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Leadership Team Development amway/ leadership team development ibo opportunity complaint

Amway and it's associated "training and mentorship" organization Leadership Team Development (LTD) are a destructive cult as well as a product based pyramid scheme. I was apart of Amway/LTD during the span of about four months in 2018. I was in the Chesapeake, Virginia chapter of the organization for reference. From the start, I was lied to about the time required to be "successful" in this "business opportunity" as they claim it only takes 10-15 but in reality it's more like 40 hours 7 days a week. Second, they brain wash people into think this a legit business/ mentorship opportunity when it is actually just an Amway commissioned based sales job. No real business tips are discussed it's all hype, emotion, and selling a dream of being rich in 2-5 years by recruiting more people into scheme. Selling the overpriced/ mediocre products to actual costumers is not the priority, recruiting is. They demand IBO's (Independent Business Owners) or Amway sales reps to buy 300 dollars worth of products themselves and just pressure others to do the same so people upline in the pyramid can profit.

Additionally, the uplines/diamonds or "mentors" are some of the most arrogant and gross human beings I have ever meet. They do everything in their power to brainwash people in this organization. They mock, belittle, and shame anyone this is critical of Amway or the business model (that is structured like an pyramid scheme). They teach people to hate their actual jobs, instill in the idea that Amway is the only way to be successful in life. My mentors have gone on record to imply that college is a waste of time, jobs are prisons, and starting a legit small business is a waste of time. They also want complete CONTROL of your life. They want people to check with upline before they spend money on entertainment or even food. All extra money should be spend on Amway/ LTD conferences, books, audios, and products (again this is so uplines and diamonds can collect a paycheck AKA pyramid scheme practices). They also teach people to not associate with family or friends unless they support the amway business ( cult tactics).

I lost a freelance job that assisted with my legitimate entrepreneurship efforts of building a digital marketing company. My upline pressured me to got to a LTD conference and got pretty angry when I questioned going. I also felt embarrassed by the tactics my sponsor and upline taught me such as lying to my friends about the business opportunity and more. Many others lost marriages, and relationships with other important people in their life thanks to the advice of uplines in LTD. None of the uplines in LTD are held accountable for the lives they have destroyed by their arrogance and deception.

I lost around 800 dollars in the months I was in as well as the freelance job and lost great relationships with former friends. I write this complaint in hopes others will NOT join Amway or LTD as it is a pyramid scheme and a dangerous cult.

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Was misinformed about everything from "auto-replenish programs", payment structures, and even how much time was actually needed from me.
The group I was in specifically was racist (encouraging me not to reach out to colleauges from hbcu's and did not want any more "black people" in his group) even though he, himself was black.
We are encouraged to attend all meetings so they can constantly emphasize the same points and messages drilled to us during conferences, meetings, and those god-forsaken audios).
At the conference, I was sleep deprived and we were not given meals and most venues don't allow out outside food. Each session was at least 5-6 hours long and afterwards the uplines ("leaders") would want to meet even longer in these sessions called "night owls".
I've witnessed people falling asleep everywhere from behind the stage to behind the wheel.
This company is insideous in nature and I would outright call it a... Cult...

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Leadership Team Development Unprofessional Conduct

My wife and I were in Amway Global under LTD for a couple years and did not have any noteworthy success (the business never paid for itself). Let me be clear on one point: We have absolutely no issue with Amway Global. Amway's business is straight-forward, no-nonsense, and their support personnel are very polite and helpful (and English-speaking). Picture yourself as having your own department in a local sales company, and say your boss gives you a commission based on your sales but also the performance of your entire department. Perfectly fair, right? The problems with Amway generally come from the third-party organizations that make up the base of distributors, such as LTD. In other words, Amway brings the pyramid, and the outside organization brings the scheme.

