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Krystal International Vacation Club [KIVC] - Eskape membership

In January 2024 I purchased the EsKape membership from Krystal that would allow me to book stays from $71 per night or $499 per week on any room type, including studios to 4 bed suites at five-star hotels and resorts throughout the world. They shared examples from Greece, New Zealand, Spain, Germany, Hawaii, New York and California and claimed that they...

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Krystal International Vacation Club [KIVC] EskapeByKrystal and Krystal International Vacation Club membership

When I entered into this agreement for the ownership of a 2-bedroom vacation package priced at $22,811, I was verbally assured that the package offered lifetime validity and exemption from any additional annual maintenance fees. Furthermore, a critical verbal stipulation was made, committing to an annual reimbursement by the resort. This reimbursement involved renting my owned 2-bedroom unit to generate income, which was then promised to be paid back to us at $6,000 annually for a duration of 5 years. Regrettably, upon thorough examination of the signed contract, I have discovered that these essential terms were deliberately omitted and are not reflected within the written agreement.

Additionally, in relation to the EskapeByKrystal service, I was presented with an opportunity to acquire membership rights enabling the rental of a 2-bedroom vacation home at a rate of $71 per night for up to 7 days, anywhere at any hotel or resort. The initial presentation assured me of a one-time fee of $825 for lifetime access, alongside an annual credit of $2,000. Unfortunately, the actual experience deviates significantly from these assurances. Instead of the guaranteed benefits, I have been subjected to market-based pricing for vacation rentals, coupled with an extended term of 10 years and an additional fee

The stark disparities and misrepresentations between the verbal assurances provided during the presentation and the written terms of the contract raise serious concerns regarding the transparency and integrity of this agreement. The verbal commitments were instrumental in influencing my decision to proceed with the timeshare acquisition, and the omission of these commitments within the written contract is deeply unsettling.

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Krystal International Vacation Club [KIVC] Vacation Club

Signed up December 2022- Gave so far $2,500.00 deposit in good faith to realize nothing they promise is true.

The total amount they signed me for is $7,000.00 total to find out all I'm entitled is 25% off on their room rates.

They told me I would get a suite once a year for $499.00 for a week.

Now they are saying this is only if I sign up for 20K-40K contact.

Desired outcome: I would like my deposit back.

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Our verdict: Complaints Board's thorough examination reveals Krystal International Vacation Club [KIVC] as a legitimate entity with notable strengths. Despite a 18% resolution rate on customer complaints, which invites a closer look, Krystal International Vacation Club [KIVC] stands out for its commitment to quality and security. Clients considering Krystal International Vacation Club [KIVC] should delve into its customer service record to gauge compatibility with their expectations.

Krystal International Vacation Club [KIVC] earns 91% level of Trustworthiness

Perfect Trust Endorsement: Krystal International Vacation Club [KIVC] achives 91% ligitmacy per Complaints Board. Highly recommended, yet always stay vigilant.

We found clear and detailed contact information for Krystal International Vacation Club [KIVC]. The company provides a physical address, 4 phone numbers, and 2 emails, as well as 3 social media accounts. This demonstrates a commitment to customer service and transparency, which is a positive sign for building trust with customers.

The age of Krystal International Vacation Club [KIVC]'s domain suggests that they have had sufficient time to establish a reputation as a reliable source of information and services. This can provide reassurance to potential customers seeking quality products or services.

Kivc.com has a valid SSL certificate, which indicates that the website is secure and trustworthy. Look for the padlock icon in the browser and the "https" prefix in the URL to confirm that the website is using SSL.

Kivc.com has been deemed safe to visit, as it is protected by a cloud-based cybersecurity solution that uses the Domain Name System (DNS) to help protect networks from online threats.

According to our analysis, Krystal International Vacation Club [KIVC] appears to be offering travel services on their website. While many travel companies are legitimate, it's important to be cautious and do your research before booking a trip to ensure that you are getting a good deal and not falling victim to a scam.

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  • While Krystal International Vacation Club [KIVC] has a high level of trust, our investigation has revealed that the company's complaint resolution process is inadequate and ineffective. As a result, only 18% of 22 complaints are resolved. The support team may have poor customer service skills, lack of training, or not be well-equipped to handle customer complaints.
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Krystal International Vacation Club [KIVC] Maintenace Fees

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I received a call from Miami, FL [protected] asking for authorization to charge my CC with annual maintenance fees for KIVC. I objected and stated that according to my contract, I would never pay maintenance fees unless I elected to use my vacation weeks, and I hadn't done so.

I was asked to provide proof of this. I stated, that I was at work at the time and the contract was in my home. They have the contract and they should look it up, I was not their secretary after all.

The person phoning stated what I thought was, 'Fine, we'll just place you in rescission." and hung the phone up on me.

I have checked my contract and was correct about the contract addendum.

