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NAFPS/Al Carroll, Kathryn Price NicDhana, Sky Davis, Debbie Moran / fraud website

3 United States Review updated:
Contact information:

No Native Tribal endorsement or affiliation

has been removed from over a dozen servers

Administrators are not NDN

Libel, Slander, Defamation, Identity Theft, Cyber-Stalking, Computer Hacking

Former illegal and locked Esowatch site

Unethical, poor research, privacy invasion

fearmongering, manipulation, sock puppet accounts, psychologically abusive

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Dec 27, 2017
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  • Qu
      29th of Jan, 2018
    Best Best Advice +17 Votes

    "No one at NAFPS has never been convicted of libel"

    Just because they haven't been convicted of libel (yet) does not mean they have not engaged in it. Repeatedly.

    What a house of cards.

  • Co
      25th of Apr, 2018
    -16 Votes

    For one thing, NAFPS is neither a business nor a product. NAFPS is a longstanding Native-run, educational website and community forum, and it is completely non-profit. It is predominantly staffed by Natives, but anyone is allowed to join and help expose the frauds and predators who prey on spiritual seekers. Even the frauds are allowed to sign in and speak for themselves.

    The pretendians, exploiters, white supremacists and criminals exposed by NAFPS are now using these scam report pages to lie about the anti-racist volunteers who work to expose these harmful people. Most of the text these "reports" use is lies and howlers of disinformation copied and pasted from the pages of neo-Nazis and paid cybertrolls, several of them hired by a convicted rapist.

    So, congratulations newage ripoffs, in attacking this community of indigenous people and their allies, you're in the same boat with rapists, batterers, and the Charlottesville Nazis. But the people who post this stuff already know thist. That's why these attacks on indigenous-led networks like NAFPS are happening - with Trump in power, the white supremacists and misogynists are on the march. And they are attempting to subvert sites like this to punch down and harm innocent people.

  • Co
      30th of Apr, 2018
    0 Votes

    No more Dairy Queen for you

  • Co
      30th of Apr, 2018
    0 Votes

    @Concerned Activist's Dad that was meant for Democrats are [censored]

  • Fr
      3rd of May, 2018
    +15 Votes

    @Concerned Activist Who are you trying to kid

    You are the biggest pretendian on the site

  • Fr
      4th of May, 2018
    +8 Votes

    @Concerned Activist's Dad Democrats is a NAFPS set up. Ignore him

  • Fr
      15th of May, 2018
    +15 Votes

    @Concerned Activist non-profit lol it is not even legit. Where do we send the donation checks to. Al's bank account in Europe probably.

  • Fr
      21st of May, 2018
    +8 Votes

    @Concerned Activist This started when Obama was in office and Trump was not even an issue but nice try.

  • Co
      30th of Apr, 2018
    +17 Votes

    Karen, Nancy, Susan, Cate, Awa, Valerie, Little Creek, Aki ikwe, Robin, Heather, Angelica, and the other women who had the courage to speak up are lying on the complaint board? They are white supremacists, misogynists, rapists, batterers, Nazis? That makes about as much sense as everything else you have written. They probably think they are in the same boat with the #metoo #timesup or #neveragain movement. People are complaining because they are trying to subvert NAFPS from punching down and harming innocent people using dirty methods. You are with that criminal illegal organization Esowatch that wrote on many dirty servers before it was shut down. You are a fraud site and you lie lie lie.

  • Na
      30th of Apr, 2018
    +17 Votes

    NAFPS is mostly run by whites from Europe. Most of the texts are from actual natives who expose these liars and howlers of disinformation and expose these harmful people. Congrats to those exposing the fraud website. You are in the same boat with real natives who are trying to expose these fakes. That's why attacks on NAFPS are happening. Trying to prevent fake sites like this that punch down and harm innocent people.

