Silverleaf Resorts
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There is a specific form that spells out this cancellation condition. It is called the Rights of Recision and I guarantee you got it. The contracts you signed also discusses recision rights and advises how to complete this.

We bought a timeshare through silverleaf and I hate every minute of our purchase. We were suckers from the beginning. I would like to sell my timeshare but they told me I need to pay in full before I can do that. Can anyone give me advice on what I can do!? I am sick of the increased fees every other month. If you have advice please email me at jmcrowley15@yahoo.com

I am a former Silverleaf Employee . I am so gladd I no longer work for SLR. I worked in The Corporate Office in Dallas and I got first hand experience on how the public gets shafted. I worked in Financial Services. This is the dept that is in charge of collections. The first thing we are made aware of in Trainning class is that SLR is not a third party collector so we are not bound by the Federal collections laws ( FDCPA) . So that meens you will get harrassing phone calls at work, at Home ., your next of Kin, and your neighbors will be contacted as well if no one can get a hold of you on the phone. All this is if you fall behind a couple of weeks ! not months. In Trainning we are also advised that the people we deal with are not very SHARP . they are mostly blue collar working people who dream of having a lake House or just a place to take the kids on the weekends.But do not have alot of money. I would like to share with you some of the things that SLR does that made me want to leave the company after only 1 year . (1) High presure sales. I can not tell you how many people call everyday explainning that they went to a 90 min presentation that turned out to last over 3 or four hours. The sales people will say any thing to get you to sign up . They say alot but none of it is in writting. I had a large number of people who purchased a " Sampler package" This is presented to people as a way to test drive one of the resorts. for only $ 850.00 to $ 1, 000.00 What they dont say is you can only use during white or blue weeks at participating SLR resorts ( not all SLR) . the blue and white weeks are the coldest and the least popular of all weeks. When you come to the 90 min meeting you are asked to bring two forms of ID and a credit card. If you show any intrest in SLR or you just want to get away with the " FREE PRIZE " they will set you up with a sampler package and start auto debit installments on your debit card. People find this out after the first month or two then call in upset and want to stop the auto draft. The sampler package does not hit you credit report when you cancell because the laws of lending are not followed so they can not use the threat of bad information at the credit agencys as leverage to collect. (2) I had a large number of calls from people who said they went to the sales meeting and decided to purchase but were not to clear on the terms of financing. The painfull clarity comes in a couple of months latter when the customer finds out that a credit card has been opened up in their name and the entire purchase price is the unpaid balance on the card. SLR does disclose they will do this but it is fine print and covered so quickly in a 3 or 4 hour meeting that no one seems to remember going over this big DETAIL. The reason SLR does this is so they get paid up front if you default you will have the credit card people to deal with. The reason the collection dept calls them is that even if you make the pmts on time you still have to pay the monthly HOA or maintainance fees that have now increased 10% across the board. this is the third increase in 5 years. there are some folks that are paying more for dues monthly then they did for the original resort on a monthly basis. And yes SLR can take back the property for un paid dues. ( 3) The next biggest complaint is bonus time that years ago was called endless escape. Bonus time is availble but not guarenteed . bonus time can not be used during major holidays . you can request bonus time and if none of the current week owners or some who paid more money for their timeshare then you did want that particular week, then it will be awarded to you . so yes there is bonus time but you wont get it when you want it. (4) I contacted a large number of people who said they wish they would have never purchased thier timeshare with SLR . They advised they are trying to sell the timeshare But, they say no one wants it and they cant even give ti away. This is true. this is allways the caller who has paid some timeshare resale company any whear from $ 500.00 to $ 2500 dollares to sell their timeshare and after they pay them they dont hear from them again . The previous reasons are the main ones why I left . I felt bad for the people I talked to on the phone and the hardships SLR has caused them . My advice to any one wanting a vacation. DONT FINANCE . for $ 850.00 to $ 1, 000.00 you can get a nice weekend just about any whear in the world, dont buy a something that you will pay on forever and not use but every now and then . the owned weeks can run from $ 3, 500.00 to $ 60, 000.00 You can buy a lake house or a lake lot for that and its yours . And allways buyer beware . SLR does have some happy campers . The happy campers I have seen are old retired and have lots of family who use the resorts and help with the maintainace fees. but the number of happy camper calls i got were few and far between. Please be advised that the SLR financial services ( collection) is growing and is expecting to double due to the incredible number of defaults . so dont be surprised if you get a call from SLR wanting to know if you can knock on your neighbors door and have them contact SLR about an urgetn matter

Do a 'google' search on Silverleaf Resorts and you will find a myriad of problems with this company, including several complaints with the Dallas Better Business Bureau.

I've compiled more complaints than recommendations on my FB group site. It's NOT all inclusive, but has several other sites (including this one) pertaining to this company.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=108284962536258&v=app_2373072738#!/group.php?gid=108284962536258&v=wall

I could have written this complaint myself. Word for word. The only difference is that I bought mine in November. Silverleaf - and Oak and Spruce - do not care about their owners.

Holy crap ! They just called me yesterday and told me to come to there apointment on sunday at 230 grrr ... What will happen if I dont show?

As far as the timeshare I bought one with Silverleaf and love being able to take my children to the resorts. Since we live pretty close to three of them we spend a lot of time there. I mean we can either go spend a fortune playin golf, going to the pool, whatever or we can go spend three nights in a two bedroom condo with a free theater, basketball, putt putt golf and more. I don't regret buying a timeshare but I do regret who I bought mine with.
I would advise anybody to stay away from Silverleaf their sales tour is filled with lies, they will tell you anything to get you to buy and once you buy you find out all the lies they told. Not to mention all that money we pay in dues, where on earth does it go? I almost fell through the floor the last time I stayed at Lake of The Woods. Pathetic considering they are getting at least 30, 000 a year off the dues for one condo!
Oh yeah and the whole nobody can stay but Silverleaf owners or people exchanging through RCI is CRAP! Grand vacations and several other vacation clubs can rent condos at the resort as much as they want so there goes somebodies bonus time.
The up side is the bonus time has worked for us since we live so close we can just keep putting in bonus time if we get turned down and still end up staying several times a year and Sun thru Thursday is free there is no charge for a condo..

Did you ever get your prizes? Or was that just a scam as well?

