After my first semester, still new to this whole university life style. I was doing great. I managed to keep...
Date of Problem Occurrence: 2/18/2012 DeVry University granted me a loan of $7, 000 that is for unsubsidized...
My list of complaints against DeVry/Keller is long but undistinguished. First and foremost is the fact that...
I sent many complaints to DeVry and to various legal agencies. I spoke to an attorney last Friday and...
Statement of facts:
On or about june, 2005, my son, upon high school graduation, was presented with a meager ($100.00) scholarship from the business department to attend devry university, pomona, california site.
Upon being tested and accepted to the university, we attended an open house, at which time, I believe, we completed the application process. All applicants were directed to the financial office where each family met with a financial counselor. It was at this time that we met with a financial counselor that I was advised that no student could attend this university without signing a federal student loan application. I informed my student and the counselor that I could not do that, as there was no way I could afford a loan. Our family was embroiled in a vicious domestic-violence divorce /child custody proceeding at the time and we were struggling to find a place to live at the time. It was my greatest desire for my son to attend the school of his choice for higher learning, and upon hearing this news we were both very concerned and upset.
The counselor then informed me that, while all students (Or their parents) were required to sign this loan application, that “no action would be taken unless it became necessary for tuition purposes” and that I would be “contacted for a meeting with the financial aid department before any loan application would be submitted.” the counselor also told me that this would not be a loan that I would ever have to pay back, so my concerns regarding a loan payback commitment were unfounded and if I did not sign the form, my son would not be permitted to attend devry university.
At this time, note that all of my children and myself were under the care of psychologists for domestic violence issues, and i, personally, was taking medication under the care of a psychiatrist for depression and post-traumatic stress syndrome. I was in no condition to enter into such a legal and binding contract, and only signed the loan document under extreme duress, under the pretense that it would not be submitted to any loan, bank, or financial agency of any kind, without first being notified for my personal authorization. This document was signed under great emotional duress.
During the course of my son’s attendance at devry, we moved several times as our lives had been threatened and I separated from my employment, as my former spouse was also employed by the same agency and in the same vicinity and my vehicle was being sabotaged in addition to the fact that I was receiving death threats.
As far as I can recall, I paid for my student’s supplies out of my personal bank account. My son was promised a personal lap-top computer as part of a normal process in attending devry (I did not own a computer at the time and it would have been necessary for my student to have one to complete his school work). My son informed me that after several weeks and conferring with other students, some who were in their 3rd and 4th years at the university, everyone was promised one, but no one he came into contact with had ever received one.
With our personal dilemma of homelessness, my son decided not to continue attending devry as it was very stressful to find and pay for transportation and school supplies while we were struggling to meet basic standard needs such as daily food and shelter. It was also very difficult to complete homework assignments, as he would have to go to someone else’s house to use their computer.
At some point after this, our financial circumstances forced me into bankruptcy. While in the bankruptcy process, I received a few letters from various agencies offering to take on my “student loan” at a discounted rate. I was also receiving various offers from the same types of companies, offering car loans and various other financial assistance. I attributed them to the bankruptcy filing and disregarded them, as I knew I did not have a student loan or a car loan and I knew very well that I could not, in good conscience, take
Out any type of loan knowing that I had no means with which to make any type of re-payment. I could not even pay my attorney, so he was taking all of my child support payments and I was not receiving any assistance of any kind.
A few years back, I received notice of a federal student loan default, which was very confusing to me. I contacted the company and they informed me that the loan was for my son’s attendance at devry university in pomona. I immediately contacted devry university.
Devry university refused to speak with me because my son was now an adult. I indicated that this was regarding a financial matter, and since he was a minor when he enrolled, and I was the person financially responsible for his attendance there, that I should be entitled to his financial records. Employees in the finance department at devry advised me to call back after a certain time, which I did. When I did call back, I was informed that no one could assist me in obtaining any financial accounting of my son’s records. I asked when a manager was going to be available and again, they told me to call back later, any future calls I made that day were immediately disconnected when I told them who I was and that I was still trying to find a financial accounting of my son’s records.