  • Fr
      2nd of May, 2018
    +15 Votes

    There is no neo-Nazi page, there are no paid cybertrolls and there is no hiring rapist. The man being talked about was found innocent by the highest court in the land and his friends support him. The supposed Neo-nazi site is run by a full blooded Lakota who admitted to being a Democrat. The people who are making complaints on a complaint board are not rapists, batterers or nazis but victims, mostly female victims, of one of the biggest bullying websites on the internet. Respected elders do not endorse this group. No recognized tribe has sanctioned this site. They are violating people, and dealing with tribal issues that don't belong to them.

  • By
      2nd of May, 2018
    +15 Votes

    NAFPS is not a First Nation Advocacy Group, they have no tribal affiliations and act badly.

    Dr. Al Carrol nor NAFPS has any First Nation affiliation nor any tribal affiliation. They have misused their opportunities with their website to run abusive campaigns against anyone they dislike or disapprove. This includes bonafide Native American Spiritual leaders or ceremonial leaders that include non-Natives in their practices. NAFPS has no entitlement to claim any authority or special knowledge of who and what has rights to Native America they have shown by their own behavior that they cannot be trusted to honestly live up to their self proclaimed mandate to abuse only non-Natives and call real Native Spiritual leaders frauds.

    We humbly ask that the interview with Al Carroll be removed from the film Spirits for Sale.

    Elizabeth, for concerned Citizens for Native American Exploitation and Abuse

  • Fr
      27th of May, 2018
    +14 Votes

    Shame on them for being complicit with Psiram which was Esowatch knowing full well what they support

    https://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/newagefraudorg-libel-slander-identity-theft-hate-speech-cyber-bullying-c788456.html

  • Fr
      31st of May, 2018
    +14 Votes

    https://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=https://antipsiram.wordpress.com/2015/06/06/psiram-100000-euro-von-der-pharma-lobby/&prev=search

  • In
      25th of Jun, 2018
    +11 Votes

    Who is Esowatch and why does Esowatch use a pedophile server? - Hidden behind the dirty German-hatred sites ESOWATCH.COM is a criminal Internet project created in 2007 by Dr. Klaus Ramstöck (KrazyKraut?) and his wife Dr. Ing (Ingeborg?) Anja Ramstöck… an Internet pillory in the form of a wiki, a blog for censure and hate polemics as well as a forum for the coordination of campaigns, for the maintenance of their own community and for search engine optimization.

    Esowatch, which belongs to the intelligence services… the BKA, BND, StaatsSchutz, to the Central Council of Jews, the Israeli Mossad, the American CIA… is now the anonymous website Psiram, which is widely believed to be financed by Big Pharma.

    The creators of the anonymous Internet pillar benefit from the technical resources and the employee know-how of SyroCon Consulting GmbH ... since 2010 the subject of prosecution investigations in Germany.

    People are portrayed in a manner that violates § 186 StGB (Defamation) and § 187 StGB (Defamation) in the vast majority of cases. Also systematic violations of copyright and personal rights.

    NAFPS is part of this Internet pillory.

  • An
      17th of Oct, 2018
    -2 Votes

    http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=1235.0
    NAFPS Is Proud to Work With Or Be Used As a Resource By...

    Groups and individuals that NAFPS Has Worked With, Including Those That Are Members of NAFPS and Other Activist Groups

    American Indian Movement Chapters:
    AIM Arizona
    AIM Indiana
    AIM Support Group of Northern Kentucky/Ohio
    MASSAIM
    New England AIM

    American Indian Heritage Support Center
    CERTAIN
    Honor Nation
    ICARE
    Iron Lodge (Native Prisoners Support Group)
    Our Red Earth
    Red Road Collective
    Albuquerque Indian Center (NAFPS members toured Europe on a speaking tour to raise funds for them.)

