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  • Wi
    Wise Words Feb 17, 2016

    so true

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  • Na
    nafps critics Feb 09, 2016

    Angelica johanson - tis mal crow was a registered member of the cherokee tribe of oklahoma. he was well known and well respected in native communities and throughout the world. he was resilient and driven. spent many years on the pow-wow circuit, and his list of friends is long (many are also famous/public figures from native american community, whom are also well known and respected). his list of accomplishments is also too long. his traditional beliefs did not allow him to "sell" tradition, and his family and friends are all saddened and hurt to find his name mixed up in anything like this. I google his name, and this comes up. he was trained in traditional medicinal and healing practices by respected elders. he kept and respected these traditions.in keeping with these traditions, he had restrictions on whom he could doctor, and never took payment for doctoring someone. he made money from contemporary means like classes, lectures, consulting with small and major manufacturers and companies about responsible and renewable sourcing and formulation of herbal supplements. he was also a gifted artist and created and sold many works of art, including his beadwork. he was the first enrolled member of a native american nation to have published a book on the practical and responsible use of herbal remedies. so, yes an author as well. anyone who knew him knows this. I am saddened and troubled by the accusatory manner of the acquisition into his genuine identity. I agree with peter in his post when he references a "witch hunt".


    Heather awen - there are people-nafps - misappropriating my story for a smear campaign against raven. obviously anything they say at new age fraud can’t be trusted because look how they used me! I now know they pick and choose information, like they do against their many enemies. i’m probably one now in spite of my work calling out core shaman practitioners doing faux indian rituals for money. wonder what they’ll cut and use out of context for their agenda to make me their enemy? when your own story is twisted by a group, that group is highly suspect and must do a lot to win back trust and show honesty. sadly new age frauds is now clearly exposed as an unreliable news source. maybe they will apologize for using my story out of context without seeking to learn the truth, but the agenda seems to be hatred. sigh. it’s so sad how everyone is played against each other.

    To nafps - you have no clue of the truth. it's so degrading that you pick that without understanding it, and try to capitalize on my suffering. any of you ever talk to the people he's helped? no. it's just pick and choose to attack people. get facts. I can't believe years ago I supported this site. are there not enough people playing wanna be and charging money for it anymore that your enemies now aren't even people who pretend to be indigenous and don't charge money? what happened to this site? I have care packages for political prisoners to make. seems more productive than online bashing people. remember that haters got to hate but the rest of us can work for a better world.

    Do not trust everything you read at nafps

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  • Na
    nafps critics Jan 16, 2016

    > Hello nafps,
    >
    > Yes, we have read his website.
    >
    > No, we do not find him to be "vile" or have anti-feminist views.  If
    > we did and regardless of his other views, the article we feature by
    > him is an excellent rendition of the story of the people of the wind
    > and deserves to be published.
    >
    > We take a dim view of people who hold themselves out to be 'thought
    > police' and attempt to negate, impune or otherwise discriminate
    > against the right of others to speak.   It is our right, his right and
    > your right to speak whatever you wish, so long as it is not intended
    > to harm others.  Your attack is intended to harm an individual -- not
    > to offer  alternative views for the benefit of others.
    >
    > We support and uphold the dissemination of information that upholds
    > American Indian culture and values. 
      Attempts to lump us into a particular class of poliltical philosophy
    > by reason of your negative personal views is not only unfair, it is a
    > crass attempt to threaten us into your way of thinking.
    >
    > Get a life.
    >
    > Sincerely,

    > Manataka American Indian Council

    8 Votes
  • Da
    Daniel G Grant Jan 12, 2016

    Northern Virginia Community College has a policy against harassment: Harassment is any unwelcome verbal, written, or physical conduct that either denigrates or shows hostility or aversion towards a person on the basis of race, color, national origin, age, religion, disability, marital status, or pregnancy that (1) has the purpose or effect of creating an intimidating, hostile, or offensive working environment; (2) has the purpose or effect of unreasonably interfering with an employee's work performance; or (3) affects an employee's employment opportunities or compensation.

    Unwelcome conduct that denigrates and shows aversion towards people based on race, color and religion... Alton Carroll in a nutshell

    9 Votes
  • Na
    nafps critics Jan 07, 2016

    -People at NAFPS accuse you of racism when you just question them. They banned me for being a racist. Me, a guy who lived for half a year amongst native Peruvians and almost married a mestiza from Arequipa. Some racist I am...

    -No discussion is possible at nafps: they have a fixed point of view, and no one is going to question it.