This incident led me to this site which has me questioning the entire purchase. I tried to reach my KIVC contact, Roman, who hasn't replied back. I haven't heard from the Global Vacation Sales team since I paid them for their services. I haven't tried to book any trips with Escape yet. Was I scammed? Should I continue to trust I will receive what I purchased? Should I request a cancellation? Or should I seek the help of an attorney?

Desired outcome: I'm thinking cancellation and no future payments may be the best resolve since the record keeping seems shady to me.

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Did you end up getting out of it?

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Krystal International Vacation Club [KIVC] Time share

Wow! My nightmare begun March 18, 2022, at the airport, we were in vacation mode a gentleman approached us and offer to pay for our taxi and offer us breakfast and discounted tickets to local attractions all we needed to do was to attend a 30-minute presentation, he also asked us to lie about our marital status since I was traveling with my sister "big mistake". We sat through the timeshare presentation and after 4 hours of them talking and offering thing after thing we were convinced that this was a worthwhile investment. The salesman told us that him himself was going to list my 25 weeks in his inventory and was going to sale them for $2,000.00 US dollars and withing 2 years I would make my invested money back and the last 3 years were going to be "money in my pocket" those were his exact words. We finally gave him my personal information, but also gave him a credit card to charge the down payment, after about 15 minutes he came back with an approval of a credit card from RCI Barclays Mastercard which I didn't approved, after questioning him about that he responded that that was the way they had to do it, I had been denied of a store cc a couple months earlier why will Barclays cc company agreed to lend me money in such a short notice? some might think that they are working together. March 31st. I got an e-mail from GTS which is a travel company that would list my weeks, but they were asking for more money, I spoke in length with the gentleman from GTS, and he informed me that my weeks would sale for no more than $1,500 and that the maintenance fee of over $800 will be deducted from that, something else that salesman ignored to tell me, leaving me with at the most $700, that's a big difference, and now reading about other members and the fact that they haven't been able to sale their weeks!. I immediately begun my hunt for the salesman and the "calidad de servicios" to get information about this, I have proof of many e-mails staying that "I want to cancel the contract", WhatsApp messages, text messages to personal phone #. and they haven't responded, they continue to ignore my calls, messages, emails, etc... I filed a fraud complaint to Barclays credit card company and got denied, I haven't even activated the card, then I filed a dispute for the charge, I'm still waiting for a response. I am in the process of filing a complaint with the US Consumer affairs fraud department and the Better Business Bureau as well as the Mexican Procuraduria Federal del Consumidor. This scam needs to be stopped, if anybody wants to proceed with a legal action, please count me in.

Desired outcome: I would like Krystal International Vacation Club to cancel my contracts on the timeshare, a full refund to the Barclays credit card they opened in my name and I would appreciate a response as soon as possible.

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Do you have any updates on this

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Krystal International Vacation Club [KIVC] Time Share

On 03/20/2011 We were sold a timeshare and an investment opportunity.

Our account number is [protected]

The person representing Krystal International Vacation Club was Rafael Septien.

We initially opted to purchase a membership for $14,300.00

We were told that there would be a biannual maintenance fee of $693.73 but that if we did not opt to reserve the room on any given year, the maintenance fees would be completely offset by the club renting out the space.

We were also sold an investment opportunity for an additional total of $8,250 which was processed on our Visa Credit Card on the same day as the original timeshare purchase. In this agreement, Rafael Septein explained that because the hotel was undergoing renovation, if we invested $8,250 on that day, we would receive $7,000 In September of 2011, $8,700 in March 2012, $10,000 in March 2013 and $10,000 in March 2014 for a total of $35,700. return on our investment.

We never received any return on our investment and later found out that it was illegal by Mexican law to even make such a deal. After numerous attempts to get our money back through both written correspondence and telephone conversations, we finally gave up. Then, after a short period of time we began receiving demand for maintenance fees.

We never made another trip to Cancun.

Desired outcome: We would like a full refund of $8250.00, an apology and any/all contracts and obligations canceled.

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Krystal International Vacation Club [KIVC] Services not provided as indicated in sales meeting-Fraud and unethical

We were sold a scam membership and asking for our monies to be returned. There are thousands of complaints indicating fraud and legal recourse against Krystal Cancun International Vacation Club. We have yet to receive any information back on why the membership that we were sold is not the membership that is being offered.

On the morning of September 5, 2021, the high pressure sales team were truly friendly but also very good at giving you a high rate of info, and no time to think things out. We were convinced by our Krystal sales person and his supervisor, that the financial burden of a time share could be alleviated, if we bought into the shares as an investment opportunity. We were also told that the ESKAPE program offered thousands of hotels offered through all the major hotel chains and resorts and provided a week stay from $199-$399 per week. This is not what is provided in the least bit. We were told that our weeks would be sold and paid back to us. We have not heard anything from Global Travel. We were completely scammed. The companies keep changing over the years, on who is offering the program, as I am sure it is due to being a scam and needing to change it up every few years, once enough noise from people who have been scammed.