Following our phone call fiasco, it became clear to me that a personal appearance was necessary. My son and I went to devry’s financial office early the next morning. There were only two students (One male, one female) visible working in the office when we arrived, and I advised the young female of my situation, which was:
1) I was advised by devry’s financial counselor that no loan document would be processed without first consulting with me and obtaining my permission to submit the loan application to a financial agency;
2) I had paid for items with personal checks;
3) my student was promised, among other things, a personal lap-top computer;
4) unbeknownst to me, the loan application had been processed without me being contacted and without my permission;
5) the loan was now in default and I needed a financial accounting of how much money was attributed to my student during his attendance at devry, were we charged for a personal lap top computer, and if so, who received the computer and who received the benefits of monies sent to the school for my son.
The girl became very concerned and walked through a door into the back portion of the office, where I overheard muffled conversation between her and an obviously older male. She returned to the counter and stated that she could not release the information to me because of student privacy issues. I informed her that my student was there, ready to give his permission for me to obtain copies of all of his academic records from devry, including, and especially, his financial records. Once again, she retreated to the back office and I could hear an agitated older male voice giving her instruction. She came back to the counter and informed us that only she and another student were in the office at the time and the department manager was not going to return to the office for another half hour or so and that I should leave and come back later in the afternoon. I advised the girl that we had driven quite a way to come to resolve the matter and we would be happy to wait.
After approximately fifteen minutes, an older male came out of the back office, looked at us, and called the girl into his office. She again came out and said it would be best if we left our phone number and we would receive a phone call when someone could assist us. I informed her that the previous day I had made several phone calls requesting the information and after being hung up on several times, there was no other way to resolve this issue other than in person. She returned to the office, had another muted conversation, and returned to the counter area of the office, where she ignored us.
From that point on, we had waited for an additional 47 minutes when the man called the girl back into his office. She came out with keys and a large male student (Not the older man who had been speaking to her) and informed us that there had been an emergency and their office needed to close immediately. (Please note it had been very quiet in the office the entire time we were there and no other people had come into the office.) it was early afternoon (About 2:00pm) by this time. I told them I would be happy to wait, but was informed I would absolutely have to leave their office. I did not want to make a scene (I was not being disrespectful, I was only seeking records that were rightfully ours – we were both in a very depressed state and were not capable of “fighting, ” arguing, or becoming violent). My son and I waited outside the door of the financial office for another two hours or so until a security guard came to lock doors because classes were out for the day and all offices were closing (It was about 4:30 when we had to leave because the building was being locked up).
My emotional state at that point (Combined with the personal homeless/basic needs issues) was one of despair and great disappointment in the university, which had been portrayed as such an upstanding establishment. I left empty handed, and reported back to the financial agency that devry was unable to confirm that my student had ever received any financial assistance and as I was unaware the loan had been processed and with my present hardships, I was not able to assist them. I did not have the means to do so, but neither did I have proof that my student ever benefitted from the alleged loan.
In 2008, I received another notice and my son was on the phone with me while we talked to a female manager in the finance department. After three phone conversations with her, she relented and stated she would release my son’s records if he signed a release form. Of course, he consented, and she faxed the form, my student filled it out and returned it. We called her to confirm receipt, and she assured us she had received it and that she would fax the documents to us that afternoon. We never heard from them again and I did not have the emotional or physical wherewithal to continue requesting information from an agency which absolutely did not, for some reason, want us to see my son’s financial records.
I have not had any type of “normal” job where I received any type of “steady” paycheck since 2005, until I was offered my previous position and hired in december 2011. Now that I have been hired, I am getting harassed by phone calls from progressive financial services for my “defaulted” student loan, that no one can prove to me was ever utilized to benefit my student. As far as I know, devry took it upon themselves to submit the loan application without my permission and utilized the funds inappropriately. No one has yet disclosed to me the amount that was submitted to devry, where it was applied, or who benefited from it; and, since devry still refuses to release any records of any kind to me or to my student, I must question the validity of this loan.