    -you cant criticize them
    They already have pretty much everyone who offered a criticism tagged as a racist.
    They are shrill and irrational in both the management of their website and in their opinions of others.

    -Of course they hardly ever lose a debate: as soon as a debate develops and it isn't going the way they like, an editing frenzy starts, and no one will know what was posted originally. Oh, and if they don't like what you say, you are a racist in their eyes.

    - these NAFPSters have the gall to complain when young people try to take their own lives, and spiritual quests, seriously? Instead of extending a helping hand (provided they know better), they try to kick others down. :P

    - As far as I am concerned, NAFPS is doing as much damage as good. What got my goat was how they treated a couple of sincere young people who went to Peru and tried to incorporate what they've learnt into a new way of life. A bit idealistic, but beautiful. These NAFPSters just couldn't see that these people were MORE of the earth than they themselves. Those young people were salt of the earth, sincere seekers, and respectful. NAFPS are too fanatical to see the real thing. imo, they are throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Condemning genuine frauds and criminals, while also demonizing people who have a genuine intent to help.

    -"Educatedindian' promised not to divulge someone's identity and he BROKE that promise. That is unethical and inexcusable in whatever way we choose to look at it. He may be an educated Indian, but he is also an unethical Indian. The guy has no clue about ethical behavior or running a board. On the NAFPS site, however, this kind of behavior appears to be a common pattern of abuse of posters that are not to the liking of the Admins.

    -Basically, the guy is about self-promotion: "I co-founded New Age Frauds Plastic Shamans (NAFPS). We research and put out warnings to the general public about the frauds, imposters, exploiters, and abusers out there ..." and then goes to promote a book ... More info on this book and how to order it you'll find on AB website ...xyz". Also note that he is maybe 1/4 Mescalero Apache and yet he completely identifies with the NA culture and disidentifies with his other cultures. This is a bit strange in itself... denying part of oneself, because the other part is sexier? Allows for easier self-promotion? Allows for money-making, book-selling, tour-making? He is trying to SELL his stuff on the web under the guise of being "one of the founders of NAFPS".. trying to use NAFPS as a TOOL FOR HIS BUSINESS.

    -in NAFPS you have Brits, Germans, Italians and Swedes judging NA medicine men. These guys have zero credibility.

    -What a bunch of angry paranoiacs and self-congratulatory holier-than-thous.

    -Young NAs live in the cities, learn Feldenkreis, Yoga, what have you, and combine it with what they learnt as kids. Should they be condemned for this? Does this invalidate their authenticity? When they call this approach "disrespectful, selfserving and racist" they just want to preserve their own hold, their own control over the discourse.

    -Imagine the world ruled by NAFPS: no creativity, no innovation, no lightness of touch - it would be an inquisitorial nightmare.

    -NAFPS was asked to stop its libelous and incendiary accusation of upstanding NA members on tribal rolls

    -The problem is that nafps place fast and loose with the accusations. My feeling is that before accusing someone of a fraud, or racism, or potsmoking… a goodly degree of rigour and diligence should be applied to the investigation. NAFPS have none of that. Their schtick has been full of sweeping generalisations, false accusations of racism and other stuff, and outmoded stereotyping. The modus operandi for editing folks posts, there are many childish and ill-considered accusations remaining within those threads directed at anyone and everyone not supporting their status quo. This is dishonest, because it appears not only borne out of plain ignorance but out of a willful intention to silence any critic.

    -it is impossible to dialogue with NAFPS. BTW it is not cowardice to decline to post under such oppressive conditions.

    -these NAFPS people are a great example of dispiriting attitude. They only have the guts to argue on their home turf, with their own cheering crowd. NAFPS is commiting that unspeakable crime: editing other people's posts if they find criticisms they don't like; trying to win a battle by depriving the opponents of their weapons. How very shameful. How cowardly.

    -I read the NAFPS website sometimes and know them well. It's like this, no way am I going to have my post chopped and be told that I am a fraud or under investigation, edited, made a laughing stock of, mocked ...then when I try to seek justice, my post is edited and banned. Sorry, me not a fool.

    -NAFPS does a piss-poor job of identifying frauds and exploiters. They are too irrational.
    In fact I would go so far as to say they are dishonest, childish, cowardly, bitter and imbalanced role players. They have a racist element that is clearly evident. I cannot see why any reasonable or honest person would support them

    -NAFPS has no credibility. It is not based on scholarship. It is an exercise in fraudulence. NAFPS does not represent Native peoples and cultures. The point is that NA cultures are much broader, adaptive and fluid, that they do not conform to a rigid set of rules.

