Russ Darrow Group’s earns a 2.5-star rating from 0 reviews and 29 complaints, showing that the majority of customers are somewhat satisfied with their experience.
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Negligent; They lack of professionalism, their customer service sucks
•Their sales practices are unethical •Their Mechanics are not properly trained, they have little knowledge and are being allowed to work unsupervised on your vehicles critical components. •Not only will they damage your vehicle, they will do everything they can to treat this as a preexisting condition. They will ship your evidence out without your...
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DEALERSHIP CLEARED CHECK ENGINE LIGHT AND SOLD ME A FAULTY VEHICLE WITHOUT DISCLOSING THE NEED FOR REPAIR! I purchased a vehicle from Russ Darrow Mazda after being backed into a corner due to VERY poor sales ethics. I paid THOUSANDS of dollars for a vehicle from Russ Darrow Mazda, only to have the CHECK ENGINE LIGHT come on FIVE DAYS after signing papers at this dealership. Russ Darrow Mazda GM GEORGE and Sales Manager NICK PALADINO have offered NO resolutions to the fact that THIS dealership sold me a vehicle that cannot LEGALLY operate in the state of WI. When the car was brought in to diagnose the problem, Russ Darrow Mazda wanted to charge for the diagnostic test, as WELL as a $800 repair. After agreeing to repair the issue for us, GM George called back and said that we would have to pay, because they were "losing too much money". Visited the location again to explain that Russ Darrow Mazda has a duty to its customers to sell and finance multi-thousand-dollar vehicles for its customers THAT ARE LEGALLY OPERABLE! BBB and State will be notified of this HORRIBLE dealership.I will NEVER buy a vehicle from the Russ Darrow Company or its affiliates ever again. I will stop at nothing to make sure that EVERYONE I encounter will be made weary of this establishment as well.
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
GAP/GPP not what is sold to be
Had a terrible experience with the GAP/GPP coverage we purchased on our new car. My wife & I still owe $240 after my insurance and GAP coverage paid. So, although we were told it would pay everything, it didnt. I was quoted fine print in all the various contracts and told they paid everything the were supposed to. So much for total coverage like they said at the time of sale. Buyer beware when you use Russ Darrow Kia. Better bring your lawyer with you to go over the paperwork.
Deceptive Practices
Russ Darrow Honda of Milwaukee is by far the worst car buying experience I have had. Went in to buy a new car check in hand, and their lying, deceit, manipulation, and unprofessional caused me to walk out the door with my check in hand. I would need a novel to describe all they did in my two visits with them but here are some of the highlights. If they send you and internet price quote, it will be the lowest you receive so they can get you in the showroom and then lie to you over and over to try to get you to pay more. THEY WILL NOT MEET THE INTERNET QUOTE FOR ANY REASON. THEY ARE THE BIGGEST ### I EVER MET. The will offer you one finance rate then switch it when it goes on paper. The wasted so much of my time and energy. These people are liars from the top on down and if you read all the online reviews it supports my story.
If they had my dream car for one dollar on their lot I would not buy it. They would figure out a way to try to screw me!
If you have a problems with any Russ Darrow dealerships please report them to Better Business Bureau, A.D.A.M, Honda American, and any of the online review sites.
HONDA MAKES AN AWESOME CAR AND RUSS DARROW'S PRACTICES ARE TOTALLY UNNECESSARY!
CAN'T BELIEVE THEY CAN STAY IN BUSINESS!
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
We are very sorry to hear this please contact me at jre@russdarrow.com to allow me to assist in anyway possible. We value ALL OF OUR customers and will go above and beyond to help
She came in with a down payment from her divorce from her husband lied cheated and stole anything she could plus she said she wanted unattainable finance rates had the cars in stock and she waited to long for the special pricing THE QUOTE HAD AN EXPERATION DATE ON IT AND WAS A WEEK LATE
cheated me on price
On November 18, 2008 I was searching the internet for a car and came across a Nissan Murano 2007 for $17, 749.00 with 35, 192 miles on it. The Russ Darrow website had the car it was located in Milwaukee, WI. I then called Russ Darrow in Milwaukee, WI at approximately 9:30am [protected]) and asked if they still had the Nissan Marano for the $17, 749.00 price I was told they do, and then the sales man Pat Vaccaro asked if I would like to come take a look at it I told him I am in Appleton, WI so it would be in the afternoon when I would be there. Pat then asked for my phone number and name and I gave it to him.
I went into the shower at approximately 10:30 am and another salesman called my home(my husband answered the phone) from the Russ Darrow in Milwaukee, WI location and asked if we were still going to be able to make it to look at the Nissan Murano my husband said we would be there at approximately 2pm.
We then drove to Milwaukee and arrived at the car lot around 2 pm the salesman immediately went out to look for the car he was gone about 10 minutes and said that he was unsure where the car was and that he thought that someone had taken it for a test drive.
He then stated that maybe we should run our credit to see if we could get a loan we explained to him that we had a lien on our van (2001 olds silhouette-made in Canada --miles in kilometers) he said that he would need to have us fill out some paperwork and then he would be able to find out what he could do. He went back and forth from where we were an to another office 10 feet away getting info from us and telling another man in the other office. We negotiated the interest rate from 9 to 8% interest and he stated that he had some cars on the lot that had rebates and that if we wanted to take a look at them we could. So we then took a Suzuki Grand Vatare for a test drive and when we returned I told the salesman Pat that I have my heart set on the Nissan Murano. Then he talked to us about doing a lease and we were willing to but, then the Nissan Murano that we were wanting to buy originally was found and he told us that it was not on a test drive earlier and that it wasn’t starting earlier because the key was not electronically programmed so it would not start but, that the problem has been fixed and we could take it for a test drive (looking back now I am wondering if there was an inspection done on this car)
We then took it for a test drive and decided we did want to buy it. Then we told Pat that we would take it so then he went back in the office that was 10 feet away and confirmed that with the man in the office and then he started congratulating us and 2 other guys came out of the office that was 10 feet away and said thank you for doing business with us. Then we were brought into Mike’s office. Pat told us that he would need to take the vehicle to get cleaned up and ready for us to take.
And then Mike started going over the paperwork with us at this time it was 7pm and we had 2 kids under 4 with us – we were there approximately 5 hours at this point we were tired and knew the car lot had been closed for 2 hours already but, we got half way through signing the papers and I noticed that the sale price of the vehicle was higher ($20, 599.00)and then I asked Mike why this was higher and not the $ 17, 749 amount and he said that they were burying the amount of the trade in so that it would offset the price of the car. My husband and I understood that as the price of our trade in would be higher and the price would even out to $17, 749.00. My husband even said so you are making the van look like it was worth more and Mike said yes—since it was so late and Mike seemed like a nice guy we believed him. So we thought that would make our loan amount smaller and then we proceeded to sign all the papers.