LTD's business model is based on getting the distributors to buy the products, rather than any real selling to customers. The idea is that each person who joins is expected to buy about $200/mo of products for their own use and sell another $100/mo of products to their families and friends (also saying that it'll be primarily things you were going to buy anyway... toothpaste and toilet paper and such). They accomplish this by talking people into signing up before they have any earthly idea how it works, and then the sponsor assists in doing the same for the new member's prospects.

The conferences were extremely loud. The testimony from those at the top was very motivating and inspirational. However the events are also extremely commercial... They do things like forbid outside food and drink, and then put up barricades in front of water fountains and cover them with trash bags so you have to buy bottles of water from the vendors at extreme prices. You know, I'm prone to dehydration, and I really don't spend hundreds of dollars and drive half a day to attend a conference just to be denied tap water. It's actually pretty rude. I didn't appreciate being treated that way.

We've been out of the business for a year or so now, although we've recently been giving some consideration to trying Amway with a more reliable organization. We recently had an incident with one of the higher-ups in LTD, someone in the third tier from the top. He was advertising his business on Facebook, and my wife responded with a one-liner like "We tried it, and it didn't work for us." I didn't actually get to read her original comment because the guy promptly deleted it and wrote her a very nasty message. They went back and forth a couple times, and then I gave him a piece of my mind, and we both blocked him. I'm not going to list his name or the full content of the messages at this time, but here are some excerpts.

"Thanks for the ignorant post on my wall... It didn't work for you because your lazy not because of LTD. Amway works no doubt. And considering that LTD is the fastest and most successful organization in Amway in North America, its kinda hard to say its LTD's fault either."

"We are successful in LTD and Amway... And you all are still struggling. Justification and blame.. Now its not LTD's fault, its 's fault..."

And he mentioned to get one more nasty message through to my dear wife before she got him blocked:

"Since your coward of a husband wrote me a message and then blocked me from responding because he is a gutless coward. Please let that ball-less male know that it was you that sent the first message not me...
I feel really bad for your kids to be honest. They have to grow up with parents who are cowards"

Apparently I'm a coward for blocking him. I guess it's socially expected of me to engage in some idiotic urinating contest with him until he's blue-as-a-sharpie in the face. Anyway, that was our experience with LTD. The local team was pretty nice, and we would occasionally go out to eat or go bowling, etc. But the higher-ups have a philosophy they teach you, which is either you're in, or you don't matter. In the end, we felt like we were deceiving people, and we made a conscience decision to part ways with LTD. This kind of behavior from people at the top of the organization just goes to show that we made the right decision.

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Leadership Team Development Unprofessional behavior by leaders

My wife and I were in Amway Global under LTD for a couple years and did not have any noteworthy success (the business never paid for itself). Let me be clear on one point: We have absolutely no issue with Amway Global. Amway's business is straight-forward, no-nonsense, and their support personnel are very polite and helpful (and English-speaking). Picture yourself as having your own department in a local sales company, and say your boss gives you a commission based on your sales but also the performance of your entire department. Perfectly fair, right? The problems with Amway generally come from the third-party organizations that make up the base of distributors, such as LTD. In other words, Amway brings the pyramid, and the outside organization brings the scheme.

LTD's business model is based on getting the distributors to buy the products, rather than any real selling to customers. The idea is that each person who joins is expected to buy about $200/mo of products for their own use and sell another $100/mo of products to their families and friends (also saying that it'll be primarily things you were going to buy anyway... toothpaste and toilet paper and such). They accomplish this by talking people into signing up before they have any earthly idea how it works, and then the sponsor assists in doing the same for the new member's prospects.

The conferences were extremely loud. The testimony from those at the top was very motivating and inspirational. However the events are also extremely commercial... They do things like forbid outside food and drink, and then put up barricades in front of water fountains and cover them with trash bags so you have to buy bottles of water from the vendors at extreme prices. You know, I'm prone to dehydration, and I really don't spend hundreds of dollars and drive half a day to attend a conference just to be denied tap water. It's actually pretty rude. I didn't appreciate being treated that way.

