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Writing it again because of one ugly word I used in the last one so not having got through. This company used to employ me for 2 months. Already so much have I written on them that I don't feel like repeating myself. To cut the story short, they use "vulnerable" people to make money for themselves (e.g. longterm unemployed or foreigners as me who apparently have lower rights) and not pay them the due wages and bully them.

They run an ongoing recruitment process which is a mockery at the word "recruitment". Then after a few days 90%resign not getting paid. The others cherish hope to earn good money and strive still on. They can use every excuse in order to avoid payment of the wages.

For example their T&C's state that after you had visited the property, you must prepare fully formatted blunder-free Excel version of the inventory in 24 hours, and also send it with the pictures. Which is in most case not physically possible when you are given a couple of estates to visit a day. So you travel round london 9am-9pm and then you are "obliged" to sit and work through the night on your reports (remember - any blunder as even small misspelling can exclude you from paying in 100% and so can also the lack of photos or photos being not ideal - at their discretion). Next day to work remember!

If you have submitted e.g. 79 reports for the month behind you and you still are behind with a single one, or you don't have a set of pics for any one of the 80 lets say jobs, you will not get paid for the whole month. You will never see a payslip whatsoever. They give you small advances (as they call them) for survival - 150 pounds a week or every two weeks.

By the way, "advances" are money that are not yet due to workers (if you were paid for the last month and before the end of another). After money's due (after 1st month) the cash pays cannot be called advances if the 1st month wages wasn't fully paid out, isn't it? They are installments of money that's already been due to you for some time. And I had to beg them for these "installments" because I said I had no money for tickets to get round to properties and for food and rent.

The issue is now investigated by the employment tribunal. They will probably issue a default payment order. This is not it. Andrew (boss) want to sue me and get back of all those "advances" which asa whole amount to 1290 pounds and he somehow figured out himself the sum of 2000!

This is not it. I was multiple times called on my mobile and intimidated including using swearwords.

Also, he has many times blackmailed me that my payslip will not be done unless I finish this report or the other (but eventually he did not keep his promise when i did those reports). Those behaviors when I reported them to Jobcentre lady were described by her simply as harassment and bullying at work. There are proper paragraphs for it in the law!

Of course the excuse that I shouldn't have been paid those advances he came up with now is that i did not submitted my jobs in 24 hours time (above) and several of the jobs lacked pictures (which delay and lack of pictures he didn't mind AT ALL ALTOGETHER WHATSOEVER before my struggle for my due money with him started thru the Empl.Trib.). I urge you not to try start working for him and if you are an estate agency, I leave it to your wisdom and consideration whether you want to place orders with them for inventory makes or not.

I would better not if I were you. I know the inventory clerk of theirs are very good (me for example) but remember - it's a sly-very based company!

Update by Raphael
Jan 26, 2008 7:09 am EST

Jean Baptiste, are you considering legal action?

Update by Raphael
Apr 30, 2008 11:38 am EDT

wow I can see that the list of the wronged is gradually and continually increasing!
Darren Russell? Yes, it is definiately Andrew Carlton a few years ago on the picture.

Who would suspect they were employed by a crook and criminal.

And good news - Employment Tribunal issued me with a default judgemnt of late, let's see if he doesn't ignore even this one!

Update by Raphael
Jan 25, 2009 3:46 pm EST

I only wanted to say that Mr. Carlton has finally paid Darnell (he wasn't procrastinating very much) but he is still avoiding to pay the ordered money from the Employment Tribunal to me.

As I said at the beginning I was born in Poland and as a non-English person I was and am treated by him in the same way the non-white British people are, ie. worse than all the white-English employees (I don't have anything against them, but I do hate Mr. Carlton as the only English person [if only he IS English as I heard rumours he is of foreign descent, Middle East, I suggest?])

I have called the ### several times. He obviously "went on holiday" to Seychelles. Well, yes, he eventually economised sme money by failure to pay me.

I am sending the enforcement to the Bow County Court tomorrow.

Remember - do not trade with this fraudster, do not start working for him, don't be involved with him in any way if you want to stay on the safe side, steer clear of Mr. Darren Russell (Mr. Andrew Carlton), Mr. Davidson, Property Concepts UK in 10-16 Tiller Road E14 8PX, and Apple Properties and Homes Direct.

I have also made an appeal that the discrimination and bullying case be proceeded with.

I have too strong and irrefutable proofs to let him go.

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Annette Croneen
Lewisham, GB
Mar 28, 2009 2:39 am EDT

Yes, I agree about all this. Fortunately I was warned about them by the clerk I shadowed who comes from the same area I do otherwise I would have been sucked in by it as well. However I have to say I really liked the work so much and would still be working for them today except I could see that it was a con and I would always struggle to get my money out of them. One thing I really didnt like was that you had to use your own money for transport and telephone calls and it would take them more than a month to refund you.