Welcome to the world of timeshare sales. I have been to several of these presentations over the years. I always thought that the price was too high for what you get. Instead the wife and I purchased a vacation club. A much better value and we get to use all of the timeshare resorts without having to buy timeshare.

As far as selling your timeshare check out tug2.com but just to let you know, your timeshare isn't worth near what you paid for it. Good luck to both of you.

For your info the club that we own is called Grand Vacation Club.

Same thing happened to me but I was stupid enough to fall into their selling scheme. Now I need to sell my share but i have no idea how to go about doing it. Can anyone help me?

complain to bbb, texas general attorney, the general attorny of resort, and your state general attorny,
and if you want get a free consultation

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Advertising Age

November 7, 1988

Texas officials probe resort mailings

BYLINE: By DENISE GETSON, Christy Fisher in Dallas contributed to this story

SECTION: NEWS; Direct Marketing; Pg. 30

LENGTH: 566 words

A U.S. attorney in Texas has obtained what he believes is one of the largest-ever mail fraud judgments against a time-share resort company. Now, he wants to nab the company's direct-mailing agency.
The lawsuit, brought by U.S. Attorney Bob Wortham in Beaumont, Texas, last month, resulted in a $1.5 million fine against Freedom Financial Corp., which advertised time-shares by offering prizes to consumers for visiting the resorts.

Among the prizes: an "all-terrain vehicle" that was actually a lawn chair with large plastic wheels.
As part of plea-bargain agreement with the court, the Dallas company pleaded guilty to one count of conspiring to commit mail fraud and two counts of mail fraud relating to the distribution of misleading direct-mail ads for its time-share resort properties from September 1987 to June 1988. Freedom Financial operates five time-share developments in Texas and two in Missouri.
"I plan to change the way these time-share operations do business, and the direct-mail companies are at the top of the pyramid." Mr. Wortham said.
"Freedom Financial was sold a package by a direct mailer who claimed that their tactics were legitimate and had been proven with other resort operations in the county, " Mr. Wortham said. "Of course, Freedom Financial had to be pretty greedy to shut their eyes and be taken in by the claims."
His office is still investigating the direct-mail company's role in the scheme.
An official statement by Freedom Financial implicated a third-party professional mailing organization, which it had contracted with for the creation and distribution of its ads.
However, Freedom Financial's plea-bargaining agreement with the court has been sealed.
Penny Wilson, VP-marketing for Freedom Financial, refused to release the company's name.
Separately, Freedom Financial is paying $219, 000 in fees and restitution to Texas, Kansas, Missouri and Oklahoma and residents of those states who complained to government agencies that prizes offered for visiting the resorts were misrepresented.
Time-share resorts often entice visitors by claiming that a major prize is being reserved for them.
The investigation by the Texas attorney general found consumers who visited Freedom Financial time-share properties often were subjected to high-pressure sales tactics. In some instances, consumers got virtually worthless gifts rather than the high-price prizes they expected.
In addition to the "all-terrain vehicle" was a ladie's imported black mink coat, which was composed of dyed waste fur parts, including snouts, paws and ears. The value of the coat to winners, after they paid a "redemption fee, " was 5¢.
A Freedom Financial solicitation resembled an official telegram and carried a false endorsement from the Texas attorney general's office.
The attorney general won an injunction requiring Freedom Financial to declare its contracts with mailing organizations to his office. Further, the office will regulate future ads for proper disclosure of prize information and terms of redemption.
Lorna Christie, director of ethics and consumer affairs for the Digest Marketing Association, said vigorous prosecution is appropriate when direct mailers employ fraudulent practices.
"Fraud hurts our business, " Ms. Christie said. "It's in the best interest of this organization that companies engaging in fraud are put out of business."

PERSON: BOB WORTHAM (63%);

COUNTRY: UNITED STATES (97%);

STATE: TEXAS, USA (97%); MISSOURI, USA (92%);

CITY: DALLAS, TX, USA (79%);

COMPANY: FREEDOM FINANCIAL LIFE INSURANCE CO (90%);

SUBJECT: RESORTS (90%); DIRECT MAIL MARKETING (90%); LAWYERS (90%); PLEA AGREEMENTS (89%); JUSTICE DEPARTMENTS (89%); FRAUD & FINANCIAL CRIME (89%); ATTORNEYS GENERAL (89%); INVESTIGATIONS (89%); CONSPIRACY (78%); FINES & PENALTIES (76%); GUILTY PLEAS (75%); SUITS & CLAIMS (73%); SALES PLAN (71%); MOTOR VEHICLES (70%); FUR & LEATHER CLOTHING (62%);