We then went outside to move all of our things from our van to the Nissan Murano and it was about 25 degrees(we had 2 small children under 4 yrs old in the cold) I asked Pat if we could go inside I was told everything is closed up and we could not go inside-- this took about 20 minutes and Pat stayed with us and then after that we got into the Nissan Murano and noticed that it had not been cleaned out and that there was soda spots all over the cup holders and that someone must have had dirty hands like a mechanic and the steering wheel was very dirty and the gas tank was on empty –we started to get out of the car and noticed that Pat had taken off quite quickly and that no one was there to speak to so we left.
For days I looked at the paper work to figure out what was done with the loan and not being that good with numbers I could not figure out what they did with the loan I asked my sister to look over the numbers to tell me what she thought. She said I think they ripped you off I thought since I signed the paperwork there wasn’t much I could do.
But then I received a phone call from Mike at Russ Darrow and he said that I need to come back because some of the paperwork was not signed he said that it would lower my monthly payments and I said how much lower and he said 1 dollar lower. Then I started to tell him how disappointed I was with the service and that I was left with no car mats or gas and the car was not cleaned out he said that if I would drive back up there that they would take care of all these things. I was going to say something about the price but, decided I would go up on Saturday and discuss it with them then – since the paper work wasn’t all finished yet.
I then got a call 1 hour after I spoke to Mike it was Russ Darrow Milwaukee again and there was a man on the other end asking me if I was still interested in the 2007 Nissan Marano and I was a little confused and said you mean the one from the internet and he said yes and I told him I already bought it –( they seemed to be very unorganized)
I went back To the Russ Darrow in Milwaukee with my sister on Saturday at around 2pm and Mike was in the showroom and asked me to go to into his office and when I went into his office and started to tell him that I thought I was being charge about $3, 000.00 more than I thought I should be charged he basically said that the $1, 500.00 was way more than the trade was worth (2001 olds silhouette Kelly blue book is $3, 370.00) and that they lost money on the deal and he then handed me the papers he wanted me to sign. I said that I wasn’t going to sign the papers and that I was leaving I then went into the showroom for about 5 minutes thinking maybe I should talk to someone else that was a manager then I seen Mike walk into one of the manager’s office and then I talked to my sister and she thought that I should talk to a lawyer.
I then went outside and got into my car and Mike and a another guy came out after us and said that the papers already have been signed for the car and that they cannot change the price since all the papers were signed and I said obviously all the papers have not been signed or I would not have had to come here today the other guy said they lost money on the deal because they sold my van for only $300.00
I said that is a lie please don’t lie to me – Mike then said that if I leave the car lot that he would call the police so I said that I would come in and discuss it so they went back inside I then called my husband and he said that I should just leave and call a lawyer. I left the lot.
Ten minutes later Mike called my husband and harassed him and told him that he was going to call the police if I didn’t go back there.
November 17th 2008 Ivan Lawler called from corporate office he says he is finance directorhe was calling to work things out( [protected] cell) but seems like a dishonest man too. I told him about the computer price $17, 749.00 he then said that I needed to print the information off the internet and that I could bring that to him and we could discuss that so I said if I bring that in that you will give me that price and he said that we will discuss it and then he went on on to say that it was probrobly a computer glitch. And then went on to say that every trace of that add is off the internet. I did’nt realize that I needed to bring that ad off the internet I didn’t think it was a coupon.
November 21, 2008 I called Ivan today and told him that I was going to send a letter to all at Russ Darrow and he seemed like he was more willing to negotiate so we set up a meeting on Saturday November 22, 2008. I asked to have the price changed and he talked about more warranty I just want the price I drove all the way up there for.
Ivan said all that needs to be signed is Gap insurance- not sure why the police would be called for that?
No sticker was on window when we bought it.
Pat Vaccaro no longer works there he must of left the job the day we bought the car?
12-3-08 I got a call from a lawyer today that said that if I don’t go there to sign the gap insurance papers that they will start charging me rental charges on the car and the lawyer also told me the loan provider revocked the loan too so there is no loan in place. I said I would like to return the car and get my trade in car back and the lawyer said no – basically I am being forced to buy the car now.
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
On Thursday November 19th, I noticed a 'beater car' on Carfax.com through Russ Darrow for my son to just drive in winter. He has a really nice car and does not want to drive it in the snow. I called there to see if the car was available and of course the gal said yes it was. We made an appointment for a test drive that evening at 7:00. We arrive promptly, they had our names, and gave us to a sales person. The car was a 1999 Honda Civic, green, with 142, 000 miles for only 999.00. Perfect. They bragged it up quite nicely, 14 pics, inspection sheet all checked off etc. Well, the guy, after about 20 minutes, brings out a Pearl White one. My son stated that wasn't the right vehicle, and of course he played dumb. Was talking about playing call of duty and other things, laughing, said this car was a much nicer one than the one we initially came in for. Too bad, that on was $2, 900.00, so not happening. Ok, he will go get the other one. Another 20 minutes goes by, he says it's outside warming up. We take a look, and it's green, so we thinkg that's the one. My son hops in, even though I said I don't think that's the one - it looks a little different. Well, while they are out for a test drive, another guys hands me the safety report, supposedly on this car...'major' oil leak, extensive under body corrosion, rear end damage...wonderful, I thought. They get back, I show this to my son, then the same guy goes "we can't sell you this car anyway." Of course i said "why not?". He said "we don't have the title for it". I asked him how he could even have the car if he has no title. He gave a sideways glance to the salesman with my son and then says "well, that's the million dollar question I guess". Yes it is, i stated, and I would like it answered. Never got the answer, but I have a feeling if I said I didn't car about the title, it was just a beater that would be junked after winter and that I was paying cash, they would have sold it to me. The car had the radio ripped out of the dash, harness, wiring - everything. Then we find out that this ISN'T the car we came to see either. The salesman tried for another 10 minutes to locate the keys to the car we actually came to see - went to the car and came back - no car- and said the keys were stuck in the ignition and that radio had also been 'taken'. Turned out the safety report was for the one we wanted to drive, not the one he did drive - with no title. We were now there 1.5 hours and nothing. Guys eating pizza, doing fantasy football on their computers. Seemed like only one guy was really working, everyone else was just hanging around trying to sell very sketchy used cars, with no titles. Stay clear, Russ Darrow, 91st and Brown deer.
[This is an email I just sent to jre@RussDarrow.com the address provided by Russ Darrow above, regarding my complaint experience and their shady practices that are still apparently going on after 4 years from what is being told on this website]
My name is Anjanette Norton. I am a single mother of 2 children, and a nurse with both a bachelor degree in business as well as associates degree in nursing.
