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boiler and engineer scammers

After a number of failed shows, I had a boiler engineer from plumbforce direct come to my flat to apparently fit a PRV valve and fix the expansion valve for which I got charged £371.40. 3 days later it broke down and the engineer failed to show an further two times so was left with the only option to find an alternative engineer from a different company. The alternative boiler engineer told me in fact no PRV valve had been replaced and there would have been no point sorting the expansion valve as it had a hole in it. He's taken photos so I have proof and he suggested I had been scammed.
I was dealing with Dylan Ross and Scott Hall and was told by Scott I'd receive half of the invoice back and this hasn't materialised.
In the last 4 weeks I have called plumbforce direct, namely Scott Hall and Dylan Ross over 25 times and today had the pleasure of Scott putting the phone down on me.
They tell you countless times they'll sort the problem and then just ignore you, take your money and rip you off.
The MD is Stuart Hall and I've raised a complaint with him but not optimistic I'll hear back. I'll be in touch with trading standards as this company should not be operating.
AVOID AT ALL COSTS

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    Lacy McPherson Jan 14, 2020

    Did you pay with a card? Request a chargeback, even if it's a debit rather than credit card. It will work.

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    Lisa ter Haar Feb 24, 2020

    The only way to get your money back is to take out a warrant with the High Court. Email them at [email protected] The County Court route is a waste of time. But these people seem to be on the game. I hope!

    After some work and research I have located a home address for Mr Stuart Hall

    Mr Stuart Hall
    20-22 Wenlock Road London N1 7GU

    Plumbforce Direct Ltd only provide a correspondence and ofificial registered addresses where no one actually works and the bailiffs are turned away. But No Longer Mr Hall!!

    I am now actioning a warrant for over £1800.

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boiler repair

Copied from my Trust Pilot review:

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This company needs to be brought to it's knees!! Bunch of heartless, money-grabbing crook scum, left me with no heating and hot water over Christmas and tried to convince me that my boiler needed servicing even though it had been last year! The engineer then took a different tack, charging me £360 to rewire a perfectly wired boiler. In desperation I paid half, though fortunately by credit card so my money will be refunded. After, 2.5 hours, engineer said he couldn't fix it as it '(probably) needs a new PCB' for which Sylvie at the office quoted 'a ball park figure' of £495 PLUS VAT after ALOT of coercion!!! I dread to think how much they prey on the elderly/vulnerable

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    Lacy McPherson Jan 14, 2020

    Did you pay with a card? Request a chargeback, it will work (even if it's a debit rather than credit card). Not only does this work, but it is very bad for their card processing costs and credit and so forth.

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boiler repair

Do not use. As many other reviewers on other websites, I had the experience being scammed (over a thousand pounds of damage).

Didn't have hot water for a week during which the plumber came in at least 4 times, switched parts and charged us >1k. (Later it turned out none of these parts needed to be replaced).

After yet another time they said a new part needs to be bought, I called another service, everything was fixed within an hour, no parts required.

Called to submit a complaint and demand a refund, but they keep referring to other people who are "not available" and promise to call back. Never once anybody called back in 2 weeks.

They also kept saying that they reply with resolutions to written complaints, but that is a a lie as well.

I wasn't sure at first if that is incompetence or a scam, but after reading comments, it's pretty clear it is the latter.

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    Lacy McPherson Jan 14, 2020

    Did you pay with a card? Request a chargeback, it will work (even if it's a debit rather than credit card). Not only does this work, but it is very bad for their card processing costs and credit and so forth.

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unlocking of drainage

Hi
On the phone I was quoted £70+VAT and assured it will be fixed and in what ever case I will not pay more than what I was quoted. I explained to the lady on the phone what the issue was and she assured me once more it will be sorted. To my surprise, when the plumber came, he did the basics, tried plunging few times, looked outside my wall and said a machinery would be needed for additional £275+VAT!! He didnt even try to remove my washing machine to look behind where the pipes are! Not even a manual rod! I said it's not what I was told and quoted! I refused to pay even the £70+VAT because he hardly tried doing anything! I was threatened by a debt collectors too. I tried calling the number I used before to clarify the situation and the quote, and of course it was not reachable!!

complaint

Terrible service full of tricks and psychological hoops and loops to get you to pay as much as possible - conduct work that you dont need doing, taking cash in hand, trying to push you in to a decision quickly to close money on you. I smelled a fish from the second the guy started to ask if I had kids and tell me horror stories about the boiler that I know every other plumber says is awesome - that he was trying to plant seeds of fear in my brain. Luckily I am savvy - but I am so angry that if that was my dad - he'd be ripped of a 1000GBP there and then by these charlatans. Please investigate and remove their services!

