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Property Concepts UKAn employer severely mistreating and harassing employees!

Writing it again because of one ugly word I used in the last one so not having got through. This company used to employ me for 2 months. Already so much have I written on them that I don't feel like repeating myself. To cut the story short, they use "vulnerable" people to make money for themselves (e.g. longterm unemployed or foreigners as me who apparently have lower rights) and not pay them the due wages and bully them.

They run an ongoing recruitment process which is a mockery at the word "recruitment". Then after a few days 90%resign not getting paid. The others cherish hope to earn good money and strive still on. They can use every excuse in order to avoid payment of the wages.

For example their T&C's state that after you had visited the property, you must prepare fully formatted blunder-free Excel version of the inventory in 24 hours, and also send it with the pictures. Which is in most case not physically possible when you are given a couple of estates to visit a day. So you travel round london 9am-9pm and then you are "obliged" to sit and work through the night on your reports (remember - any blunder as even small misspelling can exclude you from paying in 100% and so can also the lack of photos or photos being not ideal - at their discretion). Next day to work remember!!!

If you have submitted e.g. 79 reports for the month behind you and you still are behind with a single one, or you don't have a set of pics for any one of the 80 lets say jobs, you will not get paid for the whole month. You will never see a payslip whatsoever. They give you small advances (as they call them) for survival - 150 pounds a week or every two weeks.

By the way, "advances" are money that are not yet due to workers (if you were paid for the last month and before the end of another). After money's due (after 1st month) the cash pays cannot be called advances if the 1st month wages wasn't fully paid out, isn't it? They are installments of money that's already been due to you for some time. And I had to beg them for these "installments" because I said I had no money for tickets to get round to properties and for food and rent.

The issue is now investigated by the employment tribunal. They will probably issue a default payment order. This is not it. Andrew (boss) want to sue me and get back of all those "advances" which asa whole amount to 1290 pounds and he somehow figured out himself the sum of 2000!!!

This is not it. I was multiple times called on my mobile and intimidated including using swearwords.

Also, he has many times blackmailed me that my payslip will not be done unless I finish this report or the other (but eventually he did not keep his promise when i did those reports). Those behaviors when I reported them to Jobcentre lady were described by her simply as harassment and bullying at work. There are proper paragraphs for it in the law!

Of course the excuse that I shouldn't have been paid those advances he came up with now is that i did not submitted my jobs in 24 hours time (above) and several of the jobs lacked pictures (which delay and lack of pictures he didn't mind AT ALL ALTOGETHER WHATSOEVER before my struggle for my due money with him started thru the Empl.Trib.). I urge you not to try start working for him and if you are an estate agency, I leave it to your wisdom and consideration whether you want to place orders with them for inventory makes or not.

I would better not if I were you. I know the inventory clerk of theirs are very good (me for example) but remember - it's a sly-very based company!

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  • Sm
    SMSupport Nov 03, 2014
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    We apologize for the frustration and your experience. We are looking into this matter and will have someone reach out to you.

    Thank you,
    HASupport

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  • Is
    Isthisstillhappening Oct 29, 2014

    He's at it again...
    http://www.taylorharcourt.com/company/
    Oakleigh Maintenance — Oakleighs Maintenance Limited
    http://www.servicemagic.co.uk/d/566340--blue-arrow-trading-ltd-t-a-property-plus-group/
    is this still Darren Russell's number? [protected]

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  • Ba
    balh Mar 26, 2014

    Im in the same boat mate, where can I find him? Hes owes me £2500, I will give u £500 if u help me get it back. [email protected]

