The complaint has been investigated and
resolved to the customer's satisfaction
alibaba.comscammers (trade website) are the biggest crooks ever! Alibaba allows any company that advertises on their website to buy "gold/platnium and premium" membership logo's to advertise on their site for $300-$500, therefore, the customer thinks it's a reputable company. When you do business with these so called platnium membership companies and get scammed, most customers contact alibaba. Alibaba's first words to you are "i'm sorry, we (alibaba) are not responsible for companies advertising fraudulent businesses. Alibaba is a china based company itself. There are 1000's of companies in china advertising on alibaba. If alibaba is making $300-$500 for advertising these gold/platnium/premium memberships, why can't alibaba afford to have these companies verified? How much could it possibly cost to have an employee go out to these companies and verify the legal existence of them? Consumers are steadily being scammed by companies advertised on alibaba but alibaba does nothing about it to protect consumers. All alibaba can offer is an apology and inform the consumer to do their own investigating on a company before doing business, but yet it's a company that the consumer found on alibaba. Consumers do as much research as they could on these companies through sites like fraudwatch and other sites which advertise companies that are scammers but companies like alibaba who continue to advertise these scammers are nothing more than scammers themselves. With that, I say if alibaba can't do more to protect it's consumers and get the companies on their website legally verfied and have their credentials posted, then I wouldn't buy anything advertised on alibaba. Alibaba are the real thieves!!!


  • Li
    liz80219 Jan 22, 2014

    I have shopped through them quite a few times and have never had an issue my products have come in time, no extra charges and everything has been what i have wanted. I have not ordered anything electronic from them or even online that to me seems not to bright anything can happen during shipping. As with anything from china when it comes to sizes make sure you order a size larger since they run small.

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  • Gu
    guy St-Pierre Jan 22, 2014
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    Moi aussi j ai acheter, mais directement de la chine, j ai trouver une machine a cloner les clés transpondeurs ma belle soeur étant en chine est aller me la chercher directement a l usine de chine et me l a envoyé je m en suis servi 2 fois et ne fonctionne plus il me dise que ce n est pas garantie, après plusieurs courriels, je doit payer le transport et qu il vont la réparé et me l envoyer à leur frais je l ai recu et même chose...Qualité en chine est vraiment médiocre je dirias même que c est de la merde coût total $ 600.00Us plus tout le trouble.Je suggères aux Canadien de ne pas acheter en chine.

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  • Om
    Omkute Dec 10, 2012
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    Always stealing american designs. Screw them.

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  • Tp
    tpain987 Nov 27, 2012

    Two Words! Buy American!

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  • Na
    Naimess Jun 12, 2012
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    They hd e pay 707.22 usd to a Grace yao in Qingdao for 100% remy hair. the hair started to shed and swell and tangle once washed. could not receive an exchange or refund. they say hit confirm order button if received and satisfied. how am i to get hairdressers appointment, attach hair wash it and write review before 5 days? please do not buy anything fro them. you cant get your money back. called california office wendy quite trite and rude. my escrow fee gone.

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  • Ro
    Romirezz Sep 09, 2011
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    Piece of S$#IT want to lose your money? Go ahead and order, you have been warned.

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    Lindsay Charles Nov 30, 2010

    Do not buy from LUCKFAITH TECHNOLOGY LIMITED the contact guy is VIVIAN. Money was sent by me via Western Union for a Canon SLR Camera to this guy First name Jin Shan Last name Chen City Putian Province Fujian Country China Zip 35110. Various emails between him and myself are the same old story " It will be sent in 2 days " What a load of garbage, it aint gonna happen.
    Phone # [protected] mobile [protected]. I have learnt my lesson, I will not buy anything through the AILIBABA website or from CHINA. This ALIBABA site should be taken off the internet.

