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Bethea Jenner and Rochelle Gordon send out fake astrology predictions and pretend to be psychics. They give people false hope, take their credit card details then keep taking money out of their accounts. It's unfair and immoral.
I've been on this board for several weeks now, looking at all the complaints, posting my email address and customer service number in the U.S., AND emailing people who have complained.
Some people have got in touch with my customer service, and I have duly addressed their concerns. Thank you for that.
However, many people simply continue to post on this board without getting in touch with my customer service. This leads me to believe that they are not interested in having their problem taken care of. Perhaps they don't really have a problem at all, and simply want to exhibit their vindictive and mean personality.
It's a true saying that you cannot please everyone, and equally true that "you're damned if you, do and damned if you don't".
I have already posted hundreds of genuine comments from customers who have been helped by my services and products. But of course, the cynics here have said they are false testimonials. This is a lie and I urge readers of goodwill not to be taken in by the cynics.
I have posted my customer service details, email address bejenner@betheajenner.com and U.S. telephone number at which you can leave me a message - 203.825.3199. But only a handful of you have gotten in touch. And each week the posts about me on this board grow.
It doesn't matter to me if these posts are the work of 1 person or 10 persons. What matters is that I have given ample opportunity for your grievances to be addressed. I will refund purchases, re-ship purchases, cancel orders, what-have- you.
But I can only help people who contact my customer service.
Posting on these boards will not help you get a refund, although I am grateful to the few of you who have contacted me.
Once again, I can be reached via email at bejenner@betheajenner.com, or via the post at the address below.
If you wish to contact me via telephone in the U.S. Please call 203.825.3199, leave a message, and ask for my assistants.
Many thanks and I look forward to hearing from you.
Bethea Jenner
167 Cherry Street
PMB 292
Milford, CT 06460
Thanks for all the posts. We would also like to thank customers who have brought our attention to the trouble they have had with their purchases. We try and resolve all customer service issues promptly. To expedite the process please also email bejenner@betheajenner with details of your purchases and we'll try and respond as soon as possible. Thank you and we apologize for any inconvenience caused.
Many of you have posted your customer service queries on this board. We would like to thank you for this opportunity to respond and look into every complaint. Please note the quickest ways to get in touch with us:
It is difficult to read such defamatory remarks about myself and my friend and former colleague Rochelle Gordon. I doubt that my comment is going to change the minds of those who have shared their thoughts above. However, as so many negative points, including false information, have been listed here, I feel compelled to clarify and defend both the astrological content of my free forecasts and the products I offer.
First, I want to say that I thoroughly believe in the power that astrology plays in our lives, both in its ability to provide understanding of events and personalities around us and its usage to tackle certain challenges we face. I strive to convey that understanding in my forecasts and hope that my forecasts provide support and inspiration to those who request them.
I myself do believe in the ability of talismans and spiritual tools to make life better, richer and safer, and for this reason, I send messages to introduce new products to the subscribers of my Health, Wealth and Happiness forecasts. However, I don’t want anyone to feel obligated in any way to respond to my offers, and more importantly, these offers should never feel like a burden. And when purchasing any talisman or spiritual tool, it is important to request only the products that you yourself believe have something real and meaningful to offer you.
I stand by my refund policy and if you have any questions, returns or refunds to address, you can do so at the following address.
Bethea Jenner
167 Cherry Street
PMB 292
Milford, CT 06460
It is difficult to read such defamatory remarks about myself. I doubt that my comment is going to change the minds of those who have shared their thoughts above. However, as so many negative points, including false information, have been listed here, I feel compelled to clarify and defend both the astrological content of my free forecasts and the products I offer.
First, I want to say that I thoroughly believe in the power that astrology plays in our lives, both in its ability to provide understanding of events and personalities around us and its usage to tackle certain challenges we face. I strive to convey that understanding in my forecasts and hope that my forecasts provide support and inspiration to those who request them.
I myself do believe in the ability of talismans and spiritual tools to make life better, richer and safer, and for this reason, I send messages to introduce new products to the subscribers of my Health, Wealth and Happiness forecasts. However, I don’t want anyone to feel obligated in any way to respond to my offers, and more importantly, these offers should never feel like a burden. And when purchasing any talisman or spiritual tool, it is important to request only the products that you yourself believe have something real and meaningful to offer you.
I stand by my refund policy and if you have any questions, returns or refunds to address, you can do so at the following address.You may also call my Customer Care at 1-203-672-0089 they are available Monday thru Friday from 8:00 am to 5:30 pm ET. You are also welcome to send an email to bethea@myhealthwealthandhappiness.com.
Bethea Jenner
167 Cherry Street
PMB 292
Milford, CT 06460
Many people simply continue to post on this board without getting in touch with my customer service. This leads me to believe that they are not interested in having their problem taken care of.
Posting on these boards will not help you get your issue resolved. I would be happy to help you with your claim as soon as I have the adequate information.
I can be reached via email at bejenner@betheajenner.com, or via the post at the address below.
If you wish to contact me via telephone in the U.S. please call me toll free at 888.548.0848 or 203.672.0089.
Many thanks and I look forward to hearing from you.
Bethea Jenner
167 Cherry Street
PMB 292
Milford, CT 06460
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Here is what I will say to Miss Bethea, God does not want me to judge others so I will not yet What I will do is pray for you for god himself will judge you, so if you are seeking out to scam people you already know that it will not shine kind on you to continue, now make no mistake I do understand that we all have to make money some way but to use god and his wonderful angles in what you call a medallion or a spiritual pendant is false when I worship or need to have a belief I turn to my god and his son jesus . I respectfully tell you that he has stood by me through and through and has showed me with out such pendants to wear that he is with me, I testify to this 100%, I have faith in God and with faith I know he will be here for me. Im sorry that you have to go through such extreme ways to make money, again may god bless you and keep you safe.
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Claude Raymond
, CA
1 comments
Claude Raymond
of CA
Nov 12, 20149:25 pm EST
Great day to you Bethea. I know that your are reading this as you been reading all the others comments. I am seriously disappointed with the way you treat your costumers, We are the one that provide you with your luxurious live stile. Without us (the poor pigeons), you and your employees are nothing. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW ANYONE WILL CHOOSE JAIL OVER GOOD BUSINESS. Do good business by sending the goods people pay for or rot in jail for been a thief. I profoundly hate scavengers, I wish that all the scavengers on the planet will burn in HELL for eternity, AMEN
Claude Raymond
Ontario, Canada.