LANGUAGE: ENGLISH

Copyright 1988 Crain Communications, Inc.;
The San Diego Union-Tribune

June 11, 1989 Sunday

Fraud charges a threat to lavish lifestyle

BYLINE: Jim Okerblom, Staff Writer

SECTION: LOCAL; Pg. B-1

LENGTH: 1854 words

DATELINE: RANCHO SANTA FE

RANCHO SANTA FE -- David and Annette Hagen would seem to be the picture of success, what with the brand new, $670, 000 five-bedroom house they are renting here, the Cadillac and Range Rover in the drive and the direct-mail business they own in the the pink-stucco Polo Plaza complex nearby. That's what lots of people -- first in Seattle and then in Virginia -- thought about the Hagens.
Many don't think that anymore. "If you deal with that man, do so at your own risk -- he will take your money and run, " is how Desmond Call, manager of the Ad Pro print shop in a Seattle suburb, put it. Over the past 10 years, the 34-year-old Hagen has left in his wake scores of angry creditors, thousands of complaints from consumers, lawsuits, criminal investigations and an eight-count indictment for mail fraud and conspiracy, filed March 31 against him and his wife in Jefferson County, Texas. The Hagens recently opened the Brown Development Institute on Via de la Valle here. Approached at his office last week, Hagen answered to the name David Brown, but later denied that he was using that name.
A promotional brochure for his new company on his desk had his name printed as David Haggin.
He said that was a misprint. Hagen declined to be interviewed for this story, saying past interviews have resulted in "absolute lies" about him appearing in print.
In an interview with the Washington Post last month, he dismissed the indictment, saying, "Someone once said a U.S. attorney can indict a sandwich." Hagen's Houston attorney, Kent Schaeffer, said Hagen and his wife are innocent of the mail-fraud charges.
Schaeffer attributed Hagen's financial difficulties to business setbacks beyond his control. Despite his financial problems, Hagen has managed to live the good life by operating a series of direct-mail businesses that promote time-share campgrounds, resorts and condominiums.
Companies he has controlled in other states have sent out millions of letters -- by one account as many as 250 million -- promising prizes for people who attend time-share sales promotions.
Authorities allege the prizes often were never awarded. But much of Hagen's success, those who have dealt with him say, stems from his uncanny skill at running up hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt, and then walking away from it -- over and over again. "He deserves an academy award -- he's that good, " said Paul Wham, co-owner of LaserPrint, a Seattle-area company that says it lost more than $30, 000 to Hagen. Before moving to San Diego about three months ago, Hagen lived with Annette, his second wife, in Great Falls, Va. There, the two were known as David and Annette DeFusco.
DeFuusco is her maiden name.
Their life in Northern Virginia including driving a $95, 000 Rolls Royce and a Mercedes Benz and living on a 150-acre farm. The mail-fraud indictment stemmed from the Manassas Park, Va., direct mail firm that the couple operated with Annette as president. The Northern Virginia operation used several names, including DeFusco Advertising and Design, Lead Marketing, Leadco, Bureau of Adjustment and U.S. Graphics & Mail Ltd. According to Texas authorities, the operation sent out as many as 26 million letters to people in six Southwestern states offering BMWs, large-screen television sets, up to $10, 000 in cash and other prizes for attending time-share promotions for resorts owned by Dallas-based Freedom Financial Corp. Bob Worthman, the assistant U.S. Attorney in Beumont, Texas, who sought the indictment, alleges that the mailings were a blatant scam.
Unlike many mailings of this sort, Wortham says, the Hagens letters listed no cheap gifts, only expensive prizes such as cars, television sets and cash. "A lot of them said you were absolutely guaranteed to get both of the prizes, " he said.
"And you'd get there and win a book on the 1984 Olympics." Wortham said the mailings, in mid-1987 to mid-1988, prompted more than 2, 000 complaints in Texas alone. "We've handled a lot of major cases in the United States -- drugs, major bank-fraud cases, " Wortham said.
"But no other case I've handled has received the interest of the public as this case." Bill Van Hook, the assistant attorney general in Springfield, Mo., said his office also received close to 1, 000 complaints about the letters. Schaeffer, the Hagens' Houston attorney, argued the mailings were not illegal because they contained a "qualifying number" that had to match a winning number before the prizes were actually awarded.
He also noted that Freedom Financial, which hired the Hagens and approved their mailings, paid a $1.5 million fine but did not face any criminal charges. (The company was named an unindicted co-conspirator.) The couple's trial is scheduled for August. In 1987, the Hagens declared Chapter 7 bankruptcy for their Manassas Park operation. The company listed debts of $875, 000 to 20 of the largest unsecured creditors, with the Hagens personally responsible for none of it, said Gerald O'Donnell, the U.S. trustee overseeing the bankruptcy in Alexandria. There are no substantial assets, O'Donnell said, because much of the property was leased. The company's debts, in a 13-volume bankruptcy file, reportedly exceed $1.3 million to nearly 100 creditors.
One creditor is the doctor who delivered the Hagens' baby three years ago. Another creditor is Tri-State Envelope in Beltsville, Md. David Zukerberg, Tri-State's sales manager, said Hagen came in and paid cash for several small orders, and then asked for credit. "We said, `OK, we'll give you 20 days, ' " Zukerberg recalled. Soon much larger orders came in, and checks began bouncing. "In the space of 45 days, he had us for about $40, 000 or $50, 000, " Zukerberg said. The company eventually recovered close to half the amount, after some heavy-handed collection tactics, Zukerberg said.
Many other companies, banks and the U.S. Postal Service were not so lucky.
They got nothing. Schaeffer blamed the debts on the "amount of heat" put on by government investigators, which he said quickly drove away the Hagens' customers and sank the business. But the stories about Hagen are similar in Seattle. In 1979, Hagen and his first wife, Amanda, filed for personal bankruptcy for a company they owned called Sunbeam Electronics.
They listed debts totaling $296, 955 to 23 unsecured creditors.
All were legally discharged, according to bankruptcy records. After working in the marketing department for a time-share campground company in Bellevue, Hagen formed his own direct-mail marketing company, World Wide Marketing, around 1981 with several partners, said a former business associate who asked not to be identified. Under contract, the company was paid $50 to $85 for each "lead" it could entice to come to a sales promotion for a time-share resort or campground. Hagen liked to brag about his $1, 000 suits and his silk shirts and ties; he drove a Cadillac and stockpiled diamonds and other jewels, said John English, a World Wide salesman who eventually became vice president for sales. World Wide's offices were equally lavish, with $80, 000 worth of custom furniture, including a $6, 000 conference table, $1, 700 leather chairs, a $3, 000 desk in Hagen's office and a $4, 000 reception center, said Edward Webb, owner of Crawford's Office Furniture in Seattle. All of the furniture, Webb said, was leased through a company Hagen provided.
His store, Webb said, received an initial $1, 700 down payment, and then the deal collapsed.
The store finally recovered the furniture after nearly a year by paying a lien to a storage company, said Webb's daughter, Lynn. The last of it has been sold only recently. "It was just one nightmare after another, " she said. When English became vice president for sales, he assumed World Wide was awash in black ink, he said.
Then, when his wife gave birth to a baby prematurely, he discovered money that had been deducted from his paycheck for health insurance had never paid to the insurance company.
Hagen, he said, dismissed it as a clerical error -- but it happened again with another insurance company. Calls from disgruntled creditors began surfacing, English said, "and it became obvious what was going on."
English resigned, still owing $6, 000 in hospital bills. In 1984, after Hagen had remarried, World Wide Marketing was forced into Chapter 7 bankruptcy, leaving debts close to $1 million to dozens of Seattle-area companies. The former business associate said Hagen went on to form two more direct-mail companies -- one called United Prudential Inc. and one called Matrix.
He lived an increasingly lavish lifestyle, the man said, while both those companies racked up more debts. Gary Jones, owner of Westgate Travel in Seattle, said United Prudential paid cash for small amounts of airline travel and then charged $6, 600 worth.
"I never saw a penny of it, " Jones said. While trying to collect the debt one day, Jones said, United Prudential's controller sat "face-to-face across the desk" from him and announced, "We never intend to pay you or any of the others.
It has worked very successfully for us." Call, the office manager for Ad-Pro Litho in Lynnwood, Wash., said United Prudential charged $14, 000 to his company within the first 30 days, paying nothing.
Call said a company official laughed and told him: "If I decide to pay you, I will.
If I decide not to, I won't. And there's not a damn thing you can do about it." Schaeffer, the attorney, emphasized that most of the more than $1 million in debts Hagen left behind in Seattle were legally discharged.
The remaining creditors, he said, had legal avenues they could have pursued. "If all these people were really defrauded out of their money, why wasn't something done years ago?" he asked. Postal inspectors in Seattle spent four years investigating World Wide Marketing, United Prudential, Matrix and two other companies connected to Hagen there, said Stan Pilkey, the inspector who headed the probe.
Postal officials have said thousands of people were promised free trips, most never receiving them, and about 1, 000 lost $200 each in "refundable deposits." Harry McCarthy, an assistant U.S. Attorney in Seattle, said his office received the results of the investigations in January, and is still reviewing it to determine whether a criminal indicment will be sought. "It's fairly extensive, in terms of the number of people involved, " McCarthy said. The Hagens' lavish lifestyle may finally be threatened. In addition to the criminal charges they face in Texas, their company's bankruptcy in Virginia may also be in trouble.
O'Donnell, the trustee, said he has filed a challenge to the company's request to discharge its debts, contending it is in "absolute violation" of the bankruptcy code. It is unclear what business the Hagens' new company, Brown Development Institute, is doing here.
Hagen told a reporter last month that the company would do desk-top publishing and design small ads, and was "staying away" from any time-share promotions. But the promotional sheet for the Brown Institute on Hagen's desk last week -- the one with a name spelled "Haggin" -- was a list of valuable prizes that someone may have won.