We have stopped any and all future payments to Krystal and are asking for our monies to be returned, or we will seek legal counsel and contact PROFECO.

Our demands are simple and if we don't receive satisfaction ASAP we will flood the internet and social media with all details of your scam.

Desired outcome: Cancel contract and receive refund of monies already paid.

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Apr 01, 2022 8:20 am EDT
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My fiance and I are in the same predicament. Did they cancel and refund money to you? We purchased to solidify not only our ability to fulfill our travel experiences, but additionally, our wedding in Cancun. In SO disgusted with the roach motel options and lack of places offered for the $399 & under! This is NOT how it was explained. We were told $399 or less inclusive of over 500,000 resorts and cruises. What is given through this membership is not a "deal" at all. Don't forget the $16,000 plus that is already paid to be a member for the next 10 years.

Please help me get my money back!🙏 😢

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Kelly, I find myself in the same situation as you described here. I’m mad at myself for falling for this scam. Were you able to get any updates on your membership/refund?

Thanks

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Krystal International Vacation Club [KIVC] Time share

Dn September 16. 2021, we went to Krystal Cancun Resort for a family vacation. We were aware that we will be doing a
limeshare since we booked the hotel through 3rd party vendor. We began the timeshare with Mariana, sales agent, and
oscar Garcia-Sales Manager on September 17, 2021. We went through the four hours presentation with open minds.
I'hrough the presentation. Oscar and Mariana explained to us that they are presenting a very limited offer where (1) we can
purchase a timeshare for $17.399 and (2) we can put the Krystal Cancun suite on rent for 25 weeks for the next five years
and receive $6, 000 check a vea
that we can use toward our $17.399 payment or personal use with one time activation fee of
B499 which we paid on Octok
Of, 2021 via CC ending in 1395 and 2575 (Receipt Attached). Both also told us that as long
as we book a resort post 90 days, we can stay anywhere in the world for $399 a week in five star or diamond star hotels with
Ihe whole family. We were also explained that if we take this one-time deal, we won't have to pay yearly maintenance fee
since we will be red
our suite out for the next 25 weeks. We ONLY have to pay the maintenance fee if decided not to rent
Ihe 25 weeks and will be staying at the Krystal Cancun Resort in the future. (Signed pages and contract attached)
After they explained to us the details of this timeshare, we explained to both Mariana and Oscar that this is too expensive
and that the only time we do take vacation is to go to India to visit family and friends once or twice a year. We also explained
that this does not seem financially viable to us. Mariana and Oscar then proceeded to show us an app on her phone where
she searched flights to India for just $400 at any time. Mariana even put in future dates in the app to show us the prices for
Air India. When Mariana showed us that app, that is when we became slightly interested since we take a trip to India as a
family of 6. Mariana and Oscar also explained to us that we can even book flights for other family members without any
issues and others can use our timeshare points to book hotels and resorts. Mariana told us that once our membership is
activated after 45 days. we will receive email on how to book hotels and resorts and an information about the app to book
flights. There was no upfront payment taken at the time of signing the contract but instead insisted that we can open up a
:redit card with their partnered company "Barclay Bank" for around $6, 700 that we can pay with 9 months no interest fee and
pay the remaining balance of $11, 399 via our personal CC.
chen we received our membership login user and password to book hotels and resorts we realized that what was explained
to us and what we are given is untrue. The $399 a week stay at any hotels and resorts while that may be true but what we
were not explained was that we cannot go according to the dates of our choosing. We have pre-determined dates chosen
and once we researched on the resorts that they mentioned were not at all five-star hotels. The actual resorts are also
offering the same $399 a week stay on their website. We are also not saving as much money as we thought on the hotels
and resorts booking.Both agents are not getting back to us after our account was activated in 45 days. we put our trust. faith
and our money on this only to be fooled.

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Mar 28, 2022 9:01 pm EDT

same thing happened to my familly ...what can I do.

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Krystal International Vacation Club [KIVC] Have no email address to contact Krystal to transfer my deposit

We have a time share with Krystal. We have paid our dues for this year. We are attempting to have our timeshare deposited into RCI but can find no e mail or contact source. I have attempted several times to email last known address that I have used for past 5 years to have timeshare transferred. However this year emails are not being answered and my account has not yet been transferred. All I want is for someone to give me accurate contact info.
Account Clara Habeeb and Steven D. Habeeb
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please deposit our week to RCI and mail confirmation to [protected]@gmail.com

Desired outcome: Have someone from Krystal deposit my week and email my confirmtion

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Krystal International Vacation Club [KIVC] Krystal International Vacation Club, Unable to even access membership

Me and my wife purchased a membership on July 18, 2021. As of today Oct 11, 2021, we have been unable to access the account at all. All phone numbers given to use lead to being told that we have no account in the system. We have monthly payments coming out and nothing to show for it. I want to be able to access our account or to cancel the contract which we have not been able to use. The contract number is CCE14045.