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Gage=W
fuck this, US
1 comments
Gage=W
of fuck this, US
Jul 28, 20147:15 pm EDT
YAH FAKE SOMEONE IS MAILING ME DICK ENLARGMENT PILLS!
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Firehorse
Tucson, US
1 comments
Firehorse
of Tucson, US
Feb 27, 20149:39 am EST
I have been ripped of by Bethea the ###. I was over charged for something I did not order. I'm looking forward to her demise. She crossed the wrong person this time.
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goldngunsbuyer
Middletown, US
1 comments
goldngunsbuyer
of Middletown, US
Jan 25, 20148:40 am EST
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I almost ordered from this scam artist. I want to thank everyone for posting their comments and exposing this piece of S#!T. After I read everything about her, I created a dummy email account...and guess what?! I got the same predictions! All she does is copy and paste. And just so everyone knows, I am a jeweler by trade...The pendants and bracelets are MAYBE worth about $10 bucks. That's it! I was more interested in the books and knew in my heart that something was wrong when she was charging so much for cheap pieces.
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BETHEA AND OTHERS LIKE HER
Long Beach, US
3 comments
BETHEA AND OTHERS LIKE HER
of Long Beach, US
Jul 01, 20131:12 pm EDT
any person or organization charging money for spiritual "miracles, money, or luck IS A SCAM! True psychics and seers DO NOT ASK FOR NOR REQUIRE MONEY TO DO GOD'S WORK. just use common sense.Bethea sounds fake from 30 miles away. As soon as I got her unexpected e-mail I came right to this sight. She got my e-mail address from other sites I'm registered on, and that"s probably how she gets them all.Just be aware of false prophets.
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BETHEA AND OTHERS LIKE HER
Long Beach, US
3 comments
BETHEA AND OTHERS LIKE HER
of Long Beach, US
Jul 01, 20131:03 pm EDT
Anyone or any organization that charges for "spiritual" enlightenment of any kind IS A SCAM! GOD AND HIS MIRACLES ARE FREE
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christmaskitty
, US
1 comments
christmaskitty
of US
Dec 26, 201210:13 am EST
I ordered a necklace from her, didn't come with instructions but, I like the nine stones, I've been trying to e-mail her to make my final payment..she wont answer my e-mails. I decided to stop receiving her e-mail because all she ever wanted me to do was buy this or that. If she is supposed to be physic she should know that I don't have money to spend like that.
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tezb
Coolangatta, AU
1 comments
tezb
of Coolangatta, AU
Nov 10, 20128:41 pm EST
I have received many emails from Bethea myself but have never fallen for her scams. She does make them sound credible though as many of us, me included, are doing it tough. I would advise anyone who buys anything at all online to open a visa account with a bank & just keep a minimum amount of money, the amount you want to spend perhaps, in that account. Then when you want to buy something use that account. Just keep the amount you wish to spend in it at any one time & you won't get caught with people taking out more than they should. I have been doing this for years & it works.
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lynntori
, US
1 comments
lynntori
of US
Oct 24, 20126:36 am EDT
where did bethea go I worked with her for 4 years then one day never heard from again I have sent email after emails I guess she stop responding because I have not bought any thing from her and after reading the complaints my be she is in jail for fraud
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crocdundee
, US
2 comments
crocdundee
of US
Jun 19, 20121:48 pm EDT
One more thing...Bethea gives a bit of mental therapy to individuals and then she should be awarded for at least that. We all should get paid for our services, right? When I get money and a job, I will reward her as needed. No one does things for free anymore, and maybe that is another question or issue, but Bethea has been right to me, as for her partner, I know nothing of her and couldn't tell you anything. She has not been my friend and confidant, so i do not know her. She has written to me a few times years ago and there was nothing there. I even wrote to her personally. Try understanding business and therapy and entertainment. We all have to pay, one way or another.. David/crocdundee
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crocdundee
, US
2 comments
crocdundee
of US
Jun 19, 20121:42 pm EDT
I have read many of the complaints and I do know that business is business. I use to go to a real psychic who would not take any money. She said if any so called psychic ask for money, then watch out. I had a friend who was a so called psychic and money was an issue. They have a school for that. Yet Bethea, is an astrologer not a real psychic. I had been out of work for 4 years now and she doesn't charge me a dime, as she started charging clients just for a weekly memo. She answers my questions and I do know the selling of the stuff from gateway is a scam of its own, but Bethea is not a real scam. She is a astrologer and that is what an astrologer does and says. Maybe entertainment, but she has been there with me for years now, maybe 6 years or so? I consider her a friend even if she is not. I haven't purchased a thing for about 2 years or more now and she still sends me my weekly statement and writes to me about personal stuff that is between her and I. She deserves much better than the notes on this wall. David from Hawaii...
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Melisha Nuku
, NZ
1 comments
Melisha Nuku
of NZ
Jun 05, 201212:22 am EDT
i did buy a bracelet off bethea and i emailed her for over a month because I had not received it. I finally received it but I do not know weather it was because of me living in n.z or weather it was just them sending it late. I do have to say when I received the necklace and earrings with the feng shui charms I was winning Jackpots. It mite b just me with luck or they really do work. For those people that it has not worked onIi am sorry for yr loss. But those that have won congratulations. If she did not email me and tell me about my life that no one but my family knew I would not have taken her for real. I never buy anything off her any more and its been 2 years.
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tazdvl0713
Ottawa, CA
1 comments
tazdvl0713
of Ottawa, CA
Mar 13, 20125:47 am EDT
What I do not understand is why has no one contacted the Police to have her charged with Fraud. That would seem as the logical thing to do. If she is charging amounts to your credit card without your permission or not sending you the item you purchased. This is more of a Criminal matter, besides if you cannot get your money back then at least you can receive some satisfaction with this mess...
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Kittykat101
, US
1 comments
Kittykat101
of US
Dec 23, 20117:13 pm EST
what a scam! it was REALLY creepy when it (he? she? watever "it" is) addressed me "Katie, my friend" i accidentally told them to send me emails, "you were born to be rich" was one of them. oh please, yeah right! this is so bogus! the products sound cool but they are crazy overpriced anyway. i unsubscribed right away. dont fall for it!
