STAFF SELLING DRUGS, YOUR EMPLOYEES "POPPING PILLS" WHILE DOING INTERVENTIONS? THAT'S ABOUT THE SIZE OF IT, EH JOHN!
Monday, 23 September 2013
John Haines/ Vita Novus/How it Works/ Pickerel Lake/ Addictions Canada/ Toronto Addictions/Ontario North Addictions
It has recently been brought to my attention that the owner of the Addictions Facility that I attended, and where I was extremely mislead and mistreated has now changed all of it's names to not have as much negative attention with the old facility names. Pickerel Lake Recovery, where I went, is now known as Ontario North Addictions and How it Works is now known as Toronto Addictions.
Here's the reason for this Blog. The Facilities that John Haines runs are not ran properly or up to code of standards for even prisoners, never mind the broken, forgotten, beaten and ignored souls of those whom suffer from addiction. He has had many facilities in the past 10 years of his life and each one has failed, or gained a poor reputation. Each time he continues to change the name and continue to rip off people at their most vulnerable state. He charges 30, 000$ /month for care in his facilities, and let me tell you there is nothing special or fancy about them.
He promised my parents, who had to take out a second mortgage - just to send me there, he told them that there was doctors on site, that there were programs specific for OCD, General Anxiety Disorder and Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. None of his facilities have these options. To make things even better they did not allow me to see a doctor until the 20th day of my stay, and I asked the second day I arrived. My human rights were with held from me. But it gets better.
John Haines preaches about being a good sober man, he preaches about ego and letting things go and growing as a person and then he does everything in his power to debilitate you from being able to do so. For example, let me explain, I arrived at Pickerel Lake aka ( Ontario North Addictions) and with me another client. This client took a particular liking to scare me, threaten me with a knife, he threaten to push me down the stairs, and lastly he threatened to stab me. ALL of the staff were aware of how I was being treated and how uncomfortable I felt, but John Haines did not care as he had my parents money and this other client's money. So when things finally got out of hand according to John's standards, he decided to kick out the client. And then accept him at one of this other facilities, for an addition 30 grand of course. Where this client continued to ruin the recovery and safety of other females. So that clearly did not work out for him. So what did John Haines do, kicked him out of that place and sent him back up to Pickerel Lake so that the abuse towards myself could continue, and it did. For 3 days before the client was once again asked to leave.
Is this the type of care anyone wants to be a part of ? Or that any parent would willingly knowingly send their child? I should hope not.
To make matters even better and to express my love for John Haines I am not going to leave about the part where he bullies his staff and clients into his own thinking. If you do not agree with him, be prepared to be belittled and degraded in front of a crowd. So badly in fact that the person he pays to run his facility told him that he was out of line.
If John Haines is collecting all this money from all these people and places then why is it that he cannot even pay his staff on a regular basis ? Easy answer : the amount of law suits he has underway would impress us all. He tried to black mail me into giving him an affidavit in order to help one of his law suits. Clearly I refused and then the wrath of John Haines started all over again.
I do not know of anyone who has been a part of the JOHN HAINES facilities that left happy, prepared or that were able to maintain complete sobriety. In fact every single client/staff member I know has had to completely redo portions of their program in order to let go of the anger and resentments that they have towards this disgusting cockroach of a man.
He continues to act as though he is recovered yet if you listen to him speak for more than 2 minutes you will know everything about him, and he will not have asked you one question, however he probably will have made about 1000 assumptions. This man has no respect for women, I certainly did not receive any. He also used to refer to me as nothing but " pussy " to another client. HOW IN THE WORLD IS THAT PROFESSIONAL.
Please whatever you do, do you your research. I understand that you want to save your loved ones life... but sending them to John Haine's care is not the right place to do so.
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CortBooth24 September 2013 04:37
Please share this as much as you can on whatever outlets you can, twitter, google+, Facebook - this needs to be heard. It is absolutely disgusting what this man is doing.
ConMan JohnHaines5 November 2013 09:55
Google, John Haines Rehab, Vita Novus Complaints, Addiction Canada Treatment Network Complaints, Pickerel Lake Recovery Complaints, Muskoka Recovery Complaints, Same SCAM, SAME GUY, JOHN HAINES.