    -NAFPS, indiscriminately judging other people are creating an 'energetic retributive field' which brings them back the energy they are putting out into the world.

    -NAFPS are showing themselves to be singularly unqualified for passing judgement on others (professionally, ethically, spiritually and otherwise). Note that pretty much every single person here, no matter what their beliefs, finds NAFPS distasteful and lacking respect. People have a right to have their opinions heard without being censored, edited, banned or harrassed.

    - NAFPSters claim to act with some authority on behalf of NDN's like they got the backing of some elders or "wise men" to act in childish ways. I think I said before about the disgraceful way they drop addresses, phone numbers and names of anyone who takes issue with their seedy practices. Anyway, today while reading up on this sorry saga, it occurred to me what a dark and shameful cloud it brings over the whole NDN culture. All the name calling, and other childish rhetoric coming from the NAFPS site; The hypocrisy; crying foul play, denial of free speech when they get shut down, then in the very next breath demanding sites which oppose their views be shut down. The sum of it all reflects so poorly on the NDN communities they purport to be protecting. When people act in the disrespectful way and spirit of meanness, as the NAFPSters do, then I can't see anything good coming from it.

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    Cate C Jan 04, 2016
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    oh... one more for you featured on 60 Minutes

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHhLYqF85EA

    and ABC News

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCBRMFBVzi0


    IV Vitamin C cancer treatments. Thankfully, Canada does not listen to the FDA and there are IV Vitamin C clinics and cannabis clinics across Canada. I can attest to this working because my friend's girlfriend was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. As everyone knows it is one of the worst cancers you can be diagnosed with. She was told she had 3 to 6 months to live. She refused to have chemo as she wasn't going to waste what time she had left feeling sicker than a dog on chemo treatments. She did her own research and found IV Vitamin C and did this instead. She is still alive 5 years later. It is your own life and your own choice what you want to do. After watching too many loved ones go through conventional chemo and radiation treatments and die, I would be going to a cannabis and/or IV Vitamin C clinic. I would be seeing a naturopath doctor to help me with diet and supplements and I would be making Essiac tea and Chaga tea and drinking it daily. What others want to do is their own business and it is not for anyone to tell them otherwise but I know what I would do. If you are going to have chemo, it makes more sense to have IPTLD therapy - low dose chemotherapy which is 90% less toxic to the body than a regular chemo treatment and is more effective

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Nvund2ILEo


    I do not find it criminal or fraudulent to share information on other cancer treatments that work for people especially when there have been books and documentaries made on them and there are clinics that use them with notable success. What I do find criminal is the suppression of these treatments and the tobacco science of the drug companies because these treatments would conflict with their own chemical cancer drugs and profit margin. The pharmaceutical companies are not interested in cures, just customers. If it makes me a fraud to state this and write about safer alternatives, so be it. I'm done here too.

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  • Ca
    cancer survivor Feb 06, 2017

    @Cate C http://squareone.chrisbeatcancer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/20-Questions-For-Your-Oncologist.pdf

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  • Ca
    Cate C Jan 03, 2016
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    The Rick Simpson Story on youtube

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmYNLNF7NBw

    Cancer: The Forbidden Cures documentary on youtube with the Essiac story

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km2cqQNFtEs

    Happy and Healthy New Year

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  • Ca
    Cate C Dec 29, 2015
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    Meoquanee, I appreciate your support but I don't want to be involved in this. I want to protect my family and friends. I agree with you on chemo and radiation and there being safer ways. Rick Simpson from Canada cured over 5, 000 people with terminal cancer with cannabis oil alone and many people are starting to turn to it as an alternative to chemo.

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    Jody Metcalfe Dec 28, 2015
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    Sky Davis AKA Christine Sonya Davis AKA Christine Weed of Massachusetts mentioned in an earlier comment is also a fake. Fake Cherokee to be specific. She was outed for lying about being a member of the Eastern Cherokee Nation in several news article. In these articles supposed Cherokee women were protesting Elizabeth Warren's claims of Cherokee ancestry. Even one NAFPS collaborator Robert Schmidt outed her as a fraud. These NAFPS people can't seem to help themselves with all the lies and hatred.

