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My Cousin Angela suggested a Church to go to the Mormon Church in Lancaster, CA that would help me to relocate to another county because of an ex's abuse toward me and my children.

I attended a couple of services and partook in their communion services as well. Well it had something in the water they were giving out because it felt as though it like a tranquilizer of drug of some sort. A strange feeling came over me whenever I drank the water they were giving out to the Members. Nevertheless, My cousin Angela suggested I go in and speak with the Bishop to get help to relocate to Northern CA, Tehama County. So I did. When their Members, only men, no women, were coming to my house, they kept wanting me to say Joseph their leader was a prophet sent from God. I did not. When they helped me relocate they told me to check in with their Church in Tehama County. So I did

I attended once and got a very uncomfortable feeling. So I stopped atending, nevertheless, they continuted to come where I lived and kept harassing me into saying there Leader was a Prophet sent from GOD, well I did not, I moved to another apartment and they kept following me where ever I went or moved and continued to harass me into a saying this.

I never did, the only Prophet Joseph, was, is a profit of money from his members giving up oney from their pay checks. It was very parciular, there was never a woman sent, only men, not one woman from their Church harassed me, only the men recruiters for their Church.

They are wolves in sheep's clothing and just want members to give up money from their paychecks to support what ever purpose they want it for. This is how they make their money, the Church Heads don't work, they get money from the Members so they don't have to work.

The only prophet I see in this Church is the profit they get from Members hard earned money. It is just a scam, and they have their own Bible, they took parts of the King James Version and put it into their own version, which is plagerism.

Plagerism is against the Law, you cannot use someone else's idea for your own...

Update by SweetSag12
Dec 22, 2010 6:26 pm EST

Wow, you must be a member. No I didn't use them at all. I actually welcomed them into my home and fed their members because they claimed they did not have food or other means to support their missionaries. The person being used was me, and harassed on a regualr basis and being forced into something against my will.

I don't answer to Mormon's I answer to God. Maybe you should do the same!

Update by SweetSag12
Dec 23, 2010 5:55 pm EST

There are only 2 kinds of fruit, that that is good and that that is bad. Which one will you choose? I have been to many churches throughout my life beginning in Childhood. There are those that talk and there are those that walk. You either "Bare Good Fruit" or you "Bare Bad Fruit".

Update by SweetSag12
Dec 23, 2010 6:05 pm EST

As you can see, there are those that bare good fruit and there are those that don't. Just read the comments...All I did was put the truth of what happened to me, and look at what has become of it. Who sounds like a "Phycho" to you? There are some in the churches that did not hurt me, but there were other's that were just ruthless, just to get what they want. No I don't Judge I just do the writing of what is true and what is not...All I was doing was visiting and this is what came of it...I am only a simple messenger...

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S.O.L
Kalamazoo, US
Mar 04, 2011 3:53 pm EST

In the town where I was born
Lived a man who sailed to sea
And he told us of his life
In the land of submarines

So we sailed on to the sun
Till we found a sea of green
And we lived beneath the waves
In our yellow submarine

We all live in a yellow submarine
Yellow submarine, yellow submarine
We all live in a yellow submarine
Yellow submarine, yellow submarine

And our friends are all aboard
Many more of them live next door
And the band begins to play

We all live in a yellow submarine
Yellow submarine, yellow submarine
We all live in a yellow submarine
Yellow submarine, yellow submarine

{Full speed ahead Mr. Boatswain, full speed ahead
{ From: http://www.elyrics.net/read/b/beatles-lyrics/yellow-submarine-lyrics.html }
Full speed ahead it is, Sgt.
Cut the cable, drop the cable
Aye, aye, Sir, aye, aye
Captain, captain}

As we live a life of ease
Every one of us has all we need
(One of us, has all we need)
Sky of blue and sea of green
(Sky of blue, sea of green)
In our yellow submarine
(In our yellow, submarine, aha)

We all live in a yellow submarine
A yellow submarine, yellow submarine
We all live in a yellow submarine
A yellow submarine, yellow submarine

We all live in a yellow submarine
Yellow submarine, yellow submarine
We all live in a yellow submarine
Yellow submarine, yellow submarine

Ok ok it's not as good as *Brenda*'s choice of song but I think it works here...

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S.O.L
Kalamazoo, US
Mar 04, 2011 1:54 pm EST

For the most part "typical" christians are an alright bunch of folks...they pray, they live their lives and and hope for and actively promote the betterment of mankind, and although my beliefs don't quite jibe with theirs, I believe for the most part the world is a better place because of their activity.