On Saturday 10-3-15 I went to your Russ Darrow Nissan location to look at a 2013 Ford Explorer for sale that was listed on CarFax.com. A salesperson named Fernando assisted myself, my aunt (who came along to help review the vehicle, she has a degree in engineering) and my 2 young children. Fernando accompanied us on the test drive of the vehicle. All boxes on the sticker detail relating to the car were checked in passing condition, with no problems reported. I noticed that the Engine Light was on and questioned Fernando about it... Fernando had a service technician take the vehicle back for inspection. The service technician came out and indicated that all systems, including the engine, were functioning appropriately. He said the light was on because when a Ford vehicle sits for nearly a month the engine light goes on for it to be reviewed by the dealership and manually turned off by the service dept at a Ford dealership, to encourage consumers not to let their vehicles sit for extended periods of time (as in extended vacations or 2nd vehicles). Fernando then claimed that the price of the car was higher than what was reported on CarFax - I indicated this was false advertising if so, and would walk out.
Fernando went to the manager, came back and said that they would honor the CarFax price that I had brought along as confirmation. I had indicated the monthly amount I could afford, a printout from an online bank source with the finance rate I should qualify for, as well as printout of Kelly Bluebook value on my trade-in. Because we were in the offices for over 3 hours, with multiple stories over prices and attempts to haggle - which I indicated I did not want to do - I walked out of the building and into my own vehicle. Fernando chased me down in the parking lot to stop my vehicle, saying they would come down slightly less in price - I said no, based upon the research I had done. When I arrived home 45 minutes later, there was a message on my machine from Fernando saying they would come down a little lower on the financing and monthly payment. I called Fernando back, told him what I was comfortable with - he spoke to his manager, they came to terms and said they would meet the finance percentage I was looking for, with a monthly rate $20 higher than I had looked for. I said if that was firm, I would make the 45 minute trip back out on Monday since it was very late in the day. They assured me that would be okay after 9am.
On Monday 10-5-15 I arrived to speak with Fernando, and was upset to say the least that again they were trying to haggle over price. They indicating that although telling me on the phone the price/finance terms were firm, they didn't actually have the authority to agree to that and needed to run a credit check (I have very good credit, and just qualified for a premium mortgage refinance through my mortgage lender that is much less than what I was paying - given I receive $80, 000 per year in support that does not account for taxes and responsibilities). They tried to tell me that the credit check would only allow them to go with a finance rate 1% higher than what they originally told me over the phone... and that now they were also changing the monthly payment $17 higher than what they had agreed to earlier. I again went home to pickup my children from school. Fernando called me saying that they would come in at $7/month higher than what they originally agreed and I shouldn't have a problem since such a small amount - I said since so small, they should honor the consumer and take that amount themselves since they didn't honor the verbal agreement over the phone initially. I told him not to call me back unless he spoke with his manager and all was firmly agreed to be met - that I would not make a 3rd 45-minute trip out there unless they agreed. He called me back 2 minutes later saying his manager agreed and to come back. I drove with both of my children out to the dealership, only to be very disgusted that again they tried haggling over the price and finance terms. At this point, I did not want to continue to make back-and-forth trips to the dealership. They came down $2 (not the $7, which was petty enough it seemed). The Ford vehicle I was purchasing was being driven fast and erratically by a dealership person (my kids and I were concerned as we were signing paperwork) all over the parking lot and into the service dept. The finance person went through papers with me, and I questioned amounts that were different than what I had been told - he indicated he hadn't had a chance to change to the correct amount. I refused to sign, so he reprinted correct paperwork for me to sign. I had called my auto insurance company, which faxed all paperwork to the dealership & told the finance person I would be getting GAP coverage through my insurance company at a lower rate.
After the paperwork was signed, the vehicle was brought out to me so I could drive home for an appointment that was in 15 minutes. I almost risked making that drive, but instead stayed in the lot and went back inside to speak to Fernando. I told him I was mad that the Engine light had not been resolved as they had made it seem it would be from the service person we all spoke to (Fernando, my aunt, and I all with the technician). Fernando went inside to speak to someone, came back out and said Nissan only has equipment to manually turn off Nissan's - not Fords. I said to him that I would not pay $1 more to have this taken care of when they assured me beforehand it would be - Fernando gave me the information for a Ford Dealership near me, and that there would be no charge to have the light turned off.
This morning I called the Ford Dealership - they said they do not have any arrangement with Russ Darrow Nissan on Brown Deer Road, and that it is definitely not a free service - that it would cost $100 for the diagnostics and light turned off. They said to have Russ Darrow Nissan contact them and they would arrange for payment so I could have this performed and completed as originally promised by Russ Darrow (who - from all sales and complaint ads - says they stand by their word, honor, and customer interest in 100% satisfaction). I left a message at 8:30am with the secretary for Fernando giving all applicable details, the dealership information to contact and arrange, and how to reach me at work to assure me that he had looked into it for it to be taken care of. It is now after 4pm the same day - Fernando HAS NEVER had the courtesy to return my call. I called 30 minutes ago, again speaking to the secretary stating it was urgent, that I did not want Fernando's voicemail, and that I expected a call back from him today so this could be taken care of - she said they didn't know where Fernando was in the dealership even after being paged.
I don't have to tell you how this is poor customer service, the pit in my stomach that if the Dealership lied extensively about the Engine light and costs associated with it - what else might actually be found if diagnostics are run on the vehicle, and liability of such since the sticker paperwork was not accurate no matter what Fernando, the service technician, or Dealership manager all stated to me.
I do not plan to sit back idly or quietly. I have already posted this whole ordeal publicly on Facebook for my 200+ friends to share with their thousands of friends so that word of mouth spreads about my experience (under Wisconsin tort so long as the story is limited to my own experience, it is not illegal and very consumer-driven). I am also pulling up the Better Business Bureau page so that I can file a formal complaint about this - especially given that in trying to find complaint contact information for Russ Darrow online I discovered a dedicated webpage going back more than 4 years with pages of terrible consumer stories about this particular dealership I wasn't aware of - and how this is still an ongoing matter that obviously hasn't received appropriate attention from Russ Darrow for correction. I plan to take that website information, along with all of my paperwork and experience, to my local Senator to also issue a complaint for them to look into.
On top of this, if there is not satisfactory rectification made to the matter I will contact television WISN consumer news for them to report on local businesses that fleece consumers - and contact an attorney to handle the matter.
I would instead expect that Russ Darrow will take the necessary measures to ensure that something like this is addressed immediately by the Russ Darrow Nissan dealership on Brown Deer Road, without further cost to me, so that I have peace of mind in my recently purchased vehicle through the dealership.
Anjanette
Russ Darrow strives to create an exciting and rewarding atmosphere for every employee which will then reflect in superior service to you. Total customer satisfaction is our ultimate goal whenever we open our doors.
I recently bought a vehicle and was extremely disappointed. I drove the car off the lot and the vehicle was making a noise. I contacted the dealership and they said to have their shop look at it. Well they found a $200.00 problem which they said they would not cover. I contacted the GM George Matthews of the Browndeer Rd. Location and he said I should have bought the warranty that was approximately $50.00 a month. I just paid $15000 for a 2012 and they didn't care about my satisfaction. The finance agent lowered my interest rate so he could sell me oil changed/free car washes etc. but wouldn't lower my rate for buying the car! I will never buy a car from this company again.