Muskoka karma5 November 2013 10:12
Thank you Badmanners for putting yourself out there. YOU ARE NOT ALONE! MANY OF US WHO WERE SCREWED BY THIS COCAINE JUNKIE!
John Haines is a "piece of [censored]." Did you know Pickerel Lake is Not Zoned Properly. Did he tell you he was CARF Accredited. If so, you have a LEGAL CASE. IT'S CALLED FRAUD. He is NOT CARF Accredited, or Certified. Pickerel Lake is NOT ZONED PROPERLY.
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Muskoka karma5 November 2013 10:47
Also, you need to call the POLICE and REPORT This! This is ASSAULT, Assault with a Weapon, Threatening BODILY HARM. It' Against the Law.
You can call: 1.800.310.1122 ( O.P.P.) and tell them you want to report an Assault that happened in Burk's Falls at Pickerel Lake Recovery, which is going by Vita Novus, and Ontario North Addictions. They will connect you.
Muskoka karma6 November 2013 06:59
The number is: 1.888.310.1122. Not 1.888.; Yes, YOU NEED TO Report this Man. There was also a SEXUAL ASSAULT AT PICKEREL LAKE RECOVERY.
Just Google, Sexual Assault Pickerel Lake Recovery, or Sexual Assault Muskoka Recovery Center.
He and his Staff COVERED IT UP! They've got away with it for now. BUT LISTEN TO ME JOHN, IT'S NOT DONE AND YOU WILL BE CHARGED WITH COVERING UP A SEXUAL ASSAULT.
So it doesn't surprise me that you refer to your FEMALE CLIENTS AS "PUSSY." This is the REAL JOHN HAINES AND YES, HE IS NOTHING BUT A LOW LIFE CRIMINAL, COCAINE USER, SCAMMER!
liesby johnhaines7 November 2013 05:59
Really John. That's your style. Posting against people who EXPOSE YOU. Nice Try John. HEY, did you get all your clients to sign the Affidavit for you? How MANY LAWSUITS DO YOU HAVE GOING AGAINST YOU? I hear IT'S AS LOT!
Amanda, Don't worry. We all know it's John Posting. So much for Privacy for your Clients, eh JOhn?
John Haines is NOTHING BUT A CONMAN, A LOW LIFE CRIMINAL, SCAMMER!
TRY AGAIN JOHN, YOU'RE NOT FOOLING ANYONE!
badmanners7 November 2013 12:31
Well first of all, let me properly address everyone. I attentended Pickeral Lake. July 2012 and have been CLEAN ever since. Plus while attended there was no client named Scotty - so Scotty is lieing. Second me and Brad never didn't anything that wasn't allowed by our councellours ( your still hired staff)
I am not afraid of you John Haines. My name is Amanda English - I attended your [censored] facility which was illegally zoned - They have fixed that now and for your nosey [censored] little self Brad did not attended for free and where the money came from for my treatment is non' yo' damn business.
Thanks for trying but if you speak a word of my treatment of get Nicole to make some [censored]ed up video - that will be breeaking client rights and I'll come aftrer you so fast it'll be like a cokehead on an 8 ball. #couldnthelpthepun
badmanners7 November 2013 12:35
Ohh I've jogged my memory and the names NOW fit. The two of you are johns little minions. One related I'm sure. Ryans friends since we're all throwing out names. Part of the terrible threesome. Young female clients terrifief of you 3. You did nothing but prey on us just like the rest. Get off my blog. #calledout #hatershiding
badmanners7 November 2013 12:37
badmanners7 November 2013 12:52
And since I'm on here defending myself the person -again since we're throwing out names - is Andrea, that your thinking about. Plus last I heard Jordy wanted to attend FRANCO'S proper treatment... So you guys are clearly high and confused. PLUS NO ONE at pickeral lake called me AMANDA - you [censored]s.
Sean Riegle7 November 2013 12:55
Its important to realize that everyone experiences things differently, so what might not be perceived as problematic by Jordy and Scott may, in fact, be interpreted very differently by Amanda. My point is that this isn't a simple issue that can be dismissed by saying " oh Amanda is just bitter" There is obviously something more to what she's saying and if you are indeed fans of the aforementioned center then I would like to think that you would want to be curious about what's being said to find out if its true. Blind faith in anything isn't a virtue when you can see the forest for the trees.