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  • Jb
    jb1988 Nov 18, 2010

    We are making a unique forum where those who have been scammed by Alibaba, GlobalSources, Made-in-China can submit a complain. Apart form that this forum provides free of cost reports, how-tos and a definitive guide to those who are new in the sourcing business. To make this happen we need your assistance. This forum is an initiative taken by the people who have been scammed by these Chinese sites. Please contact us hujelabs[at] with a subject "I was scammed".

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  • Dn
    dnclasse Oct 15, 2010

    Do NOT purchase anything from a guy by the name of ANDY LIN. His email address is [email protected] He will ask you to Western Union the money to someone by the name of Xiangfeng Meng.

    I was trying to purchase a TV and he quoted me for $300.00. I then asked him to send me the website, which was a fake or someone elses site. I was aprehensive and shouel have gone with my instincts not to purchase, but I figured that I was only purchasing a sample order first.

    I sent him the money, then he said the accountant was out until the am and he would contact me in the morning for confirmation. He never replied. I then made up a fake email to contact him again and he replies quickly. I asked him why he scammed me and he said that he was just a colleague so he couldn't help. I am very glad that it was only $300, but I do not want others to get scammed for more.

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  • Sc
    Scam Alerter Jul 17, 2010
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    a verified customer
    Verified customer and all of the suppliers listed on it, are run by the same people. They are one and the same.

    If you must purchase from another country, only ever use and no other method of payment. is the only way you will receive your goods, or your money back.

    If you wire Western Union or Bank Transfer, your money will disappear forever.


    ALIBABA.COM is just a fraudulent site set up to fleece unsuspecting buyers.

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  • No
    NORMA MORE Jun 11, 2010

    I was reading your comments and the same thing happened to me. I Iwas doing business negotiations with a guy named Arul Kandasamy. He is from India and supposely he has a business at

    A & U Inc. #87, North & South 2nd Street
    M.S. Colony, Coimbatore-641-026
    Ttamil Nadu, India.

    We emailed each other for 6 months and later went into business negotiations. He sent me samples of my product using my specifications and it all looked legitimate. He later asked to make three installment while the product was being manufactured. 1 year went by and finally one day he said that shippment was ready. He sent me the shipping company info which is a company named

    M/S SenthilKumar /Tex
    5 Kamarajar Nagar, 3rd Srreet
    Chinna Chockkikulam
    Madural 625002, TamiNadu, India

    All looked fine until he received my last payment and few days laterI received an emailed from Arul Kandasamy saying that there was a problem with the shipping company and all my boxes were damaged by water. I'ts now been another year and haven't heard from him since. We have sent threatning letter but it's all a scam. NEVER TRUST ANY SOURCE FROM ALIBABA.

    Norma More

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  • No
    nonlife May 25, 2010
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    Verified customer