Russ Darrow Nissan also treats their employees like crap too. I was in there for service and witnessed the managers Dean or Nick virtually bullying an employee which was totally uneccesary. The managers of this location need to take classes on how to treat their employees fairly and NICELY. When you have someone who is a hard worker they should be complemented not bullied.
They are very dishonest even for car sales man. Only care about making money. Never, I mean Never go on line at Russ Darrow. I went online 3 weeks ago. I know get a call every day about a vehicle that was sold two weeks ago. I asked the on line sales person if the car was still available a week after it was sold to see what she would say. She told me it was there, she could give me a deal on it, and that I should come in. I told her I lived over 3 hours from the dealership could she please check and make sure the vehicle was there, I told her I would be paying cash for the vehicle. She said she was sure the vehicle was there. At this point I thought I knew the vehicle was sold because I spoke to a sales person the week prior who said that he was sorry that he had sold it himself..Anyway I went down to the store Russ Darrow CDJ Milwaukee to see the vehicle and after sitting there for almost 30 min. was told the vehicle was sold! I explained to the internet manager what happened all she said, I think her name was Kelly, That sort of thing happens and then said why dont you look at a different vehicle. I was still mad because I really think the car was sold a week prior to me going in but I decide I would look as long as I was there. I aks if she could help me look for a vehicle that may be close to what I was looking for. She said Me...no...I am the INTERNET MANAGER... you will have to wait for the sales person. I asked her if she could look on line for me because I had seen a 2010 Jeep Wrangler that I wanted to check on she said that she was to busy and walked away! I left the store and will never go to that Russ Darrow on 7676 north 76th street again very glad I did not buy a vehicle there, if something would have went wrong I know what I would have been told.. "THAT IS TO BAD I AM JUST TO BUSY DEAL WITH IT' ANY WAY BAD MANAGER, BAD STAFF!
PEOPLE SHOULD BE MADE AWARE OF THE PRACTICES AT THE RUSS DARROW CORPORATION NOT ONLY IN THE WAY THEY SELL OR REPAIR CARS BUT ALSO HOW THEIR EMPLOYEES ARE TREATED AND THE OSHA AND STATE LAWS THEY BREAK.
I AM DISSAPPOINTED AT HOW RUSS DARROW DOES BUSINESS. I DECIDED THAT I DID NOT WANT TO BUY A CAR AND ASKED FOR MY 100.00 REFUND. I HAVE BEEN CONSTANTLY GEETING THE RUN AROUND. I CAME INTO THE OFFICE AND GAVE THEM A 100.00 CHECK TO HOLD A CAR. IT WAS CASHED A DAY LATER. I HAVE BEEN WATING OVER A WEEK TO GET MY REFUND...I WILL NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH RUSS DARROW AND WILL TELL ALL THAT I KNOW NOT TO AS WELL!
I am sorry to hear about your experience. Please contact me at josh@russdarrow.com so I can help you resolve any problems you may have had.
It's funny to hear that ladies story. A very similar situation just happen to me. I found a car I liked on their Russ Darrow site that was listed at 10998.00 I went to test drive the car and liked it so we went in to talk about financing. The guy took our info. Walked away and all of a sudden some other guy comes over Josh I think and says the car I'd 16999 I said no you have the wrong car and showed him the one I was talking about. He brought in the sticker from the car which said 16999. I asked why it was posted as 10998 and he lied and said he just sold a very similar car the before and that's what I saw. I said that was ironic they had two cars with the same color year and mileage. So we went to leave when he followed us out and said if saw something we might like he would call and I said no if you can't explain this don't bother. I pulled my phone out with the picture of the vehicle I saved and held it up, he seemed irritated and said just hold on ill he right back. He returned a couple minutes later and said he spoke with RD3 which I guess is what he calls Russ Darrow the third. He said Rd3 will sell it for the price I found on the Internet. Against my better judgement we went back inside before signing the loan papers we decided we should look at the vehicle one more time and he said ok stay here I'll pull it up when he did so there was mass amounts of exhaust coming from the back which he ignored. I questioned it and first he tried Changing the subject and then he said its an SUV they have a lot of exhaust and I said ok I'm not stupid but that was really a lot when he knew I wasn't going to drop it he told me if it would make me feel better he would drive back by the service department to have them look at it. Literally 2 minutes later he drive up with the stereo blasting. I assume trying to change the topic so I asked again and he said he spoke with the mechanic (which I later found was one of many lies and learned that on Saturdays the service dept. Is only open till 12 and that all happen around 5) and everything was fine. So after purchasing the car we drive a block away and hear a horrible noise start when I turned the air on I tried calling the dealership and they were closed now so I figured I would call Monday well I go home run into the house to grab something and back to the car. When I started the car in the underground garage there was so much smoke I couldn't see the car next to me. I had to prop open the door to try and get some of the fumes out. I called and spoke with the salesmen on Monday which happens to be the manager at the Waukesha location too and basically too bad it was sold as is when I asked why the info sticker had all of the boxes checked off that everything was inspected and working when it clearly isn't he said if it turns on its working maybe not correctly but if it works they check yes it passed. Then a friend if mine looks under the hood and checks the oil and said there was none at all and to immediately drive to valvoline to get oil I paid 20 to have oil added that day. Then I took the car to their service department and exolai.ed everything I waited there over 3 hours. While I was there oddly a finance guy comes up and starts telling me how he has the same vehicle just a different year and how it had a sludge engine I'm thi.king why is he telling me this? He recommends an extended warranty that would cost more per month than my car payment so I figured he was just trying to sell me something. Well after all that time and being late for work the service guy comes up with my keys and says they can't find anything wrong with the car. I was shocked to say the least but what was I going to do? I figured maybe someone had forgotten to replace the oil when they took the car in and maybe everything would be ok? Nope! The smoke had gotten worse and after 3 days I checked the oil and again completely empty. So I took it to a mechanic in town and paid almost 400 for a diagnosis and tune up he tells me he's sorry to say it has a sludge engine and that the engine would eventually seize and stop working. He said furthermore whoever I had bought the vehicle from knew because when he took the engine cap off it looks like someone literally took there finger and cleaned the sludge around that area so you couldn't see it without an experience eye. So now it makes sense why that fiance guy was talking about sludge engines. Boy what a coincidence... Unfortunately now I'm in the process if trying to find an attorney.