The Washington Post

May 14, 1989, Sunday, Final Edition

DeFuscos Are Called Bad Example;
Time-Share Firms Changing Tactics

BYLINE: Mary Jordan, Washington Post Staff Writer

SECTION: FIRST SECTION; PAGE A18

LENGTH: 416 words

David and Annette DeFusco "are to our industry what pornographers are to the publishing industry, " said Gary A. Terry, president of American Resort and Residential Development Association, which represents a majority of the 1, 100 owners of time-share developments in the United States.
The millions of DeFusco mailings -- which promise, but do not deliver, expensive prizes to lure people to resorts or presentations of time shares -- have tarnished the image of time shares, Terry says.
But David DeFusco says that he is being blamed for the sins of an entire industry, and that vacation promoters have always relied on gimmicks and free gift offers to attract people.

"I did what everybody else did, " he said in a recent interview at his offices in Rancho Santa Fe, Calif. "Only I ran into a prosecutor who wanted to clean up the industry."
Time sharing -- buying into a resort for a week or more each year -- has become increasingly popular both in the United States and abroad, according to industry figures.
In 1988, 1.3 million Americans owned a time share, according to Terry's group.
Faced with increasingly bad publicity recently, some resort owners say they are rethinking their advertising tactics and hiring lawyers to read their promotional mail.
Outdoor World Inc., which owns 14 vacation spots around the country and once hired the DeFuscos, reviews all its mailings for potential legal problems, according to Bruce Morgan, the company's attorney.
"What David DeFusco has been indicted for is not part of the mainstream, " Morgan said.
"We've never had anybody as nasty as this."
The resort owners who hired the DeFuscos have run into trouble, too. The Dallas-based Freedom Financial Corp. pleaded guilty in October to conspiracy and mail fraud charges and paid a $ 1.5 million fine.
According to federal prosecutors, Freedom Financial paid for millions of the DeFuscos' mailings and had endorsed their use.
In Alexandria, The Hensley Group Inc., a time-share company that also used the DeFuscos' mailings, has been the target of complaints and lawsuits in Virginia, Maryland and Florida. Federal prosecutors said other resorts linked to the DeFuscos also may find themselves indicted or fined for fraud.
"Most members would love not to send direct mail, " Terry said, "but direct mail plus a gift offer is the single most successful [advertising strategy for time shares]. Unfortunately, it lends itself to . . . unethical and misrepresentative material."

ENHANCEMENT: SIDEBAR

COUNTRY: UNITED STATES (95%);

STATE: VIRGINIA, USA (92%); TEXAS, USA (79%); CALIFORNIA, USA (79%); MARYLAND, USA (79%);

CITY: DALLAS, TX, USA (79%);

COMPANY: FREEDOM FINANCIAL LIFE INSURANCE CO (53%); AMERICAN RESORT DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION (84%);

ORGANIZATION: OUTDOOR WORLD INC. ; HENSLEY GROUP INC.

SUBJECT: FRAUD; REAL ESTATE INDUSTRY; MARKETING; ADVERTISING REAL ESTATE (90%); RESIDENTIAL CO-OWNERSHIP (90%); REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT (90%); TRAVEL HOSPITALITY & TOURISM (90%); RESORTS (90%); DIRECT MAIL MARKETING (89%); JUSTICE DEPARTMENTS (89%); INDICTMENTS (88%); FRAUD & FINANCIAL CRIME (88%); INTERVIEWS (78%); LEISURE TRAVEL (78%); PUBLISHING (73%); LAWYERS (73%); GUILTY PLEAS (73%); MARKETING & ADVERTISING (72%); MARKETING STRATEGY (70%); CONSPIRACY (69%); FINES & PENALTIES (67%);

PERSON: DAVID DEFUSCO; ANNETTE DEFUSCO; GARY A. TERRY GARY A TERRY (90%); DAVID DEFUSCO (82%); BRUCE MORGAN (66%); ANNETTE DEFUSCO (66%);

LANGUAGE: ENGLISH

TYPE: VIRGINIA NEWS, NATIONAL NEWS

Copyright 1989 The Washington Post
Austin American-Statesman (Texas)

September 13, 1997

Timeshare purchasers seldom satisfied

BYLINE: David Evans

SECTION: Business; Pg. D1

LENGTH: 1004 words

DALLAS -- To Connye and Melvin Eichelberger of Dallas, the proposition from Silverleaf Resorts Inc. was outrageous.
In June, Silverleaf offered $200 to buy back the same timeshare vacation unit in Flint that it sold her for $5, 850 in October 1994. The development is on a lake about 100 miles east of Dallas.
Though the Eichelbergers wanted to sell, they declined the offer.

