PROSCOUT review: PROSCOUT 187

You are completely wrong about Prosout being a scam. I have also met the model they had there once. She use to be on extream home makeover, so I really doubt she would be involved with a scam. I have attended a few times and have gotten a callback two different times. I however had braces at the time and was two inches too short but I was a freshmen in high school and still growing. So the agent gave me her card and said email her later because I was perfect for what she needed. So it is up to you to keep up with the agents because it is not their job to contact you when you are not signed with them. Even still if you do sign with them they have a extremely busy life and they are not going to baby you. It is a very aggressive industry so you have to be aggressive cause you are just another person out of tons who want to be in the industry. Yes it makes perfect since that you do have to pay. Think they have to pay the agents to come there and then they also have rent a very large room to hold it in. Which is always at one of the nicest places so it is going to be expensive for them. Also don't stay at the hotel "where the agents stay" cause yes it will be expensive. You really won't see the agents cause they fly in late and they will more than likely be working in their rooms. As for the agents being rude they are just being real. If you can't handle them at Proscout then you won't be able to handle the industry. Just be friendly and don't let them get to because they also may be testing you. I have always enjoyed each time that I have gone and I plan on going again.

You are completely wrong about Prosout being a scam. I have also met the model they had there once. She use to be on extream home makeover, so I really doubt she would be involved with a scam. I have attended a few times and have gotten a callback two different times. I however had braces at the time and was two inches too short but I was a freshmen in high school and still growing. So the agent gave me her card and said email her later because I was perfect for what she needed. So it is up to you to keep up with the agents because it is not their job to contact you when you are not signed with them. Even still if you do sign with them they have a extremely busy life and they are not going to baby you. It is a very aggressive industry so you have to be aggressive cause you are just another person out of tons who want to be in the industry. Yes it makes perfect since that you do have to pay. Think they have to pay the agents to come there and then they also have rent a very large room to hold it in. Which is always at one of the nicest places so it is going to be expensive for them. Also don't stay at the hotel "where the agents stay" cause yes it will be expensive. You really won't see the agents cause they fly in late and they will more than likely be working in their rooms. As for the agents being rude they are just being real. If you can't handle them at Proscout then you won't be able to handle the industry. Just be friendly and don't let them get to because they also may be testing you. I have always enjoyed each time that I have gone and I plan on going again.

Wow, ok so I went to the Proscout event. I only had two callbacks and I was terrible sick that weekend, but since yesterday, I was signed. I had to follow up, I didn't sleep out of nervousness. But to be honest, it was all worth it. There were so many people there, rangeing from 3 years old to 30 probably. You just have to have it, impress them, and hope for the best. DO your best. I get my comp cards done and start my career hopefully. I mean, you don't become a celebrity or top actor right off the bat. You work for it, which is what Proscout is doing. It gives you the opportunity to start from the bottom, for you to have a foot in the door.
I don't know why there are so many terrible comments about Proscout, maybe because you didn't receive a callback, but I can assure you that they help in so many ways. I don't the money to travel all over the US to audition, find an agent, stay in hotels etc. That's why Proscout is so convienient because they come to us. Yeah, the agents are paid to come. Understandable. And you're not paying the agents to work for you yet, you're paying for them to come and listen to you. To fly from their work, on their time, to come and watch you. So it's up to you, to make it worth their while. You don't have to stay in the same hotel (use Priceline...really :)). I met some people there my age who stayed at a 30 dollar a night hotel down the road from the hotel in Chicago where Proscout was hosted.
It's not a scam. Yes, it's expensive but think about how much money would have to pay to fly yourself around, stay in hotels, have doors shut in your face etc. This is one chance, so do it right. Prepare and impress them. If not picked, try again. I know, it's a lot of money, but honestly, it helps. As I said, as of yesterday I was signed with an agency. I wouldn't never had the opportunity without Proscout.

proscout is not a scam and thats all i have to say...

let me also add, I have been contacted by agencies and agents, but I wanted to be wise and build a portfolio and not be in any contract when I went to NYC. ...But I'm also a very determined girl.

Okay, first off, I am a working model and I am soooo tired of you stage moms that don't know anything about the business, or at least not enough to be "street smart". If no agent called you back, it's not because something is a SCAM, it's because they DIDN'T LIKE WHAT THEY SAW. That's just a given in this industry. No response= no interest. Duh.

Secondly, I was given the link to Proscouts by a friend, as I am going to NY to visit all of the major agencies myself, and my $50 bus ticket + hotels (haven't booked yet) is definitely going to be cheaper than the $800 that this thing is. I'm obviously not going.

I've been doing my homework, and I've been freelancing for only a few months and I have a complete portfolio as well as jobs with MAC Cosmetics, fashion weeks, etc etc. I'm at the point where modeling is paying my bills. I'm in the DC area, so I'm about to plateau. I will now step into the big agencies- full portfolio in hand- and do it the "hard" way, which I've worked countless hours to get towards. I've loved every second of it- the parties, the art, the portrayal of different characters. The connections, the hard work, the glamor. I've met tons of industry professionals and gotten that experience that one needs to be on the entry level of the bigger agencies--and I haven't paid one SINGLE dime.

My point? You need to have a body of work behind you, you need to show the initiative of sending in your submissions, showing up to the open calls, sending all the different people your information. There is NO easy way to the top-- this Proscout nonsense, while giving a select few a good chance, will only run your wallet and rob you of that invaluable experience of doing it YOURSELF.

The cost of this Proscouts, making you believe you have a chance when really, you have no idea how to USE that chance, to submit you to agencies:
$800, plus what ever hotels/food, plus the "photographers" that you are forced to use for a portfolio, and if you're really not that smart, "big name" classes to run you hundreds or thousands for what you can get PAID to do. Though, I will say, if you have started in the industry and have a base of talent and a portfolio, and $800 to spend, you may want to try. Though, none of the names listed on their site actually rang a bell.