Darrow sells lemons
I purchased a vehicle from this Darrow dealer in Milwaukee a couple months ago. Along with the vehicle, I bought a "gold plus" warranty package for an extra $2,800. As a condition of the sale, the brakes were to be completely redone, front and back. After telling me that it was fixed and charging me extra for the brakes, I was on my way. Two months later the vehicle begins to shake when I use the brake. Various other things are faulty at this time as well including the cruise control, back-up sensors, oil pressure gauge, ect.. I brought the vehicle back into them to tell me what the problem with my brakes is and to fix the other problems. They then lied to me by telling me we never agreed to having the rear brakes fixed, and also informed me that none of the other issues are covered by this $2,800 gold plus package warranty. The moral of the story is that if cheating a hard working man or woman to put a few extra greasy dollars in your pocket is worth sacrificing your integrity; you may want to work at Russ Darrow in Milwaukee WI. The End.
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
We are very sorry to hear this please contact me at jre@russdarrow.com to allow me to assist in anyway possible. We value ALL OF OUR customers and will go above and beyond to help
Warranty service!
It is my opinion that Russ Darrow Kia of Waukesha will likely go by the way of some other Kia dealers in the Milwaukee, WI area and else where... OUT OF BUSINESS. I recently had problems that surfaced with the air conditioner on my 2003 Kia Sedona following a warranty visit for the same repair. The service writer sent me directly to a toll free number for Kia (they don't even try to remedy these issues within the dealership) which resulted in an effort by the manufacture to try to convince me to spend over ($100.00) to help find what if anything they might have done to create the problem. Give me a break!
I'll have the air conditioner fixed somewhere else and certainly never purchase or recommend any Kia vehicle to anyone.
We are very sorry to hear this please contact me at jre@russdarrow.com to allow me to assist in anyway possible. We value ALL OF OUR customers and will go above and beyond to help
Bad service repair!
My vehicle had a "check engine" light and some stuttering.
I contacted the dealer to see how much they would charge me for a tune up. l I agreed to do the 90K tune up which included the diagnostic check for $550.00 including tax.
This was Russ Darrow Mazda at3520 S. 108 st. Greenfield, Wi 53228.
I took my vehicle to the dealer at 7:00 am the next morning. The service salesman, Jim, said the repairs would take about 5 hours. I used their shuttle to get to work, which got into an accident, resulting in me getting to work late. At 9:30 am, Jim called me and said the problem did not have anything to do with the tune up. He said it was a leak in the lower intake gaskets and that my serpentine belt was cracked and my oil pan gasket was leaking also. I told him then, not to do the tune up and just fix the problem. He then told me he can't stop the tune up work because it was already 80% complete. What I don't understand is how they could have finished 80% of the tune up work in two hours, and that’s figuring 1 hour or more for the diagnostic check, when he told me the work would be done in 5 hours and the vehicle would be ready around 12 or 1 in the afternoon. I got to the dealer at 5:15 pm and Jim said the car was just finished and that it would be a few minutes to get the paperwork done - about 5 minutes. Well I waited 10 minutes in the lounge area. Since he didn’t come, I went back to the service area. I saw that my paperwork was on the desk ready, and he was doing other work. He then said that I need new tires.
When I got home I noticed that my headlights were not working. So I had to go back the next morning to get that fixed - another inconvenience.
In summary, my complaint is that at 9:30 a.m. when they called to tell me that it wasn’t a tune up that my vehicle needed, but rather what I mentioned above and when I requested not to have the tune up done instead fix the problem, they responded that the tune up was already 80% completed in a period of 1 hr which they said it was going to take 5 hours to finish, yet when I went to pick up my van they said they just finished working on it at 5:00 p.m. So in essence the tune up couldn’t have been 80% completed and the work that my van needed was all that could’ve been done. The correct course of action would’ve been for the technician to grant my request. I feel that I was forced to pay for a service that I did not need nor requested in fact a service that I told them not to proceed with.
When I spoke to the manager on Saturday morning to get my headlights repaired, he admitted that it was wrong of them to proceed with the tune up and all he can do was match another’s company’s price on new tires – so in order for me to receive some kind of compensation from the company I have to spend additional money?
We are very sorry to hear this please contact me at jre@russdarrow.com to allow me to assist in anyway possible. We value ALL OF OUR customers and will go above and beyond to help
They lie like rugs!
Below is a interchange we had with Russ Darrow Mazda. Don't bother dealing with them. They lie like rugs!
Andy,
Well, we would be interested in driving to get a good deal. I am not quite sure Russ Darrow of Greenfield is a dealership we would want to deal with...?
Saturday's dealings sure didn't put Russ Darrow or you in a very good light. We wasted a lot of time with nothing to show for it. Since I was skeptical about the $6,000 discount, I specifically asked you if Mazda 5s were discounted $6,000. You said without hesitation "Yes". You asked if I could immediately drive down to the dealership to sign a deal because this discount was for the week before BUT you would honor it if we signed the deal that Saturday (July 22nd).
You thought the dealership had a blue Mazda 5 Sport with sunroof and the popular equipment package but would check the inventory and get back to me in a half an hour. Well, a hour and half later I hadn't heard from you. I couldn't understand this especially since the urgency you expressed in us coming down to Greenfield immediately. So I called you to find out what the heck was going on. When we finally connected you had not checked the inventory. You said you would check the inventory and call back in 5 minutes or less. 10 minutes later I got a call, at least it wasn't 3 times the original time mentioned. You talked about a vehicle without a sunroof (Specially asked for that option) and offered the vehicle for over $18,000. Needless to say I was blown away by the price. A lot higher than what we have been quoted by other dealers and substantially higher than the $6,0000 discount from MSRP we had talked about earlier.
Taking into consideration the above occurrences, would a 2 hour plus round trip drive be worth only $500 to you?
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: Andy
To: gmjmz
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 9:51 AM
Subject: Russ Darrow Mazda
HOW FAR WOULD YOU DRIVE TO SAVE MONEY?!?!? Greg, I am prepared to beat your best deal on an equally equipped Mazda 5 by $500. Is the 60 mile drive worth $500 to you? I know there may have been poor communication on my behalf in regard to our Ad, but we have never lost a customer over price! That is why we are #1 in Wisconsin for volume. I hope you will consider this offer and
let me know either way. I look forward to hearing from you Andy O Harrow
Internet Sales Manager Russ Darrow Mazda [protected]-5800
One would think you would be happy and grateful that you were finally getting your car. It sounded like you have bad credit and only had so many options available. It sounded like Russ Darrow also spent 3 weeks of their time going back and forth ttying to find you the make and model you wanted. But you never got into the cost of the car, how much money you had to put down and what monthly payment you could afford.
I am assuming that you were only approved for a certain amount and the bank wouldn't approve the cars you wanted. That's why they told you the car you wanted had too many miles on it.