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owl907
Anchor Point, US
1 comments
owl907
of Anchor Point, US
Nov 09, 20114:39 pm EST
so tell me oh great one why in this world are people wanting to be sheep and be lead astray
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Janek
Newury, GB
1 comments
Janek
of Newury, GB
May 03, 20112:58 pm EDT
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I have been getting emails for several years from Bethea but never purchased anything. Funnily enough some of the things in her emails seemed feesable but I continue to keep an open mind. Anyway, suddenly the emails have stopped and I dont know why - is it because I have never purchased anything or has the police finally caught them fraud I wonder.
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Honey007rmsas
, IN
2 comments
Honey007rmsas
of IN
Apr 29, 20115:36 am EDT
Thank God i didn't fall into her trap - almost did though. I too know someone who got scammed by Bethea so won't visit her site again. The testimonials are probably posted by her team so beware of anyone that praises her online.
But GOOD NEWS is that I found some genuine people online too. You can visit www.astroved.com - yes you may not understand their south indian style lingo or gods - But I got a few rituals done through them and they send the genuine stuff home. I even oprdered a few products - the wait was long due to distance but the stuff was genuine and my altar has a positive energy around it now.
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Victoria Bird
Evans, US
1 comments
Victoria Bird
of Evans, US
Mar 29, 20114:55 pm EDT
I have ordered to different types of things for luck the first was a deck of golden cards that I thought did nothing for me and I did everything that I was supposed to do with them I did send them back and hopefully got a full refund but kept getting more cards and having to cancel and send them back. I then ordered the cross of some kind and a braclet also they to me did not help me at all, maybe I just don't have the right attitude towards it all. I received your email about the archangel Michael and it sounds good but again I have doubts and don't want to waste my hard earned money. I believe in angels and am a christian but am just not sure about everything you say. I have been trying and trying to get some luck and win a large amount of money because of our financial problems I would like to win it mostly for my husband who works so hard and needs a chance to retire and enjoy the rest of his life. I guess I'm just very spectical. gma
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lv4lyf
Modesto, US
1 comments
lv4lyf
of Modesto, US
Feb 23, 20119:09 pm EST
What I do when I receive an unsolicited email from a supposed psychic astrologer/medium is; hit reply, and ask them a question about me that only someone that is truly gifted could possibly know. As you have probably already guessed, I have yet to hear back from ANY of them, but then again it was worth it because I no longer receive the bogus emails.
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Rosa Bae
, IN
1 comments
Rosa Bae
of IN
Oct 27, 20108:59 am EDT
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I bought something from bethea 3 years back. They didn't dispatch it until I had to send a rude mail asking if they are yet to parcel my goods via bullock carts. But they sent an email saying they will check if it's done or not. I did receive the product 2 weeks later. They did not do anything malicious with my credit card. But your sad testimonials got me worried.
But I did suffer a loss of around 350 USD through another company - Siteground hosting that hosts websites. Although I wouldn't blame them but their description and billing page was so confusing or evasive that I was led into believing I am about to be charged for the first installment - 5 USD but to my horror the next confirmation page showed they charged 350 USD. I still have to return that much money to my family. It has been so embarrassing that I just kicked that website and could not use their domain and [censor].
I was left with no money so I could not create any more websites but have been living with a sorry face ever since. This is my Ex-site by the way - www.hope-heals.net.
[censor]. sorry im angry.
I dont think I could handle another financial attack from madam bethea. I feel she is ok, probably her staff is lazy.
Thx for letting me vent.
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Malia
Ithaca, US
1 comments
Malia
of Ithaca, US
Oct 24, 20107:03 pm EDT
Hi there.
People who need people are the luckiest people on earth. I agreed some of the posting here. God is the only pychic you need in your life. I believed in prayer because it happened to me. So people put God first in your and you wont need psychic scam.
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PETALS19
Crawley, GB
1 comments
PETALS19
of Crawley, GB
Sep 20, 201010:10 am EDT
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I wonder if this is the same Bethea i am waiting for a Bracelet that has never arrived (PURCHASED IT ON THE 17TH AUGUST)each time i ask her about it there IS A SILENCE NO RESPONSE SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ABOUT IT. IF SHE CLAIMS SHE IS AN HONEST PERSON SHE SHOULD RESPOND TO A PROBLEM IN A PROFESSIONAL MANNER
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margaretha
, US
1 comments
margaretha
of US
Jul 31, 201012:07 am EDT
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I to am not believing this . I ordered a cross bell from betha on the 19th of july, with the promise to pay after 30 days after recieving it. well i have not recieved it. and I definitely dont want it after i seen these reviews, IT IS THE 30TH OF JULY. I cannot believe that someone would give such false info to people who are depressed and down on their luck. I am foolish to believe in this anyway with my faith in God! Do not seek psycics, fortunetellers, mediums, astrologers, witchcrafters, or wizards! THEY ARE FALSE AND ARE THE DEVILS LIARS! ALL WILL HAVE TO FACE GOD, AND BE BOUND IN THE PITS OF HELL!
Sincerely,
Margaretha Kelley
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AER
Los Angeles, US
1 comments
AER
of Los Angeles, US
Jun 18, 201012:21 pm EDT
I personally had a very nice experience with Bethea Jenner / Rochele Gordon (My Health & Wealth). When I had problem with product, I did not receive any refund by sending emails, however I contacted their service center (given tel number) and spoke with a lady in person, and they actually send me the refund check in mail. It was handled very professionally, and I had a very nice experience with them.
In other notes, Bethea / Rochelle can provide you with tools, however it is up to you if you can make it work or not. Have you heard of 'the law of attraction'? If you think negarively, it would attract the negative energy. If you think positively, it would really attract the positive energy. There is no guarantee if products works or not, but we are the one to make it work... don't you think? So far, I am attracting positive energies! Thank you very much, Bethea / Rochelle. AER
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marie
Palm Beach Gardens, US
1 comments
marie
of Palm Beach Gardens, US
May 10, 201011:49 am EDT
I was suckered in but I only spent no more than $13 something and immediately I canceled by visa card in case of future charges...what a relief. I have never had an major issue with these astrologers-it is the curiosity that gets me to purchase.