    Native Issues Supporters in Europe:
    World In Our Hands Foundation
    Fourth World
    NANAI

    Sites that list NAFPS as a resource, work with NAFPS members, or whose members recommend NAFPS, in alphabetical order:

    AllExperts.com
    http://en.allexperts.com/e/s/sh/shamanism.htm

    AmericanIndianPrisoners.com (Native Prisoners Support Group)
    http://www.americanindianprisoners.com/Pages/Al%20Carroll.htm

    Americas Indigenous People, New Age, and Cultural Appropriation
    http://www.stelling.nl/simpos/native_americans.htm

    Anthropik Network
    http://anthropik.com/2005/10/neoshamanism-is-masturbation/

    Blog Critics Magazine
    http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/03/24/094810.php

    Blue Corn Comics
    http://www.bluecorncomics.com/stype3af.htm

    Care 2 Make a Difference
    http://www.care2.com/c2c/groups/disc.html?gpp=10787&pst=773492&archival=

    Curanderismo Research Project
    http://www.ojinaga.com/phoneyshamans.html

    Dakota Lakota Singing
    http://drumhop.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.pl?board=BSA&action=display&num=1108616601&start=46
    http://tinyurl.com/25ky4y

    DBPedia.iorg
    http://dbpedia.org/page/Shamanism

    Do No Harm (Anishinaabe Activists)
    http://www.donoharm.bravepages.com/OctoberActions.html

    Reviewer on Ebay
    http://tinyurl.com/37ppmf

    Engler Refugee's Homepage
    http://www.geocities.com/englerrefugee/

    Guru Ratings (Provides Warnings on Dangerous Gurus, Kind of a Hindu Version of NAFPS)
    http://www.globalserve.net/~sarlo/Ratlinks.htm

    Health on Health
    http://www.healthonhealth.com/Health-Reference/S/Shamanism

    Indian Religion Beliefs
    http://www.winzy.com/keyword/Indian%20Religion%20Beliefs

    Internet Infidels Discussion Board (Skeptics Society)
    http://www.iidb.org/vbb/archive/index.php/t-7950.html

    Issues Affecting American Indians in Tennessee
    http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=199489;article=16531

    Journical.com
    http://www.journical.com/article.php?q=Shaman

    Kisikew Wiki, Indigenous News

    Ladyhawk's Hogan
    http://groups.msn.com/LadyhawksHogan/ndnissues1.msnw?all_topics=1

    Lakhota.com
    http://www.lakhota.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=2693

    Library of Library.com
    http://libraryoflibrary.com/E_n_c_p_d_Plastic_shaman.html+nafps

    Native Culture Links
    http://www.nativeculturelinks.com/general.html

    NativePeoplesTribes.net
    http://nativepeoples.tribe.net/thread/cbdbb78b-b006-4c95-a68f-ab3e6b46a199

    Native Youth Magazine
    http://www.nativeyouthmagazine.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=61

    OccultForums.com
    http://www.occultforums.com/archive/index.php?t-19575.html

    PeakOil.com (Conservation board)
    http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic14491-0-asc-75.html

    Planet Twinkie
    http://www.geocities.com/planettwinkie//Links.html

    PrisonTalk.com
    http://www.prisontalk.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-142879.html

    Raising Our Collective Voices (Native Woman Activist)
    http://windthruherhair.tripod.com/fightback.html

    Red Road Collective (Anishinaabe Women Activists)
    http://www.geocities.com/redroadcollective/Books.html

    ReligiousForums.com
    http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-19940.html

    Saponitown.com (Geneology Forum)
    http://www.saponitown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1734&page=3

    Six Nations Reclamation Info
    http://www.reclamationinfo.com/phpBB2/

    Snopes.com (Urban Legend Debunkers)
    http://msgboard.snopes.com/message/ultimatebb.php?/ubb/get_topic/f/21/t/001116/p/1.html

    Tutor Gig Encyclopedia
    http://www.tutorgig.com/ed/shamanism

    Waldorf Critics
    http://www.waldorfcritics.org/active/archives/WCA0401.html

    Wayshelter
    http://wayshelter.com/CulturalDirectory/Kitchen/Learning_Respectful.htm