We all want all the options but if the bank is only lending you a certain amount, and somebody at Russ Darrow spent 3 weeks trying to find you the make and model you had to have and the price and miles the bank had to have, I would think you would have been grateful for all the effort everyone put in at Russ Darrow to get you approved and driving a Ford Edge which was what you wanted. You had been going round and round for weeks so you knew what you could afford and when you test drove the car you liked it enough to purchase it. You knew it didn't have leather and said you were ok with that. You drove the car at 8:30 at night and you must have turned on the lights. Didn't have a problem turning them on then. In fact, you probably didn't notice reaching your hand out to turn them on because it's simple to do. You have to start the car to drive it and don't complain about that. You were ok not having leather. You drove the car, you were happy, satisfied, you were ok with the price, they sold you a warranty at cost that you bought.
So, why are you complaining when you should be grateful. You got everything you wanted. You drove it. You liked it, you bought it.
What bothers you is it didn't come with satellite and you were either ok with that or it wasn't important enough to check.
Would you not have bought the car that night if they told you it didn't come with satellite?
You bought a warranty at cost that night. If they offered to sell you satellite at cost that night, you would have bought it if you really had to have it.
And Russ Darrow offered to sell it to you at cost now so again, what are you complaining about?
I am positive the bank would only lend you the wholesale value of the car. Because of this, they couldn't mark up the car. They really didn't make anything selling you that car. The reason they kept telling you to leave and that they did not want to sell you a car is because of that very reason. They got you approved on a chevy and then you changed your mind and made them go through everything all over on another car that they knew the bank wouldn't approve. You wasted their 3 weeks. And not just one persons. You waisted finance, the manager, salesperson and not just Brown Deer, you were getting Madison to jump and Nissan, and who knows how many Internet reps. Good god. All this and you got exactly what you wanted.
So ungrateful.
I received a credit offer from Russ Dartow Honda on Brown Deer road so I looked at their used car inventory and found a car I liked. I called first and then went to the dealership on Saturday to complete my financing so they could get the car from another location on Monday morning. On Monday I spoke with them and was told the car was sold. I then called the Madison location and was informed that the car was still for sale. I called Russ Darrow Honda back and explained that there must be a mistake because Madison said they have the car. They called me back after they said they investigated and said someone was thinking about buying the car but thought it had mechanical issues and that they would not sell the car to me because it was " a piece if c*** ". Over the next few days and evenings they had me go through their online inventory and choose another vehicle. Each vehicle I chose was "sold ". For two nights we were called to come drive vehicles they thought I would like . I should mention all these cars were on their lot or the one. 5 miles away. After I went and drove the cars I was told that they had too many miles for my financing. When I asked why you would have me come and drive them they just shrugged their shoulders. They then found a car I was interested in and I drove it and sat down to go the paperwork. The sale an came to me and told me the monthly payment and I said for what car? It was several thousand more than the Internet price, I was also told I had to buy an expensive warranty and pay an extra thousand dollars since my credit wasn't great. Funny, I thought the high interest rate was my punishment for my lower credit score. All the sudden all the salesmen left and the General Manager came out and was very brief with me. When I questioned the huge increase I was told that this deal would not work and he stood up and shook our hands and said goodnight, no car! I called about each car from other Russ Darrow lots that they said had been sold and each was was still for sale. It became clear to me that they were only going to sell me a car from their lot or their nearby Nissan lot. The last car I called to see about was at their Appleton store and I got a very nice saleswoman named Sadie that said yes that particular car was still for sale and she was looking at it! She then asked what was going on and I told her my story. I filled out their credit app so she could get me the original car from Madison but the next day it really was sold. She worked very hard to make it right and set me up with their Corporate Finance Director, Spencer. He was very nice and arranged for me to purchase one of the cars I was interested in and asked me to go to the Russ Darrow Nissan store at 11;00 on Saturday morning to sign the finance papers and take delivery of the car. I was told that Nick their GM would handle it personally and Spencer assured me Nick would have it all ready for me. I arrived and was offered a seat and a young salesman approached and let me know that Nick would be coming in later and that the car Spencer arranged financing for had been sold the previous Monday! ( this car is still to this day being advertised on their website). I did not get upset just asked if there was a similar vehicle that I could look at. For the next three hours we looked at several car but none like the Ford Edge I was there to buy. After three hours of this I walked across the showroom to a desk with about 5 men sitting there and said I was not interested in buying the Chevy traverse they were pushing on me and that at this point they should call other locations and try to find a Ford Edge. I let them know that I would pay more and deserved to be given that option. A man then spun around his chair and asked me what I did for a living (sales) and asked me if people walked into my office and told be how to do my job? I said no but it's been three hours and I have had a very bad Russ Darrow experience. This gentleman which I discovered was indeed Nick said " not at this location" I said your wrong I arrived this morning to take home a car that you didn't even realize was already sold so I am having a problem with this location! He then said I am denying you a sale and goodby!
I couldn't believe this happened again! I had someone else with me on both occasions that assured me I was polite and very understanding and way to patient with them. I cried all afternoon and just felt like I didn't understand why this was happening to me, all I was trying to do was give them business and pay for a car! I called Spencer and he apologized and said he would buy a ford edge at auction for me on Monday and get one like I wanted. He indicated that this was not common practice but since I had such a poor experience with Russ Darrow that he wanted to do this for me. He said to be available by phone so he could get my ok before he bought a car at auction. I cleared my work calendar and waited for his call. He texted me later to say that there wasn't a match and that it would take some time to find what I wanted. I was emotionally exhausted, behind on work ( I have two jobs) so I went back on their site and found a newer model that was a few thousand dollars more and asked him to work up the numbers for me. He kept saying the price was not listed but on their mobile site it showed the
Price, when I pulled it up on my laptop it did say call for price. He told me he was not making money and giving me it at cost but the amount was the same as it said on their mobile site. The VIN numbers were the same so I knew it was the same car. He was generous and gave me a warranty at cost and the price was fair so I said ok I'll take it. He had to get the car from Madidon and have it delivered to the Waukesha location. I asked if I could come in the next day but he said my financing would expire if I did not go that night. The Internet listing ( which I have pictures of) said the car had leather seats and Sirius radio and blue tooth and many other upgrades offered on the base SE model. I arrived and the car was still being cleaned and I was helped by the best Russ Darrow employee I had encountered, Junior. He took all my information and introduced me to the finance manager. In the meantime he showed me the car and let me drive it. It was 8:30 by then and dark and I was not feeling well so I depended on the description of the vehicle and honestly did not inspect to see if every option was there. I saw the LCD screens and the button for the Bluetooth phone and the Sirius satellite button so I believed it was there and it was late and I wanted to sign the papers and go home. I also knew I had to subscribe to Sirius radio and I would have to read the manual to learn how to set up the blue tooth so I figured I would do that in the morning. I realized the seats were not leather as advertised but I was fine with that as I was so sick of Russ Darrow and the process that I just wanted it to be over. This took up three valuable weeks of my life. I pushed the phone and Sirius button on my car the next morning and the LCD screen said this option was not installed on this vehicle! I called Junior and he said he would call Spencer and find out what to do about it. 48 hours later and no call back I just texted Spencer. He said I chose the car and he gave me such a great price that they lost money ( I paid the stated Internet price) so there was nothing he could do about it and that their Internet ads were often incorrect. He said they rely on the cars vin #s to give them those details and they are often incorrect and there is nothing he could do but sell me the Sirius radio at dealer cost and while he values me as a customer he is not able to do anymore for me. I also noticed tonight that my car has manual headlight! What car in 2013 has manual headlights, it was not advertised that way! To sum it up I was a patient customer that only stuck with Russ Darrow after several unpleasant experiences because one nice saleswoman put me together with the finance guy who kept my business because he was able to get me a great interest rate. I am not a gluten for punishment and this was the only reason I kept going back. They wore me down until I bought a car that was falsely advertised as having features it did not, the one owner it advertised was a car rental company and my purchase was rushed. Yes I could have examined it in the dark with a fine tooth comb but I didn't and I am stuck paying. $430 a month for a vehicle that doesn't have many of the advertised options. They got me, good job! I am a very outspoken saleswoman from two prominent Milwaukee families that own half a dozen businesses (they spend several hundred thousand dollars on fleets every January ) and I am very active in the community. I will be sure to share my Russ Darrow experience. This is a good case for you never know who you are meeting and how far their voice can be heard. Spencer never saw the car and I know he had no bad intentions and Sadie (Appleton) and Junior (Waukesha) represented Russ Darrow well. As for all the other employees I dealt with at their Honda and Nissan stores I consider them liars and wasters of my valuable time. I was lied to, called a silly White lady ( yes this happened at the Honda store), insulted, made to feel as if i was being difficult, dismissed and denied a car purchase by two dealerships, and finally purchased a car that was falsely advertised! I would say Russ Darrow has a lot work to go on their business practices!