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  • Me
    Meoquanee B Dec 28, 2015

    I read the thread and they say they object to those who take good people who are sick and fool them in to thinking they can be cured, only hurting them more.
    so if Don Cardinal tells someone with cancer to get Essiac from a health store or they do not need chemo but just take Essiac in large doses or if Little Running Deer or Georgina Hnatuik calls Essiac or Chaga First Nation cancer cures or if Hayley Doxtator from Six Nations Reserve in Ontario recommends this traditional cancer treatment to people with cancer and says that stuff really works! or if Ojibwe say it is not fake and used to treat cancer or if Dr. Bruce Hendrick chief of Neurosurgery at Sick Kids Hospital in Toronto recommends Essiac and so does Dr. Martin and the Canadian Journal of Herbalism says it is not a hoax or fake and that it really helped people who took it, that is OK
    but if Cate write an article on it for a small local newspaper because her editor asks her to and she emails friends about it and it helps them she is trying to hurt people and she is a fraud? Gigikenimaa ina? This is how stupid this is. The only reason Cate is on that list is because she went in to support Algonquin friends and they had to dig up some dirt about her or create it.  This group think Algonquin is only a language and not a people or you are only native if you know your family? How many adopted kids know their family? Anyone who think chemo and radiation is safe and good for you is crazy. You ever watch someone waste away after they start chemo? It makes people so sick and they are lucky if they survive it. The side effects are very dangerous. There are safer ways. No cancer industry? Who are they fooling? What rock they living under? I tell people to go to the Gerson or Hoxsey clinics in Mexico because Canada and the USA are to stupid and greedy to look at any thing other then chemo and radiation that fail for most cancers. How do you hide in a labyrinth they are not high walls like a maze? The nazi stuff is just crazy talk. What will they make up next? she's a drug runner who supplied Rob Ford? They are lucky people are not lawsuit happy north of the border or that case list might be longer

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    T Robideau Dec 26, 2015

    Partial criminal and civil court records for Dr Alton Carl ‘Al’ Carroll Jr

    04/25/84 Case#1984CI06508 Bexar Co TX
    05/13/85 Case#069021 Bexar Co TX
    05/21/85 Case#069022 Bexar Co TX
    05/22/85 Case#069023 Bexar Co TX
    03/11/90 Case#457266 Bexar Co TX
    05/24/90 Case#189990 Bexar Co TX
    07/19/90 Case#468344 Bexar Co TX
    04/24/00 Case#2000CI06001 Bexar Co TX
    12/02/02 Case#M-[protected] Maricopa Co AZ
    10/24/03 Case#2003CI16946 Bexar Co TX
    11/04/09 Case#CJ-[protected] Oklahoma Co OK
    06/10/10 Case#GT10021347-00 Loudon Co VA
    09/23/10 Case#GT10037851-00 Loudon Co VA
    09/23/10 Case#GT10037853-00 Loudon Co VA
    10/19/10 Case#GT10044070-00 Loudon Co VA
    10/19/10 Case#GT10044071-00 Loudon Co VA
    11/22/10 Case#GT10046192-00 Loudon Co VA
    11/22/10 Case#GT10046193-00 Loudon Co VA
    11/22/10 Case#GT10046194-00 Loudon Co VA
    06/13/11 Case#GT11019379-00 Loudon Co VA
    11/22/11 Case#GT11044008-00 Loudon Co VA
    11/22/11 Case#GT11044010-00 Loudon Co VA
    11/22/11 Case#GT11044011-00 Loudon Co VA
    11/22/11 Case#GT11044014-00 Loudon Co VA
    01/10/13 Case#2013CI00516 Bexar Co TX

    Al Carroll, currently employed by Northern Viriginia Community College, uses many sock-puppet identities. Carroll uses them to give his 'books' their only good reviews and to spew race-based outrage at others. Many of his assumed identities are female. Some of these many sock puppet identities include, Elizabeth Ann Grossman, LakotaGulfWarParatrooper, IraqWarVet, Trjgirl, Arlene Istehili, UnitedNative, moma_porcupine, daveyp, EducatedIndian, EducatedIndio, Kevin Peter, JohnJB, B Isaac, SamBear, John Martin, and David Yeagley.

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    Doug A. Dec 25, 2015

    Done here

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    Doug A. Dec 25, 2015

    Good comments from FNM on their board

    What I care about is how a lack of education and information can be used to discriminate against others and subject them to a place of cultural inferiority. There are over 1200 distinct First Nations in North America (over 600 in Canada, and over 500 in the US). You would be very wrong to assume that what you think you know is verifiable truth, or that your cultural teachings generalize across other Nations.