Then there are people like D(ouche) B(ag) here. This guy not only stands up here and pounds the pulpit for pennies, but then has the outright NERVE to pass judgment on people with spite and vitriol that rivals some of the false prophets of the last one hundred years or so. Close minded ignorance is the true evil in this world. And to see it printed on a web site (or anywhere for that matter) just rubs me the wrong way. So again, I apologize for being an ### yesterday Xeno, and as of this moment, I'm going to go back and mess with my other favorite target(here I come Louie!) and not pay any more attention to this third rate Jim Jones/David Koresh wannabe any more.

~E~

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DB2010
Las Angelos, US
Mar 04, 2011 3:21 am EST

I was speaking spiritually, not of your earthly human father. You see, everyone belongs to God when they repent & accept Jesus Christ as their own Lord & Savior OR they belong to the devil (satan) if they refuse to repent. Here is what Jesus said to some jewish leaders: John 8:43; "Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say".
John 8:44; You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your fathers desire...".

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DB2010
Las Angelos, US
Mar 04, 2011 2:54 am EST

JDH55; I didn't cuss & swear at you did I? Of course not, I hoped to help open your eyes. And Hell is the place all the unrepentant go!
Xeno, I don't know what comments you refer to. Refresh my memory please.

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DB2010
Las Angelos, US
Mar 04, 2011 2:02 am EST

I have never read the book of mormon & I have no intentions of ever doing so! Of course you didn't get the private message (pm), he sent it directly to me. Perhaps Luther wrote those documents BEFORE he became a Christian.

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DB2010
Las Angelos, US
Mar 04, 2011 1:45 am EST

OOPS! I mean 4 letter word.

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DB2010
Las Angelos, US
Mar 04, 2011 1:43 am EST

I don't know any cuss words that have that my letters. But I DO know that he seems to be in love with one 4 letter work that starts with F.

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DB2010
Las Angelos, US
Mar 04, 2011 1:13 am EST

My denomination is not the issue here. I could be Baptist, Church of Christ, Assemblies of God, Methodist or any one of several other denominations. As for Martin Luther, I've never read or heard any such thing. Concerning S.O.L., you are unaware that he pm'd me. He used so much filthy language I refused to acknowledge him with a reply. I'm sure you (& he) know that those filthy dirty 3, 4, 5, 6, & 7 letter words are total DISRESPECT to believers as well as their faith. He obviously didn't care. And you ask me to give him respect? One has to give respect to get respect!

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DB2010
Las Angelos, US
Mar 04, 2011 12:26 am EST

Xeno; Don't you start. FYI: I am NOT pentecostal! Also, Christians are not "on a road to salvation". IF you are a Christian, you are already saved, not "on your way"! Third, I am not attempting to force anything on anyone, nor am I passing judgement. Every thing I've stated is in the scriptures. As for certain individuals in this thread, no judgement is required to tell that someone is unrepentant (unsaved). By their filthy language for example.

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butterfliqueen5
Orange, US
Mar 04, 2011 12:20 am EST
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Lottos never require you to pay anything to them...

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S.O.L
Kalamazoo, US
Mar 03, 2011 5:58 pm EST

true, and I apologize both for my earlier comment towards you Xeno and my lack of originality as of late... it's just that people like D-bag here tends to bring out the worst in me.

I don't judge anyone for their particular beliefs. ### it, no one is perfect and God knows I certainly fall in that category and to read some horse ### that basically states" Im right and your going to hell" just reminds me of the narrow minded B.S that is messing up the society in general...

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S.O.L
Kalamazoo, US
Mar 03, 2011 5:24 pm EST

Thanks for noticing Xeno! So glad you can chime in with yet another inane and incredibly unoriginal comment! There appears to be hope for this discussion yet!

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S.O.L
Kalamazoo, US
Mar 03, 2011 5:07 pm EST

This one is for you D-Bag:

Killing in the name of!
Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses
Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses
Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses
Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses
Huh!

Killing in the name of!
Killing in the name of

And now you do what they told ya
And now you do what they told ya
And now you do what they told ya
And now you do what they told ya
And now you do what they told ya
And now you do what they told ya
And now you do what they told ya
And now you do what they told ya
And now you do what they told ya
And now you do what they told ya
And now you do what they told ya
But now you do what they told ya
Well now you do what they told ya

Those who died are justified, for wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
You justify those that died by wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
Those who died are justified, for wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
You justify those that died by wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites

Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses
Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses
Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses
Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses
Uggh!