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Raphael
Poole, GB
Mar 16, 2009 1:37 pm EDT
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Oh btw. I would just forget. Since Mr. Carlton was 15 days late with my recompense from ET, I asked him to pay me 2.50 interest. Wise of him that he followed my kind advice!

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Raphael
Poole, GB
Mar 16, 2009 1:33 pm EDT
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No, I beg to differ, David. Kristina excels everyone with stupidity. But at least she's a pretty blondie.
How much in 1 - 10 scale?
-273 Celsius

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david carpenter
Birmingham, GB
Feb 26, 2009 5:27 am EST

Karim you are the stupid one you mug.

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kkah
, GB
Feb 25, 2009 7:03 pm EST

You very stupid people...your following false leads created by PCUKs office staff

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Andrew Carlton
, GB
Feb 25, 2009 9:14 am EST

Carlton Properties - COMING SOON in Greenwich in the same place where Apple Properties used to be !

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PremierHse
, GB
Nov 07, 2008 12:39 pm EST
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Everyone - please remember to put Craig Davison on all legal application as he is Director of the Company - you will need to put Darren Russell also known as Andrew Carlton

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Richard2
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Nov 07, 2008 6:54 am EST

No worries on that score I can assure you 100% that I will get the monies due with or without bailiffs and I have never accepted a cheque of him thus far and won't now. He well knows himself that I won't take his excuses/lies/stalling. I would also urge anyone who has monies outstanding from him to go to tribunal as well, as long as you have all the evidence and know your stuff you should get your money. I think everything has gone quiet recently because there were several claimants all at once, I'm unaware of what happened with the others apart from mine and Raf's though.

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PremierHse
, GB
Nov 07, 2008 5:00 am EST
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I'm really pleased for you - I would try eveything to get your money back as I know he will try and stall paying (as we all know this is what he does best) - I would get those bailiffs in asap remember don't accept any cheques as he has a habit of dishing them out right at the very last second to avoid bailiffs etc - settle no more than a BANK CHAPS payment (same day) if he does not agree to this you know there are going to be additional problems.

Its shame everything has gone all quiet with this company that no one is doing anything to stop this man and Mr Davidson from trading - he just bankrupts people and moves on to the next company.

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Darnell Matheson
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Nov 07, 2008 4:44 am EST

No Alex, he did not turn up as I knew he wouldn't even though the judge ordered him to as they tried to get both mine and raf's hearing postponed as Liz was on holiday! However he did send another staff member and his lawyer although it was a pretty wasted journey for them as they were not allowed to speak in the hearing due to Mr Russell not responding to either of our claims back in March. He is now trying to say he "might" appeal although they have no legal basis on which to appeal whatsoever. You can only appeal on a point of law. If he does not pay I have already instructed bailiffs so I will get the money due.

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PremierHse
, GB
Nov 07, 2008 3:55 am EST
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CONGRATULATIONS !
Did Mr Russell turn up ?
Hopefully you will get paid soon

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Darnell Matheson
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Nov 06, 2008 6:27 am EST

The judge has awarded me all of the unpaid wages and then some, he has also awarded Raf his unpaid wages - so we await the payment from Mr Russell.

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PremierHse
, GB
Oct 31, 2008 9:50 am EDT
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and you should see Mr Russell on a come down around Wednesday's

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Richard2
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Oct 31, 2008 5:18 am EDT

If you think Kristina is ugly, you need to see her without make up on, its frightening!

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Richard2
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Oct 30, 2008 12:27 pm EDT

My focus is firmly on Mr Russell/Davidson don't worry about that but I happen to also be aware that certain people in that office including kristina are little weasels and like to lick ### because they think that one day Russell will make them a manager or something, they are very much mistaken. Anyway I happen to know that Russell is in for one big surprise very shortly.he he

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PremierHse
, GB
Oct 30, 2008 9:37 am EDT
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The focus should not be on the staff but the men running the company ie Mr Russell and Mr Davidson - 2 people who seem to manage to treat people the way they do and get away with it. They enjoy expensive lifestyles which innocent people/staff pay for and now 2 new companies to boost their ego's and more staff/public treated wrongly.

We should focus on the people that run the company, the people that lie and cheat and hide behind false names.

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pcuk
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Oct 29, 2008 1:21 pm EDT

No she aint left yet, the ugly mutt.

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Richard2
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Sep 29, 2008 11:16 am EDT

Makes me laugh when i see 247 response agency advertising for an inventory processor (in Docklands) salary £15-18, 000. So has kristina left I wonder?

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PremierHse
, GB
Sep 29, 2008 7:04 am EDT
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I find they don't respond, they investigate it and then go from there - I had to actually speak to one of the reporters advertised on the inside cover of the paper just to put my piece forward - I think its best everyone follows suit and actually call them

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Richard2
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Sep 29, 2008 6:58 am EDT

Found it. Have also sent my concerns to the wharf newspaper but they haven't responded it so don't know what there take is on it.