For your information, some claim to be astrologers and they are not, they use a software program that spit out exactly what the customer needs to hear and that is it. These fake astrologer give a bad name to others that truly want to help.
The best astrologers are the one you can see eye to eye and can be very expensive but accurate.
Someone needs to stop this person "Bethea" seriously. She is lucky I do not live near her...
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greeneyes35
Lexington, US
3 comments
greeneyes35
of Lexington, US
Apr 16, 20103:22 pm EDT
Sorry about my last post. Mistake.
Why is this lady still in business? With all of the complaints that I have saw on websites about her, I am suprise that nothing has not been done about her yet. She needs to be made to pay people their money back, including pain and suffering right along with putting her out of business for GOOD!.
She think that she is really winning now, but people who do other people like this will sooner or later get theres. It is an old saying that "what goes around comes around"...
Bethea Jenner IS a liar and a fraud. Physic? CERTAINLY NOT. I'm not buying her crap and lies. I hope they ban her from the internet permanently and throw her jail.
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Hearliesthetruth
Cleveland, US
1 comments
Hearliesthetruth
of Cleveland, US
Dec 23, 20095:47 am EST
I've been recieving messages from Bertha and Rochelle for almost 4 years now. I will say if for nothing else they're consistent. We live in a world of dreamer and with great expectations. We all know if it sounds too good to be true then it probably is. I receive daily sweepstakes winnings and they always want me to send in registration fees. The psychics are no different. When you are in search of hope it's easy to be mislead. If you say what people want to hear they will follow you off a cliff. As a novice writer I could get you to send me $5.53 to tell you that you need to hear more of what goes on in my mind. Out of the millions of people who search for hope on the internet. A few will respond. It's just that simple. blanebrittbroke@yahoo.com
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sincerely not
Clinton, US
1 comments
sincerely not
of Clinton, US
Nov 05, 200911:13 am EST
I chose to reply to Bethea's offer. Here's what I replied.
Dear Bethea,
Thank you for the personal email you sent telling me how I will become wealthy and happy using your "Medallion of Hope" along with the other symbols. It's sounds like I can't lose using your medallion. I have a proposition for you that you would be crazy to turn down. Send me the medallion and all the other symbols free of charge including free shipping and what ever money I make after receiving the medallion I will personally give you 25% of the total. So if I should make a million dollars you will receive $250, 000.00. Not bad for the cost of the medallion wouldn't you agree? Plus the total money received could even be larger if what you have told me is true. I know I can trust you and you know you can trust me so why don't we make some money for each other. What do we got to lose? Knowing me the way you do and what my future holds for me amassing a great fortune by using the medallion I would think it would be a no brainer for you to agree to my proposal unless what you have told me is not true. All you have to do is send me the medallion along with the other symbols free of charge and we can both share in my wealth and happiness. If you would like this agreement to be more binding we can have our lawyers draw up the contracts. I don't think that will be necessary do you? I know you have my best interest at heart and I yours. Once I have received the medallion and the other symbols I will contact you and let you know how much money we are both making. I'm looking forward to my 365 day lucky streak, my life changing forever, and our lucrative partnership. If by chance I don't hear from you regarding my generous proposition I'll assume you chose not to accept my proposal and were actually trying to take advantage of me for your own personal gain. If that's the case please do not contact me ever again. I hope this is not the case and you will accept my proposal. The sooner I have the medallion the sooner we can both start to make money. Hope to hear from you soon Bethea. I'm so excited. How about you?
Sincerely,
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No1's Fool26
Miami Shores, US
11 comments
No1's Fool26
of Miami Shores, US
Oct 06, 20095:27 pm EDT
I am a little different from you guys, I've also subscribe to Bethea for her free reading but as soon as I accepted my free reading she immediately asked for money... I didn't fall for her ###, I knew she was a con artist... Her reading stated that I have some money coming to me but I won't be able to recieve this gift unless I get her help which will run me about $50-$60 ... Yeah right! I believe if I have money coming to me I wouldn't need her help in collecting it... I would've NEVER sent her my credit card information or any money... A couple of years ago I sent $10 to this physic ( it wasn't bethea)and she kept using that same check to withdraw money from my account I promptly called the bank and stopped payment immediately it cost me $35 but it was worth it... Since then I've become very aware that people claiming to see into the future are Fakes! As soon as they request a payment from me I delet their emails... Bethea's horoscope aren't clear and she also include a special bracelet for $29.95 which is suppose to bring you wealth... ###! Bethea is a FRAUD! And so is Sara-Freder... I've never really had any contact with Rochelle but I'm very aware. Of bethea and I notice she responds to these post saying the same thing" please contact my customer service" yeah right! You probably would have a better chance in getting into contact with bethea if you are sending her more money... Bethea I hope you rot in hell where you belong
Wow! Cant believe she used the same check over and over. I goggled "Bertha" because I received two emails stating that money was coming my way but only If I purchased her gold dice...yeah okay, just like pigs fly! How the hell do they get away with this. Why should I give money first? Shouldn't they first prove they can actually do a reading correctly before money is exchanged?!
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Slimgoodie62
Dayton, US
1 comments
Slimgoodie62
of Dayton, US
Sep 13, 20091:50 am EDT
I sent my braclet back also, and I have a confirmation receipt, dated July 22, 2009. I have not received my refund.
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Guerrieri
Easton, US
1 comments
Guerrieri
of Easton, US
Jul 22, 20098:20 am EDT
As with many others, they seem to have the same M.O. They charged my credit card once, but I never received item. Even after several emails and telephone calls. Bethea is either a big scam rip-off (you think?) or the worst, most unorganized business woman ever!
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Sarah Phougat (Niku)
, IN
1 comments
Sarah Phougat (Niku)
of IN
Jul 09, 200911:59 pm EDT
hello this "Niku Phougat(Sarah) from INDIA i was about to buy thngs from bethea.i searched her address on google and i was so shckd aftr seeing the link "bethea jenna fraud".i thank you guys for writng ur experiences with her.
if u people really wnna need some help to cure problems of ur life thn plz contact "swetta jumaani" .she is the famous numerologist and lives in pune.i consulted her last year.her fess is 3759 rs only .and only one time charge. if any one wants details about her then u can contact me at heyynicks@yahoo.co.in or visit her website at www.jumaani.com
thnkx n lv u allllllll...