Therefore, I respectfully state that:
Inasmuch as I was forced to sign the document under great emotional duress and threat by devry’s financial counselor that my student would not be permitted to attend without this document being signed as a “security” only; and,
Inasmuch as I pleaded with devry’s financial counselor that I could not sign this form as I had no means of repayment; and,
Inasmuch as I was emotionally incapacitated and under the care of mental health professionals at the time; and,
Inasmuch as devry’s financial counselor assured me this document would not be submitted to any loan, bank, or financial agency without first consulting with me and obtaining my authorization and permission; and,
Inasmuch as devry’s financial counselor assured me this document was only to assure my student enrollment at devry and it was not a loan I would ever have to repay; and
Inasmuch as under the circumstances, benefits of this loan were obtained by devry under false pretenses as stated above; and,
Inasmuch as devry refuses to provide or permit access to any financial records pertaining to this loan, or an accounting thereof,
I hereby contest the fact that I am being required to pay any amount as a repayment of, or payment to retrieve, the loan from default status.
Statement of facts: On or about june, 2005, my student, upon high school graduation was presented with a...
My partner and I lost our jobs. We tried to make arrangements with Devry University to pay my debt, but they refused to work with me. They wanted the full amount on the exact day it was due. I couldn't always do this, but I did the best I could. On June 27, 2012 I received the rudest phone call from some female demanding payment right then and there. I tried to explain that I had previously made arrangements to make my full and final payment to them the next day which was a payday for me. I told her I had an e-mail from Devry confirming this arrangement. Essentially she repeatedly called me a liar, so I hung up on her because she would not hear me. The payment was made as arranged, in FULL, on June 28, 2012. Today, July 5, 2012, I received a letter that I have been reported to the credit bureaus for non-payment (just as that female promised). This is a lie. I now will have to fight with the credit bureaus about this. Be warned. Devry makes no allowances for life's uncertainties and will make your life miserable until you give them what they think they should get, irregardless. Thank you
When I was unemployed in 2007, Know one would hire me because I didn't have a College Degree. However, I saw an on-line add about Devry University. I answered some questions because I wanted more information concerning the "Career Assistance". I got calls from them everyday concerning enrollment. Since I was depressed and vulnerable, because I couldn't find a job. I went in to the location in Gwinnett GA. since they called me everyday. They immediately gave me he FASTA application to fill out. Well to make a long story short. I ended up attending Devry, but I was unable to graduate because I ran out of financial ad. Now, I can not pay back my student loans because they were like vultures, they took all of my student loans. They never informed me that it is going to cost 75K to attend Devry and you have 50K on your student loans to attend, so you will have to come out of pocket 25K. They lied to me. All they were interested in was cashing in on my student loans. They told me how to lie on the FASTA application so I could get the PELL grant, but I could not lie. Plus, I never received the Career Assistance promised on the web-site advertisement, Help, I can not pay my student loan, they were vultures concerning my student loans.
Told I could pay by the class and did so. Now that I am down to one class have to pay for a full year's tuition. Told would have one math class before I could take statistics - now it is 5 classes and i've already paid 19000+ now another 7800, to get degree. Run from this place it is a rip off and misrepresented itself to get the money started then you are hooked and get nothing if you don't continue to pay! They should teach a class in fraud-they would be excellent at it.
I withdraw from the course and didnt even take the course online and they charge me over 500 dollars for a course I didn't even take and I trying to go back to school but I need my transcript from Devry and they will not release it because of non payment of a course I didn't even take!! So I can go nowhere else cause they wanna get paid for unused course! Total Ripoff!!
DeVry’s motto > You can tailor your DeVry University experience to meet the demands of your schedule. Your education is an investment. We help you prepare for the real challenges you'll face in the workplace by bringing the real world into the classroom. Enjoy the confidence that comes from earning your degree from a reputable university that's respected by top employers. That means at DeVry University, you'll earn more than a degree. You'll receive a career education that can lead to career success.
> The only thing you have to remember is that your success is not happening in this lifetime but you will have the burden of government loan debts forever for investing your education in DeVry. The fat cats have to get rich off all the ignorant students who don’t know any better.
I was wrongfully dismissed from Ross University School of Veterinary Medicine (a subsidiary of DeVry Inc.) I...
They misrepresent their engineering technology degrees (Cet, eet, bmet, ect.) as real engineering degrees. These degrees are not real engineering degrees and will not get you real engineering jobs. Engineering tech degrees are best suited for those who can not complete an actual engineering degree. If you want to be an engineer stay far away from devry, you are only going to waste money and time like I did.