    Often I read comments here that are based on a firmly held but ill-informed opinion rather than fact (ie verifiable truth); these opinions come across as “I’m a better Indian than you so stfu.”

    There are vast differences that separate the experience of Native Americans in the US and FNMI people in Canada. If people are unfamiliar with Canadian First Nations experience and history, educate yourselves rather than deny, subjugate, or dismiss.

    The problem is when you make assumptions about other People and Lands.

    My point is that there are many Nations, many voices, many experiences, many opinions, and many facts. I prefer to share facts when I am referring to anything other than my own personal realizations and experiences. To generalize one’s own cultural teachings to other people and nations is disrespectful.

    Where I live, things are different than where you live. Your generalizations sometimes make me feel both sad and angry.
    There is an old cliché: “Opinions are like a**holes. Everyone has one.” When opinion is disguised as fact, we all lose. People get false information which leads to false assumptions, NAFPS is downgraded into another hotspot for gossip and defamation, good people avoid contributing their own knowledge and wisdom to this forum and leave.

    You might want to ask yourself why your northern relatives who come here to participate do not stay.

    Sorry to hear about your tractor Bob. Better luck next time

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    Bob P. Miller Dec 04, 2015

    last time I get a tractor from them

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    Bob P. Miller Dec 04, 2015

    I thought this board was for the North American Farm & Power Show

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    Cate C Dec 03, 2015
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    Do you really think I would allow my son to get on the nafps site to defend me?? That is not my son. That is an old friend of mine. Leave my family alone.

    I have said everything I plan to say about your site and there is nothing else to say. Enough already. Please stop.

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    Doug A. Dec 03, 2015

    F off Al. Cates son is 12 years old. "ian bear" the poster is 75 and I know him. DO NOT bring Cates child into this. Funny how you just show up on the board and change your name to DoesDrugswithHippies when everyone else changed their names and now you are using Clockworkwhite again Al

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    Cate C Dec 02, 2015
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    The complaint board wrote back to say they do not delete comments but they would allow me to make a statement under the post.

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    Doug A. Nov 28, 2015

    Cate they will not delete anything about you even if the complaint board takes off the comments. Ian went in one last time to say it is over and to leave you alone and he said good bye for good and they deleted it because they want to carry this on and they want to target you some more. I told Ian not to go back in again because he only makes things worse even if he means well. I am telling you not to write any more on here no matter what they say and do not even respond to this. If they are going to carry on let them and walk away from it. I know you want a peaceful resolution but they don't or at least someone in there does not so walk away. If they want to show their true colors let them but do not respond. Let it go.

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    Cate C Nov 27, 2015
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    I will say one more thing and then I will shut up for good. I do not consider it cultural appropriation when something is a gift as both Essiac and the Munay Ki were. If I give you a gift and then turn around and accuse you of stealing it, that makes no sense. Chaga has been used for centuries by many cultures. It was the book "The Cancer Ward" by Alexander Solzhenitsyn, that gave the world a glimpse of what the Chaga mushroom can do to cancer patients.
    "Because of this book, many medical researchers went to Siberia to check out the validity of its cancer claims. A medical team found out that although there was a lot of talk about cancer in this place, not even a single cancer patient was admitted in any of its hospitals. They also found out that the Russians, in order to save money on coffee, were brewing Chaga mushrooms instead. Unwittingly, they were able to treat themselves for cancer by drinking this Chaga tea regularly." I do not consider it cultural appropriation when an Algonquin native woman has a calling from God/Creator/Great Spirit who I happen to believe transcends all religious beliefs on this planet so I do not understand what you are talking about. Maybe you could fill me in on the issue here in an educational and rational way instead of just attacking people who may not understand. That does not help your cause. If Earth wants to talk to me about Lakota ways, I will respectfully listen. If Sky wants to tell me about the ways of her people, I will respectfully listen, but if a white European is going to talk at me on issues I happen to know more about because I have done way more thorough research then they have, be prepared for a well debated discussion on the subject matter.