Killing in the name of!
Killing in the name of

And now you do what they told ya
And now you do what they told ya
And now you do what they told ya
And now you do what they told ya
And now you do what they told ya, now you're under control (7 times)
And now you do what they told ya, now you're under control
And now you do what they told ya, now you're under control
And now you do what they told ya, now you're under control
And now you do what they told ya, now you're under control
And now you do what they told ya, now you're under control
And now you do what they told ya, now you're under control
And now you do what they told ya!

Those who died are justified, for wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
You justify those that died by wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
Those who died are justified, for wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
You justify those that died by wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
Come on!

Yeah! Come on!

### you, I won't do what you tell me
### you, I won't do what you tell me
### you, I won't do what you tell me
### you, I won't do what you tell me
### you, I won't do what you tell me
### you, I won't do what you tell me
### you, I won't do what you tell me
### you, I won't do what you tell me
### you, I won't do what you tell me!
### you, I won't do what you tell me!
### you, I won't do what you tell me!
### you, I won't do what you tell me!
### you, I won't do what you tell me!
### you, I won't do what you tell me!
### you, I won't do what you tell me!
### you, I won't do what you tell me!
Mother###er!
Uggh!

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DB2010
Las Angelos, US
Mar 03, 2011 4:03 pm EST

Hey Brenda, over the last couple months we have not heard from SweetSag12 who started this Mormon thread. I wonder if she was able to stop the harassment from those cult members?

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S.O.L
Kalamazoo, US
Mar 03, 2011 3:44 pm EST

Every finger in the room
Is pointing at me
I wanna spit in their faces
Then I get afraid of what that could bring
I got a bowling ball in my stomach
I got a desert in my mouth
Figures that my courage would choose to sell our now
I've been looking for a savior in these dirty streets
Looking for a savior beneath these dirty sheets
I've been raising up my hands
Drive another nail in
Just what God needs
One more victim

[Chorus:]
Why do we
Crucify ourselves
Every day
I crucify myself
Nothing I do is good enough for you
Crucify myself
Every day
And my heart is sick of being in chains

Got a kick for a dog
Beggin' for Love
I gotta have my suffering
So that I can have my cross
I know a cat named Easter
He says will you ever learn
You're just an empty cage girl
If you kill the bird
I've been looking for a savior in these dirty streets
Looking for a savior beneath these dirty sheets
I've been raising up my hands
Drive another nail in
Got enough guilt to start
My own religion
Please be
Save me
I cry

[Chorus:]
Why do we
Crucify ourselves
Every day
I crucify myself
Nothing I do is good enough for you
Crucify myself
Every day
And my heart is sick of being in chains

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S.O.L
Kalamazoo, US
Mar 03, 2011 3:40 pm EST

Awwwww..

I think I offended the little zealot...

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DB2010
Las Angelos, US
Mar 03, 2011 3:37 pm EST

Brenda, you got in before I could post my last reply to S.O.L. But don't worry, I'm not about to waste my time on "it" anymore!

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S.O.L
Kalamazoo, US
Mar 03, 2011 3:34 pm EST

Old pirates, yes, they rob I;
Sold I to the merchant ships,
Minutes after they took I
From the bottomless pit.
But my hand was made strong
By the 'and of the Almighty.
We forward in this generation
Triumphantly.
Won't you help to sing
This songs of freedom
'Cause all I ever have:
Redemption songs;
Redemption songs.

Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery;
None but ourselves can free our minds.
Have no fear for atomic energy,
'Cause none of them can stop the time.
How long shall they kill our prophets,
While we stand aside and look? Ooh!
Some say it's just a part of it:
We've got to fullfil the book.

Won't you help to sing
This songs of freedom-
'Cause all I ever have:
Redemption songs;
Redemption songs;
Redemption songs.
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Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery;
None but ourselves can free our mind.
Wo! Have no fear for atomic energy,
'Cause none of them-a can-a stop-a the time.
How long shall they kill our prophets,
While we stand aside and look?
Yes, some say it's just a part of it:
We've got to fullfil the book.
Won't you have to sing
This songs of freedom? -
'Cause all I ever had:
Redemption songs -
All I ever had:
Redemption songs:
These songs of freedom,
Songs of freedom.

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DB2010
Las Angelos, US
Mar 03, 2011 3:32 pm EST

Oh Boo Hoo Hoo Boo Hoo Hoo...
I'm tired of hearing you cry little baby. Go have your mommy wipe your tears & change your diaper. Say whatever you like, call me childish until the cows come home, you'll get no further replies from me. You area waste of my time. Good Riddance.