We've been out of the business for a year or so now, although we've recently been giving some consideration to trying Amway with a more reliable organization. We recently had an incident with one of the higher-ups in LTD, someone in the third tier from the top. He was advertising his business on Facebook, and my wife responded with a one-liner like "We tried it, and it didn't work for us." Any real business model should be able to withstand such a mild criticism, right? I didn't actually get to read her original comment because the guy promptly deleted it and wrote her a very nasty message. They went back and forth a couple times, and then I gave him a piece of my mind, and we both blocked him. I'm not going to list his name or the full content of the messages at this time, but here are some excerpts.

"Thanks for the ignorant post on my wall... It didn't work for you because your lazy not because of LTD. Amway works no doubt. And considering that LTD is the fastest and most successful organization in Amway in North America, its kinda hard to say its LTD's fault either."

"We are successful in LTD and Amway... And you all are still struggling. Justification and blame.. Now its not LTD's fault, its 's fault..."

And he mentioned to get one more nasty message through to my dear wife before she got him blocked:

"Since your coward of a husband wrote me a message and then blocked me from responding because he is a gutless coward. Please let that ball-less male know that it was you that sent the first message not me...
I feel really bad for your kids to be honest. They have to grow up with parents who are cowards"

Apparently I'm a coward for blocking him. I guess it's socially expected of me to engage in some idiotic urinating contest with him until he's blue-as-a-sharpie in the face. Anyway, that was our experience with LTD. The local team was pretty nice, and we would occasionally go out to eat or go bowling, etc. But the higher-ups have a philosophy they teach you, which is either you're in, or you don't matter. In the end, we felt like we were deceiving people, and we made a conscience decision to part ways with LTD. This kind of behavior from people at the top of the organization just goes to show that we made the right decision.

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Feb 04, 2013 10:44 pm EST

Funny that one person makes a whole buisness. Everyone I have ever worked with on this team has been completely courteous and helpful I'm not sure who you are really or where you are from but I can say this. Just because you had a bad experiance, I feel, does not give you the right to down play everyone including myself who are part of this organization. I hope you do find success if you start another Amway buisness. But I do wanna say I've never had problems getting to a water fountain... barricades... wow man.

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Leadership Team Development Scam and cheating

Yesterday I was interviewed for LTD and asked to attend a talk which would give me more details about the company (I didn't even get the name of the company until I asked). I wasn't allowed to keep the rep's brochure for 'tax purposes, ' so I knew something seemed out of place. Still, the talk was free, so I thought it couldn't hurt.

It was revealed during the talk that the 'supplier' of LTD's products is Amway, and as a contractor, the main source of my income would be getting new recruits, rather than selling products. The speaker literally spent about two minutes explaining how LTD and Amway are not pyramid scams (technically they aren't, but they're darn close), and then proceeded to confuse the definitions of a pyramid and a Ponzi scheme.

The worst part was that my current employment situation was used as an example of how bad the economy is, and how it's not as good a means of support as LTD. This is personal information that I did not give the speaker permission to share (he used my name in the presentation). I was later asked questions for demonstrative purposes that I gladly answered, but I still did not appreciate the first time I was used for his presentation.

LTD is supposed to be a web-based business, but it was clear that the speaker does not understand how eCommerce works. LTD's business model appears very weak, and requires constant recruitment to maintain any kind of cash flow. They create 'alternative' websites for companies to sell products, but why would a company need them? If a company can sell a product from its own online store, it makes no sense to pay someone else to sell it for them.

I was honestly tempted to just stand up and warn everyone in the room about this obvious MLM scam, but I opted to cause a scene and instead posted here. I hope the people who attended the talk get a chance to read this.