The price of having a complete portfolio, experience, and knowledge of the business to submit to agencies: $0, and the $50 bust ticket to go to NY, plus hotels/food. And a few months of EXTREMELY hard work, but a hell of a lot to show for it. Actually, I've made thousands in this process as well.

You choose.

Hi Everyone.
Here is the bottom line concerning ProScout. You are not paying 800 to get discovered. You are paying 800 for the opportunity to display what you have to offer the world of acting, modeling etc., in front of 30 plus top agents.
Yes, there are several agencies there that are not world wide, or well-known. This is because alot of these agencies are exclusive and very selective. And that is not to mislead you and say that there are agencies there that will callback anyone.
They tell you that looks are not everything. And they are not. There was a wide variety of everything both male and female that recieved call backs. Here is the thing, you, your daughter, your son, whomever is considering attending, dont be naive. Understand that ther is gonna be 1000 people there, all gunning for the same thing you are. It is your chance to show what you got. And trust me, prepare. Preperation is key. IF you are acting, KNOW your monolouge. IF you are modeling, make sure you have pictures that repressent your versatility. PLEASE dont be like this poster, he or she, went to and Invitational, wasnt prepared and got blown out. It is easy to do.
Personality, Confidence and Persistence. Three words you need to learn. Remember as I said before, there are 1000 other people they are looking at, you need to stand out.
Also, keep in mind modeling and acting requirements, although the baseline characteristics remain the same, the need for right now, changes monthly, weekly, even daily. Meaning, you might have what they are looking for, or you might not.
A word of advice is be DIVERSE. Dont go with one streamline pursuit. I went originally for just Commercial Print modeling. During the course i adapted, learned a monolouge, and got call backs based on my monolouge performance. It aided me in getting noticed in the agents eyes.
You have to want it, and every agent there can tell if you do or dont in a second.
There are all legit agents there, huge names, huge moels, actors, acting coaches. People have made a mark in history in this business. The staff of ProScout genuinely cares for you, helps you, and does there best to prepare you for that second day. But as they tell you there, most people dont listen, dont take their advice, and it shows the next day.
Bottom line, if you have a daughter or son, or it is you that got invited, go. But only go if you really want it. Otherwise it will be as waste. You will meet awesome people, learn amazing things, and get exactly what they promise you, a chance.
In closing, remember, most that attend, love the idea of being found or discovered, a good amount go prepared, and then the smallest amount of people who attend WANT to be discoverd, want to be found. If you go, be that small percent. And you will be sitting in the room in the end with 3 agencies calling you back like I was.

Just attended a PS interview in Bend, Oregon for the fun of it. DEFINITELY A SCAM! Some observations:

* The radio ad was very misleading ...stating that scouts from Nickelodean, Warner Brothers, Disney and Ford Modeling would be there -- NOT true!
* They don't disclose the ProScout name in their radio ad. If they did, I believe people would search the internet, see all the complaints against them, and no one would show up. I researched the internet based on key workds from the radio ad and and nothing came up. That should've been a red flag. If anything, I knew this would be a good learning experience for my 2 daughters ... a lesson on how you can't believe everything you hear, and how to avoid being scammed.
* They're professionals alright ... professional scam artists. At the interview, they disclose up front that if you're "chosen" then it will cost $800 to attend a seminar where you will meet agents from Nickelodean, Warner Brothers, etc. I believe they intentionally do this to make themselves SOUND legitimate. No legitimate agency takes your money to meet scouts. Legitmate agencies don't need a middleman like PS to find talent. You can do that directly with agencies (like Ford modeling) by going directly to their website.

My personal opinion: PS scouts appeal to those who don't think they have a shot at stardom/modeling/acting. PS makes it appear that they "see something special" in you. This makes the person feel good about him/her self and they're likely to fork over $800 to see how far they can go. Don't let PS fool you. You don't need a PS scam artist to tell you how wonderful, beautiful and talented you are ... then take $800 away from you for nothing in return.

Remember ... if they ask you for money, run (don't walk) away! YOU should be the one getting paid. I spent one precious hour of my time at this thing, but at least I had the company of my friends (and their kids) -- and we all got a good laugh from it.

i got accepted into 3 agencies and have called them several times to get info and guess what no calls back to me..hmmm

Shailea15 I was just wondering if you say it's not a scam did you get picked? Is there anyone on this page that had a call back and made some money for there talent? I am invited to go and I am just not sure I already paid half and I am upset that they say there is no refund why is that?

After reading all these comments I honestly don't know what to believe. Can anyone actually verify any of these stories?

Anyways, I am a 12 year old girl and I attended a ProScout interview the other day. I got asked to attend the "invitational/callback" in Chicago this December. At first, it seemed like an amazing opportunity, the chance to perform in front of 40 agencies. My mom was skeptical though, saying we should check what the success rate was. On my form I put down that I was interested in both modeling and acting, however I am MUCH more interested in acting. Some people said that ProScout focuses more on modeling, can you explain? I am very short for my age, 4' 9", but I was under the impression being short was better for acting? Maybe not. Someone said if you are under 5' 5" do not expect to get a gig unless you are super cute and super thin. I don't think I'm gorgeous, however I do think I'm very cute (not to sound pompous) and have been told so many times. I'm not a skinny mini, however I am very light, probably around 74 pounds, and pretty thin. I have been in some plays, gone to a (sleepaway) theater camp this summer, and taken an acting class. What do you think my chances of getting a gig/callback are? Thanks

i went about 3 years ago my daughter was choosen she had pictures taken by their people then rite after was told that the event was canceled and would be rescheduled then never heared from them again i called and called and left many messages with no return call from them then after awhile their phones would say that you couldnt leave messages cause the mailbox was full. I'm sure it eas from everyone calling since it was all a scam..

