I made the mistake of working for this ripoff company for a short period of time. I left Champion and hit the afterburners in moving onto something else other then trying to sucker each customer into doing something that is not in there best interest.
If your thinking about going to work for Champion or purchasing any of its products you should check yourself and don't waist your time and just look further at other offering instead of making that big mistake that you will most certainly regret. A lesion learned on my part but I was one of the lucky ones by getting out on my own terms. I found out that the local organization was just a revolving door.
I seen numerous customers that entered into sales contracts with the Champion organization and for one reason or another they wanted out after signing contract with Champion. Champion will just hold its customers hands to any and all contracts even though there was not any product ordered for that customer order or that job. Within my State they have laws that protects a customer for up to 72 hours after a purchase that was made within the home but not within purchases made within the Champion showroom. The sale people was required to write on the contracts that its was agrees and understood that a showroom purchase was not solicited within the customers home and the sales was not covered by the 72 hour writer recession. If the customer signed that contract they was locked into it terms as soon as the showroom doors hit them in the their backside. The customers could not back out of a showroom purchase and if any customers pushed any issues I seen Champion outright threaten its customer to how Champion would stop trying to work with them at all. If the customer protested or prosed any other actions on Champion they would lose there down payments and they would have to hire an attorney and go though a long and drawed out process to settle with Champion. Almost always a customer would be required to agree to giving Champion a satisfactory rating with the BBB if they did come to any agreement to settle any issues with them.
If a purchases were made on a weekend I knew that Champion could of canceled the contract as the manufacturer didn't even have the order yet as only the sale people worked the weekend. Even if an ordered was entered into the Champion computers they could of just called and backed up on any orders within a certain time line. Champion will never back up on any sale as its all for the sake of a sale or profits even if they have to lie, cheat, and steal from its customers. It also doesn't mind pitting its sales people and its customers between each other.
Within the Champion sales training manuals it state that the more money that a salesman can get as a down payment the less likely for a customer would want to back out of its contracts. It teaches its salesman to get a higher down payment of 50% or more to protect Champion so they could used its as leverage on the customers who might choose to back out of contracts. Of course if the customer made a purchase within there home and was protected by the 72 hours right of recession and Champion had no alternative but to just give the money back but Champion would take its sweet time in returning that customers money. This happen more often then what you would think mainly due to the customer finding out that they really had over paid way to much for the Champion products and its services.
Champion business selling model is based on trying to get its customers really emotionally involved within the sales presentation and then signing the Champion sales contracts for higher profit morgins on the spot. The Champion salesman's commissions pay program is geared so that the salesmen would want to get a 50% down payments because if they don't it does effect how and when the salesman is paid for his sale or project. With the larger down payments the sales person receives most of his commissions up front when with the lower down payments a salesman has to wait for his commissions until the project is finished.
After seeing numerous customers confutation's within the Champion showroom I often wondered why there wasn't multiple issues that came up with the local BBB. How does Champion get away with treating its customers in that manner and just challenging them. Champion has always brags about its BBB status but after working at Champion I know why now. Even most local awards are given to this organization solely due to its advertisement dollars and that is what it all comes down to. It is the ole mighty dollar at work. It is just a self serving wheel going full circle for all involved. You would be surprised on what go on behind the Champion veil.
The BBB accredited program really should to be investigated as its just a shell game by the BBB and they are just [censored] themself out to the organizations that pay them under the accreditation program. I have seen some other competitors that had a F rating with the BBB and all the sudden they ended up getting a A+ rating under the BBB accreditation program? The BBB would like the consumer's to think that the accredited program is a plus when they are really on the take.
Its just A BIG RIPOFF for all consumers that get involved so its just best to move on to another company that doesn't have to play these games with its customer or its employees. One of these days Champion corporate might weak up and see that its time to make changes to its business model but it might be way to late as people do not like being ripoff by Champion and the BBB. Thank you,
Cardnail Glass Company LoE366 glass it what it is. See my other posting for more of a detailed responce. We look forward to you posting about your in home sales presentation and how that goes with them. Thanks MASK
Who builds Champions Siding products?
It's not Champion... The correct answer is Crane Siding...
Who builds Champions Confort 365 window flat glass?
It's not Champion... The correct answer is Cardinal Glass Company E366 glass.
It may be a shocker that Champion trys to represent themselfs as being a superior manfacturer with there are selling the same products name brand products you can purchase off though distribution
You must beaware of doing any business with Champion as they are full of these mis-leading sales tactics.
Brent your posting here within this web site with some really good blinders on. I believe Champion services side to be within the industry standards most of the time Champion uses sub-contractors for there installation which does allow room for problems as the sub contractor is paid per product installation and may not be given the time to install the product properly. It all about the Champion "Sales: tactics and products and you would have to be a man of little morals to make a stand up for Champion on that part. Lets talk about a couple of them. Its it not true that Champion shears profits when a salesman is successfully in selling for higher profit margins which they call selling over PAR? That means you get to split the profits of what is sold over par if they are able to screw the customers. I know of several shady Champion sales people that will pad the projects to help drive up the project higher profit margins so they can split the profits with Champion? Selling over Par and they are rewarded for doing that by Champion. Is this really something that go one within a will respected company? Believe me they do know what is going on and the look the other way and even get to share within the profits of the Ill gotten gains. I don't know of to many national window company that sale there vinyl windows for over $1000 per window average. Most window companies make there profit off of pure product volume and sale a comparable window product for $350.00 $450.00 per window and Champion. Champion just prays upon the non educated window buyers and then hammers then them with a there buy it now sales tactics. Brain you need to weak up and smell the coffee and allow yourself to see writing on the walls within Champion. If you like to ripping off customers by trying to sell yourself to a unethical sales organization then please do so but some of us choose just choose not to buy into that brand of crap.
Oh BRING IT ON ole ### breath... I'm back and so put um up little guy. You have first hand knowledge of this company? What a load that is! Your another employee that is posting on a complaint board trying to discredit any negative postings of Champion. Go figure.
Nope you have me confused with another valued employee that must of seen the writing on the walls and now your throwing him under the bus. I wasn't fired by Champion at all and I left them after seeing way to much of what goes on under the Champion vial. Yeah anyone would be surprised at it... I went onto a professional sales organization and I'm thankful for that now. Champion is now just a skid-mark on my resume now like numerous other before me. Come on you guys blew though some thirty sale people in three years in one branch? There a big sign that it isn't a great place to work... I have no criminal record at all and I believe you guys are supposed to run the background check and drug screen test on all employees. Isn't that what you tell your customers you guys do? What happen to the poor guy your spewing about and how did he fall the the cracks? Now that funny admitting you guy hire some real shady people... The above BBB posting above is what I seen at while at Champion and I have to believe that to be true. SEE OTHER POSTING AS WELL I'm the the only one who fills that way. I have witnessed numerous sparing matches that went on while at Champion with its customers after there purchase. Champion has to be play nice until they got the sales prospect under contract then they played hardball 100% all the time so BUYER BEWARE. They will force a customers hand. It was kind of a bully attitude that rolls down form the top at Champion. Champion is proud of there record with the BBB and they pay dearly annually for that accredited status. If you ask me that is just all self serving.