Global Ticket Market review: scam 272

Understood! I posted it only because Denver79 said send privately or post here and I didn't think too much motre of it but yes, anything else confidential might be best kept as private as possible. Cheers.

Everyone - I think our element of surprise has just gone out the window...its not gblads fault, he didnt know.

The a/c is definetly lloyds tsb, its based in blackheath, London, SE3 9LH
I am on the phone now holding for lloyds tsb fraud prevention..and will be making a complaint, i.e i suspect this company with these details are about to commit major fraud and explain our story...if we all do this the best outcome will be that the a/c will be frozen. If they are legit they can contact there bank and the bank can monitor all there payments to us...if they are scammers they will be long gone, and seeing as we had a contract with this company we would be entitled to the funds anyway..

Seeing as we have very little to believe in this company to far, i am going with the lets stop them first, and ask questions later! If not we will be asking questions when that a/c is empty and what use is that?

I Trust Denver so if you have anything more that is confidential give it to him it is only fair as he has been the most actif

GBLAD Good on you but if you have any more confidential like that just email to us in private because i think that these ### are monitoring out chats so please do not give them any ideas in advance.
I think that they are under pressure right now to rap it up must be just a few of them this is why sometimes the phone line is not manned possibly woman taking her kids to school big bad dad ### busy trying to get all the money out and not at home or is it big f 'iing fat Mama trying it. Anyway be careful.

Hi Everyone
I've got the Bank Details!
I believe it's a Lloyds TSB account though am not 100% sure on that.
However the account name sounded like Grant Weston, although from other postings here it could have been Grant Western or Ground Wester.
The sort code is 30-90-89 and the account number is [protected].
It may well be difficult or nigh on impossible for all of us who have been cheated to get our money back, but who knows. At least we can try!

Denver you hit it right on the nail basically the buyers must have got their tickets and all got in therefore no longer interested but these guys will definitely be back if we do not stop them. Probably next olympics or even wimbledon this might be why they have not taken down the website ? i am suprised that it is still live ?

Thanks stokarfi - @ everyone I would urge you to fill this in http://www.actionfraud.org.uk/report_fraud

Its not difficult at all, and i think its going to be a great help in getting something from these ppl.
If anyone does have any bank details, again pls send to me privately if you wish or post here...the police need this urgently. Maybe you received tickets in the end, but you can see this is a scam...theres a good chance these ppl if not brought to task will post another website down the line and buyers may not be so lucky then...you have been warned!

I sent an email to watchdog BBC not sure if they will do anything as their program is off air i think last week was the last show for now

Good show Stokarfi!

1. These ppl are now taking calls but feeding us that bull that they need to validate buyers received valid tickets from sellers...heres a few hints guys - The worlds premier/biggest ticket site cant do the following:

a> You would know where the buyer got the tickets from cos whopsy daisy, you asked the seller to send to a specific address! Why wud you need the buyer to send you these details again, dont you have a database?

b> The fact that GTM used a few addresses as a hub means they have breached the T&C and we should still be paid! I would like to see the credit purchases from these address, they would have had to have bought by credit card...and GTM should easily identify which buyer, bought paid and where they live right? And from which seller?

2. Its absoulelty great that we would now have the credit card companies chasing these ppl from buyers who either could not enter the event or did not receive the tickets (I do feel sorry for these buyers, but I mean at least we have the big credit card companies picking these ppl up on there radar)..and why is there a mess up, its beacause GTM decided to use there "central hub" facility to dispatch tickets instead of what is stipulated on there website?

Also, dont be intimadated on this being called illegal. The way we sold tickets is not, i repeat not illegal. Yes, it is illegal to buy and sell tickets for this event IN THE UK, but we have seen it happen with Thomas Sport, and Keith Powrse, I dint see anyone try and stop them BUT we did not buy and sell in the UK technically. You see companies like viagogo uk & seatwave uk did not sell tickets from the uk sites, while there french, german, dutch, SPANISH sites did. GTM posed as a SPANISH company. We sold tickets for a game we could not attend to a spanish company which was being advertised to us by the british media / was on top of google / and was reciving a lot of mention. After we advertised our tickets and given our credit card details as assurance we received a sale. At that point we were asked to send the tickets to an address in the UK.. Could we pull out? NO, as we thought we were bound to the t&c of GTM. If GTM was a uk company then what we did would be considered a minor offence, for them a major one...but GTM knew if they were a UK company it would be illegal.

So who is doing something illegal here, us selling via a big internet advertised company supposedly based in Spain, or GTM who are buying our tickets in various parts of England and then re-distributing them?