    Je vous remercie pour votre contact, car c’est dramatique dans la vie de pauvres gens qui investissent le peu d’argent qui leur reste sauvé de la crise économique, pour l’investir comme moi.
    C’était toute ma vie car je ne pouvais plus travailler tous les jours dans un bureau, ma santé nécessitant des soins compliqués et ne pouvant pas restée inactive, sauf à ma mort, je me suis faite arnaquée sur Alibaba (pour moi alibaba et les 40 voleurs), car de par les constatations faites, ils vous jettent littéralement dans les griffes des voleurs, car ce sont eux-mêmes qui délivrent les fameuses sésames « gold supplier » ainsi que leur système de communication « trademanager » afin que les escrocs puissent mettre en action leurs plans bien pensés pour dépouiller de pauvres gens.
    Car il ne faut pas oublier leurs nombreuses vendeuses avec des prénoms de callgirls on se croirait dans un bordel qui racolent à longueur de journée en sonnant sur le buzzer.
    Je viens de faire la cuisante expérience et la maladie s’est aggravée, je ne dors plus ne mange plus .
    Dans un premier temps, on a honte de se faire arnaquer de la sorte avec des gens qui voient en vous que des pigeons à plumer, sans aucune compassion pour l’être humain que vous êtes.
    Ce sont des monstres, des aliens.
    Alibaba m’a mise en rapport avec une compagnie classée GOLD SUPPLIER, c’est donc confiante que j’ai écouté les blablas d’une certaine « Alina » qui au cours de la conversation par trademanager, que j’aie tout enregistré à son insu 79 pages sur word, je lui ai demandé son vrai nom elle ou il (je ne sais plus) me dit « LAN LUO » et je lui demandai sa signification elle me fit cette explication : « l’homme vaillant, qui brave les montagnes » pour une fille, la signification de ce nom devrait me mettre en alerte.
    Nous avions commencé sur trademanager, vers courant fin mars 2010 jusqu’en April, car lorsque je décelais une anomalie, elle avait vite fait de me donner une réponse plausible, ou alors il fait tard en Chine, ou elle a faim elle doit aller se restaurer ou elle a sommeil, ou encore je viens juste de sortir de l’école et c’est mon premier job, donnes-moi ma chance etc…
    Alors une première commande et j’ai refusé de payer par western union, d’ailleurs je n’aurais pas pu, car en France nous sommes limités à 500€, je lui proposai Paypal et elle refusa ces discussions ont duré une semaine et j’étais intraitable, elle me proposa moneygram, je ne connaissais pas cette méthode ni d’ailleurs western union seulement de nom.
    J’ai cru l’avoir convaincue pour Paypal lorsqu’au bout de huit heures de discussion au cours de laquelle un coup c’est oui un coup c’est non. Sans compter des nombreuses fois où elle devrait demander l’avis de son manager. Je lui réclamais tout simplement l’email de son département financier afin de faire un paiement unique de 2823, 50$, pour la compagnie.
    Elle se plaignait de s’être faite arnaquer trois fois par Paypal. (Il faut dire que moi-même, j’étais fatiguée, usée par des douleurs incessantes et l’esprit embrouillé par les médicaments) sinon j’aurai décelé tout de suite la contradiction, puisque sortant fraîchement de l’école, donc sans expérience, comment a-t-elle put se faire avoir par trois fois ???
    Mais entretemps j’avais des sollicitations de d’autres vendeurs de smartphones, iphones, mobiles etc…
    Je prenais régulièrement connaissance des divers messages et lorsqu’il y en avait qui m’intéressait je le marquais.
    La compagnie qui m’a contactée, dans laquelle Alina soi-disant travaillait depuis seulement deux semaines s’appelle : WWW.OKBUYTRADE.COM. Adresse email : [email protected]
    Or j’avais reçu dans mes messages le mail d’une certaine Jessy qui travaille pour la compagnie :
    WWW.SZVIETERTRADE.COM et l’adresse email : [email protected]