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    Cate C Nov 26, 2015
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    I just find it so sad. the world is already filled with so much hate and intolerance. this really makes me sad. if god/the creator/great spirit has put nora on this path then god will make the path clear for her to do the work she has to do. the I am is not new age. it was one of the seven sacred jewish names for god. it is found in the old testament when god was speaking to moses, "before abraham was, I am" and "I am that I am" and when yeshua (jesus) said I am the way, I am the truth, I am the life, I feel he was talking about god/creator/great spirit. the higher self was taught in the ancient mystery schools of egypt and greece and by the early gnostic christians who believed in the power of nature and spoke of god as father/mother. they also believed in the reincarnation of the soul. when people speak of the pagan christ, this is what they mean. their books were destroyed and they were driven underground or burned as heretics by the roman church in the 4th century. I have never trusted the pharmaceutical companies who are now passing their fourth attempt at taking over natural medicine. I signed the last 3 to stop them. I don't want to fight with anyone who is fn or na. I respect them and have fought with them. I think they have always had the answers we need to live right with mother earth and they will be the environmental leaders in the future as god knows the large corporations on this planet are destroying everything with their greed and need for profit. thank you doug. this is taking a toll on my health and I have to let it go as you say. I wish everyone peace.

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    Doug A. Nov 26, 2015

    Cate is not monitoring the board. She can't see the board because she was banned. She is too busy trying to stay alive and well. Friends send her things that are being written behind her back and then she responds to it in here.

    Cate I am going to say this for your sake because you don't need the stress. Let it go. It is not worth your health to deal with their lies about you. You went in with good intentions to defend your friend Nora and this is what happens to people who disagree with them. It reflects poorly on them, not you. For your sake, concentrate on your health and let this go.

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    Cate C Nov 24, 2015
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    There NAFPS, it is being removed. I've sent the request. When you see it come off, I would appreciate you extending the same courtesy of removing all neo-nazi comments about me.

    Remove my complaint/comment
    please remove comment
    Created: [protected]:09:32 Latest message: [protected]:09:32 sent

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    Cate C Nov 24, 2015
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    Well, I do care what names they call me. I would delete the comments or whatever is false or not true but someone spammed that post and I can't access it. I don't think what Robin said was false though and there is no way she is a neo-nazi and there are parts of Galiquogi Yanssi's post, I have to say I agree with especially about good people getting hurt and the school yard bully scenerio. Unless someone is spewing their radical beliefs, I wouldn't have a clue what they are about. Having said that, I'm going to write to the complaint board and ask them to take down that post and will just leave it at my experience on their board. When someone is trying to suggest I'm somehow involved with nazis and neo-nazis who want natives dead or that I'm a racist or that I'm visiting sites like that and attacking people on them, not only is that not true it is crossing a very serious line and I find it very disturbing on so many levels that someone would even think that of me or write that about me. It is crossing into a legal issue too. You want to call Essiac fake, fine. You want to call me a plagarist because I didn't include a source on your board, whatever. You want to imply I'm a neo nazi or I hang out with neo-nazis who want natives dead or I attack brown people on Nazi boards and you want to spread that about me especially in my own community, No Way! I would have to involve the law in that. I would have no choice. That is not just juvenile or pathetic, that is a serious attack on my character and it is not okay on any level.

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    Doug A. Nov 24, 2015

    it is a tactic they use. mamàndà-gashkitòwin shows up suddenly and heads straight to your post when it was buried somewhere on the second page. Just as Sally suddenly showed up from Glastonbury, says hello and then heads straight to your post when it was somewhere on the second page. It looks suspicious like they were called in to purposely target you. Probably friends of one of the regulars. She said she knows Pete and Nora and will post in their threads but doesn't. You are presenting credible evidence on a complaint board and they can't have that so they target you and make you out to be some kind of abnormal, neo nazi type who hangs out on neo nazi sites and cyber stalks and criminally pushes drugs on people when it is ludicrous and anyone with half a brain cell can see that. It is done on purpose. I know it is hard but you are not alone and know that anyone who knows you knows you are a loving soul and would not harm a fly. Don't let them get to you. They are not worth it. If they want to take out their anger on someone they can target me since I sent you those links. They can call me all the names they want I don't care.

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    toxic tactics Mar 01, 2017

    @Doug A. toxic tactics NAFPS uses to silence and degrade you

    1. Gaslighting.

    Gaslighting is a manipulative tactic that can be described in different variations of three words: “That didn’t happen, ” “You imagined it, ” and “Are you crazy?” A manipulative person will convince you that their view is an inevitable truth while your view is a sign of dysfunction on your end.

    2. Projection.

    Chronically unwilling to see his or her own shortcomings and uses everything in their power to avoid being held accountable for them. Projection is used to displace responsibility of one’s negative behavior and traits by attributing them to someone else.
    Rather than acknowledge their own flaws, imperfections and wrongdoings, they opt to dump their own traits on their unsuspecting suspects.
    They love to play the “blameshifting game.” Objectives of the game: they win, you lose, and you are blamed for everything that’s wrong with them.
    It’s important to cut ties and end interactions as soon as possible.