The fact that Amanda, and seemingly others, have posted serious concerns with this place is both their prerogative, as it is a reflection of their overall experience, as well as it telling as to the sensitivity that staff has to people who are going through difficult times. If staff can't manage people who may be intense or display poor judgement and bad behaviour then its perfectly acceptable for people to criticize a place that sells itself as a center for help.
badmanners7 November 2013 13:00
"hey Jordie, remember that time you and one of the nurses took a bunch of hydros from a new client and sold them in your hometown? And john knew and didn't get rid of either of you?"
kaylee7 November 2013 14:01
Im loving that everybody knows about this
liesby johnhaines7 November 2013 13:14
See that's what this "Piece of [censored]" Conman John Haines does, makes up LIES ABOUT ANYONE EXPOSES HIM. I'M personally PROUD OF YOU AMANDA for Exposing this Low Life Conman.
By the way Amanda, Zoning and Licensing at Pickerel Lake Recovery, Vita Novus, or Ontario North Addictions, (call it what you want) is NOT FIXED. It was the Second Reading of the Proposed Amendments.
As John says, the "Process" has Started, but NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE. It may take anywhere from the next few months to a year before this is Zoning and Licensing issue is straightened out, it ever!
Yeah John, Make up some more names and come back here and post. You're a CLOWN JOHN.
(FORMER CLIENT SAYS: November 2013 13:59
John Haines is a scam artist. He managed to break up my one year engagment in a week by manipulating one of his workers back to him with false promises and lies. I only have the counselors Rick and Mel to thank for any form of support or direction. I am also wondering when i handed over the $ 32 000 money order to connie whose pocket that went into because apparently they are telling me my second visit was free? One client is the reason I am alive and he his now passed away. He got me through my detox, and got my [censored] back to treatment when he checked up on me and knew i was [censored]ed up ( the only person to do a follow up of any kind). I would have died with a needle in my arm if it wasn't for him. It breaks my heart that this is happening. Connie popped percocets in front of me and administers benzos to clients from her personal supply and recently admitted to me she is a pill popper and proceeded to call me a drunk? I dont know what kind of support that is supposed to be, and I was lied to and looked up to her thinking she was sober, when in fact she was running newmarket on pills and whatever else. I could give two [censored]s about this but I have to speak out due to the legalities, especially having to do with the selling of a bottle of hydros by a nurse and an old client with john knowing about it. And also because he [censored]ed with my personal life and took the person i was supposed to marry away from me, so hell yes I do have every right to be saying this because now it is VERY personal john. Im also speaking out for anybody else that had experiences like these and to support my friend. And the only [censored]y [censored] thing im going to say is that nicole basically slept with my now ex fiance and she is married your a [censored] and useless at helping anybody but yourself.
(FORMER CLIENT SAYS: November 2013 14:02
& RIP Ryan O'Hearn I do owe my life to you.
(FORMER CLIENT SAYS: November 2013 23:22
i didnt bring up your names because i was trying to show some respect, and I never said i was a good girl in rehab, but when it comes to ryan avery, we got engaged because i was a stupid child that got manipulated and eventually very screwed over by him, but Ryan O'Hearn, you have no right to refer to or say a goddamn word you disrespectful [censored]. While we are getting comfy, I also slept with Ryan O, Ryan Avery, Colton, and that little smoke show sara, and I [censored]ing loved eating her pussy and I do not regret that by any means. So call me a [censored] all you would like, but Im not ashamed to tell the truth or of who I am, and it sounds like you need a serious dick pounding in your [censored] or something man, so go get some cock, pussy, whatever you want and enjoy your life... just make sure to use condoms so you dont knock a girl up like jordy knocked up rachel and she had to take care of that doosie oops...sex is natural thing hunnie bunnie and Im not emberassed to say that I enjoy it very much :) And as for Mel bangin Moe, NICE WORK MEL :D
Sex is legal, unfortunately selling narcotics and much of johns work is not.
badmanners8 November 2013 01:48
Bahahahah the scotty that would be around some times and then ryan avery would bad mouth you and spill all your [censored]? You too right jordy? You 2 can stop sucking eachothers and johns dick asap.