Desired outcome: Canceled contract or at the minimum access to our account

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Were you able to get a resolution? I’m trying to work out if this is a lost cause and to just accept the money is gone.

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Krystal International Vacation Club [KIVC] Contact CCC1440

Terminating a Contract sold to Roxanne Galvan on June 29, 2021. Under false pretenses. I have tried numerous way to contact you. PHONE, EMAIL, mailing a letter, Now This complaint. Please refund my deposit. I have numerous records of complaints from others as well. You have my contact information.

Desired outcome: reimbursement of my deposit back to my RCI Barclay account

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Krystal International Vacation Club [KIVC] Timeshare services

To whom it may concern,
We María E. & Angélica E. Hernández would like to cancel Agreement #CCE13950 because after coming home & reviewing the contract, it was more expensive then what we were told. At this time we don't have enough money to cover this . We really appreciate your consideration on the matter & please cancel our contract . Thank you very much!

Maria E. Hernandez & Angélica E. Hernandez

Desired outcome: Cancelation of Agreement #CCE13950

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Krystal International Vacation Club [KIVC] Timeshare

To: Krystal International Vacation Club (Cancun, Mexico)

From: Ronald and Nancy Bastien
28 Royal Estate Dr
Pontypool, ON, Canada
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Krystal:
I would like to start with the positive. The resort is average, staff is friendly, the beach is like something off a post card and the food is above average. Really was a good vacation if it wasn't for the aftermath of the time share fiasco the loud noises from surrounding bars all night long.
On the morning of December 12 2017, my wife Nancy and I (Ron) where pressured into attending a time share sales pitch at Krystal Resort during our stay at same resort. Although we were impressed with what they had to offer, we had no financial means of getting into a contract. The high pressure sales team were truly friendly but also very good at giving you a high rate of info, and no time to think things out.
We were convinced by our Krystal sales person and his supervisor, that the financial burden of a time share could be alleviated, if we bought into the shares as an investment opportunity. If we bought the 17 weeks (13 weeks plus 4 bonus weeks) we would be guaranteed a projected annual average of 200% of bi-annual maintenance fee. We were also told that the weeks would all be sold in a average of 2 to 3 years. As explained to us, the bonus for us would be that our shares, although not used by us would create an income that we could use to travel to other destinations using the ICE rewards program and RCI that we would be register for if we bought in.
The cost to us in US funds that day was as follows:
2625.00 down payment (paid December 12 2017)
7875.00 financed on monthly payments (186.18 a month till 01/01/23)
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10 500.00 Purchase price

1 189.00 Administrative registration fee (paid December 12 2017)
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11 689.00 Total charge and Finance, billed by Krystal for purchase of above mentioned 17 weeks.
840.07 Maintenance fee for first year (billed bi-annually with increased cost every year "862.76 for 2019" for the 17 weeks when used)
862.07 X 17 = 14 655.19
Total cost of ownership once all 17 weeks are used and/or sold 11 689.00 + 14 655.19= $26 344.19 (plus interest and increased maintenance cost year over year)

As explained by sales staff at Krystal, using the 200% average above maintenance fee promised the financial gain was:
200% of 840.07 = 1680.14 X 17 weeks = $28 562.38
28 562.38 - 26 344.19 = $2 218.19 profit.
This $2 218.19 profit would likely cover interest and maintenance fee increase if our time shares were all sold in the 2-3 years promised. The gain for us would be discount travel through RCI and ICE rewards program included in our Krystal International Vacation Club membership.
The Problem:
After the first two years with not a single sale or even offer of sale we realized that the whole deal was a scam through several different search parameters on the internet. We opted to buy out of our time share to avoid the bi-annual maintenance fees that would just keep adding to our depts. We have ever since been trying to come up with a solution to recovering our costs with the resort but the fail to respond to all of our correspondences.
As for the ICE rewards we were looking forward to using. Our experience has not been any better. The resorts they promised in presentation are never available and the ones that are, are of very low ratings at costs equal to or higher than available through any of the popular travel web sites. Therefore totally not worth the investments.
As for returning to Krystal and use the time we paid for. Why would we return to a place that lied to us and stole our money?
The Solutions:
If you have been caught up in this scam, and you are within the cancelation period, cancel.
If you are within the first 90 days and you paid with credit card, call your card holder and have them reverse the charge, and investigate the fraudulent charges.
If you are too late like we were, flood the internet with bad publicity but ensure that all your facts are accurate and true. Eventually they will have to respond to you. It's already worked for others.

Yours truly
Ronald and Nancy Bastien

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I hope you both are doing well. This is all too familiar. Have you had any updates ?

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Krystal International Vacation Club [KIVC] Fraudulent vacation club program

We've been scammed by Krystal Internal Vacation Club in Cancun. My husband and I went on our honey moon in Cancun in 2013 and was extremely unfortunate to have come across the people of the Krystal Hotel.