    3. Nonsensical conversations from hell.

    If you think you’re going to have a thoughtful discussion be prepared for epic mind###ery rather than conversational mindfulness.
    they use word salad, circular conversations, ad hominem arguments, projection and gaslighting to disorient you and get you off track should you ever disagree with them or challenge them in any way. They do this in order to discredit and frustrate you.
    Spend even ten minutes arguing and you’ll find yourself wondering how the argument even began at all. You simply disagreed with them about their absurd claim that the sky is red and now your entire childhood, family, friends, career and lifestyle choices have come under attack. That is because your disagreement picked at their false belief that they are omnipotent and omniscient, resulting in a narcissistic injury.
    They thrive off the drama and they live for it. Each and every time you attempt to provide a point that counters their ridiculous assertions, you feed them supply. Don’t feed them supply – rather, supply yourself with the confirmation that their abusive behavior is the problem, not you.

    4. Blanket statements and generalizations.

    Rather than taking the time to carefully consider a different perspective, they generalize anything and everything you say, making blanket statements that don’t acknowledge the nuances in your argument. Better yet, why not put a fraud label on you that dismisses your perspective altogether?

    5. Deliberately misrepresenting your thoughts and feelings to the point of absurdity.

    Your differing opinions, legitimate emotions and lived experiences get translated into character flaws and evidence of your irrationality.
    They weave tall tales to reframe what you’re actually saying as a way to make your opinions look absurd or heinous, invalidate your right to have thoughts and emotions about their inappropriate behavior .
    They chronically jump to conclusions based on their own triggers rather than stepping back to evaluate the situation mindfully. They make no apologies for the harm they cause as a result. Notorious for putting words in your mouth, they depict you as having an intention or outlandish viewpoint you didn’t possess. So long as they can blameshift and digress from their own behavior, they have succeeded in convincing you that you should be “shamed” for giving them any sort of realistic feedback.

    6. Nitpicking and moving the goal posts.

    The difference between constructive criticism and destructive criticism is the presence of a personal attack and impossible standards. They just want to nitpick, pull you down and scapegoat you in any way they can. They employ a tactic known as “moving the goalposts” in order to ensure that they have every reason to be perpetually dissatisfied with you. This is when, even after you’ve provided all the evidence in the world to validate your argument or taken an action to meet their request, they set up another expectation of you or demand more proof.

    7. Changing the subject to evade accountability.

    This type of tactic is a literal digression from the actual topic that works to redirect attention to a different issue altogether. They don’t want you to be on the topic of holding them accountable for anything, so they will reroute discussions to benefit them

    8. Covert and overt threats.

    Rather than tackle disagreements or compromises maturely, they set out to divert you from your right to have your own perspective by attempting to instill fear in you about the consequences of disagreeing or complying with their demands.

    9. Name-calling.

    In their world, only they can ever be right and anyone who dares to say otherwise creates an injury that results in narcissistic rage. Narcissistic rage does not result from low self-esteem but rather a high sense of entitlement and false sense of superiority.
    Name-calling is a quick and easy way to put you down, degrade you and insult your intelligence, appearance or behavior.
    Name-calling can also be used to criticize your beliefs, opinions and insights. A well-researched perspective or informed opinion suddenly becomes “silly” or “IDIOTic” by those who feel threatened by it and cannot make a respectful, convincing rebuttal. Rather than target your argument, they target you as a person and seek to undermine your credibility and intelligence in any way they possibly can. It’s important to end any interaction that consists of name-calling. Don’t internalize it: realize that they are resorting to name-calling because they are deficient in higher level methods.

    10. Smear campaigns and stalking.

    When they can’t control the way you see yourself, they start to control how others see you; they play the martyr while you’re labeled the toxic one. A smear campaign is a preemptive strike to sabotage your reputation and slander your name . They may even stalk and harass you or the people you know as a way to supposedly “expose” the truth about you; this exposure acts as a way to hide their own abusive behavior while projecting it onto you.
    They will gossip behind your back, slander you, create stories that depict you as the aggressor while they play the victim, and claim that you engaged in the same behaviors that they are afraid you will accuse them of engaging in. They will also methodically, covertly and deliberately abuse you so they can use your reactions as a way to prove that they are the so-called “victims” of your abuse.
    The best way to handle a smear campaign is to stay mindful of your reactions and stick to the facts.