The only offenders here are GTM, and should i not be paid very very soon. I will be taking every legal step, even if it costs me a few quid to make sure the police / interpol / trading standards / media spotlight this. Yes they might be in spain for now, but they all sound very brit to me. I also have a few associates who provided private security for the spanish national team in south africa last july along with there spanish high ranking counter-parts. With south africa being such a dangerous country the spanish team and officials feel a high degree of gratitude to my associates. I have made some calls, and the word is, "if these ppl are in spain, and have broken the law, we have the full backing of these officials to find them through there channels and arrest them" ha ha ha. How long do you plan on running 5 / 10 / 30 years? You want to be the next Ronnie Biggs, be my guest! :-)

Feeling sick you are being naive come on now.
How long does it take to put money into a person's account when all the details were given to them weeks ago ? unless they hav mugged 1000's
even hundreds of records should not take more than a day.
I am sure we can still trace them as they have used addresses in this country someone must have lived there even if they used false ID or still living there. they must have submitted some paper work to rent the places etc

I got an email yesterday from them saying that they are processing the payment and will be in touch shortly. These things can sometimes take a bit of time... am I being Naive thinking that they will still pay me?

Hi,
First time I write here. I sold 2 tickets and I think I´m not getting any money... I´m happy to join you and go to the same police station in London as the rest of the people.

The message in Spanish is a voicemail from a Spanish Vodafone mobile. It says that the telephone number is (+[protected]

JL

I am filling a report here: http://www.actionfraud.org.uk/report_fraud. You can also do it via the phone by calling [protected]. After i do so, calling the police.

Come on people, we need to do something about it. We have been mugged big time and they are just laughing at our incompetence to do anything. Let's all take some action right now.

Just spoke to a guy phone back on said he was really busy and call me back in an hour what a tosser just can't work it out!

Hi,

1. How many people have contacted there local police and filed a report?
2. How many in London want to file a report? We can do it individually but at the same station, it would make things much easier? I would say the more reports the better!

WE NEED TO ACT QUICK!

I just phoned both numbers and the 0871 has a message saying goodbye.

The other London number has a message in Spanish.

These guys have long gone but they definitely live in the UK and can be traced.

Yeah lines are down and but they have replied to my email as I sent them proof of my tickects from uefa which they sold? Still waiting for my £4500 though c@nts!

OK, both of the lines are down at the moment. I think they are properly on the run now and no point expecting anything more to come out from GTM...

I also sold a ticket through Global Ticket Market and I am yet to recieve any money. I also sent my ticket to Taylor White in Bromley which seems to be a regular address on here. I really doubt the same person bought more than 5 tickets off GTM. I suppose im lucky as i have only lost the money i paid for my ticket but i feel sorry for you guys who bought tickets off the site and received no ticket and lost 000's of £'s. I am also based in Manchester and if i can be of any help of finding these w@nkers and blocking their money. I would also say anyone who created an account and left card details on there site including the 3 digit security code on the back cancel your card a get a new one jsut to be on the safe side ! I knew i should have realised this was a scam when i rang them up and spoke to a scouser on the phone ! :0

I'm in this with you guys... I am based in Manchester so i could report them to the authorities in Manchester... Guys who bought tickets and did a Bank Transfer... PLZ PLZ PLZ put there details out there. The police are unable to do anything without this. If anybody needs to contact me then my number is on a previous comment or email me... I have had a number of people get in contact...

I have just reported them to trading standards if lots of us do it they may start taking notice. Form takes a long time to complete

They sent me an email at 1837 this evening saying they needed my proof of purchase as need to check all purchasers who had bought tickets from then had gained entry. Why bother to email me after the event if it is a scam?

Has anyone reported them to trading standards?

@ Wibbly, Yeah i think he just thought it was minor...from the people i have spoken to this could be between a £500 000 - £2 000 000 swindle. I like to see the met refuse to investigate that. Trust me this is being seen as much bigger then we thought. The beijing ticket scandal has brought all these companies who try a quick swindle to the attention of authorities, maybe not the ones answering the initial calls but higher up. And if you ask me this is much worse then the beijing ticket scandal, there ppl bought tickets and did not receive them as the company insisted another company did not supply them (all lies). Here GTM has taken the property of you / me / every seller, sold them onto buyers, got paid and now are holding back on paying us!
Much worse!

Boys i reported them twice a week agao and The Met told me we had to report it to trading standards. The guy just wanted to get me off the phone.

Theres you, me and stokarfi for now. Anybody else want to share ideas?

And were all london based so we could make a complaint seperatly but at the same police station!
The more complaints the better!

Can't be just you and me who want to do something about this? can it ?

@ Global ticket market Victim - Just send it from you panel, click on my profile and it has the option of send e-mail. I think they are not expecting any kind of fight and taking the lot of us for a bunch of MUGs! While they are buying cocktails in Spain with our cash!