We fell for the whole "free breakfast if you listen to our presentation" trick.
Originally we had thought it was a group presentation deal, but when we arrived we met up with one of their super friendly rep. He was so interpersonal and friendly that we thought we were having a good time. After breakfast he took us to their office and showed us of one of their sales guy. He made a super nice pitch promising that we're making an extremely good investment and that we'll triple our money in three years. We were skeptical and was hesitant at first, but when he made his sales pitch, it seem like everything would work out.

So we unknowingly signed the contract with them. That night, we were still a bit skeptical so we did some search on the internet and found that there were complaints about them. We went and confronted the guy the next day, but again, he made it sound like the internet stories were not true and that he promise that they were not as scam like they say. They also promised that the investment was going to go into expanding their facilities and that they will have more customers in the years to come.

After coming back to the U.S. we've contacted the broker several times to see how our rental unit was doing, and every time, he would said that they have potential candidates, but then months would pass by and nothing. Whenwe call back he would say that they were unable to rent it out. How can a unit in an expanding facility go for two years without being able to have any tenants?

We wrote several emails to Martha Gonzalez (Quality Assurance), Sylvia Gonzalez (Member Service) [protected]@kivc.com, and Cynthia Saldivar (Member Services & reservation) asking how we can be more involved and check the status of our units but unless the email is related to making a payment to them, they never reply to any of our questions or concerns.

After two years of not receiving any returns on our "investment", I've finally wrote them a letter stating that we are not willing to make anymore payments to a fraudulent program.
To pray on people's hard earned money and lying to them is immoral and unethical. Please do not fall for these types of frauds. I've learned my lesson the hard way

Lien Phan

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Nguyen Tony
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Mar 28, 2022 9:27 pm EDT

we suffered badly with this fraudulent scam, they lied, paid more then $12,000 already still have a balance of $6,000 ,should we stop make anymore payment?

what can we do?

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Krystal International Vacation Club [KIVC] timeshare scam

my husband and I were on our first vacation to mexico feb 2013, we were approached at the super market down the street by a man who called himself hector the protector, told we could get a free whale watching tour for listening to a hour presentation at krystal. we were sent off to the office in back with a salesman named Jim Luhrs (an American) he plied us with drinks and put the high pressure sales to us after hours of saying no to the timeshares, he came up with we would not have to even stay there and with the help of a company named van com(we found out a bogus company) we would eventually be able to pay off the timeshares and make some money so it was a good investment. we still said no but this man was very persistent, and eventually we agreed and signed.we were to receive our first monies in nov 2013, last month (july) I got a bad feeling and decided to check on things, that's when we found out van com was no longer going. so we contacted krystal, we told them about the lies their salesman told us and asked to have our contract canceled considering the unethical and fraudulent circumstances it was signed. of course they refused . we are now disputing it with our credit card and we are writing a letter to profeco. needless to say I am having a breakdown over this. they should be sued for not only financial damages but emotional as well. someone suggested a class action suit, I'd be up for it. this winter we were going to go back to mexico, but have such bitterness against the whole place we are going to cuba instead. If all this fails we will pay off the mastercard, chop it and let the chips fall were they may. any helpful advice would be welcome.

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Jun 26, 2015 2:55 pm EDT

contact me as I am working for a client that was also ripped off by this person Pauline Fletcher [protected]

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Santa Monica, US
Oct 11, 2013 12:35 pm EDT

Timeshare scams are HUGE problem in Mexico. We purchased a Royal Elite Timeshare last year. We were promised all kinds of opportunity, while they kept serving us cold Coronas. Between HSI, RCI, and Royal Elite it seems that this is all a scam. We initially made three payments of $800, and now after Royal Elite has made a mistake with their collections back in the end of 2008, Monterey Financial has been threatening to send me to court to recover the unpaid portion ever since. Royal Elite is almost impossible to contact. This has become a huge pain, and a troubling financial burden. These are more complaints made on the Royal Elite timeshare resorts:

http://www.timesharescam.com/timeshare-complaints-resorts-black-list/6-royal-elite-sandos-timeshare-complaints/

We will not go down without a fight. We are working now with PROFECO and will continue to haunt them

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Krystal International Vacation Club [KIVC] Fraudulent sales practices

I and my husband, on July, 05, 2010 had been trapped of fraudulent Krystal International Vacation Club.
When we and our son got thru customers in Cancun, we were surrounded by many people who wants to drive us to our resort. We agree go with one of driver who works for Krystal Resort. He make us to come for 75 minutes presentation, but extended to over 3 hours. Mr Rafael Spiting introduced himself as one of partners of Krystal Resort.
He was very charming and smooth, fast talking and full of knowledge how to make money of rental.
We expressed to Rafael Spiting that we were not interested in purchasing into the Club Vacation because we have already Horizon of Marriott Timeshare and we can’t have second. After continuous decline, he wrote on Rental Application Form that would make for 3 years rental $26, 600 even end of 2010 would make $10, 000 and will buy my Horizon Timeshare for $18, 000. Mr Rafael repeats many times that rental is GUARANTEED. He gave us “False Contract” as investment with his signature that show for 3 years rental. We believed his Guaranteed Rental Program is true.