How to they misrepresent their program? They advertise as an engineering program, their admissions advisers (Recruiters) outright lie about the degree and they claim that they are accredited by abet just like uiuc, uc berkeley and mit. While they are abet accredited they are not accredited for engineering, they are accredited for engineering technology which is a different field (Abet outright says that it is a different field).
DeVry is manipulating students in my opinion. They have no job leads, scholarships, or grants. First of all, they will let anyone into the school as long as your FAFSA allows you to pay them or borrow at high interest rates. The admissions representatives may attempt to obtain several pieces of information right up front that have nothing to do with your success as a hard working student.
First of all, DeVry doesn't care if you are a good student with high test scores or a good GPA. Admissions wants your social security number and FAFSA so that they can start a borrowing process that will haunt you with debt. They get points for selling you a product which may have no positive outcome. You will be in debt if you take out a loan to pay DeVry's increasing tuition fees. Nothing is owed to you from them and they will not give you anything unless you pay them.
DeVry preys on desperate individuals who are seeking a job in this time of career uncertainty. DeVry will use the control of getting you a job to force you into debt. I worked for the school and I know that they think the students are a joke. I would not recommend that any intelligent person to this school. We live in a good Country where Congress is working to reduce this kind of behavior at for-profit schools because it hurts Americans.
Trusting in false advertising, I became a student at DeVry's Keller graduate school of management. Thi...
While I was enlisted in the US Army, I tried to continue my higher education in my off-duty hours by using the military tuition assistance program (TA) to attend college classes. During a part of my enlistment, regular class attendance was virtually impossible due to long and irregular work hours, so I enrolled in DeVry University’s online courses. This decision turned out to be a horrible mistake on my part. DeVry was nothing but a disruption to my education, financial health, and career. Working with the DeVry staff was a 9-month nightmare that I would not care to repeat.
I used the military tuition assistance program to pay for a portion of my tuition for DeVry. I processed the tuition assistance paperwork as required by the military education center, they paid the army’s portion of the tuition as promised, and I paid the rest out of pocket. However, DeVry repeatedly billed me for the ENTIRE tuition bill – including the portion ALREADY PAID by the US Army. Attempts to contact DeVry’s finance staff were exceedingly frustrating. They were rarely responsive, and when they replied they simply stonewalled the problem while late fees were piled on to my balance.
For a while I incorrectly suspected that the military TA program had made some administrative errors which prevented payment, so I contacted my military education center’s finance specialist – the person in charge of handling TA payments to various colleges. That finance specialist showed me clear proof that the electronic fund transfers from the military to DeVry had taken place in a timely and accurate manner. She also contacted DeVry’s finance staff herself in order to straighten out the matter. She called DeVry and left multiple messages, but DeVry was even less responsive to her than they were to me; the matter remained unresolved and the bills and late fees continued.
After about 9 months, I got fed up with DeVry. I stopped taking classes; I warned DeVry that unless they resolve my billing issue, I was going to take legal action against them for defrauding me and for defrauding the US Army. This finally got their attention. By some “miraculous coincidence”, they almost immediately “found” the electronic trace numbers for the aforementioned TA fund transfers and settled the payment issue with me.
Regardless of whether this turn of events was the result of deliberate deception or gross incompetence on the part of DeVry, it turned out to be an incredibly disruptive influence on my education, military career, and personal finances. I made a wasteful mistake by attending uninspiring and mediocre online classes from an overpriced "college" such as DeVry. I should have wised up when I noticed their over-the-top sales pitches (i.e. exaggerated job placement & salary claims, & even a self-comparison to Harvard & Yale). Luckily, their attempt to cheat me (and cheat the US military) forced me to recognize DeVry for the money-grubbing degree mill they are. I completed my undergraduate studies at a real college following the end of my military enlistment. I hope other military service members and veterans will not make the same mistake I did by attending DeVry or other institutions like it. There is good reason that for-profit "colleges" carry with them the stigma of being greedy degree mills, so stay away from them and enroll in a REAL school!