    Et voici l’adresse email du département financier de OKBUYTRADE : [email protected] donné par Alina de OKBUYTRADE.
    Lorsque je lui demandai surprise de combien de websites elle dispose ? Elle me dit 1. Et je lui fais remarquer la similitude d’emails sur lequel je dois effectuer un paiement avec une autre société qu’elle dit ne pas connaître. Elle m’envoya des séries de diplômes du manager qui étaient indéchiffrables puisqu’écrits en chinois.
    Alors c’étaient des lamentations, des fatigues subites, l’heure tardive en chine, et subitement c’est moi qui suis un escroc essayant de l’arnaquer par Paypal. Partant de ce revirement, j’ai fait la bêtise de lui démontrer que je suis parfaitement honnête et que je vais le lui prouver.
    Mais que je veux ni peux en aucun cas utiliser western union ou autre monegram, mais que je lui ferai séance tenante un virement bancaire. Et lorsque je lui demandai les coordonnées bancaires de la société, elle m’envoya celles du manager et moi d’insister un Relevé bancaire de la compagnie et elle de me dire que la société appartient à : Mr PING PING SHEN, le manager.
    Elle me donna ces renseignements ci-dessous, mais pas de code IBAN seulement le SWIFT (En Chine ils n’utilisent pas l’IBAN :
    C’est donc sûre de moi, car je pensais qu’il y aura une traçabilité, que j’ai donné l’ordre de virement à ma banque au profit de PING PING SHEN à la banque of china sud branch. Montant : 2823, 50$.
    Ils ont récupéré l’argent le 10 Mai 2010, mais pendant le délai d’acheminement du virement, j’avais des commandes de cartes graphiques et je demandai à Alina si elle en avait, c’était oui ! Mais comme l’ordre de virement de ma première commande était déjà parti, comme par hasard elle m’a fait des prix de telle sorte que je puisse payer par western union sans dépasser la limite et lorsque j’ai refusé c’étaient encore des propos concernant mes intentions de la duper, car elle n’aurait reçu aucun virement bancaire de ma part, et toutes mes argumentations de délai, de distance (Franc-Chine), et le temps de traitement de l’ordre de virement etc … Mes réponses ne la rassuraient pas, ou elle feignait la panique en retournant la situation en me faisant passer pour celle qui veut la tromper.
    Fatiguée et pressée par mes clients, j’ai cédé et je lui ai envoyé 585$ par western union.
    Lorsque je lui demandai de me livrer d’abord les cartes graphiques, car urgent, elle me rétorque qu’ils procèdent au regroupement de toutes les commandes provenant du même client, et comme ils m’offraient la livraison, ils font au plus économique. Je lui demandai de me les envoyer tous par UPS et que je paierai les frais. Elle dit ok, qu’elle doit en référer au département « logistique ».
    C’est à partir de ce moment-là, qu’elle commença à être progressivement invisible, jusqu’à m’éliminer de ses contacts. Elle peut me joindre mais moi pas.
    Alors je demandai à un ami de se faire passer pour un client, ce qu’il a fait et elle recommença de nouveau à lui faire le même discours « je suis fraîchement sortie de l’école, donnez-moi ma chance etc… » et subitement cet ami se fait passer pour un officier de police française et que j’avais déposé une plainte contre elle et sa compagnie, elle commença à paniquer, à s’embrouiller pour lui dire tout de go qu’elle se trouve à l’hôpital, gravement malade, c’est pour cela qu’elle n’avait pas répondues à mes sollicitations. Mon ami a commencé à le croire et je lui ai dit de lui réclamer le reçu de l’envoi des marchandises, elle m’envoya le formulaire d’affranchissement de colis dont elle m’avais envoyé déjà le code de tracking, et bien que j’aie attendu le délai de 2 jours, au bout du quatrième jour, l’ID était toujours inactif. D’ailleurs la partie du bordereau qui devrait mentionner le poids, la date et le coût de l’envoi est vide de mention.