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Tyler Eschle
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May 29, 2019 2:51 pm EDT

Anybody on this thread that is calling out "scam" on LTD has no concept of credible research like looking at what the Dunn and Bradstreet report says or what the Better Business Bureau says. Not to mention that the Federal Trade Commission literally uses Amway's business compensation plan as the gold standard for companies that use a multi-level marketing business model. Furthermore, anyone here who thinks that any company using a MLM model is a scam should probably just waste their time doing something other than spouting uneducated nonsense that may keep others from stepping into an opportunity that could change their lives the way mine has been changed thanks to the mentorship and coaching I've received from the people who accepted me into LTD. Best of luck to everybody in their endeavors.

"Be a fountain for the world, not a drain."

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John 459
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Apr 14, 2019 11:09 am EDT

Im with another team with amway it it has been a great experience... not for everyone you paid off 300k because, that wasn’t all from amway but a mindset and a couple willing to sit down and help us with a game plan to get out of debt.. I asked for help and they did... my life is a lot better off because and couple gave us direction they have invested in us and help us in many ways. the key is the right coach and team. I have never in 39 yrs has any one mom, dad, teachers, friends have help me like my coaches have.. it’s a people business not perfect but better than working until you drop dead... what’s wrong with getting out debt, and at least you have a chance to become wealthy i’m realistic not everyone will put the work in to get it.. even if it’s helping someone make an extra 500 to 1000 that small amount changes lives... it’s a great thing i’m a better man, better father and better husband... I ask what is wrong with that... paying cash for cars.. when I had neck surgery it cost my 30k thanks to what I a couple helping setting a financial game plan I paid cash for it.. what’s wrong with that when you got 💰there are lot more options you don’t have with insurance what’s wrong with that? what other options do we have get in debt and dept work and play games... the problem is there is lack of real men in this country not willing to do something amazing...

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SolidBoss7
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Aug 03, 2022 5:08 pm EDT
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Yeaaaaa….you lost all credibility by attempting to gaslight with the “real men” comment. “Real men” don’t have to talk about being a real man. I’d be embarrassed to say something so weak.

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Jay B99
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Feb 24, 2019 1:31 pm EST

You are all idiots if youre NOT doing Amway. I know alot of platinums, emeralds, and beyond in the business and after seeing that it works I can conclude that you will all be broke the rest of your life if you don't change your mindset.

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JG443
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Dec 12, 2018 3:58 pm EST

I was recently approached by a married couple in a local supermarket. We small-talked, discussed some cooking styles and recipes, and next thing I know, we're talking about my current job and future financial goals. At first, I thought this was slightly weird, but then the conversation shifted to them; they spoke of their unhappiness with past careers, and how they knew they needed a change (exactly how I was feeling). They told stories of how they started working for a guy who did marketing and branding for major corporations (Apple, Under Armour, Nike, etc.); then they ended it with stories of how the guy they worked for retired in his 20's. Now at first, all of this sounded like a pitch - what made me think differently was the husband's use of key financial terminology. He said things like "6-figure passive income", "multiple streams of income", etc. Now me being a financially-intelligent individual, I'm very aware of how wealth is created in this country, and that's it! All the things I've wanted to start doing this year, but just haven't created the opportunities for myself; so I thought, maybe this was the time for me to stop talking, and start acting! We exchanged info and so the process begins...

Step 1) INITIAL CONTACT: They reached out to me, and we met up at a local coffee shop to discuss the business opportunity (I still don't know exactly what the business or business model is yet). They told me there was a four-step vetting process to ensure this opportunity was a good fit for both parties. I asked for more details regarding the business, and they would NOT tell me anything - not even the name; RED FLAG #1! They just reassured me of all the potential passive income I WILL be making if the business partners "approve" my partnership into the business. They also gave me a book to read, which spoke to the mindset needed to be a business owner vs. being a consumer. I absolutely loved the book, which is what ultimately kept me going through the process. But I still felt like something didn't feel right.