I too was suckered into DeVry. There is this woman Beverly Smith that manipulated me into thinking that DeVry is the choice because of their reputation. Now I think back about it, what was this reputation? All I heard was reputation, I thought about it. That’s all it is, just the word reputation; they have no reputation! First and foremost, the double charged me on my application fee. They promise me that I will not be paying any money out of my pocket until I graduate. Before the first half of the semester was over, I was told I have to pay over $300 or else I cannot continue. Longer story below, shorter version here; I now have money owe to the financial aid and paying for something I cannot use! I have earned my A++, but I am not allowed to get it through DeVry because of their structure. So an education institute that is here for us, to help and make our country stronger, they rather just go piss in the wind. No wonder this country is failing, have an education system like this that allows any person that has a social security number attend. I am sorry, I am paying over $7k semester and paying out of pocket expense for books and software and only use 25% of material, and on top of that OPEN BOOK TEST??
FYI, supposedly I did a feat where it is a rare occasion. I did 3 math levels within 7 weeks and having a 98%. From math 032, 092, and 114. I was told that this was an accomplishment that never anyone wants to do. I am told this by people from DeVry, but never got recognition for it, in fact I got criticized for it, as I was expecting a prize or something. Their attitudes suck and they don’t care about you, they just care about getting federal grants and money from you so they can earn their money, unethically. Here is a school that teaches you ethics, and their ethics is like our government; “Do what I say, not what I do!”
My bad experience was choosing and going to DeVry. Talking to these people, I get better results from my dog! I ask a question, and no one is competent enough to actually have an answer, let alone trying to find that answer. What they do when they don't know they answer, they just make up stuff! Craig Jacobs is the president of DeVry Phoenix campus and as well as Martin Florez. These incompetent people are playing devils advocate in treating me like I am a criminal. I had complaints, issues, concern, etc... and none of them were ever met. So what they do is incriminate me. They take all these e-mails I sent to people that were NOT doing their job and decided to take the portion of the e-mail of me stating FACTS against them. They took it as a threat and snowball it into an unfair and unjust reasoning. They decided to WITHDRAW me from my classes. YES, WITHDRAW! I was 7 weeks into the 8 week semester and lost out of my time and credit earn because of what? I fought my way to have myself heard and all they do is incriminate me, TOOK everything I have said against me so I can no longer go to their school. Now for the reality of the situation of how surreal, to unreal it is! I had a hearing where I can be heard. Well no one wanted to listen to me, because of how I was represented by Martin Florez, the DEAN. The outcome was that I was suspended indefinitely, but was considered for re-instatement. So for me to re-instated, I am told I have to take anger management and sexual harassment classes/sessions. So I inquired about it, where do I take these courses, how long do I have to take them, do you know how much, etc... A normal question for someone that has brains and wants to understand what it is that is going on. I am told by the PRESIDENT, that for legal reasons he cannot say anything. So they can give out reprimand, but they cannot elaborate on it?
Well I didn’t like what I had to hear, especially how I have been treated. Inquired to the HQ of DeVry in Illinois and tried contacting the CEO, Daniel Hamburger. For someone that has a vision, he lacks integrity of following up with his word. Anyway, there is a woman (Kelly Wasilevich) that contacts me and says she is going to be doing an investigation of behalf of what I was complaining. After a few weeks go by, she responds to me saying the investigation is complete. Ok, I am curious about something, when were you going to ask me questions? The whole point of an investigation is to find the truth, not reevaluate how the hearing went and saying everything is in order. Of course the paperwork is in order, I am talking about what it is they are writing down is incriminating and they don’t care how I should take these classes. Kelly proceeds to tell me that I can take it on campus, this classes/session from the first hearing that the PRESIDENT said he cannot elaborate because of legal reasons and here I am told they had these classes on their campus the WHOLE TIME! Well I guess that entered me into a second hearing, but this second hearing was worse than the second one. Martin Florez over talk me on whatever I say. I speak, and then he would “clarify” to the panel in his words. I kept telling him to STOP doing that, and says no. What he doesn’t realize what it is he is doing, he is justify himself to like the good guy from this situation and me looking like the bad guy. It is all on tape!
To me that says a lot more about this school, than it does about me. The whole time I wanted to better myself, and I thought I would choose DeVry, but I never knew that an institute with this much reputation would do something like, let alone GET AWAY WITH IT! THEY ARE CRIMINALS! I am still in process of contacting Daniel Hamburger, leaving him voicemails.
All students beware of devry thieves
“devry inc. A world leader in providing educational services.” the biggest lie among for-profit schools. Devry might be a world leader profiting off student scholarships and grants but they don’t deliver the education necessary for graduates to get a decent job afterward. Paper mill degrees are on the rise during the recession with for-profit universities like devry making empty promises and robbing students of a valuable university education.