Lovee ya Kayl xo
kaylee8 November 2013 07:00
love ya girly xo
Willie Billie8 November 2013 04:55
YOU NEED TO CONTACT THE POLICE AND REPORT THE "SELLING OF DRUGS" BY STAFF, CLIENTS, ETC..., . THE POLICE WILL BE ---VERY INTERESTED-- IN KNOWING ABOUT JOHN HAINES INVOLVEMENT.
ALSO, THE ASSAULT: IF YOU REPORT IT, I CAN TELL YOU THEY WILL LOOK INTO IT. FROM WHAT YOU SAID, I HAVE ---NO DOUBT--- CHARGES WILL BE LAID!
SHUT THIS MAN AND HIS [censored] REHAB CENTRE'S DOWN! CALL THE POLICE -- TODAY --!
I LOVE what you said, beautiful:
"Sex is legal, unfortunately selling narcotics and much of johns work is not."
badmanners8 November 2013 16:09
It took place in july 2012, not much I can do now. Plus I don't have the $$ to go toe to toe with this monster.
badmanners9 November 2013 04:36
My final reply to this.
Muskoka karma19 November 2013 11:29
This is ANOTHER ONE OF JOHN'S REHAB CENTER's.
Please pass this along to people. You see, as everyone knows, when there is TOO MUCH BAD PUBLICITY about One Particular Rehab Center, then he CHANGES THE NAME. On and on it goes.
Just want everyone to know!
badmanners19 November 2013 15:40
Pretend I knew someone working for him right now is using... How can it be made so staff are drug tested, someone using shouldn't be a staff member...
badmanners19 November 2013 14:31
Letsssss get 'em! Just incase he's all over this. Dear John, Karma is a callin', amd that [censored] is coming to collect.
Muskoka karma19 November 2013 15:42
Why do we keep on this Loser, John Haines……..,
because as you can see………., MORE LIES. We went through this already John.
In case you forgot John, here it is……….,
February 13, 2013 at 12:57 pm
Notice any CHANGES TO JOHN HAINES FALSE ADDS? THE ANSWER IS YES…………, YES, ……………, YES………..,
THE OLD ADD/FRAUD BY JOHN HAINES
• We are fully certified by the NAATP as well registered with CARF Canada to ensure you are putting your life into the hands of CERTIFIED treatment professionals
THE NEW ADD……..,
We are registered with the NAATP as well our organization is becoming fully accredited with CARF Canada to ensure you are putting your life into the hands of FULLY LICENSED & CERTIFIED treatment professionals.
NAATP DID NOT CERTIFY YOUR UNLICENSED, UNZONED REHAB CENTER’S. REGISTERED WITH CARF? LET’S SEE WHAT NAATP AND CARF HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS.
As some of you know, he is also using, ONTARIO NORTH ADDICTIONS.
“We are fully certified by the NAATP as well registered with CARF Canada to ensure you are putting your life into the hands of CERTIFIED treatment professionals.”
Yeah, NO YOUR NOT. Hey John, do you think you have a PROBLEM WITH TELLING LIES? The answer would be YES JOHN!
So, Today, I spoke with Amy from NAATP. Guess what, THEY WEREN’T IMPRESSED JOHN. Oh, by the way, they also told me YOUR UNLICENSED REHAB CENTER, “RECOVERYNETWORK” ( http://www.recoverynetwork.ca ) IS NOT EVEN ‘REGISTERED’ WITH THEM, ( Holy [censored] Dude) NEVER MIND THE FACT THAT YOU ARE LYING ABOUT BEING CERTIFIED BY THEM!
( They will tell you, THEY DON'T CERTIFY ANYONE. YOU PAY YOUR MONEY TO BE LISTED ON THEIR SITE, THAT'S IT. SO TELL EVERYONE AGAIN HOW NAATP "CERTIFIED" YOUR UNZONED, UNLICENSED REHAB CENTER JOHN?
You're a BIGGER SCAMMER than I even thought!
Hey John, THEY WILL BE IN TOUCH WITH YOU ABOUT THIS, AGAIN!