    Alors toujours par l’intermédiaire de mon ami, je l’ai bousculée en la menaçant de prendre contact avec la police de son lieu de résidence c'est-à-dire l’adresse du site. Elle avoua ne pas avoir eu le temps de faire l’envoi et qu’elle le fera le lendemain puisqu’il fait et tout est fermé.
    Le lendemain, elle nous envoya encore le même bordereau vide scanné comme preuve, et j’allais insister lorsque mon ami me dit que l’ID de tracking commence à bouger et il me demanda de laisser la place au doute, puisque le colis commence à évoluer. Mais moi du début jusqu’à la fin j’étais restée sceptique nuit et jour, car je me disais que si elle ne m’a pas fourni la preuve par le bordereau d’envoi, c’est qu’il y a une raison. Et je n’avais pas tort à l’arrivée du colis, qui ne faisait que 4 kg, le paquet contenait 5 ipods factices ainsi 3iphones style apple factices et lourds pour cumuler 4 kg.
    C’était un leurre, et depuis silence radio.
    Durant un mois Alibaba m’a demandé preuves sur preuves, j’ai passé des nuits et des jours à cumuler, rédiger faire tout leur désirs et au dernier moment ils m’envoient un formulaire en chinois pour porter plainte contre eux, même le formulaire traduit et rempli par mes soins, je ne peux pas l’uploader.
    Par contre, le jour-même où j’ai su que je me suis faite escroquée, une autre filière d’Alibaba ETOCN qui regroupe : des fournisseurs triés sur le volet, Alipay, Taobao, des services lorsqu’on est membre moyennant 200$, des acheteurs sur place qu’il faut payer en supplément, l’acheminement des marchandises regroupées, un bureau avec une adresse à Shenzen, une certaine Lisa a pris automatiquement contact avec moi, et me vantait les mérites de ce service d’Alibaba qui se charge de tout, donc pas d’arnaques à ce niveau. Or une fois j’ai souscrit à ce service, je découvre que le moindre service est payant et que les 200$, n’ont servi qu’à avoir une adresse à Shenzen, quant aux fournisseurs d’élites, ce sont les mêmes racailles qui changent de noms et qui montent en grade selon les critères d’alibaba seul juge.
    Quant à utiliser Alipay c’est d’un compliqué et vicieux que j’aie abandonné au bout de plusieurs sans sommeil.
    Les acheteurs quant à eux, ils t’envoient un fichier excel, le même utilisé par les voleurs pour que tu dresses la liste des produits et les prix que tu comptes payer pour chaque article, chose que j’ai faite et ils ont trouvé que les prix annoncés sont trop bas et ils m’ont renvoyée aux calendres grecques.
    Le voleur de OKBUYTRADE, MR PING PING SHEN, à la demande de la banque Jade sud branch, s’il reconnaissait m’avoir délestée de : 3408, 50$, il le reconnaît, par contre il refuse catégoriquement de me rembourser sans aucune raison.
    La semaine dernière j’avais témoigné sur le forum alibaba scam, car quelqu’un s’apprêtait à faire des affaires avec eux et je n’ai pas hésité pour dire mon avis que Alibaba contribue à la fraude, ils m’ont censurée en m’envoyant un mail. Comment cela pourrait être autrement, non seulement ils ne les ont pas punis, ils n’ont pas été virés non plus et cerise sur le gâteau, ils ne sont pas dans la liste des fraudeurs d’alibaba et lorsque je fais des recherches dans leur liste OKBUYTRADE et SZVIETER sont honnêtes (0 Scam).
    Une dernière découverte qui m’avait échappée : L’Adresse de la Banque Jade of China Sud Branch et l’Adresse de OKBUYTRADE inscrite sur leur site sont les mêmes.
    Les 3 banques Sud Branch à XIAMEN, ne sont pas à cette adresse.
    Alors ma question est de savoir : COMMENT MR PING PING SHEN A-T-IL PU ENCAISSER CET ARGENT,
    AU SEIN D’UNE BANQUE QUI N’EXISTE PAS PHYSIQUEMENT ??? Et c’est le Statut quo total auprès d’alibaba, la banque of china Jade à Paris et également auprès de ma Banque qui est Boursorama .
    Personne ne me répond.
    Voilà mon témoignage et beaucoup de preuves à l’appui.
    L’adresse OKBUYTRADE
    ZIP Code : 361006