When we came back to United State I contact him by e-mail regarding the rental, never got answer. When I e-mail with question about rent to Quality Assurance, Martha Gonzalez answered that the contract that signed out not promised any rental. Basically this contract # CHCC 9233 that we signed and another “contract” was built on lies, and it was presented to us as NOT Time Share but was presented exclusively as a property investment with high profit returns.
After 3 hours lies by Mr Rafael Spiting he made us tried and stupid and he succeeded because we signed the contract that didn’t have any promise that he spoke about it to us.
As a consumer we have right to receive sufficient and truthful information about the product acquired
(articles 32, 33 & 34 of the Federal Consumer Protection Law of Mexico). The Krystal Club purposely
Misrepresented their product.

Finally, we decided to talk about Krystal International Vacation Club sales tactics are intentional, unethical, fraudulent, deceitfully and misleading, this type of action is illegal every where as possible.
We are still seeking to be our funds reversed to my credit card and the whole contract #CHCC-9233 totaling amount #10.205 be is cancelled and voided.

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San Diego, US
Aug 05, 2013 12:48 pm EDT

I know how you feel, and it seems like this is a common problen in Mexico. I purchased a travel program through Sandos Playacar at Royal Elite Timeshare Resort in Playa del Carmen last March and I requested to cancel within the 5 day grace period but they still have not refunded my down payment of over $9000 US dollars. I have been in touch with people there and they say they are working the process but it takes time. It has now been almost 5 months and I am losing faith they will ever pay me back. This is another forum with more complaints about this company:

http://www.timesharescam.com/timeshare-complaints-resorts-black-list/6-royal-elite-sandos-timeshare-complaints/

I believe we should do something about it, as I understand Mexican regulations forbid the offering of gifts, free vacation certificates or any other promotion strategies without informing the consumer the specific purpose of the offer. I want to complaint with PROFECO about this, and get my money back

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Krystal International Vacation Club [KIVC] Fraudulent Designer Purses

We stayed at the Krystal International Vacation Club last week at the Puerto Vallarta resort, and had an OK experience at the resort. We spend much of our time at the beach in front of the resort, mostly because we didn't understand the bus system enough to venture far from the hotel.
I was approached by someone selling designer purses while I was sunbathing at the Krystal beach, he had a lot of nice bags. I purchased one of his Gucci bags for $100 USD - a good deal I thought.
When I left the country, my bag started to fall apart at the seams. I took the bag to a Gucci store and the lady said it was fake! Krystal should take better care of their guests, and not allow beach vendors to sell fake items on their beach.
We were scammed by someone we thought that the KIVC people had screened. I don't think its right that they let people buy fake goods right under the resort.

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Donnie Bishop
Edmonton, CA
Oct 17, 2012 9:04 am EDT

OMG so its the resort's fault that you bought a GUCCI purse on a Mexican beach for $100!?! Common sense would tell you that the chances of a mexican beach vendor selling authentic Gucci - or any brand name - is slim to non-existant.
Blaming the Krystal hotel - or their timeshare department is not the answer. Take responsibility for your actions and own your mistakes.

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Toby Rutherford
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May 30, 2012 5:09 am EDT

And why is it the Krystal timeshare company's fault that independent beach vendors are selling counterfeit garments.

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Toby Rutherford
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May 30, 2012 5:08 am EDT

LOL where do you pay $100 for a real Gucci handbag? Obviously a beach vendor selling purses would be selling fakes. Get real.

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Krystal International Vacation Club [KIVC] Timeshare Scam

While on vacation in Cancun, I decided to listen to a sales presentation by the Krystal International Vacation Club at the NH Krystal Resort. The company appeared to be legitimate and even had former Dallas Cowboy great Rafael Septien as one of their salesmen.

Nothing interested me until I was ready to leave and the final salesman (possibly the sales manager) made me an offer I couldn’t refuse. For $4, 900.00 I could get 10 weeks at the NH Krystal Resort over the next 10 years (1 week per year) as well as membership into their vacation club where you got the first 2 years free and could remain a member as long as you paid the annual dues. Here they guaranteed a weeks stay at resorts all over the world for no more than $399 a week. This didn’t interest me until he told me I could sell my 10 weeks back to Krystal in blocks of 5 weeks over a 2 year period for $3, 500 a year! WOW…what a no brainer in my mind! I could ‘invest’ $4, 900 today, have $7, 000 in 2 years and still have access to the $399 or less a week package!
When I questioned how they could do this and why, the salesman gave me a reasonable explanation. I even asked him what he would do (use the 10 weeks or sell them back to Krystal) and he said selling them back was the best deal. They had me!

Since selling my weeks back to Krystal was optional, I didn’t really expect to see anything in the sales contract. Ray Rubio, the Quality Assurance Manager, also explained how I could sell the weeks myself. That however wasn’t in my plan.