People I dealt with:
To start out, I went to a community college in Illinois. I was there for 5 semesters working toward an Associate’s degree in networking. I was told at the community college that DeVry has a bachelor’s degree for my major. So we met with an advisor at DeVry who gave us information about classes I’d have to take, costs, loans, etc. The advisor said that there were no more classes I would be able to take at the community college that would transfer over to DeVry for my bachelor’s degree. By the way, my bachelor’s degree was with DeVry’s technical management program in networking.
After the admissions advisor we spoke with counselor 1 who pretty much said that I could get done with my degree in 3 semesters and said we qualify for financial aid (we applied for financial aid). So a couple days later we called regarding our financial aid. The counselor said we have no financial aid on record. We spoke to the counselor face to face and the counselor said that was student loans. So since they said 3 semesters we determined we would be able to afford it.
After I was at DeVry for maybe 3 weeks counselor 1 transferred and counselor 2 replaced counselor 1. Counselor 2 emailed me a list of classes I would have to take after the registrar got done transferring all of my credits from the community college to DeVry. I calculated that to 5 semesters. Keep in mind that I’m a full time student taking 4 classes per semester. We spoke to counselor 2 face to face and they gave me a list of classes to take at the community college and a list of classes to take at DeVry in order to get my bachelor’s degree. So the admissions advisor and counselor 1 lied to us about how much time it would take to get my degree and there was actually more classes I could take at the community college. And all of the classes I took at DeVry in the semester I was there were all available to take at the community college. Along with the fact that my admissions advisor said that there were 3 classes from the community college that were equivalent to a networking class I needed and then maybe a month or 2 later counselor 2 said that those classes were re-evaluated and are not equivalent to a networking class.
So as I was taking classes again at the community college I ran into some problems. One problem was one class I was told to take hasn’t been available in a long time and another class required a prerequisite which I was never told about. But for one class that wasn’t available DeVry told me about an equivalent class that would transfer.
And keep in mind that I have my degree navigator, a sheet of paper with different sections that tell me about different classes I have to take, and the outline of classes I was given about what to take at the community college and DeVry.
And I also called up DeVry a few times because between my degree navigator, sheet of paper, and the outline I was given not everything added up. Not to mention that the admissions advisor said that one math class I took at the community college was equivalent to DeVry’s statistics math which is required for my degree and later said that that class wasn’t equivalent to DeVry’s statistics math.
Then after maybe a few months counselor 3 came in. I met once with counselor 2 and 3 at the same time and then after a year maybe counselor 2 transferred. As I keep comparing the 3 sources of information I was given things keep not adding up. My outline contains classes that I don’t know where they fit in with my degree requirements, and the degree navigator and sheet of paper with multiple sections of requirements have different classes listed that I have to take.
So I call up the Dean and counselor 3 (keep in mind that DeVry can’t keep their words straight) and ask them about some things. The Dean says I need 1 networking class that was listed in the degree navigator that counselor 3 said was optional and wasn’t listed on the outline. And with the degree navigator I was told I have to take a class that the dean added but no one ever told me about until I spoke with counselor 3. It wasn’t even on any of the sheets of paper I was given.
Not to mention that when I was with counselor 3 and they were going over everything with me (keep in mind that I know where I stand as far as my degree goes, it’s just the classes I need that no one can seem to get right) I was told I only needed a certain number more of credits before I was done with my degree. So I added everything up with what they told me and the credits of what they told me added up to more than what I needed. So I guess you can say I kind of busted them trying to get more money out of me. So me and counselor 3 kept adding up all of the credits and I was told one of my networking classes required would be optional.
Not to mention that I took pictures of the pieces of paper I had and sent them to counselor 3 and they said something about because things have changed that that’s not applicable anymore.
So DeVry can pretty much do whatever they want as far as changing what classes you need.
Not to mention they couldn’t even get my transcripts right. I filled out a form telling DeVry to send my transcripts to the community college once all of my grades were posted. What happened was I received 5 copies of my official transcript at my house, brought them to the community college, and saw that not all my grades were posted. So I called up DeVry and they said they don’t know how that happened. So I requested another copy of my transcripts with everything posted and the community college didn’t get that for maybe 2-3 months. DeVry kept saying they tried to fax it or something but the community college never got it through fax. The community college eventually got the transcripts though.