    L’Adresse de la Banque of China Jade
    Il s’agit de :
    Prénom/First name : PING PING
    Nom/Last name : SHEN
    ZIP Code : 361006
    Swift : BKCHCNBJ73C
    Compte bancaire/Benk’s account:

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  • Lu
    Luckman R Mar 09, 2010
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    Verified customer

    oh... gosh...
    I almost buy $250 IPHONE 3gs.. lucky me.. I don't do it..
    After seeing whats up here..
    I am very sure.. that's a huge mistake...

    But some of friend told me it's possible... how ever..
    He says.. Please
    have person in China and see the product directly...
    Do nOOT . DO NOT EVER buy through internet.!!!

    Have the money and have the goods.. some is really reall..
    REfurbished product they have... But still in a good condition.. and the price is about 25% below the reall product
    mostly electronic such as BlackBerry. Iphone.. But if the price is .. 30%.. then.. scam perhaps..

    Well seems complicated for me so.. I don't do it ..

    Luckman from Indonesia

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  • Hg
    h gonzalez Mar 09, 2010

    Since last november I made contact with Guangdong Jiangmen City Yetong Electric Vehicles Company Limited, through a supposed international executive (it was shown on their website as such) named Samuel Xia, our fist contact was via I enclose the receipt from the bank to which this Samuel told me to deposit for 3 electric vehicles.

    After two weeks of having made the deposit, the supplier, represented by Yunjin Guan, says the person that was our contact (Samuel Xia) does not work on the company since a while ago, and that the account info he gave us was not theirs, but he actually send us an email from the very same email account, ( [email protected]) saying he didnt review that email often because he had no time!!!even it was posted on their website as their international contact. He changed it after all my problem.

    I need help. We made the transfer 2 weeks go for $7853 usdlls, which were the savings of our lives.

    I cant believe Guan says the person has not been working with them since a while ago, yet his name and mobile phone were listed on the website, on the contact us section, it said clearly Samuel Xia international executive, mobile [protected]

    We started negotiations via email since november last year, our first contact with this company was via alibaba, and from there they reached us through the same email account, [email protected]
    and since then they didnt checked the email or change it or cancelled it. Until now that we made the transfer. It seems quite illogical to me.

    We acced to make the transaction since the company is in their 2nd year gold supplier member in

    If he stopped working with them WHY DIDNT THEM :

    1) post and add in alibaba and their website
    2) erase his name and contact info from the website
    3) cancel the email they showed on their website if this person was still in use of it, or change the password, anything

    To me it feels like the supplier's fault, by all that am enlisting on top.

    After Yunjin Guan knew about the scam, I asked him for help since I am pennyless now and cant go to China, and told him it seemed to me he had ALL responisbility. The answer he gave is that he is very busy all the time, so he never had time to change the contact info (until now) and that he doesnt have time to check all their employees´s info. I asked him for help to contact this person, and he said he wasnt local. He couldnt reach him. He is busy. And obviously he is not responding as in merchandise, since the money, he says, never made it to the company.

    I really need help.

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  • Cu
    customer Mar 08, 2010

    The person selling Replica Handbags is San Ming Zhou. He calls himself Sam.
    He took $645.00 from me in December and never Delivered my goods.
    He told me he needed $110.00 for shipping of goods and did not send that either
    He kept all of the Money.

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  • Vi
    VitaliyKVS Feb 27, 2010

    Has found base of scam which as administrators speak will be constantly updated and for this purpose they use the methods! The base can be found in the first message

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  • Ju
    justice seeker Feb 21, 2010

    After conversing with sales persons from Shanghai Wu Yue Trading Co., Ltd. on Alibaba Trade Manager, I had my bank wire $500 USD to their "bank representative" listed on their website for a Samsung UN55B8500 television. I was assured by Gang Wu, Mrs Andy, Mrs Lin, Leon Wang, and Mr Leon (all of whom stated they are employees of Shanghai Wu Yue Trading Co., Ltd.) that my television would arrive shortly. When a package finally did arrive, it contained a pair of sneakers! "Mrs Andy" explained that there was a mistake with the "shipping company" and she would immediately send me another television. The tracking number she gave me for the second shipment was delivered somewhere in Texas (I live in PA.) I have never received the television I paid for nor the refund I demanded. None of the formerly "friendly" sales people will now return my emails or messages. Clearly this operation is a fraud and the thieves associated with Shanghai Wu Yue Trading Co., Ltd. should be avoided at all costs so they cannot rob any other honest people. These people belong in prison, not on! The authorities need to prosecute these criminals.