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention more with regards to the bait-and-switch tactics of ProScout. Please excuse me if I seem like a troll but I am just very passionate about consumer advocacy and protecting against predatory/unethical businesses.

The simple fact of the matter is that ProScout makes it seem like "all you have to do" is go to the invitational and they do the rest. What is "the rest"? As many have discovered, the $800 or so you pay doesn't include much at all. They fail to provide any hard documentation detailing what you get for the money as well.

I just read the comments by the "plus size model" and my heart goes out to you. That's really crappy of them to take your money and make promises they have no intentions to deliver on. I'm sure some people make it with ProScout but it's such a low number that it's almost not worth it. About 1 out of every [protected] people "make it", it seems. They have to uphold their legitimacy somehow, after all!

Again and again, the common complaint that resounds with me is the matter of this fee for the invitational. What does it cover? Charging for guests and "optional" workshops is obscene, especially for event which is mostly standing space.. It's not like you have to reserve the space.

Oh, wait, I forgot... We must fly down the agents, agents that already trust ProScout and "love" coming to the events. Oh, and they get a "nominal payment" as an incentive but they're "really there to find talent". Come on now.. That would mean the agents make money at all angles. Bogus.

Yes, let me pay for people to come see me perform and hopefully give me the opportunity to give THEM part of my paycheck because they found me a gig that I probably could have found myself had I just Googled it or brown-nosed a bit myself. Ah, that IS worth the money! Heck, I want to work in the model/acting business now. Does anyone realize how flawed this logic is or is it just me?

Please excuse my caustic glibness but I'd say everyone commenting against ProScout, rather than in favor of, is certainly making more valid points. ProScout may not be a full-blown scam but it might as well be! It certainly seems like a waste of time for most. Pay to get slapped in the face and belittled.. Sounds like masochism to me!

"There are no pictures to buy, no classes to take. Just come meet our scouts, and we'll do the rest."

"AWESOME! Sign me up for ten invitational passes. Do you have any scouts that specialize in hand models? I have VERY nice hands. Actually, I'd like to speak with Mr. Marcus directly, please. What, he's not available? What a surprise."

Yup.. ProScout is the Amway of their industry, whatever that is supposed to be!

I also would like to comment on the whole "you don't have what it takes" crap. It's just a cop-out ProScout uses to, again, dodge accountability. It's quite interesting how I know people that have made it in the modeling and acting business quite fine, even after being rejected by ProScout and other self-appointed experts.

People, spend your money how you'd like. If you want to meet other aspiring actors/models and go to some over-priced workshops, ProScout is definitely great. If you don't mind making others rich on a very slim chance that you MIGHT get a gig, maybe two, go for ProScout. Now, if you are truly committed and want to INVEST your money the right way, do the legwork yourself.

ProScout is the equivalent of a headhunter at a lowly recruiting firm. They'll do some "screening" to make the candidates left feel like they have a real chance, then they'll send them all off for the kill. Only 1 out of 100 people get placed like this, if you're lucky. ProScout has even worse success rates.

Like some others pointed out here, why is it that the ProScout events focus on smaller, more gullible markets? I'll tell you why: anyone that lives in NYC or LA knows where to go to get connected. It takes hard work, yes, but it's not as impossible as they make it out to be. I've had plenty of friends that moved to NYC or LA on a whim. They simply did the following:

- Joined mailing lists for aspiring actors and models.
- Met with local people that "made it" and got their sales-pitch-free success stories.
- Studied under successful actors and models.
- Joined marketing companies and street teams to run promos, stunts, and campaigns that would help them build up contacts, gain more experience, and get exposure.
- Launched their own web site and/or blog to gain more exposure.
- Joined social networking sites such as LinkedIn to make connections with key people.

There are tons of things you can do to get into the entertainment business but it takes persistence. ProScout thrives on people that want quick fixes or have just lost hope. PS is like a ray of light in a very, very dark world.

Now, I'm not here to point you in the direction of any talent agency, scouting service, photographer, or any crap. I'm only here to protect other consumers like myself by educating you. If you offer anyone money for a service, make sure they are ready to provide hard evidence, third-party validation, solid proof of a successful track record, and guarantees that they can actually back up and follow through with.

Believe me, I understand those of us honest people in the service business have a tough job as it is. We don't deal with tangibles so driving the value to our clients is tough, but there is a right way to do things and a wrong way. ProScout is a case study in how to do things all the wrong ways in business.

You know what else really grinds my gears as I go through these comments?

It all comes down to the youth. ProScout is crushing some of the youth out there rather than building up their confidence. Stop dangling the metaphorical carrot in front of people, folks. We parents have enough to deal with as it is without knuckleheads coming in and stirring the proverbial poo around.

I believe that everyone is capable of anything in life. So what if only .0001% of the world's population makes it big in modeling and acting. The same could be said about other fields too. Don't be ridiculous now. The honest-to-goodness truth is that some people just don't want it badly enough and, when they realize there is real work involved (or they find out how ugly the entertainment industry can be as a whole), they decide it's not what they really wanted.

Sure, some people are just looking for a new meal ticket, I agree, but there are very great talents out there that get shot down in ALL lines of work because they go to supposed experts that shoot them down because, for whatever reason, they feel that they know everything. It's this sort of arrogance that really makes me laugh. No one can possibly know everything, which is why there will always be some sucker that will be swayed by someone that knows how to hit all the right nerves and say all the right things. ProScout is good at that.