"NICKY"
9th July 2009
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kaytw
, GB
1 comments
kaytw
of GB
Jun 29, 20096:39 am EDT
Get your critical thinking heads on and note all the times when you have previously encountered seeming insurmountable problems. wasn't it that you happened upon your own solution or commandeered some help from someone you knew.
These outfits are basically a fomulaic business model based on exploiting people's uncertainties-and we are all uncertain about something in our lives everyday.
There is a good book 'soul mates' the author escapes me but in it the medium explains what you should expect from a genuine reading:
actual names, actual facts, actual events, dates etc.
I don't doubt these people have abilities, I just know that these abilities cannot be switched on to demand, like a machine. Same goes for for busy phone-line psychics or anybody doing it on a production line.
It's a special ability that does not perform to the daily grind. sometimes there, sometimes not. In Sarah Freders or Bethea Jenners case-often not- given the number of complaints.
I get these emails every day. Innitially I was slightly moved by them but I can see the same patterns in them over and over. Its a business model these people have developed.
Meditate, pray, seek wise counsel. That will tell you a lot x
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Cazza53
Hazelbrook, AU
1 comments
Cazza53
of Hazelbrook, AU
Jun 21, 20097:49 am EDT
I have been receiving my "Weekly Astrology Forecast" from Bethea Jenner for over 2 years now...it is a TOTAL LOAD OF RUBBISH. She can't even get the Latitude and Longtitude of my birth-place right! I've written twice now to ask that it be corrected...and you guessed it no answer! SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA is not exactly hard to find in any Atlas... I also get weekly "offers" from her, or her "dear friend..Bernard C. Bielerde Buhem", trying to entice me to buy their shoddy, wares.
I have been studying and practicing Astrology for over 25 years, I am also a Reiki Master/Teacher and a "Deep-Trance Chanel", so deep that I don't know what has been said through me until I hear it back on a tape recording, that has been implemented by a trusted member of the Meditiation Group that I have attended for the past 15 years.
I will do very comprehensive Astrology charts for those who request them, I DO NOT use a computer based programme to print out a load of drivel. I spend many hours, studying individual charts, the aspects and meanings, then and ONLY THEN do I put pen to paper, and write up to 40 foolscap pages for the individual concerned. Yes, I DO mean the good old-fashioned writing tablets with the blue lines on them, and a blue or black ball -point pen. Anything that REALLY shouts out at me I write in RED ball-point pen.
For this service I charge $40 Australian...which is a very fair price, I think, for the days of work involved.
I always warn people about computer generated charts...the person entering the information, be they "psychic" or not, are only human, and can, like the rest of us, enter a wrong word, letter or number. When doing a true Astrology chart one wrong number can make a HUGE difference to the outcome.
Lastly, if all of the tawdry "lucky" bits and pieces were so great, and REALLY worked Bethea, Rochelle and Bernard would all be so fabulously wealthy, that they could run a website GIVING AWAY all of their" bits and bobs", so that their "Dear Friend" on the other end of the email, would be able to access a piece of the "magick", become wealthy themselves, and PAY IT FORWARD!
Karma is a wonderful thing, it eventually jumps up and "bites" when one least expects it! So some of us may yet get to see the charlatans of the world receive the Karma that they offer to "protect" the rest of us from.
Love and light to all
Caz
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bin
Jersey City, US
1 comments
bin
of Jersey City, US
Jun 03, 20092:30 pm EDT
Where can I make a complaint about a Psychic reader who robbed me of my money --650$, promised to create a energised gold-silver ring, and doesnt give it now. She promised 6 sessions of consulting for which she gives excuses everytime and is now demanding more money. I think she is a complete hoax, she is based in new york city. Her name is Samantha Rees
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theskeptic
Passaic, US
1 comments
theskeptic
of Passaic, US
May 07, 200911:08 am EDT
I've read all of the posts. She's not scamming, she's just in business to make money. Maybe she just has a very error-prone system of charging credut cards.
The posts that say that her necklace didn't bring luck or didn't work made me laugh. Thanks! Of course they didn't work. There aren't psychics that work and psychics that don't work. They all don't work.
Believe in yourself. Not psychics, biorythms, tarot readings, or even deities.
There has never been a study that has shown any of it to actually work!
Of course some of you may know in your hearts that it works or know someone that had an experience or saw a show, read something, heard something, etc.
Look a little deeper and you'll find that anyone promoting this stuff is either in it for the money or in it for control or both.
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Paulette
Pasadena, US
2 comments
Paulette
of Pasadena, US
Apr 06, 20093:58 pm EDT
I have read everyone complaints. I wanted to tell everyone do not order by credit card, and on her official website there is a link to order by mail without using a credit card. I do suggest order by mail without using a credit or ATM debit, only by check this way you can ask your bank to place the check on hold, especially since there are of scams and I have read on different sites people have been trying to get a refund. I have never order any readings or products from Bethea Jenner.
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Here is what I will say to Miss Bethea, God does not want me to judge others so I will not yet What I will do is pray for you for god himself will judge you, so if you are seeking out to scam people you already know that it will not shine kind on you to continue, now make no mistake I do understand that we all have to make money some way but to use god and his wonderful angles in what you call a medallion or a spiritual pendant is false when I worship or need to have a belief I turn to my god and his son jesus . I respectfully tell you that he has stood by me through and through and has showed me with out such pendants to wear that he is with me, I testify to this 100%, I have faith in God and with faith I know he will be here for me. Im sorry that you have to go through such extreme ways to make money, again may god bless you and keep you safe.
Great day to you Bethea. I know that your are reading this as you been reading all the others comments. I am seriously disappointed with the way you treat your costumers, We are the one that provide you with your luxurious live stile. Without us (the poor pigeons), you and your employees are nothing. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW ANYONE WILL CHOOSE JAIL OVER GOOD BUSINESS. Do good business by sending the goods people pay for or rot in jail for been a thief. I profoundly hate scavengers, I wish that all the scavengers on the planet will burn in HELL for eternity, AMEN
Claude Raymond
Ontario, Canada.
YAH FAKE SOMEONE IS MAILING ME DICK ENLARGMENT PILLS!
I have been ripped of by Bethea the ###. I was over charged for something I did not order. I'm looking forward to her demise. She crossed the wrong person this time.