So, Why do we keep on this Loser, COCAINE JUNKIE, John Haines……..,
because as you can see………., MORE LIES!
badmanners20 November 2013 05:36
Okay, so I've started a blog that I hope tons will see so they can know the truth, what else can I do?
liesby johnhaines20 November 2013 08:13
EVERYONE Needs to POST THIS INFORMATION 'ALL OVER THE INTERNET. I have been doing my part in EXPOSING THIS LOW LIFE PIECE OF [censored], SCAMMER who has been RIPPING OFF ADDICTS FOR TOO LONG!
Also, call NAATP AND CARF and tell them about HIS LIES ABOUT BEING "CERTIFIED BY NAATP, AND " REGISTERED WITH CARF.
Edmonton, AB T5J 3S9, Canada
Toll-free: [protected] voice
1 Yonge Street, Suite 1801
Toronto, ON M5E 1W7, Canada
Toll-free: [protected] ext. 3010 ( REMEMBER, STAR *67 CALL BLOCKING DOES NOT WORK ON MANY 800, 888, ETC..., PHONE LINES. THAT's WHY [censored] HEAD JOHN HAINES WAS 'ASKING' PEOPLE TO CALL HIS TOLL FREE NUMBERS AND SPEAK WITH HIS " LEGAL" PEOPLE, ETC... THAT WAY, HE KNOWS WHO'S CALLING.
You're so smart John. Did you learn this stuff in JAIL? CLOWN, CLOWN, CLOWN!
When you call CARF, Ask for Dawn Pickering. JUST ASK HER IF THE SCAMMER IS "REGISTERED" WITH THEM AND WHAT DOES THE WORD REGISTERED WITH THEM ACTUALLY MEAN. IT'S MEANS..., [censored], RIGHT JOHN!
AND CALL NAATP:
National Association of Addiction Treatment Providers – NAATP
11380 ProsperityFarms Road, Suite 209A
Palm BeachGardens, FL. 33410
Michael E. Walsh, MS, CAP, BRI I
President and CEO
YOU WILL BE SHUT DOWN JOHN. MARK MY WORDS LOSER!
badmanners20 November 2013 15:18
I emailed naapt - see if I hear back...
liesby johnhaines21 November 2013 06:12
WELL DONE EVERYONE!
This is what happens when we BAND TOGETHER. Yeah, you should be worried John. You shouldn't have PISSED OFF AMANDA. I guess you thought she was JUST ANOTHER "CLIENT" who you could abuse. Take her MONEY, AND EVERYONE'S ELSES. AND YOU THOUGHT YOU COULD GET AWAY WITH THIS FOREVER.
NO, NO, NO. You've PISSED OFF THE WRONG PEOPLE MR. Rehab. Ha, Ha, Ha!
I guess enough people called NAATP. See the CHANGE. Now he is "REGISTERED" WITH THEM. NOT CERTIFIED BY NAATP like he's BEEN TELLING EVERYONE.
NOW IT'S TIME TO CALL CARF AND SEE EXACTLY WHAT "REGISTERED' WITH CARF MEANS. CAN YOU TELL US JOHN?
www.recoverynetwork.ca ( NEW ADD)
We are a fully certified organization, registered with the NAATP, CACCF, APASK as well as CARF Canada to ensure you are putting your life into the hands of fully LICENSED and CERTIFIED treatment professionals.
Remember, NON OF HIS [censored] REHAB CENTER'S ARE LICENSED LIKE HE'S TRYING TO TELL EVERYONE. Why Johh, Oh yeah, THERE IS NO LICENSING PROCESS ((EXCEPT BY THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITY))
So John, Can you POST YOUR LICENSE(S) FOR YOU UNZONED, UNLICENSED REHAB CENTER'S ON YOUR WEBSITE SO THAT WE CAN ALL SEE?
Yeah, the ANSWER IS NO, RIGHT JOHN. YOU'RE NOTHING BUT A COCAINE JUNKIE, LIAR. YOUR STAFF SELLS DRUGS, POPPING PILLS WHILE DOING INTERVENTIONS, SCREWING EVERYONE, YOU COVERED UP A SEXUAL ASSAULT..., OH YEAH, YOU CALLED AMANDA VERY NASTY NAMES.
So guess what John, you thought IT WAS BAD BEFORE. WE ARE ALL EXPOSING YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE. Greathealer MY [censored]. More like CON MAN, COCAINE JUNKIE, SCAMMER.