    Wikivisual
    http://en.wikivisual.com/index.php/Plastic_shaman

    Yahoo Answers
    http://answers.yahoo.com/

    Many Pagan sites, whose members often mistakenly fell for Nuage exploiters, have turned to NAFPS as a resource.
    http://pub21.bravenet.com/forum/1732203021/fetch/339064/
    http://www.duluthpagans.com/readings.asp
    http://www.mysticwicks.com/archive/index.php/t-71208.html
    http://www.spiralnature.com/magick/tradvsneopagantotemism.html
    http://www.wiccanweb.ca/wiki/index.php/Plastic_Shaman
    http://www.collegewicca.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=67&PN=1
    http://thevalley.ukpagan.com/lofiversion/index.php/t12418.html
    http://www.magickaschool.com/forum/viewtopic.php?=&p=31938
    http://www.druidry.org/board/dhp/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=15953
    http://www.ttem.org/forum/index.php?topic=783.0

    The list of sites that used NAFPS as a resource vs exploiter James Arthur Ray:

    NY Times (freelancer John Dougherty)

    Chicago Tribune (reporter Daniel Simmons)

    CBS News- Early Show (reporter Elizabeth Bacelar)

    WNYC Radio- The Takeaway (producer David Fazekas) request for interview, unfortunately I was busy teaching at the time.

    Anderson Cooper 360 of CNN (producer Ismael Estrada) same as above

    People magazine (reporter Howard Breur)

    Arizona Daily Star http://regulus2.azstarnet.com/blogs/senorreporter

    NY Travel Writers Assn http://nytwa.info/edwetschler

    Rodale magazine http://www.rodale.com/deaths-sweat-lodges?page=0%2C1

    Body + Soul magazine http://www.wholeliving.com/

    Update, new sites.

    http://www.abc-directory.com/site/2639304
    Listed in it as a resource for surviving cults.

    http://archaeologica.boardbot.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2121&start=15
    Archaeologica

    http://www.answers.com/topic/medicine-man
    Answers.com

    http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2314817/the_shamans_of_sedona.html?cat=68
    Associated Content

    http://www.pusinsuyu.com/voixautochtones/html/ressources.html
    Autonomous Voices, seems to be a Native issues support site in French

    http://jonn.co.uk/garymannion/modules/news/article.php?storyid=51
    Bad Psychics

    http://barrysblog.freedomblogging.com/2007/12/05/weekend-warriors-trivializing-native-american-traditions/
    Barry's Blog

    http://www.bandia.net/caorann/
    CAORANN, antiracist Pagan site

    http://www.care2.com/c2c/groups/disc.html?gpp=4652&pst=99803
    Care 2 Groups

    http://centralflorida.cherokee.org/Links/tabid/1655/Default.aspx
    Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma official website

    http://thecirclenews.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=206&Itemid=39
    The Circle, one of the oldest Native newspapers

    http://www.citizendia.org/Native_Americans_in_the_United_States
    Citizendia

    http://www.computernewbie.info/wheatdogg/2009/05/11/a-sad-curious-tale-of-rampant-duplicity-and-stupidity/
    Computer Newbie. Then James Mooney comes on to defend himself, and gets taken down by a couple members.

    http://chrysalis1witchesjourney.wordpress.com/2009/04/14/rambles-about-cultural-missapropriation-and-community-involvement/
    Chrysalis Witch, arguing against cultural appropriation

    http://en.cyclopio.com/Plastic%20shaman
    Cyclopio

    http://sites.google.com/site/dehaluyi/americanindianfactsforeuropeans
    Dehaluyi

    http://www.druidry.org/board/dhp/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=15953&p=181711
    Druid Grove

    http://blogs.myspace.com/emer_wolfrider
    Emer Wolfrider

    http://plantspedia.org/info/NAFPS
    Ency of Plants

    http://www.enotes.com/topic/Cultural_appropriation?print=1
    ENotes

    http://www.evocationmagic.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=2652&p=26171
    Evocation Magic, Pagan Site

    http://files.meetup.com/166515/Shamanism.doc
    Files Meetup

    http://www.freebase.com/view/en/nafps
    Free Base

    http://gnuuu.blogspot.com/2007/12/i-found-interesting-website-today-nafps.html
    Musings from Xavier Ashe, a post-catholic shamanic humanist existentialist pantheist that recently became a Lay Minister at the Unitarian Universalist Congregation of Atlanta.