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  • Ti
    ticotimer Feb 06, 2010

    Steps of fraud on

    names used by company for fraud/scam are: [email protected] / [email protected] / MrsAndy / Shanghai Wu Yue Trading Co., Ltd.
    scammer, scam, robbery, fraudster, fraud, scheme, swindle, hoax, deceipt, swindler, deception, theft, cellphones scam, cell scam, chinese scammer, chinese scam, alibaba scam

    1. Companyresponded to my inquiries about cellphones.
    2. Company sent me a price list and quote
    3. Company requested i send funds via western union to:

    Payment: Western Union
    Address: Putian City, Fujian Province, China
    zip code: 351100
    First Name: Xian Yao Zheng
    Last Name: Zheng
    Xian Yao Zheng

    This information matched the information on their "gold rated site"

    4. they sent me a fake tracking number
    5. I complained, they sent me another fake tracking number
    6. I complained, they sent me an email saying i would have my order in 24 hours
    7. I asked for tracking information - they stopped responding alltogether and have not responded since.

    Company Website:
    MSN:[email protected]
    [email protected];
    [email protected]
    Xian Yao Zheng
    [email protected] / MrsAndy / Shanghai Wu Yue Trading Co., Ltd.

    scammer, scam, robbery, fraudster, fraud, scheme, swindle, hoax, deceipt, swindler, deception, theft, cellphones scam, cell scam, chinese scammer, chinese scam, alibaba scam,

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  • Ek
    ekoloda Dec 25, 2009

    Alibaba is an absolute SCAM. I have tried to purchase Canon SLR cameras from 3 different supplies from China and have been scammed 3 times and lost tons of money.
    I have used Trade Manager and have history of conversations with suppliers, I have their company registration papers (in Chinese, but I even translated it), I have pictures of cameras they e-mailed me... BUT now I will show you how this SCAM works.

    Seller provides you with all the proof you need to proceed with payment and the only way they accept payment is via Money Gram or Bank Transfer. You send money and then wait for a week, as seller tells you that shipment must be prepared!!! Then they give you a wrong tracking # by DHL... Then they give you a correct tracking # by EMS... and EMS takes another 10-12 days to get to you. It's all done to drag this as long as possible, so they can scam more people before Alibaba will de-activate their account.

    When you receive a box by EMS from "NO Address", just Shanghai, China and you open it... you get couple of cheap chinese made video cameras or some chinese made phones... You complain, you scream...but you have accepted the package.

    So that's how it works. I have been scammed twice by exactly the same scenario, to the dot.

    Here is another trick they make. Seller accepts payment via Paypal or Credit card, but tells you that a shipping mistake was made and instead of one they sent you four cameras. Seller demands you to pay the rest of the amount by Western Union or they won't release a tracking # to you... DA... you don't need a tracking #, as no shipment has been sent.

    Alibaba doesn't do anything about it. They say that they have removed seller's account, but seller is still listed at

    Guys, it's all about money Chinese companies scam and Alibaba receives as a membership fee.

    Stay away from this site. If you need any proof of these scams - e-mail me and I will send you pictures, transactions, etc.

    Evgeny [email protected]

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  • Sc
    scot4jds Dec 11, 2009 is a Brooklyn, NY. based company under the name of Rachel Outlet Store. They have multiple names and websites doing this wholesale business scam. Just check the BBB before sending any money.

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  • Ju
    justonemore Nov 22, 2009

    Me too. I sent 2, 000 USD to (Beauty equipments).
    I sent that amount through Western Union after 1 or 2 months chatting and sharing information regarding the goods with [email protected] They disappeared immediately after they received the money.

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    Englishplaytime Oct 29, 2009

    Yes, Tuoki Elec Tek robbed us out of more than a 1000 dollars. Alibaba did nothing after I sent in the proof of payment, They protect their sellers first, They don't care about customers at all and Tuoki Elec Tek is actually legal in China! Beware they will rob you!

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    Kenneth05 Oct 16, 2009

    I would be interested in learning how many individuals have been scammed by companyies with Alibaba Gold seals. Please send me an e-mail.


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    cynate1223 Sep 19, 2009

    Totally agree coz I am victim too. How do we file a formal complaint to stop Alibaba from scamming more people?

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    cynate1223 Sep 19, 2009

    So how do buyers file a formal complaint to get their money? I am also a victim and I would like to know how.

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