It was ridiculous, '' Connye Eichelberger said. I thought they were joking.''
It's no joke, however. Many owners of Silverleaf timeshares who want to sell their vacation investments accept the company's $200 buyback offer. That's because the resale market for timeshares -- which grant owners the right to use a condominium for a specified week each year -- is almost nonexistent.
Such transactions contributed to the 94 percent gross profit margin that Silverleaf posted last year, which was higher than that of almost any public company. Silverleaf's stock has gained 44 percent since its June initial public offering of 3.6 million shares at $16 by Credit Suisse First Boston. The stock closed at $22.75 a share Friday.
Silverleaf is one of the largest timeshare vacation developers in the $2 billion-a-year U.S. timeshare industry. It is an industry that is still dogged by customer complaints that, in the 1970s and '80s, led to some timeshare promoters going to jail for defrauding consumers.
For some timeshare owners who want out of their vacation investments, the difficulty in reselling their units is a source of grief. Silverleaf bought back 1, 500 timeshares for $200 a unit at its seven resorts in Texas and Missouri last year. Meanwhile, the company was able to sell units to new customers for an average price of $6, 645.
Silverleaf's average cost for each one-week unit sold to new customers last year was about $387, including buybacks, foreclosures, new construction and units from inventory.
Almost half the 1.8 million U.S. owners of timeshares are interested in selling, according to an industry study released in July. The number of units that Silverleaf bought back last year was equal to a quarter of the 6, 054 units it sold to new customers. Now, Silverleaf plans to buy back only about 500 units a year, according to the prospectus for its IPO.
Sharon Brayfield, president of Dallas-based Silverleaf, said the company buys back timeshares as a favor to its customers. It's kind of a customer service-type thing, '' she said. This is not something we forced anyone to do.''
The market for resale of timeshare intervals is very limited, '' said Silverleaf in its prospectus. Resale prices are substantially below their original purchase price.''
It isn't easy to sell timeshares the first time, either. Silverleaf spent 45 percent of its 1996 revenue on sales and marketing, which is in line with the industry, about $3, 000 for each timeshare sold. Timeshare buyers get title to 1/50 of a resort condominium unit and the right to use it for one week a year. They must also pay maintenance fees or dues.
Regrets purchase
Nobody wakes up in the morning and says, I want to buy a timeshare, ''' said industry consultant John Simon of KPMG Consulting.
Ask Ruthie Seward, an inventory clerk from Frankston who now regrets her $8, 500 purchase of a Silverleaf timeshare last year. She paid $850 down, and committed to monthly payments of $142 for seven years.
It's a lot of money for something we don't even use, '' Sewardsaid.
She said she was lured to the sales presentation by a letter from Silverleaf informing her that she'd won a prize.
Three months ago, Seward paid $200 to list her timeshare with a broker, asking $7, 000, but hasn't attracted any inquiries.
Foreclosures are another source of low-cost timeshare inventory for Silverleaf. In 1996, the company charged off bad debts representing 25 percent, or $12.1 million of its $48.1 million of sales. That's more than five times the industry average.
No Buyer Found
The Eichelbergers weren't able to find a buyer for their timeshare by July 1. That's when Silverleaf foreclosed on it. Even though Connye Eichelberger and her husband owned it free and clear, they were $350 behind in paying the $600 annual dues Silverleaf charges all its timeshare owners.
We kissed $6, 000 goodbye, '' said Eichelberger. Yet she said she doesn't regret turning down Silverleaf's $200 buy offer. I considered that an insult.''
According to the industry's study, the most common reasons timeshare owners want to sell are lifestyle changes, insufficient usage, the continuing expense and wanting more vacation flexibility.
The industry was notorious in the 1970s and 1980s for using high-pressure sales tactics and phony contests to persuade unsophisticated consumers that timeshares were a good investment.
In 1988, Silverleaf, then called Freedom Financial, was convicted on federal mail fraud and conspiracy charges, and paid a $1.5 million fine. The company admitted defrauding consumers by promising them nonexistent prizes in exchange for attending a timeshare presentation.
Robert Mead, who owned Freedom Financial, is now chairman and chief executive of Silverleaf. He holds about 7.7 million shares, worth $175 million. Although his company was convicted of fraud, he wasn't personally charged with any crime. David DeFusco, who provided sales leads for Freedom Financial, pleaded guilty to federal fraud charges and received a prison sentence.
Yes, we had problems back in 1988, '' said Brayfield. That was a really painful period for Bob.''
Besides the criminal conviction when it was called Freedom Financial, Silverleaf has been the subject of several enforcement actions by Texas and Missouri regulators.
In March, it donated $30, 000 to Texas to settle allegations by the Texas Real Estate Commission that it used illegal sales practices. Silverleaf admitted no wrongdoing.
The commission is now investigating 16 new complaints against Silverleaf, said Beverly Rabenberg, an attorney for the commission.

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Copyright 1997 The Austin American-Statesman
St. Louis Post-Dispatch (Missouri)

September 21, 1997, Sunday, FIVE STAR LIFT EDITION

SILVERLEAF PROFITS BIG IN TIGHT TIMESHARE BUSINESS;
COMPANY HAS BEEN A TARGET OF COMPLAINTS

BYLINE: David Evans; 1997, Bloomberg News

SECTION: BUSINESS, Pg. 08E

LENGTH: 1144 words

DATELINE: DALLAS

To Connye and Melvin Eichelberger of Dallas, the proposition from Silverleaf Resorts Inc. was outrageous.
In June, Silverleaf offered $ 200 to buy back the same timeshare vacation unit in Flint, Texas, that it sold her for $ 5, 850 in October 1994.

Though the Eichelbergers wanted to sell, they declined the offer.
"It was ridiculous, " Connye Eichelberger said. "I thought they were joking."