YOU WILL BE SHUT DOWN!
Muskoka karma21 November 2013 07:20
Yes, well done everyone! BUT REMEMBER, you are dealing with John Haines. You know when his mouth opens, it's going to be a LIE.
I just spoke with Amy from NAATP. What about John? Oh, you know, you saying you are 'REGISTERED" with them. So, knowing you have a PROBLEM WITH TELLING LIES, I went to the Members Search Area of their Website, and guess what? No, RECOVERYNETWORK.CA listed in THEIR MEMBERSHIP DIRECTORY. https://www.naatp.org/
Not your fault John? Everyone one else is lying John? Well, they know now how you operate and I guess you will be receiving a call soon about, LYING THAT RECOVERNETWORK.CA IS REGISTERED WITH NAATP.
badmanners21 November 2013 10:45
Let me be very very clear. My intention was to never harm or hurt anyone in this process of writing a blog. You are 100 % right, he pissed of the wrong girl. He thought that because I was a piece of young " pussy", and knew I had issues with men bigger and stronger than me that he would intimidate me.
John, You haven't. And in case you get all preachy about my personal business let me remind you of confidentiality and all the people I became friendly with at Pickerel Lake, everyone from the maintenance staff to the cooking and cleaning stafff, all who love and adored me. Remember how on my last 2 days you tried to build me up and make me look like a " winner" in front of the fresh newbies you were about to screw over. It didn't and hasn't erased anything you have done John. I heard that on your stupid [censored]ing youtube channel you have started calling out clients by name. Yes thats correct everyone Sangeria or something like that (please excuse my ignorance) was a client and he has blasted him on youtube. Like I said I refuse to watch the channel and give the [censored]er more views... but I know that there are people who have backed down from you John, people who have asked me to keep their business out of here because you have threatened to expose them publicly. John you know NOTHING about me, not on a personal level all you know is how many digits went beside my parents names on the cheque. But you best believe, on my little brothers grave, if you throw my name on your channel, if you even whisper it. If you talk Nicole Lawley into exposing me as she was my counselor, I swear it on the little boy's grave whom I love so much - you will NOT win that battle John.
liesby johnhaines21 November 2013 12:46
ANOTHER CHANGE TO RECOVERYNETWORK.CA
Now John is Saying:
"registered with and members of NAATP, CACCF, APASK as well as CARF Canada."
You are Registered and a Member of CARF? Gee, I can't find you on their website
and No, you are NOT A MEMBER OF NAATP. I just checked their Membership Directory, and NO recovernetwork.ca YOU'RE A..., LIAR BUDDY BOY!
So how did NAATP "Certify" you Mr. Rehab? John, you're a LOSER, A CLOWN, PEOPLE ARE LAUGHING AT YOU!
Get off the Cocaine for a while and clear your head. I think you know, there are LOTS OF PEOPLE WAITING ON THE SIDE LINE, WAITING FOR THE RIGHT TIME TO TELL THEIR STORY, TO EXPOSE YOU!
Willie Billie22 November 2013 07:56
It's good to see PEOPLE ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO EXPOSE THIS "PREDATOR" And that's Exactly what he is a 'PREDATOR." Hunting for ADDICTS HE CAN RIP OFF!
People are asking what to do about this SCAMMER. Here is some information for all of you.
John Haines in NOT Registered with or a Member of CARF. Everyone needs to contact Dawn Pickering and inform her about recoverynetwork.ca where John says he is "Registered with and a Member of CARF." HE IS NOT!
When you email Dawn, put the link to recoverynetwork.ca so she can see for herself what this Conman is up to AGAIN.
They are familiar with this Scam Artist. They made him Remove another Add he had posted else where on the internet. On that add he said he was LICENSED BY CARF.
Dawn's email address: [protected]@carf.org
Willie Billie22 November 2013 08:31
take off the dot at the end of .org
Rehabloser JohnHaines22 November 2013 09:16
If John Haines is a Member of CARF, then this speaks volumes about the CREDIBILITY OF CARF! Letting someone like John Haines become a Member? If there is any truth to this, then this information has to get out!