I almost ordered from this scam artist. I want to thank everyone for posting their comments and exposing this piece of S#!T. After I read everything about her, I created a dummy email account...and guess what?! I got the same predictions! All she does is copy and paste. And just so everyone knows, I am a jeweler by trade...The pendants and bracelets are MAYBE worth about $10 bucks. That's it! I was more interested in the books and knew in my heart that something was wrong when she was charging so much for cheap pieces.
any person or organization charging money for spiritual "miracles, money, or luck IS A SCAM! True psychics and seers DO NOT ASK FOR NOR REQUIRE MONEY TO DO GOD'S WORK. just use common sense.Bethea sounds fake from 30 miles away. As soon as I got her unexpected e-mail I came right to this sight. She got my e-mail address from other sites I'm registered on, and that"s probably how she gets them all.Just be aware of false prophets.
Anyone or any organization that charges for "spiritual" enlightenment of any kind IS A SCAM! GOD AND HIS MIRACLES ARE FREE
I ordered a necklace from her, didn't come with instructions but, I like the nine stones, I've been trying to e-mail her to make my final payment..she wont answer my e-mails. I decided to stop receiving her e-mail because all she ever wanted me to do was buy this or that. If she is supposed to be physic she should know that I don't have money to spend like that.
I have received many emails from Bethea myself but have never fallen for her scams. She does make them sound credible though as many of us, me included, are doing it tough. I would advise anyone who buys anything at all online to open a visa account with a bank & just keep a minimum amount of money, the amount you want to spend perhaps, in that account. Then when you want to buy something use that account. Just keep the amount you wish to spend in it at any one time & you won't get caught with people taking out more than they should. I have been doing this for years & it works.
where did bethea go I worked with her for 4 years then one day never heard from again I have sent email after emails I guess she stop responding because I have not bought any thing from her and after reading the complaints my be she is in jail for fraud
One more thing...Bethea gives a bit of mental therapy to individuals and then she should be awarded for at least that. We all should get paid for our services, right? When I get money and a job, I will reward her as needed. No one does things for free anymore, and maybe that is another question or issue, but Bethea has been right to me, as for her partner, I know nothing of her and couldn't tell you anything. She has not been my friend and confidant, so i do not know her. She has written to me a few times years ago and there was nothing there. I even wrote to her personally. Try understanding business and therapy and entertainment. We all have to pay, one way or another.. David/crocdundee
I have read many of the complaints and I do know that business is business. I use to go to a real psychic who would not take any money. She said if any so called psychic ask for money, then watch out. I had a friend who was a so called psychic and money was an issue. They have a school for that. Yet Bethea, is an astrologer not a real psychic. I had been out of work for 4 years now and she doesn't charge me a dime, as she started charging clients just for a weekly memo. She answers my questions and I do know the selling of the stuff from gateway is a scam of its own, but Bethea is not a real scam. She is a astrologer and that is what an astrologer does and says. Maybe entertainment, but she has been there with me for years now, maybe 6 years or so? I consider her a friend even if she is not. I haven't purchased a thing for about 2 years or more now and she still sends me my weekly statement and writes to me about personal stuff that is between her and I. She deserves much better than the notes on this wall. David from Hawaii...
i did buy a bracelet off bethea and i emailed her for over a month because I had not received it. I finally received it but I do not know weather it was because of me living in n.z or weather it was just them sending it late. I do have to say when I received the necklace and earrings with the feng shui charms I was winning Jackpots. It mite b just me with luck or they really do work. For those people that it has not worked onIi am sorry for yr loss. But those that have won congratulations. If she did not email me and tell me about my life that no one but my family knew I would not have taken her for real. I never buy anything off her any more and its been 2 years.
What I do not understand is why has no one contacted the Police to have her charged with Fraud. That would seem as the logical thing to do. If she is charging amounts to your credit card without your permission or not sending you the item you purchased. This is more of a Criminal matter, besides if you cannot get your money back then at least you can receive some satisfaction with this mess...
what a scam! it was REALLY creepy when it (he? she? watever "it" is) addressed me "Katie, my friend" i accidentally told them to send me emails, "you were born to be rich" was one of them. oh please, yeah right! this is so bogus! the products sound cool but they are crazy overpriced anyway. i unsubscribed right away. dont fall for it!
so tell me oh great one why in this world are people wanting to be sheep and be lead astray
I have been getting emails for several years from Bethea but never purchased anything. Funnily enough some of the things in her emails seemed feesable but I continue to keep an open mind. Anyway, suddenly the emails have stopped and I dont know why - is it because I have never purchased anything or has the police finally caught them fraud I wonder.
Thank God i didn't fall into her trap - almost did though. I too know someone who got scammed by Bethea so won't visit her site again. The testimonials are probably posted by her team so beware of anyone that praises her online.
But GOOD NEWS is that I found some genuine people online too. You can visit www.astroved.com - yes you may not understand their south indian style lingo or gods - But I got a few rituals done through them and they send the genuine stuff home. I even oprdered a few products - the wait was long due to distance but the stuff was genuine and my altar has a positive energy around it now.
I have ordered to different types of things for luck the first was a deck of golden cards that I thought did nothing for me and I did everything that I was supposed to do with them I did send them back and hopefully got a full refund but kept getting more cards and having to cancel and send them back. I then ordered the cross of some kind and a braclet also they to me did not help me at all, maybe I just don't have the right attitude towards it all. I received your email about the archangel Michael and it sounds good but again I have doubts and don't want to waste my hard earned money. I believe in angels and am a christian but am just not sure about everything you say. I have been trying and trying to get some luck and win a large amount of money because of our financial problems I would like to win it mostly for my husband who works so hard and needs a chance to retire and enjoy the rest of his life. I guess I'm just very spectical. gma
What I do when I receive an unsolicited email from a supposed psychic astrologer/medium is; hit reply, and ask them a question about me that only someone that is truly gifted could possibly know. As you have probably already guessed, I have yet to hear back from ANY of them, but then again it was worth it because I no longer receive the bogus emails.
I bought something from bethea 3 years back. They didn't dispatch it until I had to send a rude mail asking if they are yet to parcel my goods via bullock carts. But they sent an email saying they will check if it's done or not. I did receive the product 2 weeks later. They did not do anything malicious with my credit card. But your sad testimonials got me worried.