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  • Hr
    hrpuffnstuff Mar 17, 2014

    when are you IDIOTS (yes ALL of you are STUPID) look at the guy owed £9, 000 come on after the guy had not paid the first weeks salary what should you do?...go
    Even if the guy promised to pay you at the end of the month and didnt would you still carry on working for him?...NO (unless you are stupid)
    He owed me 5k for 3 weeks work (I was considered to be his right hand man in the filed)
    I went into his office and held him hostage, until he paid me in CASH (Yes he has bundles of the stuff in his office so paying by cash is easy for him.
    He's a gay boy, the female side of the partnership so he's very soft and if you shout at him he cries. Just do what i did, threaten him with a beating...you'll get your money promise. How he gets away with it is that he KNOWS you lot are softer than him, and by reading all your whinging...he's RIGHT.
    All you have to do is some of you meet up, and go a knocking on his door. his staff wont do a thing to stop you taking Andrew/Russell/John into his office and holding him hostage, espically JO...she acts tough but is a scared as a mouse.
    So STOP moaning and go and get your money...if you're MAN enough...I did...and I went on my own

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  • Hr
    hrpuffnstuff Mar 17, 2014

    welllll
    what can I say

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  • Me
    MeerkatRecruitment Feb 08, 2014
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    www.propertyplusgroup.com and I hear he's also going by the name of John now

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  • Me
    MeerkatRecruitment Feb 08, 2014
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    Looks like he's off again under the name Property Plus Group and has even had the nerve to send me a marketing email from this new company signed off by a former employee who no longer works there because he walked due to not being paid!!!

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  • Iw
    iworkedhere Feb 05, 2014
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    I do hope he has closed down - he has destroyed so many people and put so many out of work. Best of luck getting your monies people - check with the tax and NI office to ensure you have had these paid

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  • Dp
    DPSG Feb 05, 2014

    The word on the grapevine is that they have now closed down...about time but a real shame for anyone owed money still

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  • Me
    MeerkatRecruitment Feb 03, 2014
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    Ive managed to get more information about this conman: Andrew / Darrens home address is: 734, Providence Wharf, London, E14 9PJ and his mobile number is: [protected]

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  • Fe
    Ferr Jan 29, 2014
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    Guys i got a lot off information about this idiot i had working for him and he owes me 9000.00£ and i got details i have a few client how they coming together to report him i need just your help to do so my email is [email protected]

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  • Pr
    Prasad Deshpande Jan 29, 2014

    Hello,

    These people have taken £17000 from me for full materials and 50% labour cost. I read reviews about oakleighs on ratedpeople.com
    and somehow did not come across this forum - complete fool.
    The owner Andrew is not contactable and no one is answerable to me. I am in a distressed situation and not sure what to do..
    I have to take legal action but not sure whether i will get my money back...and advise is [email protected]

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  • Se
    Sectar Jan 22, 2014

    zehraemin your email is not working as I've just tried and gotten a bounce back. Please contact me asap regarding this! Thanks!

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  • Se
    Sectar Jan 22, 2014

    Still need to get my money from Andrew.

    Email me on [email protected] if you would like to find this guy and get what is rightfully ours. This is my personal email so please please contact me here and not via this site.


    Thank you all!!

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  • Wa
    wantmymonies Dec 26, 2013

    I TOTALLY AGREE HE HAS JUST ROBBED ME £2000.00 PLEASE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO GO SORT IT PLEASE EMAIL ME([email protected])
    AND WE WILL PAY HIM A VISIT.I KNOW WHERE THEY ARE NOW
    ;

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  • Ze
    zehraemin Dec 20, 2013

    i have worked for them for 3 years since nov to jan 2013 and am currently per suing court proceedings. If anyone needs to contact me for statements or any information my email is [email protected] Liz collies and Theresa Parkes can be found on Facebook although they haven't been much help.

    If we can all hare information we might be able to stop them. They are still recruiting under the name churchill butler

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  • Me
    MeerkatRecruitment Dec 03, 2013
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    £21k owed by Oakleighs Maintenance, can anyone please give me advice on how to get my money please..? I have tried to be as flexible as possible and now after been given the nod to search for a Darren Russell I come across all of this. I'm normally a good judge of charactor but I have let my family down so much by chasing the work with this guy

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  • Cr
    crumbs Apr 03, 2013

    £1000 - inventories - february / march
    love to know how they got my name !
    Liz Collis - Andrew Carlton - no morals

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  • Sc
    scoody Mar 22, 2013
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    they owe me 3, 000 just a bunch of robbers

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  • Ra
    Radko Mar 01, 2013

    Hi there,

    I run a cleaning company and have supplied this company (Churchill Butler Inventories) with cleaning services for the period January 2013 and February 2013. We did for them 25 jobs and after being told how we are going to be paid no monies were received in our bank account. Initially our point of contact was Liz Collis and also had an email from so called Andrew. After numerous phone calls and emails nobody replied to me or phoned back. I'm starting a process of suing them over unpaid invoices. I'll be glad if I can get to know other people mistreated by these ### and pay him a visit or report him to regulatory bodies.