It's no joke, however. Many owners of Silverleaf timeshares who want to sell their vacation investments accept the company's $ 200 buyback offer. That's because the resale market for timeshares is almost nonexistent.
Timeshares grant owners the right to use a condominium or other piece of property, such as a campsite, for a specified week each year.
Silverleaf is one of the largest timeshare vacation developers in the $ 2 billion-a-year U.S. timeshare industry. The Dallas company has two timeshare resorts in the Branson area. It is building a third one south of Festus, Mo. It also has five in Texas and is building one near Chicago.
Silverleaf posted a 94 percent gross profit margin last year, higher than that of almost any public company. Its stock has gained 44 percent since its June initial public offering of 3.6 million shares at 16 by Credit Suisse First Boston. The stock was trading at about $ 23 Monday .
The timeshare industry is still dogged by customer complaints that, in the 1970s and 1980s, led to some timeshare promoters going to jail for defrauding consumers.
In 1988, Silverleaf - then known as Freedom Financial - agreed to pay the state of Missouri $ 45, 000 after the state accused the company of breaking consumer fraud laws related to its direct mail practices.
Tom Franks, a key officer of Silverleaf, said last week (Sept. 11) that those practices occurred when the company used outside marketers to drum up customers. The company has since brought all its marketing in-house, he said.
A spokesman for the Missouri state attorney general, whose office oversees timeshare resorts, said that it had received no complaints in the past couple of years about the company.
For some timeshare owners who want out of their vacation investments, the difficulty in reselling their units is a source of grief. Silverleaf bought back 1, 500 timeshares for $ 200 a unit at its seven resorts in Texas and Missouri last year. Meanwhile, the company was able to sell units to new customers for an average price of $ 6, 645 a week.
Silverleaf's average cost for each one-week unit sold to new customers last year was about $ 387, including buybacks, foreclosures, new construction and units from inventory.
Almost half the 1.8 million U.S. owners of timeshares are "interested" in selling, according to an industry study released in July. The number of units that Silverleaf bought back last year was equal to a quarter of the 6, 054 units that it sold to new customers. Now, Silverleaf plans to buy back only about 500 units a year, according to the prospectus for its IPO.
Sharon Brayfield, president of Dallas-based Silverleaf, said the company buys back timeshares as a favor to its customers.
Franks said customers are told before closing a deal that Silverleaf makes no promises about buying back weeks or re-selling them for customers.
"The market for resale of timeshare intervals is very limited, " said Silverleaf in its prospectus. "Resale prices are substantially below their original purchase price."
Franks said salesmen are told to tell customers that in order to get value out of the purchase, they must use it.
Silverleaf spent 45 percent of its 1996 revenue on sales and marketing, which is in line with the industry. That amounts to about $ 3, 000 for each timeshare sold.
"Nobody wakes up in the morning and says, 'I want to buy a timeshare, ' " said industry consultant John Simon of KPMG Consulting.
Ask Ruthie Seward, an inventory clerk from Frankston, Texas, who now regrets her $ 8, 500 purchase of a Silverleaf timeshare last year. She paid $ 850 down and committed to monthly payments of $ 142 for seven years.

"It's a lot of money for something we don't even use, " said Seward.
She said she was attracted to the sales presentation by a letter from Silverleaf informing her that she had won a prize.
Three months ago, Seward paid $ 200 to list her timeshare with a broker, asking $ 7, 000. She hasn't attracted any inquiries.
Foreclosures are another source of low-cost timeshare inventory for Silverleaf. In 1996, the company charged off bad debts representing 25 percent, or $ 12.1 million of its $ 48.1 million of sales.
The Eichelbergers weren't able to find a buyer for their timeshare by July 1. That's when Silverleaf foreclosed on it. Even though Connye Eichelberger and her husband owned it free and clear, they were $ 350 behind in paying the $ 600 annual dues Silverleaf charges all its timeshare owners.
"We kissed $ 6, 000 goodbye, " said Eichelberger. Yet she said she doesn't regret turning down Silverleaf's $ 200 buy offer. "I considered that an insult."
According to the industry's study, the most common reasons timeshare owners want to sell are lifestyle changes, insufficient usage, the continuing expense and wanting more vacation flexibility.
The industry was notorious in the 1970s and 1980s for using high-pressure sales tactics and phony contests to persuade unsophisticated consumers that timeshares were a good investment.
In 1988, Silverleaf, then called Freedom Financial, was convicted on federal mail fraud and conspiracy charges and paid a $ 1.5 million fine. The company admitted defrauding consumers by promising them nonexistent prizes in exchange for attending a timeshare presentation.
Robert Mead, who owned Freedom Financial, is now chairman and chief executive of Silverleaf. He holds about 7.7 million shares, worth $ 175 million. Although his company was convicted of fraud, he wasn't personally charged with any crime. David DeFusco, who provided sales leads for Freedom Financial, pleaded guilty to federal fraud charges and received a prison sentence.
The Texas Real Estate Commission is investigating 16 complaints against Silverleaf, said Beverly Rabenberg, an attorney for the commission. These are in addition to the allegations of illegal sales practices that were settled in March when the company donated $ 30, 000 to Texas. Silverleaf admitted no wrongdoing at the time.
Silverleaf acknowledges using "intensive" tactics with sales prospects, who aren't wealthy. "The company targets audiences which generally are less financially sophisticated and more susceptible to intensive sales practices than more affluent customers, " according to its prospectus.
"Intensive sales practices do not mean high-pressure sales, " Brayfield said. "Intensive merely means giving a special effort or certain emphasis."

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Daily News (New York)

July 20, 2000, Thursday

PRIZE SEEKERS BEWARE OF TIME-SHARE OFFERINGS

BYLINE: BY ASA AARONS

SECTION: NEW YORK NOW; Pg. 62 ASK ASA

LENGTH: 380 words

Maureen Arscott wonders whether there's a car at the end of the drive to Massachusetts - or just a waste of fuel.
The New York woman has been trying to decide ever since she received a call from someone at Silverleaf Resorts, a Dallas-based vacation time-share company.
A vacation time-share gives the owner the right to use vacation property for a limited period over a specified number of years.

"I was told I won a car, but that I would have to travel to Massachusetts to collect the prize, " Arscott explained.
Why Massachusetts?
It's the home of Oak in Spruce, one of Silverleaf's 22 resorts nationwide.
The one thing Arscott is assured of finding there is a sales staff eager to tell her about the merits of the vacation property.
According to the Better Business Bureau in Fort Worth, Tex., Silverleaf sends letters offering one of several free awards to consumers who agree to attend a sales presentation.
Not all the consumers have been satisfied.
The BBB reports the company has been the subject of complaints alleging misleading or high-pressure sales tactics.
Other consumers have complained about the award they received at sales presentations.
The BBB added that most complaints have been answered, but not always to the customer's satisfaction.
If you receive an award letter or a call, it doesn't mean you've won a contest.
Though you will receive a gift if you attend the sales presentation, the chances that you will receive a major prize, such as a car or cash, are very slim, the bureau warned.
It found that most consumers receive a package for 10 one-day holidays, which allows use of resort facilities during the day only.
Overnight accommodations and transportation are not included.
Ed Lahart, a vice president at Silverleaf, could not confirm that Arscott won a car.
The company described the call as a solicitation to tour the property and not a guarantee of a specific prize.
Tomorrow: Are time-shares good investments?
Asa Aarons is a consumer reporter who appears on WNBC-TV, Channel 4, News. His Daily News column appears Mondays, Tuesdays, Thursdays and Fridays. Send your questions to: Ask Asa, P.O. Box 3310, New York, N.Y. 10116, or E-mail him (DNconsumer@aol.com). Questions can be answered only through this column.