Step 2) DEBRIEF: About a week later, we met up again to discuss the book. I told them things that resonated from the book, some financial goals I had, and things I'd hope to accomplish within the next few years. They said the program could definitely help. Now prior to this meeting I had consulted with other friends who had been involved in pyramid-based businesses, and they ALL told me the same thing - it sounded like a pyramid scheme. They also told me that usually it's someone's job to get fresh new blood in front of the "guy" who will then present this grandiose opportunity that you are "privileged to be invited to", and try to sell you a service, product, subscription, etc. So with that in the back of my mind, I asked again for more specifics on the business. I still got nothing, but this time they wrote out a McDonald's franchise-owner example, and then talked about Robert Kiyosaki (writer of Rich Dad Poor Dad) RED FLAG #2. They ended the meeting by scheduling another follow-on meeting, but this time I needed to dress up because this is when I get to meet the business partners. It was at this meeting where allll my questions would be answered...

Step 3) HOOK, LINE, AND STUPID: Originally, they told me the meeting would be at one of the partner's house, and they would send me an address. Of course this sounds sketchy; I mean who in today's world would just show up to a random person's house?! I knew once I got the address, if it was someone's house, there was NO WAY I was going. Well the day of the meet, I get an address about 2 hours before the scheduled time. Sure enough, it wasn't someone's house, it was a hotel (good thing for Google maps)... RED FLAG #3! Who lies about the location of a business meeting?! At this point, I knew whatever it was, I didn't want any part of it - but sheer curiosity still had me go. I had to know what it was! As soon as I walk-in, there's a bunch of people congregating near a conference room. I walk over and see "Leadership Team Development" posted on the wall. I'm thinking what the heck is that? I see my (unknowingly at the time) sponsor. There's about 60-80 people in there, and I knew I was in store for some foolywang. Low and behold, a well-dressed guy walks to the front and the show begins! He starts by showing pictures of his family, following up with stories of being broke, but now achieved financial-freedom; how he gets to sleep-in, has a maid, nice cars, and the list went on. He then went around the room asking others what they'd do with 10, 20, or 30k a month. He showed us pictures of all these people who retired at early ages from the program; pictures of their parties, cars, houses, etc. It was utterly and purely RIDICULOUS. I looked around the room full of mostly college-aged young adults, and saw the excitement bursting in their eyes. He had em before they knew what the business was! I wanted to walk out within the first 15 mins of his presentation. In the 1-hr presentation, he explained the business model and the financial structure (how you actually make money) for a total of 10 MINUTES (no exaggeration). He also called up other "business owners" to share their success stories; they all told stories similar to mine in how they met their sponsors - basically soliciting unsuspecting people who thought they were trying to be nice (like myself).

Now, in knowing everything I know now, I can say this is a legitimate company and legitimate business model. I've seen it 100 different times! No different from TravelZoo, YTB, or Ebates; which are all legit companies. They are incentive- and performance-based businesses solely predicated off of you creating a big network of other suckers who sell products and services so you won't have to. The whole intent is for you to get to the top of the pyramid. Ladies and gentlemen, if that's not a pyramid scheme, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS! The only way you make any REAL money is if your network is big enough; meaning you've convinced enough others to join - there is NO OTHER WAY. Sadly, this is a legitimate business in this country - selling trash to garbage men. And some folks become rich off of it, but I can not.

If you take anything from this post, please just remember this: Any business proposition where someone is selling you on how much money you can make, and ALL the things you can do with it before you even make a dime - they're selling you a PIPE DREAM! Now sure, maybe some people did retire once upon a time and made a boatload of money; but they're not showing you the thousands of people who failed. They're not showing you all the people who used the same system, yet were unsuccessful. It's not a cookie-cutter business; not everyone can be a used-car salesman (which is what you're doing); not everyone can knowingly omit certain things to their advantage; not everyone can sell the same products at a 10-15% markup for their own financial gain. I can't see myself convincing friends, family, or others to buy products from my online retail site, knowing they could get it cheaper elsewhere.