Look at the proponents of ProScout. A good portion of them are condescending snobs. I admit that, by going to these events, there are certainly many moms pushing their kids to do the whole thing, simply because most parents is unrealistic with how they assess their children, especially mothers. There's no such thing as an ugly baby, right? I get that logic and it's true a lot of the time, but not ALL the time. That's just another cop-out.

The reason why not everyone works in the line of work that ProScout is trying to sell is because there are plenty of other viable, lucrative career opportunities out there. It's true: this business is not for everyone and, if you ask me, you can keep it. I know plenty of "good-looking, well-rounded, smart people" that are doing quite well without getting involved with superficial, pompous jerks like the ones that are shooting down those that have very reasonable complaints with regards to ProScout and similar companies.

I'd hate to tell some of you this but you can't just stick a label on people or generalize, just to discredit their argument. Valid points are valid points. ProScout's business model needs serious scrutiny.

Like I said, you can get much better success rates investing less money and doing the right things. Sure, it may take more time but, if you really want to make a career out of it, it's the only way to do it. Plenty of companies offer auditions and open casting calls, which are great ways to build up your portfolio/resume. Surely, you'll find plenty of folks trying to sell you dreams, only to pull the 'ol bait-and-switch on you.

Which reminds me, another thing I truly enjoyed by attending the ProScout open calls was how they had all this pep-rally-esque rhetoric to open up. Once they weeded out those that they didn't feel "had what it takes", they made it seem like everyone left was part of an elite club. Once everyone started to foam at the mouth, they throw the dollar signs your way but you realize that the dollar signs are coming OUT of your pocket, not in. They spoke very little about how the industry is, how to prepare properly, what kind of pay checks to expect, and the like.

What was even more interesting is how the web site and open call presentation alike fail to provide real testimonials. Where are the recognizable faces? Oh, sure, there are some photos and name droppings here and there.. yet you don't see anyone speaking in person or on video, sharing what their experience with ProScout was. Sure, people can be paid to do that sort of thing but it'd be nice to have some real third-party validation and success stories, aside from the 1% that get one or two gigs then return to life as usual, or invest more money into PS crap.

The following links make me laugh too (if you look close enough, you'll see what I mean):

http://www.proscout.com/index.cfm/show_interview-locations
http://www.proscout.com/index.cfm/show_interview-process

It all reminds me of "business opportunity" meetings that sell "the dream" to those less fortunate (or those that feel they simply ran out of options). Well over a decade ago, pryamid schemes were very prominent and they worked because they helped just enough people to be able to say "Hey, we're delivering what we promise.. but some people just are not cut out for our business!" Meanwhile, all the "independent business owners" are forking out cash to buy branded merchandise, self-help systems, and seminar/workshop passes, only to make the company more rich. Even many of today's MLM/Network Marketing businesses tread that thin line between scam and legitimate business.

Truly, this is a scary world. For those of you that got burned by ProScout, keep your heads up. Karma will serve justice in due time. Ignore all these biased individuals that are trying to generalize, ostracize, and berate you. Do not let go of your dreams and just let these bad experiences build up your character and strength further!

You may also find it interesting to note that the current data the BBB has for ProScout does not match what they are distributing at their events:

14500 N. Northsight Blvd. #233
Scottsdale, AZ 85260

-VS-

15333 N. Pima Rd, St 275
Scottsdale, AZ 85260

The inconsistencies continue. How can any conscientious consumer NOT be worried when there are so many red flags just jumping out at you? It's not fair to assume that people that "failed" with ProScout just aren't cut out for it. Maybe ProScout doesn't know how to gauge potential properly. Maybe, just maybe, they are just trying to fill up seats to pad their paychecks.

Really, if I didn't have a conscience, I'd adopt a similar business model since no one seems to be stepping in to regulate these types of companies better. Sadly, this is not the first company, nor will it be the last, to get good ratings at http://bbb.org and deliver crap service and/or product. So much for a system of checks and balances! ;o)

Allow me to play devil's advocate here, if you will...

I've seen plenty of good points made by both sides of this argument here and on [redacted]. Naturally, everyone will have their own bias. My personal bias here is that I've seen people get ripped by ProScout and similar companies. I've also been fortunate to stop people before they made their non-refundable deposit.

Speaking of the non-refundable deposit, that should be a giant red flag right there. The rates are subject to change but, in general, you're looking at a total price of $795 to attend the "ProScout Invitational" and be part of a "once in a lifetime" opportunity. Since most of the open calls are brilliantly held just a month or two before the big event, most folks opt to make the deposit of $295. The little "green form" they provide says very clearly "I understand that ALL fees are non-refundable after ProScout's receipt of this form; however unused fees may be applied to a future ProScout Event for a period of (12) months." Really?

Now, as an industry veteran in the fields of sales & marketing, consulting, and similar lines of work, I can tell you that every other convention, seminar, or similar business event I have ever been to would charge an early registration fee or offer entrance at the door, which would naturally be at a higher premium. If you changed your mind at the last minute, any reputable company would at least refund most of your money. That's how it works with airlines, legitimate conventions, and things of the sort.

To say that you only have 12 months to use the remaining balance for something that supposedly only happens "once a year" is essentially telling you that you'll never get your money back. Where's the satisfaction guarantee? Heck, where is there ANY guarantee? ProScout has created a brilliant business model where the overhead is minimal, they can be as hands-off as possible, they provide little or no customer service, and nothing is promised. They so boldly tell you at their open calls that no one is guaranteed a gig after going to the invitational, let alone any steady work or, heck, even a callback.

So, what ARE you paying for? Let's see... ProScout clearly indicates that they are not an employment or talent agency so, right away, you know they are merely a facilitator, at best. Truly, ProScout is an agent of the agent of the agent. It reminds me of six degrees of Kevin Bacon. Yes, I too can say I know a movie star but how far do I have to dig before I finally get in touch with a real mover-and-shaker in the industry? For that, you're better off investing your money into photos, classes, workshops, books, and other more worthwhile items from reputable companies with proven track records.