Dorthy Wilson22 November 2013 12:22
It would be of great help to everyone if CARF would clearify their relationship with John Haines, Vita Novus, if there is any to begin with?
We are a fully certified organization, registered with and members of NAATP, CACCF, APASK as well as CARF Canada
CARF NAATP24 November 2013 06:58
Good Morning to All.
Couple of things; CARF AND NAATP ARE [censored] ORGANIZATIONS!
Naapt doesn't check what people put on their website. It was said before and it's true, they just take your money and you put whatever you want. Some of you may remember, CARF did however make john Haines remove the LIE that he was ACCREDITED BY THEM, which he is NOT and that's why they MADE HIM REMOVE THAT PARTICULAR LISTING.
Where did John Post that..., well, he posted in on the NAAPT Website because he knows NAATP doesn't check their client posting! I understand because of the John Haines situation, they may start, but the bottom line is both CARF AND NAAPT ARE [censored]!
If CARF is ok with John Haines saying that he is Registered and a Member of their [censored] ORGANIZATION, then good for them and as someone on the above post said, this speaks volumes about the CREDIBILITY OF CARF!
Now back to NAATP; they have let John Haines post that he is LICENSED. We all know THAT'S NOT TRUE, BUT HERE YOU GO, SEE FOR YOURSELF:
See where he says he is LICENSED? Yeah John, YOU'RE NOT!
and AGAIN..., See where he says he is LICENSED? Yeah John, YOU'RE NOT!
The BOTTOM LINE is like many of you, I WILL KEEP EXPOSING THIS CONMAN FOR WHAT HE IS..., A SCAMMER, A RIPPOFF ARTIST, WHO COVERED UP A SEXUAL ASSAULT AMONG OTHER THINGS! GO JOHN HAINES..., . HEY I'M WAITING FOR MORE OF YOUR YOUTUBE VIDS BUDDY BOY. COME ON BE A BUDDY, POST SOME MORE..., YOU [censored]IN' LOSER!
CARF NAATP25 November 2013 05:30
ANOTHER ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR EVERYONE, WHO CALLED/EMAILED CARF. WELL DONE! ( just getting started John!)
ANOTHER CHANGE TO RECOVERYNETWORK.CA
( The emails and calls to CARF obviously GOT THEIR ATTENTION regarding SCAMMER John Haines)
Now John is Saying that he is NOT A MEMBER OR REGISTERED WITH CARF. Oh Yeah, HE NEVER WAS TO BEGIN WITH. NOW I GUESS HE REALIZES. TOO MANY LIES JOHN. GET OFF THE COCAINE FOR A WHILE!
John Haines Says:
We are a fully certified organization, registered with and members of NAATP, CACCF, APASK as well as ** becoming fully accredited with CARF Canada** to ensure you are putting your life into the hands of fully LICENSED and CERTIFIED treatment professionals.
BIG DIFFERENCE FROM:
We are a fully certified organization, **registered with and members of NAATP, CACCF, APASK as well as CARF Canada.**
Would be easier to just tell the Truth John. You don't know how to do that. So, we WILL ALL HELP YOU OUT! Yes, people are laughing at you. Three changes to recoverynetwork.ca regarding CARF AND NAATP in less then Three Days.
NOW, PEOPLE NEED TO CALL NAATP AND TELL THEM THAT JOHN HAINES REHAB CENTER'S ARE NOT LICENSED!
NAATP, BY ALLOWING HIM TO PUT ON THEIR WEBSITE THAT HE IS LICENSED, IS 'ENABLING' ( A WORD YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH JOHN) HIM TO CONTINUE THIS FRAUD/FALSE ADVERTISING.
THEY ( NAATP) BY THEIR ' NEGLIGENCE' ARE ALLOWING JOHN HAINES TO CONTINUE TO " MISLEAD PEOPLE."
YOU PEOPLE AT NAATP NEED TO SMARTEN UP AND START TO CHECK WHAT PEOPLE ARE PUTTING ON YOUR WEBSITE!