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S.O.L
Kalamazoo, US
Mar 03, 2011 3:13 pm EST

Can't you see how easily I'm bothered by persistence
One step from lashing out at you...
You want in to get under my skin
And call yourself a friend
I've got more friends like you
What do I do?

(Pre) is there no standard anymore?
What it takes, who I am, where I've been
Belong
You can't be something you're not
Be yourself, by yourself
Stay away from me
A lesson learned in life
Known from the dawn of time

(Chorus) respect, walk

Run your mouth when I'm not around
It's easy to achieve
You cry to weak friends that sympathize
Can you hear the violins playing your song?
Those same friends tell me your every word

(Pre)

(Chorus)

Are you talking to me?
No way punk

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S.O.L
Kalamazoo, US
Mar 03, 2011 3:09 pm EST

[censored] Bag 2010-

You know nothing...you see nothing...and you ARE nothing...I hope your god has mercy on your pathetic excuse for existence...

Rot in Pieces...

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DB2010
Las Angelos, US
Mar 03, 2011 3:03 pm EST

Let's see...S.O.L. SON OF LUCIFER
I KNOW that's right!

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S.O.L
Kalamazoo, US
Mar 03, 2011 1:56 pm EST

Oh you poor misguided fool...side stepping the questions(typical christian) and ignoring the obvious(again, typical christian)

If, there is indeed a hell, Im sure good sir, that you will be there right along side all of the other "god, guns and bullets" type. You are nothing more than a hateful, spiteful little man(in all sense of the word) who refuses to see the true wonders that are right in front of you...

Poor ###, Im not even going to tell you Im posting this just to get you and your ilk riled up. Your to stupid to see this post for what it REALLY is anyway so have fun spinning yourself in a circle...just could you spin a little faster, your more amusing that way...

Jerk off...

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alibaba20111
Mt Albert, CA
Mar 02, 2011 2:43 pm EST
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I just found a great quote from Mahatma Ghandi which still rings true today: " I like your God but I don't like your Christians. Your Christians are nothing like your God "

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DB2010
Las Angelos, US
Mar 02, 2011 1:48 am EST

We'll save this for PMs' tomorrow, Okay?

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DB2010
Las Angelos, US
Mar 02, 2011 1:21 am EST

PS: You should always spell Bible with a capitol B

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DB2010
Las Angelos, US
Mar 02, 2011 1:20 am EST

Brenda, that refers to other Christians i.e. Brothers & Sisters in Christ.
Quote: " Whosoever shall say to his BROTHER, Thou Fool..."

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DB2010
Las Angelos, US
Mar 01, 2011 10:35 pm EST

BUT, He DIED for YOU, (WHOSOEVER will) to cover your sin(s). All you have to do is accept the FREE GIFT through repentance. And yes, He does love you. What you don't understand is, He loves the sinner, it's the sin He hates. And finally, God does not send anyone to Hell. All who are there & all who go there sent/send themselves there.

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DB2010
Las Angelos, US
Mar 01, 2011 10:09 pm EST

Really? "The FOOL has said in his heart, there is no God" Proverbs.

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DB2010
Las Angelos, US
Mar 01, 2011 9:48 pm EST

We will see who's the dumb*** on the great day of judgment you HELL-BOUND unbelieving LOUDMOUTH FOOL!
Furthermore, you don't have a CLUE about the "power of Christ"! The only knowledge you do have is how to best serve YOUR FATHER SATAN.

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S.O.L
Kalamazoo, US
Mar 01, 2011 9:34 pm EST

DB2010---hmmm [censored] Bag 2010? sounds about right..

Look [censored], you sound exactly like Jim Jones and Jimmy Swagger, Jim Baker(is YOUR name Jim?) and all of the other hell fire and brimstone idiots that are pounding the pulpit for dollars...

Why don't you find a new chord to play eh?

MAY THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPEL YOU... and all that other ###

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S.O.L
Kalamazoo, US
Mar 01, 2011 9:31 pm EST

Where do bad folks go when they die?
They don't go to heaven where the angels fly
They go to the lake of fire and fry
Won't see them again 'till the fourth of July

I knew a lady who came from Duluth
She got bit by a dog with a rabid tooth
She went to her grave just a little too soon
And she flew away howling on the yellow moon

Where do bad folks go when they die?
They don't go to heaven where the angels fly
They go down to the lake of fire and fry
Won't see them again 'till the fourth of July

Now the people cry and the people moan
And they look for a dry place to call their home
And try to find some place to rest their bones
While the angels and the devils try to make them their own

Where do bad folks go when they die?
They don't go to heaven where the angels fly
They go down to the lake of fire and fry
Won't see them again 'till the fourth of July

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DB2010
Las Angelos, US
Mar 01, 2011 9:30 pm EST

I didn't say that either. God is not limited in any way shape or form. It's alibaba who's limited. By his/her own choice. Remember, "The preaching of the gospel is foolishness...to those who perish"
Look at the last one by S.O.L. Yet ANOTHER Fool!