Brevity is the soul of whit
"Brevity is the soul of wit", not whit. Although, "brevity is the soul of whit" is wittier
We are very sorry to hear this please contact me at jre@russdarrow.com to allow me to assist in anyway possible. We value ALL OF OUR customers and will go above and beyond to help
People; Beware of Russ Darrow Mazda Greenfield, WI (Service Shop)
Our vehicle was in their Service shop for a month and a half. It went in with an engine problem they and our extended warranty confirmed yet, learned we now had another dilemma. After their shop installed a rebuilt engine; we were notified the transmission had multiple faulty codes and that they would have to tare down the transmission to further diagnose the problem.
My husband and I authorized them to proceed and we were told that they found the pump was bad and that this was a pre-existing condition however, many people told me not to believe that. I was told if our vehicle ever had transmission problems, there would signs such as:
Transmission gear slippage, Transmission non-engagement, slow delayed gear shifts - we never had any of these issues...
So, I decided to do a little homework and did some research online and obtained VERY interesting results which prompted me to get a second opinion...
I contacted a certified mechanic whose specialized in transmissions telling him what was going on and per the information I gave him; he says it sounded as though these issues arose due to an improper engine installation; and was the exact search results I got online!
So, I took him to Russ Darrow Mazda and while he was inspecting the transmission, he pointed out a couple problem areas which showed signs that the torque converter was not placed in correctly and is what caused the internal damages to the transmission. This is when he asked to see the torque converter and was shocked when I learned this part got transferred to another shop! The mechanic asked the Service Manager why if they were stating there was nothing wrong with the torque converter they sent it out where now it's looking as though it was re-manned.
It was evident this was NOT a pre-exiting issue; it was an issue caused by their shops negligence! The Service Manager was agitated and was all up in the mechanics face; not to mention how he was unprofessional using profanity and degrading a product that they sell/advertise on a day-day basis..
Til this day, The Service Manager has been uncooperative. He has repeatedly declined to provide my husband and I with copies of their work order, technicians report on what was found upon their diagnostic, the shop involved who re-manned our toque converter which he alleges was done without his approval... ALSO: we have no record where our Extended Warranty requested Russ Darrow Mazda to transfer our torque converter except for Mazda's allegations; however, they insist they have documentation. WELL - where is it!?
So, it got to a point where my husband and I got fed up because clearly we were not getting any result; we asked several of Mazda's personnel to speak to a General Manager and no one was able to come up with a name of who we could contact.
So, here again, I am now playing detective. I went into the BBB and found Russ Darrow's Corp office in Menomonee Falls and the following morning; made it our decision to file a complaint. We explained our situation and how we have been unfairly treated and how we felt we shouldn't have to be paying any extra costs for the replacement of the transmission. My husband and I were told that they would be contacting Mazda's Service Manager and call me back with how we can get this resolved.
Being the fact this is the home office, my husband and I were peace minded with the thought we were going to see a positive outcome. WRONG! Rather than hearing back from the Corporate office, we got a call from the Service Manager who we were clearly having problems with.
He called to inform my husband and I they had another vehicle in their shop with transmission issues and that as an option, they would replace our pump with this other one. The problem was, they were not guaranteeing that our vehicle would last us more than a couple days... Are you kidding me!? What type of bogus offer is that!?
I lost my patience and demanded Mazda provided me with copies of EVERYTHING under our file however, I was bribed. I was told the only way they would release our documents was when we removed our vehicle from their shop... I did not want to hear it no more and I hung up...
Now I am ticked off and contact their corporate office once more and request to speak to the lady who took my complaint. Before I allowed a conversation, I informed her I was monitoring "recording" the call. It sounded as though she was trying to get rowdy however, noticed a change of tone the min I announced I was recording our conversation.
I asked her why rather hearing back from her, I was getting a bogus offer from their Mazda Service Manager.? I also told her I did not appreciate how she told me she was going to get back to me and having to hear from someone else. I also told her that how we've requested our records and are not being released and demanded she finds out why and for her to get these over to me.. "Just so you know - she never got them"
So, I am running out of options and started to look again and found this posting from:
Brad Whippo (5/20/2009)
General Manager
Russ Darrow Mazda Super Store
**offers to help/assures you a wonderful experience**
I looked him up on Facebook PPL! And found he has an account. I sent him a message stating I had a problem with the Mazda Shop and that I had found his posting and asked him for help. I left him my cell ph# and waited for him to correspond.
The following day I received a message from him. He told me the name of the person's Service Manager is ***** and suggested I talk to him. I was fuming and very disappointed. Clearly, Mazda, the Corporate office and were giving me the run around and got that same impression of him. I told him how I was disappointed and how he's not reliable as he portrayed himself to be. I also told him that the Service Manager was my issue and that the Corp office was also aware however - it all stood the same... He wrote back and told me he was off that day however, that he'd talk to the Service Manager the following day and left it at that. I of course apologized because I know I was rude. But, explained how their product was degraded and was being forced to have our un-drivable vehicle from the Mazda shop with the condition of getting our documents. I also informed Brad that this was an ongoing issue 2 days straight and found they were violating ATCP 132 and that I was going to make that known with the bureau.
