Pyto - Python 3
reviews and complaints

I often find myself wondering if python can do this or that from other languages, and it usually can so I use this app to make various scripts. One thing is lately while writing code the info popup appears when I am placing my cursor in a correct spot to edit and it covers the code which is quite annoying. Maybe it can be adjusted to appear not directly over my touch point, this is on ipad.

Anyway highly recommend the app.

I used to use Pythonista, but it seems support for that has been abandoned. Pyto on the other hand has updates all the time (it’s also open-source so I doubt it’ll ever go stale if it becomes popular enough). Pyto can still run all my old/Pythonista scripts just fine. It also has OpenCV which, admittedly, I haven’t used on my iOS devices yet, but what an awesome lib to have included!

TL;DR: Great app. Lotsa updates. Great set of libraries. 5 stars

I don’t have a working laptop right now so I’ve been using this app on my iPad while taking some Udemy courses and I really like it. The only problem I’ve been having is that it randomly crashes when I’m typing new code and then erases the last few minutes of my work. It wouldn’t be that big of a deal if it only happened once and stopped when I reloaded but it’ll happen like 6 more times and makes it impossible to do anything. Hopefully this is something that will be fixed soon.

For simple code it works fine, but if you need to load a text file of about 600mb (which seams like an ipad pro with 4gb of ram should be able to do), pyto crashes.

having vim capabilities and mapping caps lock to control would also be very nice features as well.

anyways if your just learning to code or doing something simple you will love the joy and freedom of coding on your ipad. But if you need to do an real data processing of moderately sized data it just can’t handle it.

I’ve been trying to run some basic scripts, and pandas is not running. I keep getting a “pandas module not found error”.

Installing python packages from PyPI isn’t straight forward, it sometimes works, sometimes doesn’t

There is no clear documentation on if/how can I provide a requirements.txt file

No clear documentation on how I can import functions from another python file in the same directory

Support for virtual environments would be super helpful as well, when dealing with multiple projects.

Working from a text book. Got this app to do the exercises to learn Python. Stuck in 2nd chapter on stripping white space.

Following will not work:

>>> favorite_language = ‘ python ’
>>> favorite_language
‘ python ‘

# if you cannot tell, there are spaces between the quotation and the p and between the n and the quotation.

>>> favorite_language.rstrip()
‘ python’

>>> favorite_language.lstrip()
‘python ‘

>>> favorite_language.strip()
‘python’

This makes it difficult to use this app faithfully.

Prior to finding Pyto, I would often plug a Raspberry Pi into my iPad or resort to SSHing into a remote machine for Python3 development. I tried some other “on-iPad” Python solutions, but they all felt kludgey or were missing key Libraries I needed like Pillow, or numpy.

What really won me over though, was the developer’s approach to creating this app and some of his others. Development is very open. You can visit the project’s GitHub page to learn more or potentially even contribute packages or bug-fixes.

Well done!

THIS APP IS

I love the app, the IDE is better than most desktop applications — and over the course of only a few months they have added some fantastic modules - the developer is excellent and the support for this app is unmatched.

I only wish that they added:

Selenium Support. (I think all it needs is a WebDriver)
A support Discord for users of the app. (this would make the app’s support great (realtime))
An autofill feature (like PyCharm)

These are only mere suggestions and would make this app become the best it can be, but again I want to reiterate that this app is AWESOME and THE best currently available for IOS.

Carson

Hi, I would love to give the app 5 stars but I have a pre-sale question. The trial period was only for 3 days. First, thank you for a trial period, but for working people, 14 days should be a minimum. I download the app last Sunday. I had a very busy week. I never had a chance to try it until this weekend.

I never got to evaluate it.

I went to the app website but their was no support or contact us page. I thought I’d try asking the question here.

I use Pythonista. I love it. But, it’s limited. I’m working on a project that involves Django. Pythonista dosn’t natively support Django. I have to install stash. Which does work. But is quite buggy. Does Pyto allow for Django development?

First of all, regarding the title, this app works well, but it has an odd habit of asking me to purchase it— again, even though I’ve already purchased it. I need to restore the purchase by going online, which is an issue on my ipad.

Other than that, feels professional. It’s easy enough to navigate tabs (I just wish you could go up the file tree), and it lets you make projects— not just single files— and structure them. Feels almost like a desktop application! Since I have a bluetooth keyboard, works even better. The only problem I have, again, is the restore purchase issue which is annoying, especially since it happens every time I open the app.

I will update this review if it’s fixed.

Updated Review:
When I first used the app, it would not run even the most simple script. A day later, there was an update, so I gave it a second try. I immediately saw the difference. When you first start the app, the interpreter starts up and tells you the version of python installed (the usual), something that did not happen the first time. I was able to run scripts using NumPy and pandas without any issues. The interface could still use some work though, other than that it is a great app.

Initial Review:
This app cannot even run a simple python script: print(‘does this even work?’), let alone be used with pandas or NumPy. Plus, the GUI is also very, very basic. Don’t waste your money.