    http://halrager.org/WordPress/2009/10/
    Hal Rager

    http://www.hanksville.org/sand/intellect/newage.html
    Hanksville is one of the oldest resources for information on Natives.

    http://www.homecircle.info/LinksNA.html
    Home Circle

    http://www.examiner.com/x-21776-SF-Longevity-Examiner~y2009m11d2-Be-your-own-best-guru-for-healthy-longevity?cid=exrss-SF-Longevity-Examiner
    Houston Examiner

    http://lizditz.typepad.com/i_speak_of_dreams/2004/01/i_am_working_on.html
    I Speak of Dreams, teaching site

    http://www.jackmtn.com/simplog/?p=133
    Jack Mountain, Survival Training Instructor with zero tolerance for Nuage nonsense.

    http://www.uga.edu/religion/syl/2004rk.pdf
    Professor Russell Kirkland, Univ of Georgia instructor in Religion, uses as a resource in his course Introduction to Religion in Native American Cultures.

    http://users.skynet.be/kola/ipfagenda.html
    Kola, European support for Peltier

    http://culture.kosmix.com/topic/Inipi
    Kosmix

    http://www.leaftine.com/docs/leaf_thesis.pdf
    Leaftine, a performance artist, referencing in his master’s thesis.

    http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/011748.html
    Making Light

    http://www.freewebs.com/manyrivers/page3.html
    Many Rivers

    http://www.maoliworld.com/profiles/blog/show?id=2011971:BlogPost:196711
    Maoli World, Native Hawaiian Blog

    http://www.startribune.com/local/44755337.html?elr=KArks:DCiU1PciUoaEYY_4PcUU
    Minneapolis Tribune

    http://elizabethtool.com/page/96/?archives-list&archives-type=months
    Once Upon a Time in the West, nice comments.

    http://natube.magnify.net/messages/view/FRNSBMJY7K8V9BMG
    Native American Tube

    http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/indians_rage_over_mtv_show_JZzh5RqoeNTkmPEHxCIJWK

    http://www.myspace.com/ndnspiritualthiefs
    NDN Spiritual Thiefs

    http://www.nonfluffy.com/archives/2007_12.html
    Nonfluffy Wicca

    http://forums.plentyoffish.com/5043566datingPostpage2.aspx
    Plenty of Fish Forum. Dating site that uses us as a resource in their Religion section.

    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/index.php?title=RationalWiki:Websites&redirect=no
    Rational Wiki

    http://www.realitysandwich.com/shamans_and_charlatans_assessing_castanedas_legacy
    Reality Sandwich

    http://www.republicoflakotah.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=479
    Russell Means's bunch.

    http://www.religionexplorer.com/top/Opposing_Views/New_Age/Chats_and_Forums
    Religion Explorer

    http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/native-american-dir/93403-lakota-spirituality-exploitation-issue.html
    Religious Forums

    http://forum.rickross.com/read.php?12, 77450, 81497
    Rick Ross, one of the leading cultwatch sites. Nice compliments about our work against James Ray.

    http://righthealth.com/topic/Inipi
    Right Health

    http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?t=23259&start=0
    Rigorous Intuition

    http://blogs.democratandchronicle.com/business/2010/02/09/safeguarding-against-new-age-fraud/
    Rochester Democrat, local newspaper

    http://www.powwows.com/gathering/native-issues/30327-exposing-fake-medicine-men-women-5.html
    If you don't know the site, where have you been?