When I finished up my meeting, I told my sponsor he deceived me; he looked at me like I just cursed him. He truly believed there was nothing wrong with his tactics. He admittedly omitted some things, but he felt he did not lie or deceive me. Well guess what the definition of Deception is: "to cause (someone) to believe something that is not true, typically in order to gain some personal advantage". I'll leave you with that.

~To know is strength. Education does grow on trees; literally. Read a book~

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John 459
, US
Apr 14, 2019 11:20 am EDT
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Wow you have no idea... I’m sitting here right now with around 10K ppl ... many ppl making lots of money ... so sad we live in the free enterprise system and every is so quick to analyze something they no nothing about ... the owners worth 8 Billion.. Amway is A + BBB rating paid out over 50BILLIiooooooon they created more millionaires then any other company than anyone else (Expect Microsoft) and its a scam ... wow Think 🤔 for a min look at the facts before you read this stuff from broke ppl who know nothing about money

60 Years been around Government is slow but come on a scam ... Think People God have u a mind use it

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Debby Sanders
, US
Aug 13, 2018 1:01 pm EDT

Amway offers overpriced products that cant really compete, so most of the buyers are within the program., 97% to be more exact.

LTD offers overpriced training and "tools", but if you are smart enough you can get them for free or a fraction of the cost of what they offer.

So people with the program are paying too much for training, and paying too much for products. BAD combination for business...and THAT nobody says on the training

So yeah, you CAN make money out of this but it would be easier to SELL something that you actually believe in. Don't you think?

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Kc314
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Oct 12, 2017 9:27 am EDT

At no point has anyone working with LTD/Amway made the impression that it would be easy. They have explained many times that it takes hard work and time. That getting rich quick isn't a reality, but over the course of working your own business for a few years, it can really pay off. Now, I have heard from people I know saying it sounds like a pyramid scheme, and I get the caution. But none of those people are where I want to be in life. None of them are making enough money to live the life they want. In the Info session, clear as day, they show the cost of what it takes to get started, get your website started, username with Amway, and samples to try. They didn't sneak in the the cost or cover it up by telling me later. they were very up front. I just watched one young lady that has been working with the team RETIRE at age 26. There was a big celebration with over 1, 000 people in attendance to celebrate her freedom from her corporate job. Now I am realistic to know that, that might not be me right away or without hard work. I have weighed the pros and cons and looked over every stone I could find to see this business for what it really is, and I see it as a wonderful opportunity. Get rich quick scheme? I don't think so... but currently I am on the 'Get Rich NEVER' scheme by working my 40 hours and climbing the corporate ladder, so I really don't see much to lose. I see a chance to absorb information from successful people and IF nothing else, grow myself that way. But I def see more than that. And plus side, I shop now as I am a consumer, but no where I shop is paying me to shop there. So also, IF NOTHING ELSE, I will make my money back eventually by getting paid back on my purchases from their major partners.

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bedtime37
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Aug 02, 2017 6:26 pm EDT
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I'm really curious, for those who have spent considerable time working the Amway/LTD system:

1). How long have you been doing it?
2). How many hours per week do you spend (including seminars, travel time, professional development, in addition to selling)?
3). How much money have you made (what has been your revenue, expenses and total profit, yearly, monthly or weeky)?

Is anyone willing to share this information?

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willnotsaymyname
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Jan 31, 2021 11:02 pm EST
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we spent nearly 7 years working hard, doing all they told us, bringing people in and selling products. Went to everything, every seminar, function, meeting, showed the plan 5 to 7 times a week, cold contacted hundreds or thousands. countless nights and still lost about 20K a year in average. If you sell your soul to the devil you might make it. Many of the couples that were in with us also left because they also put in so much time effort and money and yet it did not work for them. yes it is a cult and most people stay because there is a lot of emotional manipulation. My upline had been in the business for around 20 years and once he made it to 7500 PV, they called him platinum LOL. his upline was supposedly an emerald, she was only once years ago, at best a 7500 pv most of the time we were in the business. Her upline (not really upline) was a supposed diamond, he was once 20 years back. again he was probably sapphire of emerald at best.

