Myself and my family of 5 (adults) from New Zealand did a tour through Tours4Fun and visited San Francisco from Los Angeles return. We had an enjoyable Tour and did everything that was listed on the Itinerary. Perhaps we were lucky that we had no problems ? Our tour guide was Chinese and translated, most of the time, to english. For any one reading, you really need to read EVERYTHING, about these tours so that you fully understand what's what. Yes, it is for Chinese, but for the most part they do translate to english so be aware. You need to read all about OPTIONAL fees and MANDATORY. That way you have no surprises. I'm not completely convinced after using Tours4Fun that they fully understand the Tourism Business???? because i too asked for a full Itinerary, disclosing the name of the Tour Company, and Hotels because i like to do review checks before hand so i'm at the very least, aware of what to expect. Obviously, when you consider the price, you get what you pay for, and for my Group, it was to visit San Francisco, Yosemite and get back to Los Angeles. Yes, the start times are early, and the days can be long, but if you've done your homework then you would know your travel distances and be able to estimate how much time is spent in the bus versus how much time is spent out of the bus. After having taken this Tour, i was pleasantly surprised and happy. I am currently about to take another and will comment again. Kia Ora from New Zealand.