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Always First Come First Serve...Simple

Put them on the deed. $100 fee to do this but you have to go through the deed dept.

We were some of the original owners at Holly Lake back in the 80's. We have used the facilities quite a lot thru the years, appreciated that they were kept clean altho they have, of course, gotten pretty old just like we have but that was okay. We have bonus time which worked well for us since we work shifts, farm, etc and don't have regularly scheduled vacations like some people. We felt the maintenance/tax fees were reasonable. HOWEVER, since selling out the Holiday Inn Resorts things have changed drastically...they no longer work with you on scheduling, essentially tell you to talk to the computer, leave us alone. Ex: Our daughter is not on our deed (she was born after we bought) but they have always let us use one weekend per year at The Villages for her to use during a yearly business trip she makes...no problem. This year, I made the reservation, put her name on it as usual, and when she went to check they would not let her in since her name was not on the deed. She called me, I talked to the desk...nope, no way, Holiday won't let us do that any more. They turned them away (late at night, little children, middle of nowhere) then said I would be charged $50 no-show fee and could make any kind of reservation after that until it was paid. ALSO...the maintenance fees have gone up astronomically...I now pay $90 a month. It's more than we can afford now that we are retired; besides that, we are no longer able to travel. If our kids can't go there without us standing at the desk vouching for them, it's useless to them. We had wanted to keep the property for our kids/grandkids to continue using...they've grown up there...but we are now trying to figure out a way to get out of this without ruining our credit.
ANY SUGGESTIONS?

You shouldn't use people s full names, it just seems that you are on a smear campaign. However that all sounds very stressful. I had a similar experience with Rci.

I got my dumb waste of time share from Silverleaf back in 2006. I just now was able to give it back. I tried to list is with yet again another let us help you for sale by owner junk and more money for nothing. I have now learned to not pay up front for something you HOPE to see later on in life and to just pay for my trip when I want to go on one. :) So im happy to not have to see a letter from the dumb Silverleaf no e-mail no calls to update no nothing from no one. I t cost me a lot of money but boy did I learn from it. So now I hope folks take the time to write what others have gone through and to not follow in our mistakes.

I am in the same boat you are or were. Did you stop paying or did you just keep paying? I don't know what to do either?

How they are still in business I just dont know.

I would be too. You paid for your timeshare and get to enjoy it. Not like the others who pay and pay and pay some more. Im glad we can warn people to be very sure what they get themselves into when buying a timeshare. Read into timeshare before you buy one yourself world. Take care

We have been getting the same calls constantly every day, glad to read these posts & know who these people really are. All I can do is tell my kids NOT to answer the phone because I don't want to pay extra on my phone bill for a call blocker.

If you quit, Silverleaf also refuses to pay your final bonuses ($$ for getting people to tour resorts) which are hard to get! I had close to $200.00 missing from my final paycheck because of that...which was also sent to me over a month after quitting...

Silver Leaf is a definite rip off.

How do you give back the timeshare? I need details.

I could not sale it, could not get anyone dumb enough to take it from me, so I gave it back to them. The best thing I ever did. So what I lost money. LOTS of it for that matter. But Im free to not go to anymore dumb [censor] update meeting. We are almost 2011, send me e-mail update Silverleaf! No we all know what they update you. To up sale you. They just keep raping our pocket books. I hope other keep on reading before they buy something that sounds too good to be true. Hang in there and keep your head high. One day we can fight this, for now we give it back and walk away a bigger person. Have a good day. Feel free to call or e-mail me.

Hi i am Carolyn and i came across your reply about a Silverleaf owner who had a question about of what to do to dispose the timeshare. I share the same problem with you. Our timeshare is paid years ago, but we stopped paying the dues last Jan but 2 days ago we received a foreclosure letter. As much as I don't want to, i am now pressured to send the entire amount of dues for this year just so our credit won't be affected, but what other alternative do we have. Any input will be appreciated. Thanks. Email me at carpwes65@hotmail.com

Hello, I hope I can answer some of your questions with the dumb thing we all got our self in with Silverleaf. You paid for the timeshare. Then for the REST of your life you will owe what they call HOA fees. If you do not pay they miss up your credit. You can only hope to sale it, like I have been trying since 2008 with no luck. Or give it back to them. You will lose all the money you put in it but you will be free of them once and for all. All you can do is to pray. Im in the same boat as you, only I pay them so my name & credit are nice and clean. It makes me so mad that I have to pay for something I dont even use. :-( You take care and e-mail at Raluca.Saturn@gmail.com if you want to talk more about this. I really want to find a better way for us all. There has to be hope out there.

We had the same feeling in our stomach and decided to cancel the next day. Our contract had a three day cancellation clause and we took it. I can't believe how big of a bullet we dodged. I hope someone in my position can read this and realize they can cancel in the first three days. BTW they told us that weekends count as days, I don't know how true that is.
We went to a pitch in Dec 2011. Very hard sales pitch. I didn't want to buy anything, I didn't want to spend any money, and yet they got me to sign. We were there from 9 am to 2:30 pm without lunch, and without them saying why don't you get something to eat and we'll meet back here. They certainly didn't offer us anything to eat either. It's all part of breaking a person down to the point where they'll do anything to leave. OH and by the way, the whole time your there they will try to convince you that its the only way to vacation and save money. Guess what I can save more money by not going on vacation every year for a week any certainly by not committing to a contract.

we just got back from a four hour episode at a silverleaf resort and everybody was so nice and the deal sounded like a no brainer we are a family of seven and the cost of vacation seemed so much cheaper than what we spend normally. But my husband and I left still with kind of that sick feeling in our stomach asking did we do the right thing? Now reading these reviews I feel like maybe we have been conned. Is this really a scam?