Quite a stunning achievement. I use sophisticated analysis code that uses numpy, pandas, matplotlib, sqlite3 databases, and requests to grab data across the internet. It basically works as one would expect it to.

What doesn't work for me: multiprocessing (on a 6 core 8th gen ipad). Should it work? :-)

I'm still confused by the folder hierarchy and how to ensure that locally stored data is accessible later on.

I hope that a future version will have a more realistic shell environment. Could this app be paired with Blink? Having to change the command line arguments for each invocation is annoying, so a more shell-like environment with .sh files to execute a bunch of code in sequence would make this a truly beautiful app.

I was really sold on this app and wanted it to work for me so bad. It has so much potential in the light of Pythonista. It’s a shame Pythonista has been left to die. I love that this app gives you access to all the PyPI modules. The world is your oyster, with a big BUT. The but is that although this app has a lot of potential it is extremely buggy. I tried working with it and kept reloading my script or force quitting the app and reloading it. It just gets old real quick and it becomes quite evident you can not rely on this app at all. I feel heartbroken, I will have to go back to Pythonista and hope one day this app get out of beta stage. I paid for the full app of PyTo. That will be my contribution and hope one day I can leave Pythonista for a polished version of PyTo. Cheers.

I really like this app. I write Python for machine learning applications for a living and having this tool on my iPhone and iPad 4 mini has become a true delight. I've encountered a weird problem with loading csv files. I have many csv files for testing a program, which I load one at a time. Some load but most are viewed by Pyto as nonexistent. I've deleted and recreated them multiple times without success. Where do I report errors like this?

Not to bring completion to the discussion but I've also been using Pythonista3. I'm disappointed that they have far less module and library support than Pyto but I have no issue loading csv files as I need to. Only saying I know it's not the files. Help :)

The fact that Pyto seems more concerned about delivering comprehensive functionality makes me smile for sure. Keep it up :). I'll remain loyal !

You can find lots of feedback online regarding Pyto crashing in many different ways. Right out of the gate, it crashed as I opened a file thru Working Copy (git), and immediately it lost knowledge about the 3~days trial and I had to accept the trial once again. A couple of files later it locked up, and I had to restart it. It now regularly crashes when a file is opened from Working Copy, sometimes the file is not opened in the Pyto editor, and sometimes Pyto crashes when executing a script.

This is way too unstable for my (any?) use. And note, I don’t mind paying for the pro version, but an app, especially an editor, needs to be rock stable for practical uses, functionality is worth nothing in a constantly crashing app.

Final comment: my iOS is fully up-to-date, was rebooted and I am using latest Pyto version. The app also crash in multiple ways. I don’t think this is a single minor bug fix, rather a fundamental problem that will require a ground up redesign of the app before it can stabilize.

I have purchased full version of the app and I am unable to install tensorflow on this app, I have raised an issue over GitHub 6 days ago but no response was provided.

I am able to search tensorflow versions via pip, but unable to install as it is unable to find versions

Querying PyPI ...
Error: Version not found: tensorflow[('==', '2.3.1')]
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "Pyto.app/site-packages/pip.py", line 1453, in main
repository.install(pkg_name, ver_spec, dist=dist)
File "Pyto.app/site-packages/pip.py", line 1037, in install
archive_filename, pkg_info = self.download(pkg_name, ver_spec, dist=dist)
File "Pyto.app/site-packages/pip.py", line 968, in download
hit = self._determin_hit(pkg_data, ver_spec, dist=dist)
File "Pyto.app/site-packages/pip.py", line 1088, in _determin_hit
raise PipError('Version not found: {}{}'.format(pkg_name, ver_spec if ver_spec is not None else ""))
pip.PipError: Version not found: tensorflow[('==', '2.3.1')]
>>>

Please help and I would love to give it 5 stars

Haven’t had any issues until today. Tried using input() function, and it causes the app to freak out.

Specifically, it makes the console unusable until you restart the app AND run a script that doesn’t use input(). At least, that’s what I’m experiencing.

By ‘freak out’, I mean it simply returns all text I type into the console without actually doing anything. The three >>> are missing. So if I type “test = 4”, the console will return “test = 4” without any syntax highlighting. Upon typing something like “test” or “print(test)” to check the value/output, it simply returns those exact strings I had typed into the console immediately prior — “test” or “print(test)”, respectively.

Sometimes, every time I type a character into the console (not even hitting Enter/Return, literally just typing), the console will output the current working directory. Like what?

I’ll give credit where credit is due — This app is overall the best I’ve found for iPad, especially with Pythonista being seemingly abandoned by bad devs. However, Pyto certainly crashes a decent amount, and weird bugs like the one I’ve mentioned make me question how robust it really is.

Definitely worth a download if you need a solution for iPad, but $10 is way too much for the amount of instability it has. In its current state, I’d say $2.99 would be more fair. Not saying every app should be free of bugs, but this is sheer instability and it’s very evident. For now, I’d stick to something like Spyder if you have access to a proper laptop/PC.