Reality hit me a few weeks later when Krystal gave me a ‘welcome’ call and didn’t ask about buying back my weeks. I contacted both Ray Rubio and the Quality Assurance department about buying back my weeks and both gave similar responses of “Krystal International does not handle the rental or resale of your weeks…. “ which doesn’t answer my question. They never denied that the salesman told me that Krystal would buy back my weeks, they just ignore the question!

I fought the charge with my credit card company but lost since nothing in the contract addresses Krystal buying back my 10 weeks and my 5 day cancellation period was long past. Since I lost that private battle, I have decided to go public and warn others of this scam!

BEWARE! DO NOT FALL FOR THIS SCAM WITH KRYSTAL! DO NOT BELIEVE WHAT THE SALESMEN SAY UNLESS IT IS TYPED IN THE CONTRACT! IF IT IS NOT TYPED IN THE CONTRACT, KRYSTAL WILL NOT HONOR WHAT WAS TOLD TO YOU DURING THE SALES PRESENTATION!

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Mar 07, 2020 11:25 am EST
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Just created a Facebook page to address the Krystal Scam. "Krystal Resorts Cancun Time share SCAM"

This group is to target Krystal Resorts only and no other resorts or parties that may be involved.

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Jan 30, 2020 2:42 am EST
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On the morning of December 12 2017, my wife Nancy and I (Ron) where pressured into attending a time share sales pitch at Krystal Resort during our stay at same resort. Although we were impressed with what they had to offer, we had no financial means of getting into a contract. The high pressure sales team were truly friendly but also very good at giving you a high rate of info, and no time to think things out. We were convinced by our Krystal sales person and his supervisor, that the financial burden of a time share could be alleviated, if we bought into the shares as an investment opportunity. If we bought the 17 weeks (13 weeks plus 4 bonus weeks) we would be guaranteed a projected annual average of 200% of bi-annual maintenance fee. We were also told that the weeks would all be sold in a average of 2 to 3 years. As explained to us, the bonus for us would be that our shares, although not used by us would create an income that we could use to travel to other destinations using the ICE rewards program and RCI that we would be register for if we bought in. The cost to us in US funds that day was as follows: 2625.00 down payment (paid December [protected].00 financed on monthly payments (186.18 a month till 01/01/23) ______________________ 10 500.00 Purchase price

1 189.00 Administrative registration fee (paid December 12 2017) ______________________ 11 689.00 Total charge and Finance, billed by Krystal for purchase of above mentioned 17 weeks. 840.07 Maintenance fee for first year (billed bi-annually with increased cost every year "862.76 for 2019" for the 17 weeks when used) 862.07 X 17 = 14 655.19 total cost of ownership once all 17 weeks are used and/or sold 11 689.00 + 14 655.19= $26 344.19 (plus interest and increased maintenance cost year over year)

As explained by sales staff at Krystal, using the 200% average above maintenance fee promised the financial gain was : 200% of 840.07 = 1680.14 X 17 weeks = $28 562.38 28 562.38 - 26 344.19 = $2 218.19 profit. This $2 218.19 profit would likely cover interest and maintenance fee increase if our time shares were all sold in the 2-3 years promised. The gain for us would be discount travel through RCI and ICE rewards program included in our Krystal International Vacation Club membership.

3 years later, none of our shares where ever sold, We have never found a vacation through ICE rewards that we could not easily find for much cheaper on most travel web sites, and we have no interest returning to Krystal to use the shares we never wanted in the first place after being lied to and defrauded..

If you are caught up in this scam... Your credit card can cancel and reverse the charge as long as you are within 90 days of purchase. Trust us... This is now your best option.

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VianneyC
Santa Clara, US
Aug 15, 2013 1:08 pm EDT

Timeshare scams are HUGE problem in Mexico. We purchased a Royal Elite Timeshare last year. We were promised all kinds of opportunity, while they kept serving us cold Coronas. Between HSI, RCI, and Royal Elite it seems that this is all a scam. We initially made three payments of $800, and now after Royal Elite has made a mistake with their collections back in the end of 2008, Monterey Financial has been threatening to send me to court to recover the unpaid portion ever since. Royal Elite is almost impossible to contact. This has become a huge pain, and a troubling financial burden. These are more complaints made on the Royal Elite timeshare resorts:

http://www.timesharescam.com/timeshare-complaints-resorts-black-list/6-royal-elite-sandos-timeshare-complaints/

We will not go down without a fight. We are working now with PROFECO and will continue to haunt them

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Krystal International Vacation Club [KIVC] Krystal Do Not Buy

This is Erika Andrejka claming for all the depression and many sleepless night, hearting us and giving many arguments, anger, and pain between my husband and I. Not having our money what we saved over many-many years with very hard work.

On July 2008 our family went to visit Cancun Mexico. Soon we arrived at the airport we got approached by people working for NH Krystal Vacation Resort pleasing us to go to the resort for a special presentation takes about 90min. They offered us free transportation back to the airport, what is never happened, free breakfast, and some free tours. We take the offer.