Problems with software, classes, and degree requirements
As far as the software goes, DeVry doesn’t even know their own software agreements. I was told that students can get one free full copy of Microsoft office 2007 but can only install it on the same computer only 3 times or something like that. I have uninstalled it from one computer and installed it on another computer quite a few times.
As far as problems with the classes go, I was taking a Business Law class and my myscribe book started downloading automatically so I figured that’s one less book I have to buy. After a week it disappears from my computer and I call up DeVry and they transfer me to myscribe and I am able to download the book again with no problem. After maybe 1-2 weeks go by it disappears again. This time I called up myscribe and they said I wasn’t supposed to even have been able to download it and they said they don’t know why I was able to get it in the first place. So about half the class got screwed with that and we got an extension on the homework.
DeVry can’t even get my degree requirements straight. When I went to new student orientation they said for engineering majors that I have to have a 3.0 gpa (which counselor 1 told me had to be cumulative) and for all over majors they need a 2.0 gpa. When counselor 2 was there I emailed them to make sure I know what I need and I thought that I need a C or higher for a class to pass. Counselor 2 emailed me and said that I need a D in each class to pass and I need a cumulative gpa of 2.0 to get my degree. And when I was about to take college algebra (Math 114) I was told I need a B or higher for that class and that’s the only class I need a B or higher in. Not to mention that for the networking classes that when I went to try to sign up for one counselor 2 said that those were only available online or at the Chicago campus. No one ever told us that.
DeVry has no curriculum. They are corrupt, have staff that don’t know what they’re doing, and all they want is your money. Don’t go to DeVry unless you have to. Attend a different school or something.
But DeVry has excellent resources and good teachers. That’s probably the only good thing about DeVry.
I was attending remington-college-b128343">Remington College from 2007 to 2009 after, I had attended remington-college-b128343">Remington College and received my Associates, and I was planning on going to Devry. I reached Devry University, in hopes of getting my bachelors and masters, but due to life events things happened. My grandmother was ill, then she passed July 10th 2010, of cancer, after the death of my grandmother, I had a beautiful baby girl born on September 07, 2010. During this time I decided that I would leave Devry and go to another school, as I was transferring to another school, problems accord during my registration. I was unable to complete the registration process, due to me not being fully released.
I did not know what this meant at the time, until I asked my mother to get involve and help. Well I found out that Remington had a private loan which I had taken out, and that School loan which is Remington’s own personal loan program, could not be deferred, I was very upset had I known this I would have been looking for a job to payoff this debt, while trying to attend Devry, so while I was attending Devry this school loan was piling up.
After, speaking with Remington, I talked to Devry, which was very difficult, because no individual there knew what seem to be going on especially in regards to financial aid. My mother who tried to get a hold of financial aid many of times was ignored, seeing that I had signed the paper work so that she may know everything about what was happening since she was the one paying for my student loans. After speaking with Sallie Mae, Citi Student loans, and a very rude and ridiculously unethical third party, by the name of First Source financial, a company hired by Devry to collect on there debt. I was told by both Sallie Mae, and Citi that I was reported as graduated when that was not the case I transferred and me being transferred was botched and led me into a state of limbo, plus the changes that have occurred since that, time I explained to them that I was, a father that I am not taking care of just myself but my child, my girlfriend and myself along with having another child on the way, plus expenses. Sallie Mae and Citi understood. But, this third party, this First Source Financial solution did not understand, after repeatedly calling my parents house and harassing them about my school loan debt with Devry, being belittled not once but twice I contact, both the Better Business Bureau and Ombudsman to file complaints against the schools and First Source.
Right now my education and my family’s future are in limbo. I do have a job but it is not enough to payoff or makes payments to both schools. The way these schools conducted business I am able to live the American dream and has made me think that education, and a brighter tomorrow is a thing of the past. I felt violated as though I was just a dollar sign by a group of hustlers and corporate thugs. And every time I try to express my story it falls on deaf ears. I just want to continue my education and have a care where my kids can have a future, where we can eat and not have to wait till the food stamp card is refilled.