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S.O.L
Kalamazoo, US
Mar 01, 2011 8:29 pm EST

here's one for the ones with sticks in their bums:

Mankind in his insatiable search for divine
Knowledge has discarded all biblical teachings

Realizing that the strength of religion is the repression of
knowledge
All structures of religion have collapsed

Life prays for death
in the wake of the horror of these revelations

It was never imagined how graphic the reality that would
be known as the end
of creation
Would manifest itself

We believe all this chaos and atrocity can be traced
Back to one single event

We hold these truths to be painfully self-evident
All men are not created equal
Only the strong will prosper
Only the strong will conquer
Only in the darkness of Christ have I realized
God Hates Us All

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DB2010
Las Angelos, US
Mar 01, 2011 8:22 pm EST

It should be obvious by now that he (or she?) IS NOT going to accept the truth. He/she will believe only what their comfortable with. Anything else likely cramps their chosen life-style or at least steps on their toes. For him/her to truly repent would mean giving up too many of their sinful pleasures.

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S.O.L
Kalamazoo, US
Mar 01, 2011 6:05 pm EST

and yet another blast from the past...

My girl, my girl, don't lie to me
Tell me where did you sleep last night

In the pines, in the pines
Where the sun don't ever shine
I would shiver the whole night through

My girl, my girl, where will you go
I'm going where the cold wind blows

In the pines, in the pines
Where the sun don't ever shine
I would shiver the whole night through

Her husband, was a hard working man
Just about a mile from here
His head was found in a driving wheel
But his body never was found

My girl, my girl, don't lie to me
Tell me where did you sleep last night

In the pines, in the pines
Where the sun don't ever shine
I would shiver the whole night through

My girl, my girl, where will you go
I'm going where the cold wind blows

In the pines, in the pines
Where the sun don't ever shine
I would shiver the whole night through

My girl, my girl, don't lie to me
Tell me where did you sleep last night

In the pines, in the pines
Where the sun don't ever shine
I would shiver the whole night through

My girl, my girl, where will you go
I'm going where the cold wind blows

In the pines, in the pines
Where the sun don't ever shine
I would shiver the whole night through

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DB2010
Las Angelos, US
Mar 01, 2011 5:55 pm EST

alibaba, aka; BLIND, DEAF & DUMB:
Rest assured, the feeling is mutual. In fact, I'm finished with you. I have far better things to do with my time than to argue with FOOLS (you & others like you) who are Spiritually BLIND. The ONLY time you will know HIS Eternal Truth is when you're burning in the TORMENTS of HELL & The Lake Of FIRE! And after you've spent you're first
100, 000, 000 centuries there & know that you're Eternal Damnation has only just began, you will curse yourself forever for rejecting the only REAL TRUTH of the ONE & ONLY Real God there is!

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S.O.L
Kalamazoo, US
Mar 01, 2011 3:07 pm EST

Sorry folks I just had to:

If God had a name, what would it be
And would you call it to his face
If you were faced with him in all his glory
What would you ask if you had just one question

And yeah yeah God is great yeah yeah God is good
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

What if God was one of us
Just a slob like one of us
Just a stranger on the bus
Trying to make his way home

If God had a face what would it look like
And would you want to see
If seeing meant that you would have to believe
In things like heaven and in jesus and the saints and all the prophets

And yeah yeah god is great yeah yeah god is good
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

What if God was one of us
Just a slob like one of us
Just a stranger on the bus
Trying to make his way home
He's trying to make his way home
Back up to heaven all alone
Nobody calling on the phone
Except for the pope maybe in rome

And yeah yeah God is great yeah yeah God is good
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

What if god was one of us
Just a slob like one of us
Just a stranger on the bus
Trying to make his way home
Just trying to make his way home
Like a holy rolling stone
Back up to heaven all alone
Just trying to make his way home
Nobody calling on the phone
Except for the pope maybe in rome

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alibaba20111
Mt Albert, CA
Mar 01, 2011 2:59 pm EST
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DB: Talking to you is a waste of time Like I said before a rational person can not communicate with an irrational person I'm tired of wasting words on you

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DB2010
Las Angelos, US
Mar 01, 2011 12:38 am EST

Hey aliDUMBa; You better re-read my post. I didn't say HE is a "sexual" being!