On July 15th 2008 we went to the presentation, we got our free breakfast, then we were then led to the second floor. We sat down with Steve Levi sales manager. He ask us if we have timeshare. We told him yes we have, and we are not interested to buy another one.

Mr. Levy told us this is NOT A TIME SHARE, what they offered us was a very good investment deal and a free membership to a company called ICE and to the New Krystal Vacation Resort what they building next door. They showed us a halfway finished building, what is suppose to be the NEW NH KRYSTAL.

Mr. Levy explained to us, this investment will give us a nice rate of return within 5 years. We can make a lot of money out of this, because is close to Downtown, to all the night club’s and to the Convention Center. He told us is very easy to rent it out, for almost $1700 a week. Also they gave us a bonus coupon from [protected]. But they make us promise the first two year we are not going to use it at NH Krystal.

Mr. Levy told us around Jan 2009 we will be receiving the 1st check around January 2009 and the money will keep coming for the next 5 years. He told us the retune will be around $720000.00, but can go much higher the amount. Mr. Levy said they do not going to cut a check larger than 10, 000 because of tax reason. We do not have to do anything because they will take care of the rentals for us.

Mr. Levy called Don Mayor from Vacation Strategies who lives in Orlando Florida, to talk to us because he will be taking care of the rentals. He want to hear us verbally and give promise that we will not be using or renting this investment, at least two years.

It was to good to be true how much money we can make from this investment, Now I know and see that many people was mislead at the same time and others before me.

Erika Andrejka.

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Milwaukee, US
Jul 10, 2009 8:39 pm EDT

Krystal Scam!

Please be aware that NH Krystal is scamming US and Canadian Citizens and you could be the next victim. if you want to know a bit more on how they work their deceitful sales practices, log into www.NhKrystalFraud.com

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Matt Preston
Flushing, US
Jun 29, 2009 12:12 pm EDT

While in Cancun we were invited to a 90 minunte timeshare speech. The salesman tour us that if we bought, he would help us renting the week because NH Krystal is very close to the convention center. He assured us there were lots of people looking to rent weeks at Krystal because of the proximity to this place.

Dumb enough, we believe him. Six months after, we were still waiting for this rental income. We called him several times asking him what was going on until he decided not to take our calls anymore. We searched the internet just to find out that everything we were told was a total lie. We went back to Cancun to cancel and they tried to sell us more! It was unbelievable.

On the way back to the airport, we found an ad of a law firm specialized in timeshare matters. We contact them and they help us cancel and recover our earnest money.

Please be aware that if you go to a timeshare presentation in Mexico these salesmen will try anything to get you to buy their product. Timeshares are worthless!

If this advice is too late for you, contact www.GonzalezGonzalezLawFirm.com, they will help you cancel. Once they see that you have legal assistance on your side they will give you the respect we all deserve.

Matt Preston

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Krystal International Vacation Club [KIVC] Resale/Weeks

In 2004 my wife and I purchased a twenty five year commitment with the KIVC - Cancun. We were sold on the ease of renting the weeks that we were not going to use. After returning to the states we contacted one of the resellers that was provided to us by the Krystal sales reps. Needless to say we paid a fee for their so called sevices, but to this day we have never been able to resell one week. This is a bad idea for anyone that thought they could resell a couple of weeks and use some of the other weeks. If you are not planning on using the weeks stay away. This place is not a hotel, but a boiler room for timeshare scams. I know that I may be hurting the value of the remaining time I have left with them, but if it saves one family the heart ache that my family and I have gone through, then so be it. Twenty years to go and still feeling the sting of the purchase. STAY AWAY!

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Krystal Scam!

Please be aware that NH Krystal is scamming US and Canadian Citizens and you could be the next victim. if you want to know a bit more on how they work their deceitful sales practices, log into www.NhKrystalFraud.com

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Matt Preston
Flushing, US
Jun 29, 2009 12:17 pm EDT

While in Cancun we were invited to a 90 minunte timeshare speech. The salesman tour us that if we bought, he would help us renting the week because NH Krystal is very close to the convention center. He assured us there were lots of people looking to rent weeks at Krystal because of the proximity to this place.

Dumb enough, we believe him. Six months after, we were still waiting for this rental income. We called him several times asking him what was going on until he decided not to take our calls anymore. We searched the internet just to find out that everything we were told was a total lie. We went back to Cancun to cancel and they tried to sell us more! It was unbelievable.

On the way back to the airport, we found an ad of a law firm specialized in timeshare matters. We contact them and they help us cancel and recover our earnest money.

Please be aware that if you go to a timeshare presentation in Mexico these salesmen will try anything to get you to buy their product. Timeshares are worthless!

If this advice is too late for you, contact www.GonzalezGonzalezLawFirm.com, they will help you cancel. Once they see that you have legal assistance on your side they will give you the respect we all deserve.

Matt Preston

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