I commend the devs for the work they’ve done, but I must lambast the price tag and tell you that your product has some serious issues. You know how it is.

I purchased this app so I could write and execute Python on my phone. I previously used Pythonista, but this app appears to be abandoned now and never progressed beyond Python 3.6 (currently Python is on 3.10). A few useful improvements have occurred since then, such a walrus assignment, and I wanted to use these features. Unfortunately, there are a few issues I’ve had - mostly an ease of use from Pythonista. None of these are deal breakers, but would make the software more user friendly.

The software works as promised (it does occasionally crash, but it’s not been devastating). It has useful common libraries, like openCV, SciPy, pandas, numpy, turtle, and matplotlib. You can also pip install pure Python libraries. The code suggestions work well and the extra script details are useful. It’s nice to use 3.10 on my phone since much of my coding opportunities occur while I’m mobile. There are limitations, but these are iOS limits not the developer.

My biggest complaint: The output terminal is infuriating. The terminal pops up from the bottom of the screen and allows you to go full screen by tapping it. Unfortunately, it requires you to swipe down from the top to go back to the code but has a back button that takes you to the menu (out of the code). Very frustrating when you have to keep finding the document because you accidentally hit the back button instead of swiping down.

More frustrating is that when you hide the terminal out of sight, if your code is the length of the screen, you will accidentally keep making the terminal reappear when trying to select text near it - covering what you are doing. You have to hold and drag the cursor to select the text. Scrolling doesn’t work unless you add a bunch of empty lines below your text. In Pythonista, it opened the terminal in a window and swiping/back button would lead you back to your code. It’s simple but effective.

The app does not allow several tabs open at once, so you have to exit and find your file if you need to switch. Pyto only realizes when it should automatically indent the next line occasionally, which can be annoying. Additionally, it sometimes does not realize (or show) that you have created a new line, leading to failed execution. Occasionally, it will not execute a script (no error or output) and you have to close/reopen the app for it to work.

Overall, I’ve been satisfied but it can be better. Developers - Please reconsider your UI and give an option to not have a pop up terminal.

I can’t believe this is a production version. It launched once and that was it. I’ve not been able to get it to run ever since. Conceptually this is a good app but until the developer fixes its issues I will not be using it or changing my review.

I bought the full features app. However I ran into issues where importing Pandas would continually fail. I deleted and attempted to reinstall the app. However I can not restore the app and am stuck on the Welcome to a Pyto page and cannot use the app.

This app looks great but it won’t let me purchase any of the packs and when I close the application or delete then re-download that app crashes

If I can get in I’ll update my rating but till than ya

(I’m jailbroken on iPhone 11 13.5 so maybe that’s why?)

This app needs to make a major change. If my code takes up the entire screen, and I need to make edits to anything towards the bottom, when the keyboard is raised it covers half of the screen...INCLUDING where the cursor is. This results in me not being able to see what I’m doing.

This makes absolutely no sense.

This app is super buggy and crashes every time I run it. And I can’t seem to get any of the visualization libraries to render to the screen. I like the concept and it would be totally worth the $10 if I could get things to work right but I think there needs to be some more work done on it before charging that much.

I have the pro version, and the app crashes constantly just typing basic scripts. It seems to randomly latch on to certain variable names and crash any time you type that variable name. The only way to temporarily fix the app is to restart your device. Haven’t gotten the app to work for more than 30 minutes consecutively.

This used to be a great app. Now, if it runs scripts at all, it may run one—at most two—before the run button stops working and/or the console panel comes up blank. Sometimes closing the app and restarting helps—but only for one or two executions—and sometimes it doesn’t. My version is up to date. I have also removed and reinstalled with no improvement in performance.

No reply from Dev. The free trial part you have to do to even see the app has no way to cancel and the “contact” button doesn’t work and there are no shortcuts keys above the normal keyboard almost impossible to use. I had to get Apple support involved and they’re watching charges for me so they can refund when this hits. Do not download unless you want me to say I told you so.

Why does the app feel the need to recommend me a function every single time I type in a letter. It keeps slowing my app and blocking the code so I can’t read it. This has made the app unbearable. Why is there no setting option to fix this and why is there no way to contact support? There is a “contact” button in the app that doesn’t do anything and the app support is just an add for the app. Fix this.

I just updated. Now I can’t open any existing files from any location. The REPL spits a dozen error messages when I tap on the expression entry field. Running a one-line Hello World script takes many seconds to compile and then spits a dozen unrelated errors about Matplotlib.

How did this get past testing before you released?

Pythonista does not have these kinds of quality problems. Their releases are solid. Every time.

There is no option for cancel subscription..I don’t know how to cancel my subscription

You have to pay to use the app what a joke.
There is free compilers and shells everywhere.

It makes you pay to use it just make the app cost money why cant yall understand how to think dont play this

This app is a scam, it gives the illusion of a free python ide while in reality it is free to download pay to use. Such a skumy business practice. DO NOT DOWNLOAD!