The business is full of deception and lies to make you think they are really successful. After being in the business long enough you realize the money is in the tools and functions and not in the amway business. My upline had some really old tapes he was not supposed to let me hear but he did, and they talk about how the real business is the tools, cds, books and so on. about 80% of the big pins income is the tools, not the amway income.

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Peter Coiley
, US
Jul 20, 2017 10:43 am EDT

Blogs about 8 years old but I'll give my spin on it. I've been to one of these conferences and have friends involved. There are good people who attend these conferences, I'm not going to say it's a scam or false, but I don't recommend quitting your day job for it. The majority of people at the top of the chain making lucrative amounts of money (which you can make to be fair) have a sales background because that's what this is. They will tell you that you aren't selling any products which is true to an extent. You're selling a potential (and statistically unlikely) future. If someone worked 40 hours a week doing this "recruiting" left and right then yes I think you could actually retire early like they say (recruiting is in quotes because if you say you're not interested they typically don't badger you anymore to the degree most recruiters would). Like businesses prey upon individuals with masters and bachelors degrees, these businesses prey upon those who are more of in a dead end situation. Is it wrong? That's a matter of opinion but this is merely a different business model. Legally speaking, no it isn't a pyramid scam. Will most people recognize it as such, yes most likely. Parker Newell (son of Gary Newell) is a good friend of mine and he does a great job at it and he'll retire early because he's gone about it correctly. I can't bash this because even though I viewed this as something that wasn't for me (Masters in Business Law and Business Administration so I'd have wasted my time doing that), the people who are in it were nothing but courteous and kind to me. People can make money with this, it's just very very difficult and like I said to be making money in the millions with this is statistically improbable. Now that being said, jobs are pretty much the same way, though the income is more reliable and sustainable.

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Orlando, US
Feb 05, 2013 7:13 pm EST
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You saying that Amway has a lot of money does nothing to strengthen your upline's words. That's like saying that you should go to a casino because they have billions in revenue -- you can be financially free from that enterprise, right?! It amuses me that scamway zombies automatically assume that their critics are proponents of 'the system' of getting an education, going into debt out of their own stupidity and selling themselves short for a job they hate. I got an education (shame on me?), but I didn't sell out my dreams to become a glorified bake sales drone who tries to cover up Amways dirty tracks on message boards. Instead I used the knowledge gained to pursue my own dream in which royalties from my software licenses alone make the peasants of Amway drool. You have dreams? Pursue them. But don't pretend your dreams are being paralleled by selling sub-par cleaning solution and alienating your friends into the same compromising position you've put yourself in.

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CommonSenseIsNeeded
Lima, US
Feb 05, 2013 6:53 pm EST

Or for instance a 21 year old man who has grown into a person who respects himself because I work to live my dream instead of telling others they can't. The fix of the system? please do explain this latest conspiracy theory. and lets be honest the world is rhetoric... wake up when you don't want to, go to work be told when to be hungry, what to say, when to say it, how to say it, and when you are able to spend time with your family. What I have heard my buisness partners say are things from REPUTABLE people like Dr. John C. Maxwell, Frank Luntz, and Napoleon Hill. I personaly would rather hear sucess principles and people talking about the future and how it will be better than the past than people like you, who we are all around on a day to day basis. It is your intention on here to tell people that the Amway buisness does not work however it almost comes off a little bitter. The funny thing is that your system of going to school, gaining debt, getting a job that pays less a year than your school cost per semester, spending limited time with your family with limited money, to me seems like the scam. Since when does school dictate personality or a persons self worth. since when does a person who saw a plan one time understand a buisness that got 11 billion in sales last year. The thing is you don't know it. all you know is what you have heard or prejudged. Do me a favor bud and define a Pyrimid Scheme and prove Amway is one.

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