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PremierHse
, GB
Sep 29, 2008 6:47 am EDT
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If you goto www.google.com put in hips24 then it will show up and click on the link

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Richard2
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Sep 29, 2008 6:41 am EDT

Can't log onto this site is it even up and running yet?

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PremierHse
, GB
Sep 29, 2008 5:47 am EDT
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Looks like Mr Russell and Mr Davidson has been busy setting up more companies to rip people/staff off:

HIPS24 ltd - www.hips24.com
Safety Reports & Repairs Ltd

This is where your money has been going setting these companies up and if you look at the first website it actually says contact PCUK

I'm sure give it a couple of months and the staff of these companies will be complaining about non payment etc

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Darnell Matheson
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Sep 20, 2008 5:22 am EDT

I will get back to you on that richard, I currently have 3 witnesses that I know won't let me down so we will see how it pans out.

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Richard2
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Sep 19, 2008 10:26 am EDT

If you need a witness, please let me know.

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Darnell Matheson
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Sep 19, 2008 4:47 am EDT

Well I have not named Davidson as yet, because one i've never met the man and I didn't even know that he was the director until recently but no matter I have named pcuk and Russell so that will do for starters and anyway they are not even allowed to attend the hearing because they did not respond to my claim within time and indeed they still have not responded months down the line so they are not allowed to defend the claim whatsoever.

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P Curtis
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Sep 18, 2008 4:04 pm EDT

Totally agree with you Darnell but you MUST make sure you get Mr Craig Davidson there at the tribunal aswell as he is the director of the comany and in theroy his responsibility aswell as Mr Russell's.

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Darnell Matheson
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Sep 18, 2008 3:28 am EDT

Regardless of whether there is a connection between Darren and Apple Properties his actions with Property concepts are bad enough and he will very shortly be paying for those actions at upcoming tribunal hearings (thats if he turns up). Its strange that his solicitors are based in Manchester, even though he is based in London, yet he still denies that he and Andrew Carlton are one and the same person and if I am correct Homes Direct were based in Manchester - funny that!.

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Richard2
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Sep 17, 2008 4:01 am EDT

So charlie are you saying that apple properties is not connected to Darren or that we don't know?

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Richard2
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Sep 17, 2008 3:31 am EDT

I have sent an e-mail to the wharf as well concerning Mr Russell

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Sid M
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Sep 16, 2008 11:17 am EDT

Interesting stuff,

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P Curtis
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Sep 16, 2008 10:47 am EDT

Hi - just spoken to the lovely lady on reception and she said that they left 3 months ago maybe they have moved around the corner to:

APPLE PROPERTIES (LONDON) LIMITED Number [protected]
Address 35 BEAUFORT COURT ADMIRALS WAY,
SOUTH QUAY WATERSIDE,
LONDON,
E14 9XL Company Status Active

and RYAN who is director of the above also owns Wilson & Co Property Management Ltd who is registered to Tiller Road which was incorporated in April 2008

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richard2
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Sep 16, 2008 10:43 am EDT

Yes I will but do you know the Docklands main reception number as I don't and i'm trying to google it with no luck so far?

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Sid M
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Sep 16, 2008 10:36 am EDT

Yes it does, but do you know that Docklands Bussiness Center houses many companies, apple properties will have its own number not connected to the main reception as does Property Concepts . I can not call the centre myself, the reception staff may remember me, but it will be good for one of you guys to check it out.

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richard2
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Sep 16, 2008 10:29 am EDT

well if you get a chance have a look, just google apple properties it is the first one that comes up. You'll see that it is very similar to pcuks bt don't ring the number as no one ever answers.

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Sid M
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Sep 16, 2008 10:24 am EDT

I will do that too, no I have not seen the Apple Properties website, best thing to do is call Docklands business centre to see if they are still running. The girl who works on the reception desk is very helpfull and knows every company ever run from that building.

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richard2
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Sep 16, 2008 10:21 am EDT

I will do that charlie.

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Sid M
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Sep 16, 2008 10:21 am EDT

I'm still a temp so I gusse a weeks worth is alot to me. I am very sorry for those people who where ripped of by him. If i where not paid directly by office Angels for my work done, then i would not have been paid either. Andrew/Darren did not pay his office Angels bill and had to be taken to court. I do not know the outcome of this case as I no longer work under Office angels

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richard2
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Sep 16, 2008 10:19 am EDT

Sid M have you seen the apple properties website and if so what are your thoughts on it?

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P Curtis
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Sep 16, 2008 10:17 am EDT

I have forwarded my thoughts to The Wharf newspaper - I strongly suggest everyone else follows newsdesk@wharf.co.uk