But I did suffer a loss of around 350 USD through another company - Siteground hosting that hosts websites. Although I wouldn't blame them but their description and billing page was so confusing or evasive that I was led into believing I am about to be charged for the first installment - 5 USD but to my horror the next confirmation page showed they charged 350 USD. I still have to return that much money to my family. It has been so embarrassing that I just kicked that website and could not use their domain and [censor].
I was left with no money so I could not create any more websites but have been living with a sorry face ever since. This is my Ex-site by the way - www.hope-heals.net.
[censor]. sorry im angry.
I dont think I could handle another financial attack from madam bethea. I feel she is ok, probably her staff is lazy.
Thx for letting me vent.
Hi there.
People who need people are the luckiest people on earth. I agreed some of the posting here. God is the only pychic you need in your life. I believed in prayer because it happened to me. So people put God first in your and you wont need psychic scam.
I wonder if this is the same Bethea i am waiting for a Bracelet that has never arrived (PURCHASED IT ON THE 17TH AUGUST)each time i ask her about it there IS A SILENCE NO RESPONSE SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ABOUT IT. IF SHE CLAIMS SHE IS AN HONEST PERSON SHE SHOULD RESPOND TO A PROBLEM IN A PROFESSIONAL MANNER
I to am not believing this . I ordered a cross bell from betha on the 19th of july, with the promise to pay after 30 days after recieving it. well i have not recieved it. and I definitely dont want it after i seen these reviews, IT IS THE 30TH OF JULY. I cannot believe that someone would give such false info to people who are depressed and down on their luck. I am foolish to believe in this anyway with my faith in God! Do not seek psycics, fortunetellers, mediums, astrologers, witchcrafters, or wizards! THEY ARE FALSE AND ARE THE DEVILS LIARS! ALL WILL HAVE TO FACE GOD, AND BE BOUND IN THE PITS OF HELL!
Sincerely,
Margaretha Kelley
I personally had a very nice experience with Bethea Jenner / Rochele Gordon (My Health & Wealth). When I had problem with product, I did not receive any refund by sending emails, however I contacted their service center (given tel number) and spoke with a lady in person, and they actually send me the refund check in mail. It was handled very professionally, and I had a very nice experience with them.
In other notes, Bethea / Rochelle can provide you with tools, however it is up to you if you can make it work or not. Have you heard of 'the law of attraction'? If you think negarively, it would attract the negative energy. If you think positively, it would really attract the positive energy. There is no guarantee if products works or not, but we are the one to make it work... don't you think? So far, I am attracting positive energies! Thank you very much, Bethea / Rochelle. AER
I was suckered in but I only spent no more than $13 something and immediately I canceled by visa card in case of future charges...what a relief. I have never had an major issue with these astrologers-it is the curiosity that gets me to purchase.
For your information, some claim to be astrologers and they are not, they use a software program that spit out exactly what the customer needs to hear and that is it. These fake astrologer give a bad name to others that truly want to help.
The best astrologers are the one you can see eye to eye and can be very expensive but accurate.
Someone needs to stop this person "Bethea" seriously. She is lucky I do not live near her...
Sorry about my last post. Mistake.
Why is this lady still in business? With all of the complaints that I have saw on websites about her, I am suprise that nothing has not been done about her yet. She needs to be made to pay people their money back, including pain and suffering right along with putting her out of business for GOOD!.
She think that she is really winning now, but people who do other people like this will sooner or later get theres. It is an old saying that "what goes around comes around"...
http://www.complaintsboard.com/panel.php?action=register&backUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.complaintsboard.com%2Fpanel.php%3Faction%3Dprofile
Bethea Jenner IS a liar and a fraud. Physic? CERTAINLY NOT. I'm not buying her crap and lies. I hope they ban her from the internet permanently and throw her jail.
I've been recieving messages from Bertha and Rochelle for almost 4 years now. I will say if for nothing else they're consistent. We live in a world of dreamer and with great expectations. We all know if it sounds too good to be true then it probably is. I receive daily sweepstakes winnings and they always want me to send in registration fees. The psychics are no different. When you are in search of hope it's easy to be mislead. If you say what people want to hear they will follow you off a cliff. As a novice writer I could get you to send me $5.53 to tell you that you need to hear more of what goes on in my mind. Out of the millions of people who search for hope on the internet. A few will respond. It's just that simple. blanebrittbroke@yahoo.com
I chose to reply to Bethea's offer. Here's what I replied.
Dear Bethea,
Thank you for the personal email you sent telling me how I will become wealthy and happy using your "Medallion of Hope" along with the other symbols. It's sounds like I can't lose using your medallion. I have a proposition for you that you would be crazy to turn down. Send me the medallion and all the other symbols free of charge including free shipping and what ever money I make after receiving the medallion I will personally give you 25% of the total. So if I should make a million dollars you will receive $250, 000.00. Not bad for the cost of the medallion wouldn't you agree? Plus the total money received could even be larger if what you have told me is true. I know I can trust you and you know you can trust me so why don't we make some money for each other. What do we got to lose? Knowing me the way you do and what my future holds for me amassing a great fortune by using the medallion I would think it would be a no brainer for you to agree to my proposal unless what you have told me is not true. All you have to do is send me the medallion along with the other symbols free of charge and we can both share in my wealth and happiness. If you would like this agreement to be more binding we can have our lawyers draw up the contracts. I don't think that will be necessary do you? I know you have my best interest at heart and I yours. Once I have received the medallion and the other symbols I will contact you and let you know how much money we are both making. I'm looking forward to my 365 day lucky streak, my life changing forever, and our lucrative partnership. If by chance I don't hear from you regarding my generous proposition I'll assume you chose not to accept my proposal and were actually trying to take advantage of me for your own personal gain. If that's the case please do not contact me ever again. I hope this is not the case and you will accept my proposal. The sooner I have the medallion the sooner we can both start to make money. Hope to hear from you soon Bethea. I'm so excited. How about you?