Denver79 what is your mail ?
For me it is just a matter of principle even if we do not get our money back put them out of business will do me

Hi, I think its definetly a ploy to buy time. I have asked on here several times, WE NEED THERE BANK DETALS IN THE UK! IF WE ARE EVER GOING TO STOP THEM DISAPPEARING! A FEW PPL DID BANK TRANSFERS SO PLS HELP!

The fact that they are still trying to buy time suggests they have not removed all the cash from there accounts.

I have a few suggestions on going forward but I do not want to jeopardize our cause by becoming too public on this board.

If anyone wants to pursue them and is as angry as I am pls contact me by sending me a private e-mail. Cheers

Hi David taylor86 sent you a few texts today from work regarding this.
Let me know how you get on tomorrow although deep down i know that we are chasing a lost cause. What exactly can we do about it ?
they are even not based here technically ? they Probably live here though. They capitalised on the fact that not many official sites would accept these tickets to be sold on their domain.

In my opinion the least we can do is now try and put them out of business by making as much publicity as we can about their scam because they are still trading right now and other people will fall for it.
They may well come back under a different name but now we know if payment is only after the event forget it. I deliberatly used the pseudo Global ticket market victim just in case people do a google search on it hopefully this will come up not sure. Don't know waht else to do to be honest.

I have had the same problem we will never see the colour of our money i think that they are jusst buying time windown the business take all the money out of the country and disaappear again until nex olympics . it is an organised scam and we all fell for it.

They are just buying time will probably tell you that them tickets wern't allowed to be used it's a ###ing scam end of!I am expecting £4650 more chance of my hair growing and I am bald

Benson79... I got told the same thing! Wanted to know where i ordered them from, block and row etc... She was a woman, i dont believe a word they say ATM :(

i know it will not make you feel any better (benson 79) but i have had to do exactly the same today.the goalposts move every phone call it is a different excuse.i was feeling very sick to the core ...but now i dont feel so bad because all these people are experiencing the same emotions and now i can accept that i have been scammed, oh how stupid do we all feel.
i hope i am wrong and we will receive payment ...but i am not holding my breath ...we must not let this die...this complaints board is now at the top of google we must try to do something...only nobody will care as they will say that we are just as bad by selling tickets for inflated prices.

I've just spoken to a guy called Dave Gorman. He's asked me to send an e-mail with my reference number and where I purchased the tickets from for selling (UEFA, MUFC or FCB) and also to advise him of the seat numbers etc. He said they had some technical issues and will be processing payments over the next couple of days.
I'm obviously sceptical, but am going to do as he requests (obviously no bank details!).
Fingers crossed and I'll keep you all posted.

I have taken further legal advice but without knowing GTM's bank details there's not much that can be done to stop all monies being removed!

Guys I sold two tickets for £3800... Posted them to portland street, Michael sum1. Rang them every day, someone has answered each time. I spoke to James/Clive and a female today. They insist I should get my money by start of next week latest.. They always told me it would be 2-5 days after the event.. I have cancelled my card as they can still do a BACS if they are legit. If anybody wants to speak with me my number is [protected]. I am eager to get the police involved if it's required.

Hi dcp770. Your incident sounds a lot like mine, close to the half way line, great seats and around the same price. Has anyone out there sold there tickets for something much higher, maybe over 4k a ticket? It would be interesting to know, send me a private message if you prefer not to disclose. I want to know if there were many too good to be true sales out there? Also, heres one: DID ANYONE LIST THERE TICKETS AND IT REMAINED UN-SOLD? You cudnt sell it on GTM and you did so elsewhere?

I think the 10 day period is non-sense, it clearly says 2-5 days and thats what I am keeping too. Anything longer and we need to take action. Why say 10 days initially, then you will be paid very soon, then 2-5 days and then move back to 10days?

dcp770, if it helps i do think a tout would pay in excess of £3k a ticket. Remember there were 90 000 seats, 50 000 went to fans that went to 9-10 away CL games on both sides (not even season ticket holders at united got tickets straight out) and only 11 000 in the Uefa ballot. The rest went to the UEFA "Family", allocation to the big-wigs, and I would hope this is were michael owen got his 26 tickets from! ;-) For a big game involving 2 of the most supported teams in the world there wasnt that much of freely available tickets for supporters, let alone neutrals. And then to contest it in wembley added much further to getting any ticket you could. I mean if the people on c/list are buying / selling for £2k a piece, why would someone who is in the money not pay £3-£4k a ticket, especially if it is on the half way line? I mean we have all read the press, tickets going for 5-8k a pop. I think dont under estimate how priceless finding a ticket was...maybe a day before the game you could have got them for £500-£1000 each, but thats always going to be the case with any major event.