National Association of Addiction Treatment Providers – NAATP
Phone [protected] - Fax [protected]
Michael E. Walsh, MS, CAP, BRI I -President and CEO
Amy Greenburg - Office Manager - EMAIL - [protected]@naatp.org
Dorthy Wilson25 November 2013 07:40
I want to personally thank Amanda for this blog. We have had dealings with John Haines also. He took us for a lot of money too, Amanda. I know he has done this to a lot of people. Thank you to everyone for letting the public know about this man.
motherconned byjohnhaines25 November 2013 10:09
John has several, ongoing lawsuits at the present time, according to our lawyer. Our money was stolen by John also. I would like to know about the staff "popping pills", "selling drugs" etc..., This information would be important for our lawsuits against this man.
You can email me @: [protected]@gmail.com
(FORMER CLIENT SAYS: November 2013 13:59
Connie popped percocets in front of me and administers benzos to clients from her personal supply and recently admitted to me she is a pill popper and proceeded to call me a drunk? I dont know what kind of support that is supposed to be, and I was lied to and looked up to her thinking she was sober, when in fact she was running newmarket on pills and whatever else. I could give two [censored]s about this but I have to speak out due to the legalities, especially having to do with the selling of a bottle of hydros by a nurse and an old client with john knowing about it.
This story I wrote of my experience is now being taken out of control. Certain have bullied Kaylee intto taking down her posts. And now I am being threatened with police and court. I don't feel I have done anything wrong exceptshare my experience and now I'm being threatened. NOW WHAT
ConMan JohnHaines25 November 2013 15:51
This is how John Haines works. You know that. He did it to you! He threatens, and threatens, and threatens. Now he 'BULLIED' kaylee. People, you need to take a stand AGAINST THIS CONMAN, THIS BULLY!
And as far as the Police go..., they have investigated John Haines. Remember he has many, many criminal convictions. He said so himself numerous times.
John knows the Police will not lay any charges. Actually, they won't even get involved..., unless there is threat of physical harm. So again, this BULLY IS FULL OF [censored].
In the last week we have been able to NOTIFY CARF, NAATP ABOUT THE LIES HE POSTED..., Certified by Naatp, Not True..., Registered and a Member of Carf, Not True, Licensed, Not True!
Kaylee, you need to repost what happened to you, what you saw. The only person you are helping by removing your post is John Haines. Believe me, there is NO COURT! He's threaten many people in the last 5 years who have spoken about against him. NOTHING. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, RIGHT JOHN!
Why, he knows he's RIPPED OFF MANY, MANY PEOPLE. The LAST THING HE WANTS IS TO GO TO COURT! Then he'll have to explain about the Sexual Assault, the Selling of Drugs by Staff, His staff "Popping Pills' when doing Interventions, and many other things.
You need to laugh at this guy. If you received a threatening email, YOU SHOULD POST IT HERE FOR EVERYONE TO SEE. TAKE THE "AIR OUT OF THIS SCAMMER'S BALLOON."
It's really interesting what happens when you SHED LIGHT ON EVIL! THIS COCK ROACH IS NOTHING, BUT A BULLY. LAUGH AT HIM AND, TELL HIM TO [censored] OFF!
ConMan JohnHaines25 November 2013 16:13
This may sound funny, but to put your mind at rest, call up your local police department and ask to speak to an Officer about this situation. You don't have to get into it. Tell them you are being threatened by [censored] Head about an experience you had at One of his [censored] Rehab Centre's.
Ask what are the Legalities. You know what you will be told? What I just said. No Police involvement. John knows this because he's run to the Police on more then One Occasion to TRY TO GET THEM TO 'LAY CHARGES" TO LOOK AT WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING ABOUT HIM. Crying to them about how he's been called a..., SCAMMER, A CONMAN, A COCAINE JUNKIE! He's is all this PLUS MORE.
John, why don't you share what the Police told you. Ha, Ha, Ha..., That's right SCAMMER..., they LAUGHED AT YOU. DON'T LET THIS CONMAN SCARE YOU. JUST LIKE HE LIED ABOUT BEING LICENSED, BEING "CERTIFIED" BY NAATP, BEING "REGISTERED" WITH CARF, BEING A "MEMBER" OF CARF, HE'S LYING ABOUT THE POLICE AND COURT.
Someone Once Said..., "All that is required for EVIL ( John Haines) TO PREVAIL, IS FOR GOODMEN, (WOMEN) TO STAND BY AND DO NOTHING!