    11. Bait and feign innocence.

    Toxic individuals lure you into a false sense of security simply to have a platform to showcase their cruelty. Baiting you into a mindless, chaotic argument can escalate into a showdown rather quickly with someone who doesn’t know the meaning of respect. A simple disagreement may bait you into responding politely initially, until it becomes clear that the person has a malicious motive of tearing you down.
    By “baiting” you with a seemingly innocuous comment disguised as a rational one, they can then begin to play with you.
    It helps to realize when you’re being baited so you can avoid engaging altogether. Provocative statements, name-calling, hurtful accusations or unsupported generalizations, for example, are common baiting tactics. Your gut instinct can also tell you when you’re being baited

    12. Aggressive jabs disguised as jokes.

    They enjoy making malicious remarks at your expense. These are usually dressed up as “just jokes” so that they can get away with saying appalling things while still maintaining an innocent, cool demeanor.
    like a predator that plays with its food, they take pleasure from hurting you and being able to get away with it. After all, it’s just a joke, right? Wrong. It’s a way to gaslight you into thinking their abuse is a joke – a way to divert from their cruelty.
    Calling out manipulative people on their covert put-downs may result in further gaslighting from the abuser but maintain your stance that their behavior is not okay and end the interaction immediately if you have to.

    13. Condescending sarcasm and patronizing tone.

    Belittling and degrading a person is their forte and their tone of voice is only one tool in their toolbox. They use sarcasm chronically as a way to manipulate you and degrade you. If you in any way react to it, you must be “too sensitive.”
    Forget that the toxic person constantly has temper tantrums every time their big bad ego is faced with realistic feedback – the victim is the hypersensitive one, apparently.
    You don’t deserve to be spoken down to like a child – nor should you ever silence yourself to meet the expectation of someone else’s superiority complex.

    14. Shaming.

    “You should be ashamed of yourself” is a favorite saying. Shaming is an effective method that targets any behavior or belief that might challenge them. It can also be used to destroy and whittle away at a victim’s self-esteem.
    They enjoy using your own wounds against you – so they will even shame you about any abuse or injustice you’ve suffered in your lifetime as a way to retraumatize you.

    15. Control.

    Most importantly, they love to maintain control in whatever way they can.
    That’s why they manufacture situations of conflict out of thin air to keep you feeling off center and off balanced. That’s why they chronically engage in disagreements about irrelevant things and rage over perceived slights.
    Don't fall for their toxic tactics.

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    Glastonbury Feb 19, 2018

    @Doug A. If Sally does live in Glastonbury she would know there is a big book store right on the main or high street called "The Labyrinth". It got that name for a reason.

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    Cate C Nov 23, 2015
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    It is just so frustrating Doug because there are just so many lies being spread and I can't address them. It is my name that is being smeared, my reputation and they just think that is okay and I should just shut up and take it. It is not right what they are doing. It is not fair. It is wrong. This has nothing to do with FN or NA anything. This is just about them and what they are doing. Honest to God, I never thought going in there and defending Nora and Pete would lead to this insanity. But you are right, the more you try to defend yourself, the more they try to find ways to discredit you even if they are so far off in left field it is crazy. I don't get it and I don't want to get it. I'm tired of it.

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    Doug A. Nov 23, 2015

    Don't engage the beast Cate. This is just another pathetic and juvenile attempt at discrediting you by giving more false info. Red, give your head a serious shake buddy. Next time there is a shooter we will think of you retired old disabled teacher Cate Crow of the Green Party handing out native cancer tea recipes. They are seriously hitting an all time low here. They even turn on their own when they try and speak some truth about you. It just reflects poorly on them. Go for tea with Nora but forget about them.

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    Psiram-Esowatch-Nafps Jan 16, 2017

    @Doug A. There are many sock-puppet identities used on the NAFPS site that are not real people.

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    Cate C Nov 23, 2015
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    mamàndà-gashkitòwin

    I am going to invite you to do something NAFPS doesn't seem to like to do, meet me in person over a cup of tea. Since you are coming to my neighbourhood and want to warn a lot of people about me and my Nazi connections???, I think it is only fair you meet me first, in person. Since you read about me, you will know I am a retired teacher on a disability pension. I spent years teaching native history to middle school children and spent a good part of my life fighting for First Nation rights in this country. My Cree relatives are all enrolled member of a Northern Manitoba band. Since you and I both know Nora, I will ask her to join us. Facebook message me and I will arrange a time and date where we can meet.

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