ProScout's business revolves solely around the invitational/convention. That's where theytheir "agents" try to peddle their crap to you. It's where they make their money. Where does it go? Is it reinvested in the business of helping their aspiring talents? Certainly not. They should offer something more tangible than a lofty promise of getting possible exposure. Workshops and literature should be provided to all attendants, along with an itinerary describing all the company representatives that will be present as well as keynote presentations and included benefits. The ProScout rep recently told someone close to me that they do not even offer snacks at the event. Again, really? I scoff at the whole arrangement.

Let's do some math. At nearly $800 per attendant, plus $65 per guest (even if you're a minor 13 years or older whose parent really MUST be with you), you're looking at around $900 earned per guest. Assuming the average attendant buys into the "value-added" services, that's a minimum of $1000 brought in by each attendant. If you have a convention with at least 500 attendants,
you're talking about $450, 000 raised for a mere two-day event that, at best, can be seen as an over-priced party or social mixer.

As a business owner, I understand that there are operational costs to cover but the money that ProScout brings in is almost pure profit. It'd only make sense that they pay the industry representatives to show up because, certainly, they're not investing in the talents themselves. It's a shame, really. This is a predatory company that thrives off people with dreams of grandure and a lack of information.

The real kicker is that we parents want the best for our children. Sometimes we want to entertain the dreams of our kids, even when we know that they are not nearly prepared enough and, more than likely, it'll be a passing phase. Far be it for any of us to be wet towels with our reality checks and horror stories, right? So, when our children get excited about this really great ad on the radio about talent scouts in the area, we have no choice but to go, right? In that manner, ProScout relinquishes any accountability and leaves the jaded consumer to be the bad guys and "crazies" because, after all, the parents are the ones forking out the cash and throwing caution to the wind, not them. I've been at these events just to check them out and a majority of the attendants are really young, naive folks. I think that cements that point.

Of course, event space can be expensive too but let's just look at the Hyatt Regency Atlanta. It's a venue that is highly-regarded and offers tons of event space (180, 000 square feet I believe). I don't work in the hospitality business nor do I pretend to be an expert in the area but I know that not even half of the dues collected from ProScout attendants is going towards the event space. Again, where does this money go?

Clearly, most of this money is going towards kickbacks and commissions. The fact that most of the field staff for ProScout works on a part-time basis as they admit themselves should tell you something. Their office hours at the Arizona headquarters are quite limited too so, again, I ask: where does all this money go? Furthermore, if the agencies they work with trust them so much, why would they have to get paid to show up? Agents pay the talent, not the other way around, because they get paid by the client. It's a simple as that. The only thing you should be paying for in the business are things that make solid guarantees and provide tangibles, not just some very nice speeches and presentations.

The guys at ProScout certainly are professionals.. at brainwashing. They use subtle strong-arm sales tactics that have been around since door-to-door hairbrush salesmen! My favorite tactic PS employs is the time-old take-away. This is where you are presented with something seemingly "too good to be true" and then, when you start to get a little inkling of doubt, they take it away from you and say stuff like...

- You know, come to think of it, this may not be for you.
- This isn't for everyone. Only a select few will truly make it.
- This is for serious people only. Don't waste our time or your own if you're not going to commit.

...And the list goes on. It's a great way to put the burden of responsibility on the consumer. This is partly why there aren't many formal complaints against ProScout: most people feel they were the ones that dropped the ball, lacked the "right stuff", or "didn't try hard enough". These people will attend multiple conventions and likely buy into the "discounted" rate (which, apparently, is hundreds of dollars cheaper for returning prospects). Folks like that want to taste success so badly or simply do not want to admit defeat so they rationalize the whole experience and create a great deal of denial for themselves.

Ultimately, ProScout gets away clean. What's worse is that the fine print will get you so, even if you complain to the BBB and other consumer advocacy, they can can pass the buck because no laws were broken. That would explain why the BBB says this business has been around for 10 years and, in spite all the complaints, maintain an A+ rating. The Better Business Bureau has become pretty worthless. Companies can pretty much scrub their records clean if they "resolve" the issues in a timely fashion (or shut up people), which basically means they can just respond with some packaged answer or have someone "administratively close" an open claim.

In conclusion, the issue here is not whether or not this business is a scam. ProScout is unequivocally unethical and poorly managed. They do a poor job in managing expectations and providing good customer service. Customers should not feel trapped or unsure when working with any company, especially if the money you fork out can go into more important things like car maintenance, home repairs, family functions, helping charitable causes, and the like. Quite honestly, these types of companies disgust me and that is why I blog about them on WordPress.

It's a fake I tell you. The man that was going to interview me and my neice said that they weren't going to judge a person of how they look or how short tall and thick you are. If you really have the heart to act and model he was going to give us a photoshop and invite us over to this one place thing. After all those crap he said me and my neice went up. He asked me how old I was I said 17 and my neice said she was 11. He asked if I ever act or model before. I said yes Acting for four years since freshman year and now a senior and really do have a passion to act but never model before. So he just looked at my neice and ask her what about you WOW! looking really pretty there how old are you 13 he mispoken the age. My neice said no 12 and then he started at my neice saying well your a little too short come next year when your taller but your really pretty. WTF You dumb [censor] an 8th grade female asian (Hmong) being 5'4 is short? You are just a dick. He told us to come back next year so we just left such a waste of 3 hours in our life. Oh by the way I am 6'2