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  • Jd
    jdjoy Feb 06, 2013

    I very much agree with the poor treatment of staff at oakleighs!
    Also for such a company that claims to have corporate clients and huge jobs going on, why are they asking customers for 100% up front on works?! But yet struggle to pay staff on time? And how is it that they can transfer money into your account straight away for materials with no hesitation but when it comes to wages you have to wait 10 days after invoice and even still they do not pay on time.
    I have a lot of points to raise with this company. They are not what they say. They do not have the man power to complete jobs they claim they can do.
    All the office staff work in the same room, opposite each other. When they want to get in touch with you they will text and call and email until they get a reply. But as soon as you have a problem with them, they're ridiculously shaddy and fail to reply to the emails and text messages and phone calls you send!
    I wouldn't recommend anyone to have work done by this company on the basis of they will rip you off. They charge between 50-70% on top of what the workers quote, when top London companies only charge 20-30%.

    They have an excuse for everything specially when it comes to money!
    Andrew whoever he is, just seems to be an absolute fool to think he can treat people the way he does and get away with it.
    I totally agree with getting watch dog involved.
    My self and at least 4 others have had trouble with this company as staff. We cover all trades and are taken for granted. The fact that you have to then spend hours upon hours filling out those reports after a quote at no extra pay apart from knowing that's 4 hours of your life your never getting back.
    It's one thing after another with these guys. And to be fair to everyone they need to compensate everyone who is having problems with them and get shut down.
    Rant over.

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  • Dp
    DPSG Jan 15, 2013

    Mr Qasim Mohammed Ishaq is a nominee Director and therefore has no idea of the running of the business and has no input into the business. The Business is run purely by Andrew Carlton

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  • Sh
    shaks Jan 14, 2013

    I'm glad I found this, interesting reading. I too am owed money just like many of you other posters.

    A quick check online and the director of oakleighs, castle white, addlefields etc is Mr Qasim Mohammed Ishaq. No idea who he is???

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  • Ol
    old time bard Aug 18, 2012

    he really is the pit of the world, but dont forget he had helpers. Andrew Bloom of masthaven finance being one...the guy will deny it but they were and maybe still are shareholders of the same companies. Dawn Wright his offsider, Paul Curtis a so called manager...and so the list goes on, all these people need arresting and putting behind bars. Its these people that have caused the world to go into such rot!!!

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  • El
    Eliot Ness Aug 17, 2012

    Conrad James?????? - What a joker Darren Russell / Andrew Carlton really is.
    Loving this page: http://cj.amboshosting.com/professional-cleaning/charter/ with:...
    'Honesty is imperative - we operate to the highest possible ethical standards.'

    Tell that to the unwitting staff you have used up Darren and the clients (corporate and consumer) that you happily rip off thinking that you're too clever to be caught.

    Apple Properties
    Homes Direct
    Property Concepts
    Addlefields
    Barlifields
    Oakleighs Maintenance
    Castle White Cleaning
    Churchill Butler Inventories
    Conrad James

    If you have/do work for any of the above, HMRC would like to hear from you as your tax and national insurance has never been paid although it will have been deducted by the company and no doubt spent on another new company website.
    i have a letter from the tax office asking me to contact them (which I have with great pleasure) and i know of at least 5 more people who have also received letters asking for details on the above. If you haven't received a letter, please take the time to contact your local tax office with your details. You are not liable for the payments, Darren Russell is, and HMRC need to know what he owes.

    Do you know how they finally caught Al Capone?
    The Tax Man cometh.