I never got any further correspondence HOWEVER, I was now getting a call from a General Manager in sales from Mazda offering to buy our vehicle which is under a bankruptcy and has a debt of $7000.00; clearly this was not a problem for them as long as the bank gave them a clean title... Where does this leave my husband and I? Well, the plan which was not 100% guarantee to be a success was to try and get us in a new car. I knew then and there that was not going to work; our credit is doomed.
My question was: why if their willing to buy our vehicle which still has a debt of $7000.00, they would not replace the transmission (which would be a $4, 000.00 savings). The Manager in sales knew that was logical however, he was only following instructions...
So, this was now looking to become a legal matter which died out because Mazda offered to replace our transmission with a used one as a "goodwill gesture". Right!
My question is, WHY if you know this was not a wrong doing, you will offer to buy our vehicle and now replace our transmission for free..?
This is the problem: There were wayyy tooo mannyyy verbal agreements made from Sept 22 until recent. Because I did not get anything in writing for example: Rental bill - is reasons my husband and I now have to pay close to $700 for a week our Warranty will later reimburse us for however, is money we still lose because we have to pay the portion of the insurance my husband added ($490 with some change). I was under the impression that Mazda covered the entire Rental bill when clearly - they didn't...
The purpose of me posting this is so people out there know how my husband and I were hassled. This situation has taught us a lesson; Know and Fight for your rights as a Consumer! If you have questions about things, ask. If you don't understand, ask again. Still in doubt; continue asking until you get a satisfying answer. About these repair contracts: Ensure you understand the whole concept; These shops don't require your signature and can simply use your verbal authorization. Matter of fact, I was sent this link and found it to be very useful; check it out if you feel you are being victimized...
http://legis.wisconsin.gov/rsb/code/atcp/atcp132.pdf
When dealing with an extended warranty, ensure the shop is giving you ALL the information anytime it involve s a claim. My husband and I never knew our Extended Warranty would have paid the entire claim with a no out of pocket expense for us if we would have chosen a used engine. This is why we were stuck with a repair bill close to $700.00. Know your options and don't let anyone chose for you; if you can afford to pay a little more, then so be it. But, again, that should be your call and no one else's.
IF you're in a situation where you're inconvenienced due to an issue you have no control of where the shop makes you an offer, get it done in writing! I can never understand how certain verbal agreements are acknowledged and for others it's of no use...
So, if you suspect you're rights are being violated; know there are options. Be smart and let other peoples experiences guide/serve you as an example...
I cant believe people could be so stupid, WHAT?! No free 10, 000 car with purchase? What!? The price that is thousands less than the competetors isnt real?! How old are you people? You get what you pay for. If you fork over some profit to the dealer the process goes much smoother. Trust me. There is no such thing as a free lunch losers.
I was MOST dissatisfied with Russ Darrow of Wauwatosa. We went in yesterday (May 19, 2009) to inquire into their 2-for-1 deal. According to the email I received, I was eligible to select a used car (valued up to $10, 000) when I purchased a new car. It sounded a bit too good to be true, but they had a similar deal in January, ostensibly with great success. When we arrived, we discovered, to our horror, that the ad was FALSE, and that we would only be able to apply the rebate ($500) from the purchase of the new car that we wanted towards a used car. Some deal! The salesman was not even aware of a concurrent promotion, which would have netted an additional $500 credit. After running some preliminary numbers, the finance man suggested that we could pay around $475/month for a Kia Spectra, and and additional $106/month for the used car we liked. $400+/month for a KIA? What a joke!
What a misleading advert! 2-for-1? No way! 2-for-2...that's more like it. This is NO deal. Why would this be anything special?!? I could easily get the same, if not better, from a reputable dealer on a better car.
I'm glad Russ Darrow was so soundly defeated in his bid for the US Senate seat for Wisconsin.
My name is Brad Whippo and I am the General Manager at Russ Darrow Mazda. I am sorry to hear about the experiences that some folks have had in the past. I will tell you that I have worked for the Darrow Family for a number of years, and they have always worked hard to take care of their employees and customers. We go the extra mile to take care of our customers, and I can tell you from personal experience, that most every call from folks that have problems, are resolved immediatly. My door is always open and my cell phone is on 24 hours a day. I meet most of my customers and they have my business card with my personal cell number. I am proud to say that we are the number one volume Mazda Franchise in Wisconsin, and that only happens when you take great care of your customers. I invite the folks who have had less than pleasant experiences to come and visit. I would like to meet you. I can assure you that you will have a great experience!
Brad Whippo
General Manager
Russ Darrow Mazda Super Store
I think it's very unfortunate that these folks had such unpleasant experiences at our stores. I have been with the Russ Darrow group for 6 years and have hundreds of happy customers. The owners, Russ and Mike are wonderful people and very conscientous and community minded. Most of our dealerships have a 95% or higher customer satisfaction rating in both sales and service. I would invite anyone with an issue to contact me.
Dan Shutts,
Operations Manager
I strongly agree! apparently the lying goes across all Russ Darrow locations.
Chantel and Kevin Wilson from the 91st and brown deer location.. STEER CLEAR OF THEM.
SORRY FOR THE PUN.
pathetic, liars, unprofessional
the whole 9..
Filled out an application and a credit check was run at one location... ended up having to go to the 91st and Brown Deer location. Based on a call from Chantel. The salesman, Kevin WIlson supposedly cant get a hold of anyone regarding my original application... subsequently the loan was not approved due to " some things I am not sure"
apparently it doesnt take much to be hired there.. just an unscrupulous lying nature...
I would never recommend anyone go to Russ Darrow if they need a car...
I've had the same bad experience with Russ Darrow. My wife and I bought a new Mazda 3 there and we were lied to time and time again. We had the car for a week and when we filled it with gas for the first time we found it was a quart low on oil and there was no coolant in the overflow tank. When we were signing the papers they said they were cleaning the car and inspecting it, job well done. I brought the car back to have them check the motor for damage (they probably never did anything) and to have the car undercoated, rust proofed and paint protection applied. When I came to get the car I was told it was done, but when I looked under the car nothing had been undercoated! When I pointed it out the service manager told me "they did the wheel wells really well", I didn't pay all that money to only have the wheel wells coated and they weren't even sprayed with anything! The next day they undercoated the car, again it was a c****y job. When I got the car home I removed a door panel to check the rust proofing and found it was not done as well. After 2,000 miles the paint started chipping off the rocker panels and door bottoms. They repainted the car and added mud flaps and a few months later the paint started coming off again. It was repainted again (a very poor job). I was told the orange peel was a chip guard, I'm not stupid and I could see the stone chips below the new paint. I was lied to many times by these guys, they will look you in the eye and lie. I would never buy another car from them or suggest anybody buy a car from them. I fought with them (and Mazda USA) for over a year and finally sold my car. It was the worst car experience I've ever had!
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