i know someone who worked at proscout on the phones. talking to potential customers and doing the call backs ect... The people who think this is a scam just don't get it. This place is not an agency, agents get paid by commission. Proscout has to make their money somewhere too and the money it cost to attend one of their events is used to bring the agents to you. Did you pay $800 and get nothing out of it? that's not Proscout's fault. If 500-1000 people attend one of their events and only 10 get interviewed, why do you think that is? it's probably because you (along with the majority of the world) don't have what it takes to be a model or actor. if 500-1000 people had what it takes don't you think every person in the world would be acting and modeling? i would love for all of these people claiming it to be a scam to post a picture of themselves. Most of the people that call are ghetto moms trying make their daughter, Laquantifa, famous. and no mother can stand to think their daughter isn't cute or good-looking so it must just be a scam, right? 60%-80% of the people who call in and go to these things are just looking for their free ticket out of the food stamp line and have no idea how stuff really works. if you're smart, good-looking, well rounded and have common sense then Proscout and their Agents will like you and the $800 would have been more than worth it. but if you don't get chosen that's a you problem and it's time for stage-mom to start finding another meal ticket.

by all means- fly to new york, LA, doesn't matter, and go knock on an agencies door. all the luck to you. but if everyone were cut out to make it in that business, wouldn't everyone be doing it? 0.0001 percent of the world works in the entertainment industry. im shocked they even find 10 people out of 500 to interview.

i would also encourage people to really look at a lot of the complaints floating around the internet saying it's a scam only too turn around and point you to a different scouting agency. competition much?

My daughter was picked to attend the invitational in Dallas last October but after much research we decided that the money we would have spent could go towards other things. Ive learned places like John Casablanca and venues like Proscout is a SCAM. Im not on here to try to convince YOU that they are. I am simply offering insight into my experience with Proscout. I received emails weekly from a PS rep once the date for the invitational was approaching. In these emails the rep was pretty close to badgering me for the money at one point then at other times willing to ' make arrangements for payment.' I am confident in my daughters modeling ability but she will be discovered the legitimate way; go sees. It sounds like there are some individuals on here with low self esteem and they need validating from us the public, that PS chose them because they have 'it'. People like that need theraphy not Proscout.

Well I think I'm going to go to the convention...hey if it'd a scam then I'm sure ill be posting derogatory things as well...but you never know something for sure until you do it yourself
..hey if I don't get picked for a call back ill probably cry but ill get over it..life is full of rejections so this wouldn't be any different...I think I'm hottest ill let you be the judge check me out via Facebook at BrandonimperfectKyle or twitter @Brandonfnkyle...

Wow I'm still lost Tyra Banks said if you have to pay money for something then its not legit its a scam...I'm trying to get in touch with her an some other agents an photographers I know an get there feedback about P.S.

Wow I don't know what to believe..
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I just got done at proscout in seattle and it is a huge scam! They make a half a million just when you register your child, , , oh and don't forget the money you have to pay for the guest. After it's done and u get callbacks only about 20 people get called back and the u have to do a interview the most that have made it through the end is 3 to 5 people. And all the agents pick the same number over and over again. It is a scam.

To everyone who is questioning wether or not Proscout is the right way to go: it is! I went to the phoenix event in July/august and it is the best thing I have ever done in my life. I got 8 call backs, all from top agencies, and sparked some intrest from chambers Stevens a renown acting coach In LA. I signed with JJ Cortez, the #1 modeling manager in America a week later, and only 2 weeks after the event I was flown out to new York to do a photo shoot. I will soon be going on a tour to Singapore, Tokyo, Paris, and Milan, each for three months, and then move to new York. Yes I may be a rarity, and no one can guarantee that u will be discovered, but Proscout brings the best to you, and that's their guarentee, the rest is up to you. The choice is yours, I'm glad I made the right one.

Proscouts not a scam! You're paying the 200 to attend classes. You go you audition if you're not good enough you're not picked. Thats that, all the agents there are legit if you go on there website you'll see all the people they've discovered. The only people saying its a scam are people that went and weren't good enough so they didn't get picked. Its not a scam take your child but make sure they're ready and good enough because there is a lot of people so that mean a lot of competition.

I took my daughter last week to an event in Pittsburgh and she was one of the few that attended that was asked to stay and receive her packet to go to Philly in Nov. Before I even took her to this event I did some research of my own. First of all, they are listed as A+ in the BBB. Since 2000 they have had 6 complaints. All of which have either been dismissed or resolved. I'm pretty sure that since they have been in business since 1996 I believe, if they were scamming people they would either be gone or would have changed their name a half a dozen times. Besides, if it was a scam don't you think they would choose everyone in the room?

The first thing they tell you is they are not there to take your money. That there will be very good looking people that get turned away and to not take it personal. They tell you the cost to go to Philly upfront so its not a shock if your child gets chosen. Once they interview everyone in the room they show a small video so that you can get an idea of what ProScout does. They then tell you that you are going to need between 10 and 15 photos and they specifically tell you don't go out and spend money on them. Take the photos your self and bring them to the hotel on the weekend you are there.

In no way shape or form do they promise you that you or your child is going to be famous. All they can do is pick out the ones who have the potential.

I was thrilled my daughter got picked to be seen by some of the top modeling agencies and I plan on going. Ive already paid my deposit. My daughter will be 11 in Nov. She is an all-star cheerleader. She is already 5ft2 and weighs a little under 100lbs. While I think my daughter has the potential to make it big I will not go in there nor will I let her go in there thinking she is going to walk about a star. This is all to get you in front of the people who could make it happen.

As for the $795, thats to pay for those people to come and look at your child. You really don't think they are going to spend their time doing it for free do you? If you were an agent, would you give up a weekend for free? didn't think so.

So, heres to hoping something wonderful happens for my child and for those of you whose actually been signed by an agent via ProScout..congrats! Would love to hear from you and any advice you can give would be appreciated! good151@comcast.net!