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I saw the entry on the internet for Plumbforcedirect and called them up. The person I spoke to their employee (Sylvie) who said that they would come for £85 plus Vat to unblock one kitchen drain. I insisted specifically that it was not a plunger job but that we needed the machine used to unblock a drain. She responded that the price of the work would be the quoted £85 + Vat even if that was required. When their operative came on the 13th June he said that the £85 was only for a plunger job and said that the work would cost £240 +Vat.
When I told him that I had been quoted £85 he phoned his firms office and then I was told that the price would be £190 + Vat. Since that still did not correspond with the original offer made over the phone I refused to proceed and the operative left our house. However as soon as the operative left I rang their office and talked to Sylvie about this change of pricing and then she threatened to send a debt collector. This is clearly a case of gross misrepresentation and this firm should be taken to court for such activities.
I have since checked on the reputation of this firm on the internet and found that they have behaved similarly and worse with other customers.
Regards
JoelleStockley

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Hi we contacted Plumbforce Direct as we have 4 blocked toilets. As we are a business we could not afford to wait too long. They said they could get an engineer to us between 3 - 5. Quoted £80 + VAT for call out which included the 1st hour while they plunged away. We were informed if machinery was necessary they would charge an additional £75 + VAT for each 30 minutes. The plumber turned up around 2.30, went and plunged for 5 minutes only for him to say he's cleared the toilets but would be worth using the machinery to clear the excess in the pipes. You take their advice as they are the experts but now I know it's to line their pockets. They quoted £380 + VAT. I thought the job would take a couple of hours based on the prices given to us by their call centre. When the plumber finished the job, in under an hour for both plunging and machinery, I asked a simple question - please could you give me a breakdown on the cost? He got very defensive and said you have agreed to the price. I said I know but would like to understand how the figure was calculated as based on the figures quoted over the phone it should have only been £155 + VAT. The comment that shocked me the most was "if you want to pay on the hourly rate I'll go and get my toolbox and go back to your toilets" I responded by saving so you have ripped us off as you are saying you would stay here longer to clock up the hours. In the end he got his manager on the phone who gave him the price to charge (Scott's home number) who I spoke with and explained the situation. He was like it's £75 to use the machinery plus £45 for each man on site (there were 2) and you agreed to the price so thats a verbal agreement. My advice to him was to let customer service know that they should make the customer aware of the hidden costs so they can decide whether they wish for them to still come out.

I would not recommend this company to anyone. They are out to take your money. Don't be drawn in by their cheap prices and research them before asking for a visit. I learnt the hard way and I do not want them to continue treating others the same way.

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Good afternoon, I booked a job with your company for a new boiler, They quoted me £2400 for an unvented boiler which I paid a deposit for and the work was booked in for today 19.1.18 at 9.30am.

I had spoken to the service Manager Scott who confirmed the engineer who would be carrying out the work has G3 qualified and would have a certificate which he confirmed he was and able to carry out work on a unvented cylinder.

The engineers turned up at 10.30am which was an hour late with no ID and no certificates, when I rang gas safe they informed me that the engineers certificate had elapsed and that they were not qualified to carry out the work.

I spoke to Scott again this morning and he said I was to get the engineer to carry out the work and he would get some to sign it off on Monday which I responded is not legal as he is not trained to carry out the work.

Scott then informed me that you would get someone to carry out the work on Monday, which means I have no hot water all weekend. I informed scott to cancel the job and refund my deposit. I also sent him an email this morning at 11.30am asking him to let me know when this has been done which he have still not responded to.

I had taken a day off work for this work to be carried out and the work was not done.

I would like someone to contact me to confirm that the money is being refunded.

I would also like a response about the complaint regarding your company sending out unqualified engineers and a date of when my deposit is going to be refunded. Also as a manager Scott should beware of how to handle dissatisfied customers, not to respond to a customer after bad service is unacceptable

Kind regards
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Service was simply changing toilet syphon and seal. Ieven sent scott a picture of the syphon so that a like for like replacement could be done.
The first plumber didn't show up for the 8 am to 10 am slot. The office manager, Scott, kept promising to call me back in a few minutes and then not returning my calls. I should have smelt a rat and used someone cheaper, like Pimlico! The first plumber turned up the following day in the evening and quote £250 including VAT but wanted cash upfront. The office had told me that cash payment was not correct, so I sent him away.
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On realising that the work was not correct (the toilet wouldn't flush) a third plumber came. He was also late. He confirmed that the wrong part had been fitted, disappeared for an hour to "get a new part" and fitted the correct part in 20 minutes.
Then I get confirmation that my credit card has not been credited with the promised £105. On waiting on hold for Scott I listen to the marketing which report "we respect your time... if we are late we will pay you" Tis is completely false. The first time I challenged Scott on the meaning of this promise, he said that the plumber will requite the work if he is late - didn't happen for me. The next time I asked him about this, a couple of weeks later as again the £105 refund hadn't gone through, he said it means that the customer gets a £25 discount if the plumber is late. Well I have had three late plumbers and more than 10 unreturned calls. Now Scott tries to tell me that the £105 refund that I haven't received is in connection to the plumbers being late and not the original overcharging.
I have been trying to escalate the problem to the FD Stuart, but as they are related and share the same surname of Hall, it is hard to tell if Stuart has the same poor attitude to customer care as Scott, or if Scott is simply so poor he just doesn't pass on the request.
I understand that the company does not have a complaints procedure. my advice would be not to be taken in by their lovely telephone manner, save you time and money and go to a different plumber.
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Disgusting Company

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