    http://newagefraud.wordpress.com/2010/07/02/shaman-links/
    Shaman Links

    http://www.skepdic.com/refuge/harm15.html
    Skeptic’s Dictionary

    http://www.spiritandsky.com/skeptics/new-age/chats-and-forums/
    Spirit and Sky

    http://stereotype.drumhop.com/
    Stereotype Drumhop antiracist page

    http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2009/09/23/africa-stupidity
    The Stranger, Seattle newspaper

    Organization in Eskasoni, TREATY BENEFICIARIES ASSOCIATION; to find one can search the Nova Scotia database: https://rjsc.gov.ns.ca/rjsc/acceptTerms.do?lang=en

    http://tribes.tribe.net/3olivedirtymartini/thread/b070d4a6-5093-40a8-9138-b6387758ea65
    Tribe.Net

    http://www.tripatlas.com/NAFPS
    Trip Atlas

    http://www.2012hoax.org/forum/t-185278/hopi
    2012 Hoax

    http://www.ulctribal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8381
    ULC Intertribal

    http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=176353&st=15
    Unexplained Mysteries

    http://uscmediareligion.org/?theScoop
    Univ of Southern California

    http://wicca.timerift.net/links.shtml
    Wicca for the Rest of Us

    http://www.vtap.com/wikitap/detail/Native_Americans_in_the_United_States/WIKI21217
    Wikitap

    http://wildhunt.org/blog/2007/12/danger-of-wannabes.html
    Wild Hunt

    http://www.wildspeak.com/links.html
    Wild Speak

    http://www.wildwoodsurvival.com/_jthy/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=972
    Wildwood Survival

    http://www.worldlingo.com/ma/enwiki/en/Plastic_shaman
    World Lingo

    http://zhahara.livejournal.com/40222.html
    Zhahara

  • An
      17th of Oct, 2018
    -3 Votes

    You tell me, who is more reliable? The Cherokee Nation, AIM, universities, and hundreds of others? Or the anonymous scared-to-death racists whining about being exposed who started this thread?

    Natives know better. Deal with it, racist wannabes and wackos.

  • Al
      23rd of Oct, 2018
    +3 Votes

    The Cherokee Nation, AIM and universities are more reliable but you are not part of them anonymous wacko pretendian and psiram, esowatch phony

  • Al
      23rd of Oct, 2018
    +3 Votes

    Out of the first 50+ sites listed here are the results

    30 do not exist, page is not found or page can not be reached
    one site has a list of Harry Potter books
    one has a definition of shamanism
    one is a heart disease page
    one is an ebay listing that no longer exists
    one is an occult chat board
    5 more are chat boards
    one is a petition site
    one is a new age chat board
    one is for wicca spells
    one is for smoothie shakes
    3 are articles by different authors with no mention of NAFPS
    one is an e-mail about a play
    one has yahoo questions and answers asked by anyone using yahoo
    one is an article by educatedindian aka Al

    I gave up after that

  • Al
      23rd of Oct, 2018
    +3 Votes

    Missed a page

    one is a Forbidden site
    one had a loud siren warning and was red flagged
    The Circle - put new age frauds and plastic shamans into search and no results, put Al Carroll into search and a page on measles appeared
    one was a Netflix movie
    more chat boards, more page not found or can't be reached or page does not exist, more articles written by other people with no mention of NAFPS
    COARANN is run by one of the admins of NAFPS
    another petition site
    looks like no one wanted to date Al on Plenty of Fish, they were too busy talking about animal totems, spirit guides, guardian angels and Jesus Christ
    Rational Wiki is the playground of Psiram
    one was how to lower your triglycerides
    one was a talk on the end of the world in 2012 that never happened
    one was a BBC report on African witchdoctors
    one was an article on Google glasses
    one talked about zombies

    Your references are not very convincing. Many go no where. You might want to deal with it.

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