Sincerely,
Not
I am a little different from you guys, I've also subscribe to Bethea for her free reading but as soon as I accepted my free reading she immediately asked for money... I didn't fall for her ###, I knew she was a con artist... Her reading stated that I have some money coming to me but I won't be able to recieve this gift unless I get her help which will run me about $50-$60 ... Yeah right! I believe if I have money coming to me I wouldn't need her help in collecting it... I would've NEVER sent her my credit card information or any money... A couple of years ago I sent $10 to this physic ( it wasn't bethea)and she kept using that same check to withdraw money from my account I promptly called the bank and stopped payment immediately it cost me $35 but it was worth it... Since then I've become very aware that people claiming to see into the future are Fakes! As soon as they request a payment from me I delet their emails... Bethea's horoscope aren't clear and she also include a special bracelet for $29.95 which is suppose to bring you wealth... ###! Bethea is a FRAUD! And so is Sara-Freder... I've never really had any contact with Rochelle but I'm very aware. Of bethea and I notice she responds to these post saying the same thing" please contact my customer service" yeah right! You probably would have a better chance in getting into contact with bethea if you are sending her more money... Bethea I hope you rot in hell where you belong
Wow! Cant believe she used the same check over and over. I goggled "Bertha" because I received two emails stating that money was coming my way but only If I purchased her gold dice...yeah okay, just like pigs fly! How the hell do they get away with this. Why should I give money first? Shouldn't they first prove they can actually do a reading correctly before money is exchanged?!
I sent my braclet back also, and I have a confirmation receipt, dated July 22, 2009. I have not received my refund.
As with many others, they seem to have the same M.O. They charged my credit card once, but I never received item. Even after several emails and telephone calls. Bethea is either a big scam rip-off (you think?) or the worst, most unorganized business woman ever!
hello this "Niku Phougat(Sarah) from INDIA i was about to buy thngs from bethea.i searched her address on google and i was so shckd aftr seeing the link "bethea jenna fraud".i thank you guys for writng ur experiences with her.
if u people really wnna need some help to cure problems of ur life thn plz contact "swetta jumaani" .she is the famous numerologist and lives in pune.i consulted her last year.her fess is 3759 rs only .and only one time charge. if any one wants details about her then u can contact me at heyynicks@yahoo.co.in or visit her website at www.jumaani.com
thnkx n lv u allllllll...
"NICKY"
9th July 2009
Get your critical thinking heads on and note all the times when you have previously encountered seeming insurmountable problems. wasn't it that you happened upon your own solution or commandeered some help from someone you knew.
These outfits are basically a fomulaic business model based on exploiting people's uncertainties-and we are all uncertain about something in our lives everyday.
There is a good book 'soul mates' the author escapes me but in it the medium explains what you should expect from a genuine reading:
actual names, actual facts, actual events, dates etc.
I don't doubt these people have abilities, I just know that these abilities cannot be switched on to demand, like a machine. Same goes for for busy phone-line psychics or anybody doing it on a production line.
It's a special ability that does not perform to the daily grind. sometimes there, sometimes not. In Sarah Freders or Bethea Jenners case-often not- given the number of complaints.
I get these emails every day. Innitially I was slightly moved by them but I can see the same patterns in them over and over. Its a business model these people have developed.
Meditate, pray, seek wise counsel. That will tell you a lot x
I have been receiving my "Weekly Astrology Forecast" from Bethea Jenner for over 2 years now...it is a TOTAL LOAD OF RUBBISH. She can't even get the Latitude and Longtitude of my birth-place right! I've written twice now to ask that it be corrected...and you guessed it no answer! SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA is not exactly hard to find in any Atlas... I also get weekly "offers" from her, or her "dear friend..Bernard C. Bielerde Buhem", trying to entice me to buy their shoddy, wares.
I have been studying and practicing Astrology for over 25 years, I am also a Reiki Master/Teacher and a "Deep-Trance Chanel", so deep that I don't know what has been said through me until I hear it back on a tape recording, that has been implemented by a trusted member of the Meditiation Group that I have attended for the past 15 years.
I will do very comprehensive Astrology charts for those who request them, I DO NOT use a computer based programme to print out a load of drivel. I spend many hours, studying individual charts, the aspects and meanings, then and ONLY THEN do I put pen to paper, and write up to 40 foolscap pages for the individual concerned. Yes, I DO mean the good old-fashioned writing tablets with the blue lines on them, and a blue or black ball -point pen. Anything that REALLY shouts out at me I write in RED ball-point pen.
For this service I charge $40 Australian...which is a very fair price, I think, for the days of work involved.
I always warn people about computer generated charts...the person entering the information, be they "psychic" or not, are only human, and can, like the rest of us, enter a wrong word, letter or number. When doing a true Astrology chart one wrong number can make a HUGE difference to the outcome.
Lastly, if all of the tawdry "lucky" bits and pieces were so great, and REALLY worked Bethea, Rochelle and Bernard would all be so fabulously wealthy, that they could run a website GIVING AWAY all of their" bits and bobs", so that their "Dear Friend" on the other end of the email, would be able to access a piece of the "magick", become wealthy themselves, and PAY IT FORWARD!
Karma is a wonderful thing, it eventually jumps up and "bites" when one least expects it! So some of us may yet get to see the charlatans of the world receive the Karma that they offer to "protect" the rest of us from.
Love and light to all
Caz
Where can I make a complaint about a Psychic reader who robbed me of my money --650$, promised to create a energised gold-silver ring, and doesnt give it now. She promised 6 sessions of consulting for which she gives excuses everytime and is now demanding more money. I think she is a complete hoax, she is based in new york city. Her name is Samantha Rees
I've read all of the posts. She's not scamming, she's just in business to make money. Maybe she just has a very error-prone system of charging credut cards.
The posts that say that her necklace didn't bring luck or didn't work made me laugh. Thanks! Of course they didn't work. There aren't psychics that work and psychics that don't work. They all don't work.
Believe in yourself. Not psychics, biorythms, tarot readings, or even deities.
There has never been a study that has shown any of it to actually work!
Of course some of you may know in your hearts that it works or know someone that had an experience or saw a show, read something, heard something, etc.
Look a little deeper and you'll find that anyone promoting this stuff is either in it for the money or in it for control or both.
I have read everyone complaints. I wanted to tell everyone do not order by credit card, and on her official website there is a link to order by mail without using a credit card. I do suggest order by mail without using a credit or ATM debit, only by check this way you can ask your bank to place the check on hold, especially since there are of scams and I have read on different sites people have been trying to get a refund. I have never order any readings or products from Bethea Jenner.