I went to a talent convention a few years ago. I did not get any call backs, but a few of the guys I went with are top models now. They appeared on an MTV modeling show a few years ago and have done several print ads.

At the same convention, a few years before the one I went to, Chad Michael Murray met his manager and was discovered. He went to the same acting classes I went to and got lucky enough to meet the right people.

It all depends on luck and looks. Very few people actually make it, and the ones that don't complain.

if it was a scam then how would they use famous actors and models right on their website?they would be shut down and sued.I've called Ford models and they do use them and consider it a good deal mostly.Model agencies get millions of pictures a month and they don't get to see the person for real and this is the difference.It is expensive but if someone really wants to meet 39 major agents all together and not have to pay for travel and hotel for all of them it is a lot easier and faster...and cheaper.i would think you might even get paid more as they are competing for a contract with you.I have yet to go, but still looking into it.2 that auditioned me;one worked with Fila and he does look like the same guy on the pictures but i haven't asked yet for a current webpage and the other is an actor with some movies coming out this summer;the killer(s)?(anthony cody)and 2 others I think.It does cost to get that stage built and fly in all the agents and hotels so they can see the people in person.the more the better I think is why.the cost is not maximum for this.I don't know where they get their money but I think it is from the companies they use as it has to be from somewhere.But I have tried using emails and talking to people but still haven't gotten really anywhere far so this seems like it will work a lot better.

I am an agent who has attended ps many times in the past. Yes, we get a nominal fee to attend (because we are WORKING) - and it is a very nominal fee. Out of all the searches I've been to I've found more models that I've ended up signing than at any other search. That's why I kept going back. Because it definitely wasn't for the money. They make you pay to attend because it costs money to fly all the agents in, put us up, and pay their costs. You'd end up paying more if you flew around the country to meet with all these agents in their respective cities around the country. No agency is going to fly you in to meet with them. You'd be expected to pay your own way. So the fact that you have all these agents in the same room and can come face-to-face with every one of them at once and know right then and there if they have any interest in you is well worth the money you spend to help make it happen. I have no affiliation with ps. I'm just an agent who's been there and found some of my top earning models there. Some of them are now making over $100, 000/year modeling. Look at it this way - if you get signed with an agency as a result of attending proscout you'll make all your money back and then some from the first gig you book. There are scams out there, sure, but this isn't one of them.

Proscout is not a SCAM but it is not a good way to get discovered! I just attended one recently. You attend the invitational for $800 and have no guarantee of getting a callback or even an interview with any agent. The individuals in the office indicated that plus size models are needed all over the USA and actors. I believed them of course the fact that that's their in industry. To my disappointment I get to the event and NO plus size agencies period. All the modeling agencies were looking for thin, tall women. So why lie and tell me that plus size people are needed when there are no agencies to represent them at the agent. Secondly, I really wanted to be an ACTRESS, the model part was to increase my marketing to agents. The Chamber Stevens guy may be good but he's not Hollywood's IT there are much better out there. After paying OUR money we have to interview to do a monologue AGAIN for him---I feel that every individual who paid should get a chance to display the talent of acting whether or NOT they qualify because according to proscout no experience needed to so why prescreen them? They paid so that's that. Yes, it's nice to get callbacks and all that BUT don't rely on them to sign you. Save your money and TURN in your info wherever you can get it without traveling. And not to forget, once you're there, there are mini workshops for $25 each..um we paid $800, what are we paying for again? Workshops should be free CONSIDERING that the 800 is just to meet agents no food, hotel, just registration. And then they say no callbacks ...well just for the experience. THIS IS PEOPLE'S LIFE. In a hard economy we dont have 800 to throw away to "have fun and meet people" and then come back 3-4 times again for the experience. You may as well get acting classes instead. Overall DON'T do it. I got callbacks so AM not bitter...it is a big ol' waste of money and time. If I could I would go back and NOT do it. P.S Usually all the kids/people-parents especially are kissing up to the agents and acting all social since Mr Marcus says dont do this or that..quite annoying when you ask me. Parents who are so desperate to hit hollywood and act a fool.

Proscout deffinately isn't a scam. Thanks to them I am signed with two different agencies, and living my dream.
It is all based on image. I am 6'0" and thin. There were girls at the invitational who were like 5'5" and trying to get into modeling. Im sorry, but if you're under 5'9" you're chances of getting signed are 1:200.

I took my son to one of these events. I actually read all this on here before I took him, but my husband said lets try...if it doesnt come out...then it was not meant to be...kind of att. We went, he did GREAT. He got 14 call backs and just signed with an agency. I can say if you are not wanting to move then you need to rethink. Because alot of the LA ones need you there to be able to go to casting. SO make sure you know what you want to do. We signed with a more local agent and they have been great. We are just starting out, but have had 4 auditions and keeping our fingers crossed. Dont think a call back means anything..YOU have to sale yourself..either they buy or dont. Most people wont get ANYTHING from it...but come on...why not try? I mean it will take years after the event before you grow. You have to build you resume just like anyone else. You do NOT go from proscout to superstar status...they are just your stepping stone.

Oh, and this is just too funny. Some people who post here should REALLY read the lines ABOVE the comment text box:

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Dear Rachelle24,

I tend to agree with several points you make on your comment. I'm just wondering, though, what was the name of the guy that interviewed you? Seems interesting to me that he ignored you the first time and liked you the second.

I did mention in my post a while back (over a hundred days ago) that ProScout (whether they are a scam or not is not the point) seems more geared towards models than actors. I have been getting emails and questions to expand on this information.