I have recently encountered the same thing. The sales reps tell you one thing and hand you literature that says one thing and then you find out down the road that it says something different in the owner's manual. I am a Diamond club member and they tell you that if you become a diamond member by buying a second week, you will receive many benefits which does not happen. The sales practices are as close to "bait and switch" as you can imagine. I am an owner with everything paid and get almost nothing for my annual dues!

Since you worked there, do you know if they truly can harm your credit report? Would love to get out of contract, and have always been honest in business deals, but I'm seriously considering not paying on the loan anymore. I've read that some people have just stopped paying and exeprienced no damaging credit reports. Is this true?

I have stopped paying and continue to get letters and phone calls from Orange Lakes. I contacted them for 4 months following Harvey and never received a response. Told them to foreclose on the property because it was worthless per one of the high pressure salesman, and there were deceptive trade practices regarding the original sale. I am 74 and cannot throw good money after bad. I have my presidential almost paid for, but I DO NOT CARE. This is property so they need to take it back. I am interested in the class action suit that I keep hearing about. They are using timeshare properties for vacation clubs and timeshare owners have none of the benefits of the vacation club unless they spend thousands more to get points!

I tried to work with them because I was divorced and unemployed. At that time they said there was nothing they could do. I've been too worried about keeping my home than messing with them. It has been 20 months. They reported my late payments to Experian this month and just the late payments, no on-time payments from the previous years. When my now ex husband and I visited one of the properties, he was very, very disappointed with the way it was maintained. He was feeling sick and the sales managet wouldnt let us leave the sales office. To top it off, we all went home sick.

Class-action lawsuit recommended against SilverLeaf.

I received a silverleaf guest card with a $40.00 value ( supposedly ) on it and when I went to use it, the card was rejected for no funds available! the tracking # [protected], this card has never been used before and I would like for the $40.00 value to be put back onto the card or there will be serious consequences to bare! My name is Carla Gregg and can be reach at this phone # [protected] at any given time! So please call, email, or do whatever you are supposed to do to refund my $40.00 ! I'm sorry to have to contact you guys with this mess, but it must be corrected ASAP! I expect a response from you about this matter, so please stay in touch, I certainly will! Thank-You for your time, Sincerely, Ms. Carla Gregg

Joined back in 2008 for the trial version which gave us a week of free vacation at one of the resorts, had to have emergency surgery so we called them to let them know & they said it wasn't a problem that we could still use it. Well surprise - surprise we still didn't get it even to this date. They still call wanting us to come to a meeting to discuss the issue so far we have been to quite a few with no results, now they say we have to buy the time share in order to receive our week. My husband & I have told them to quit calling but they don't and it is the same lies every time. Beware people of their false claims ..

Like many of you who have posted. My mother and I have been scamed by silverleaf resort as well. The also told us to upgrade to the diamond program to use as much as we would like. Everytime we try to book not available. If anyone has any advice or would like to participate in bringing justice to these crooks, please contact me at j.bramble27@yahoo.com. Thanks

Any update on those who stopped paying?

I am having the same problems with silverleaf. I plan to file a 1099-c with the IRS and a 1096. 1099-c is cancellation of debt and the 1096 is a form needed to file the 1099-c.
From what I understand one should receive a treasury check for the amount of your timeshare. This should solve the issues.

Please include me to your list

Please include me in your list.

As with almost all properties these days, timeshares are not easy to sell. There are few incentives for buyers and even less demand. With so many tens of thousands of timeshares available, it’s difficult to find someone willing to take on ownership. Most people looking at the timeshare resales market know the truth about timeshares being poor investments, having many fees and the difficulty in getting rid of them making it extremely difficult to sell even during good times, but you can still give it away. This is a good article on how to give away a timeshare:

http://www.timesharescam.com/blog/160-how-to-give-away-a-timeshare/

We took the 90 minute tour...you know, the one that took 4 hours in real life.We are smart consumers who prefer money in the bank over material possessions.
They say no pressure, but you deserve the pressure if you believe they will not pressure you:. Sitting for the sales pitch, listening to the deal, I looked around and realized we were being herded like cattle.. If it is too good to be true, it usually is folks'. This timeshare business is well crafted. The salesman made comments to my husband such as, " you know these vacations will really strengthen your marriage, . Your little boy isn't getting any younger:." Puh-lease!. He said he preferred a no over a "we need to think about it, " and that is a pressuring sales tactic...not to mention a preposterous demand for the truth from someone who tells half-truths for a living. If you read this forum before visiting, just stay away. Yes, we received free incentives for taking the tour. However, we drove three hours to take the tour. I don't feel guilty. No hard-working, honest, middle class family deserves what they are selling, and that is ice cubes to Eskimos. I recommend you to read this article on how to give away a timeshare, I hope this helps:

http://www.timesharescam.com/blog/160-how-to-give-away-a-timeshare/

I just canceled the 18month with free vacation. When I went to hand deliver the notice of cancelation she got so pissed she started to act like she had no class! Now I'm afraid they won't cancel the account and I'm going to be fighting with them! This place is so messed up I feel bad for those who took out the timeshare! They say oh you won't see surprise raises or you will be able to come out for 50.00 buck. Didn't I just pay you 1000.00 and you treating me like I'm Renting a hotel.. It's just truly a scam!

I am also willing to join, these people really threw out a bunch of lies. What they verbally agreed to and the actual contract are different. I wanted to get into something like this, but not get conned into it. Let me know, cdiablo77@msn.com.

I am more than willing to join you! I kept all of my documentation that the salesman gave to prove that it was all a lie. I even made the salesman sign a sheet stating my usage, only to find it was all still a lie.

How would you like to go about contacting each other?

i use to work in the call center in north richland hills, TX. these people are all crooks! Most managers and divisionals use drugs. i even know a divisional john h who sold weed in the building. i did cocaine with phillip h in the bathroom, he is now a senior divisional mgr in arlington. i also seen many other drug transactions in this company. i had to get out. they care nothing for the customer, and use high pressure sales to get you to go to a even more high pressure sales pitch about time share. oh yeah the gifts you get, , good luck using the trips, , you have to travel tues-thurs and no holidays or peak times. so just remember the people on the other end are more than likely on drugs and please do not purchase or even go to a timeshare to visit, , , you will be sorry!