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  • Ga
    gakgak Aug 16, 2012

    Here's his latest thing:

    http://cj.amboshosting.com/

    Conrad James

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  • Se
    Sectar Aug 10, 2012

    Seriously someone please find me how to get a hold of this guy. I got his phone number and that's about it. Need to pay him a visit in person...

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  • Dp
    DPSG Jul 24, 2012

    It seems that he is now looking to fold all the existing companies. He has applied to have Oakleighs and Addlefields shut down which means that if he owes you money then you will be "whistling for it". You can apply to companies house to have this stopped if he owes you money. It seems that he wants to ditch Addlefields, Castle White, Churchill Butler and Oakleighs.

    Also, I have been contacted by a BBC TV Watchdog style prodcution company who would be interested in looking into this complete an utter crook in greater detail.

    "Hi,

    I was just following up on your post from earlier this year and I can't seem to find anything on Addlefields. I'd be very interested in speaking to any of thesse low paid workers that he has ripped off. Do you have any leads at all?

    Regards

    Des "

    If you are willing to tell your side of the story then either let me know or get in touch with the legalizer on this site or at the BBC.

    Time to close him down properly so everyone gets paid!

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  • Ga
    gakgak Jun 08, 2012

    Unbelievably I worked for this guy for a year. Initially he tried to get me to leave without paying me at all, but I was so desperately persistent I eventually got my first pay packet. From then on, two weeks out of every month were spent chasing the next pay packet, being told one thing then another, treated with offhand non-concern. He seems to have developed a tactic of maintaining a core of competent people who keep things ticking over (I ended up as one of those people), so he can continue with hiring new people to just not pay them, and get 8 weeks free work out of them before they decide to cut their losses and leave.

    I stayed so long because you're effectively trapped by working a month in hand. Often you would only get paid by going on strike. So if you quit, that bargaining chip is gone, so how would you get your last month's money? Eventually I came up with the lie that I was taking a sweet temp job two months, but when it finished could I pretty please have my job back? He bought it, and 5 weeks later when the last of what I was owed landed in my account, I sent him an email telling him to go and f*ck himself.

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  • Se
    Sectar Apr 11, 2012

    ROGE
    J_Z
    MAU2011

    Get in contact

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  • Se
    Sectar Apr 11, 2012

    Sorry I spammed the last 3 posts on purpose to start a new page to get my message noticed. This is a new chapter for me and I will be getting my money back. It has been 3 years, I have been on and off this case but now I am back for good. Anybody in the same boat read below!

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    Sectar Apr 11, 2012

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    Sectar Apr 11, 2012

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    Sectar Apr 11, 2012

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  • Se
    Sectar Apr 11, 2012

    Is anybody here still owed a payment? If you are owed anything get in touch with me via PM. I would love to gather up a small group and go pay him a visit.

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  • Se
    Sectar Apr 11, 2012

    I still have a payment that I am owed. I am down for giving this man a vist if anybody else would like to join. Would be a damn nice site to get a small group terrorising his offices until he realises what has hit him.

    If anybody wants to, send me a PM and we will go from there.

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  • Jz
    J_Z Mar 13, 2012

    Checked out the address : 145-157 St. John Street. Its a virtual office - 1000s of businesses have this address as their registered address if they used Made Simple Group to set up their comapny with Companies House. So not much use.

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  • Mi
    misterpool Mar 12, 2012

    Witch - what is the story about Andrew & mobsters? I'd be interested to know !!!

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  • Sk
    sknight2012 Mar 12, 2012

    FAO: Witch, in relation to your post I am indeed a real person. WR used to recruit for Churchill Butler until we realised how they were treating their staff, as a result they have been blacklisted by us and we have not recruited for them in over 6 months. If you require any further clarification please private message me.

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  • Wi
    Witch Mar 10, 2012

    Is anyone with Work Relief or Sarah Knight? Have you actually met her in person? Sarah Knight doesn't sound like a real name, it sounds like a company name...she doesn't ask for references & nor do Churchill Butler, I doubt the estate agents know that. Did anyone hear about those mobsters & Andrew? What about this Tenancy Transitions now?

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