I was angry about ProScout's misleading information when we went to the event expecting to see big ACTING agencies, and there were none there. So why waste the young children's energy and time by making them learn and act a monologue, when there's really no one of consequence there to see them? Well... they did tell us that actors should know how to model, and models should know how to act. Good point, but they hardly picked any of the hopeful actors for ACTING. The majority of the callbacks were for MODELING, even for the actors!

We spend a lot of money getting my daughter to this event. Her dream is to become an ACTOR. She got 4 callbacks for modeling instead. We were lucky that the Agency we're with now does both. Her compcards are finally finished and she's finally ready to go. Only time will tell.

Good for you, Rachelle24, for your determination. I wish all of you hopefuls out there the best of success in your future endeavors.

PS: I appreciate the comments that are INFORMATIONAL, whether they are from a s0-called pro-ProScout-ist person or against it. I find comments that are ignorant, personally insulting and demeaning towards any person to be simply a waste of time, energy and space. They contribute nothing to the discussion about ProScout, IMHO.

Proscout is not a scam the first time I went I had little experience an so I recieved no callbacks. So I went home worked hard an tried again this time a recieved a callback and am now signed to a legit agency an have been working in commercials an photoshoots. :) It's all thanks to Proscout.

PROSCOUT IS A TOTAL SCAM AND THEY REALLY GOOD AT IT. EVERYONE DON'T BE FOOL BY THEM, I'VE BEEN THERE . I WASTE MY MONEY FOR NOTHING I REGRET MY $ 800 SO MUCH. 2008 I WENT TO THE ONE IN ORLANDO. THEY FAKE . FAKE ...

I have attended ProScout events 2 times and they have both been fun experiences. The president of ProScout approached me and we immediately hit it off. He is a very nice man and he gave me many tips. The first time I went, I believe I got 7 callbacks. The last time I went (07 I believe) I got 11. My callbacks were from many prestigious agencies including 2 from Elite and 1 from Ford. I would have signed right there but I was just a little too short and I had my braces still. Now that I am 5' 7" and free of braces I am hoping to find another weekend to attend so that I can get back in touch with some of these people. Overall, if you are serious about modeling or acting and you don't mind spending the money then this is a great opportunity.

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I recently went to a proscout interview in Columbus, OH and I have to say, I was really excited about the possibilities. They were honest and told you within the first minute of the lecture that it costs $800 and that no one is guaranteed anything. They are honest about what they do, they put you infront of the top people, for a fee. They aren't an agency, just a middle man. And I think $800 seems reasonable to be put infront of all those agencies rather than traveling all over the place to TRY and get in to see the agencies. Here you are guaranteed to be right in front of them. But back to my story, and I'm trying to be neutral because I haven't gone yet, but I went the first night and I was really nervous and I was all by myself, I went to the table and talked to the guy and he straight up asked me if I had taken any acting classes or if I was in a play, I said no, because thats the truth, he barely looked at me, and said to come back in 6 months because they are looking for people with experience. I left angry because it says NO EXPERIENCE needed. I wasn't going to walk away and have that be my possible one and only chance. So they were holding interviews the next day and I decided to go back, because in all truth, I have had a lot of experience over the past few years, he just caught me off guard, and I'd never been to one of these things so i didn't know what to expect. He wrote me off so early, I didn't know what to say. But I went back, I went through the interview process and he remembered me, and I told him I came back because I have had experience and because this is what I want to do and I wasn't going to let this chance slip away. He actually was talking and seeming interested in me, he spoke to me for longer than anyone else really, and told me he liked me, he liked my determination, and he that I was pretty cute. So I got invited to the invitational in Chicago. Of course I was thrilled and excited but I do have to note one thing that concerns me. I have had experience acting, not much, but definitely more than most, and enough to qualify. What concerns me is when they interview you and decide whether they think you have a chance, THEY NEVER ASK YOU TO ACT OR READ A MONOLOG! So I'm wondering if they just pass pretty people, or people with good personalities through, knowing they'll pay to try and won't succeed. I'm still going, but that thought, that we aren't even judged on our skills, seems like they are just trying to send anyone who they think will pay to go. But again, they are sending you to see big names and big agencies, but they're sending you with their eyes closed, because they have no idea what we're capable of. I'm a pretty girl, not trying to sound stuck up, but I really hope thats not why I got chosen because I'm serious about this and I can't really afford to take off from my small town and travel to new york and california every other weekend, I don't have the money to seek out people who probably won't even agree to see me. Well thats my little rant, like I said, I'm still going but just ask yourself if its worth it to you, because to me, its an opportunity I just can't pass up.

I just got back from a ProScout invitational in Dallas. I, like others I'm sure, was not sure if I should take my son or not. $8OO is not change to throw around, especially if you aren't sure if it's legit. I went ahead and took my son because I wanted him to know that I would do anything for him if I thought it would make his dreams come true. I honostly did NOT believe that I was doing the right thing. I thought that I was wasting our time and money. I am however, happy to say, that he did get a call back and we will be traveling to CA in the fall so that he can audition for a few pilots. I do believe that ProScout is a legit company but I also think that they could change the way they run their business. I think it is almost cruel and unusual punishment to make us sit in those chairs from 9 to 5 listening to a life draining seminar. They should give you an appx. time to be there to perform your monologue or walk the runway. I hope that my experience helps you with your decision.

i just came back from proscout in dallas may 2-3 and im going to paris for my first runway show wednsday. proscout is great im living proof and you can be too so dont listen to people you dont even know you dont even need to listen to me but follow your heart and dreams and if they are telling you to go to proscout then go, really what do you have to loose.

I think proscout can use some work on making people want to come to thier events. They make everything questionable. I went to an event with my son and everything went smoothly. I had doubts in my mind but went with the flow. He got 4 callbacks and we sighned with coast to coast and he has been in 16 tv comercials. Proscout is not a scam.