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Monavie, LLC Threatens a Family with Personal Harm
Sadly, Monavie, LLC is encouraging its distributors to engage in Mafia type behaviror. This distributor goes by the name Just the Truth, Stuff, Stuff Stuff, and Mr. Stuff in public forums and is making threats on behalf of Monavie, LLC, an exampl of which is as follows:
Hey Xxxxxx
Ok here is how this is going to go down. It's taken a while, but all of the emails are put nicely together. Full details including all the routing for the ones that passed through the xxx server.
The first batch will go to you wife just in case she doesn't know what you're up to, but I doubt she doesn't, I hear she's as phycotic as you are. And then email copies to your old buddy Xxxx just for good measure. Then copies will be sent to the regulatory agency that pressingly licenses you. Just making sure I have the right info.
Cert. No
Name
Address
City
State/Nation
Zip
Branch
Status
Expires
xxxxxxx
Xxxxx, xxx, x.
xxxxxxx
x, United States
xx
Active
6/30/2010
And to top it all off all of your neighbors will get a hard copy of the emails mailed to their homes and all of your family members will get the same. It will be a very cool Christmas don't you think Xxxxxx? Here's a list of your neighbors, let me know if I missed anyone.
Chad & Corina Xxxx
Steven Xxxxxxxx
Chris J Xxxxxxx
Bill Xxxxxx
Saundra Xxxxxx
Mark & Sandy Xxxxxx
Joseph Xxxxxx
Joseph Xxxxxx
James & Laurie Xxxxxi
D Xxxxx
Ollie Xxxxxx
Nels R Xxxxxxx
Stephanie & Kraig Xxxxxx
Jeff Xxxxxxxxx
Ed & Tammy Xxxxxx
R & N Xxxxxxx
Drew Xxxxxxx
Kerry Xxxxxxx
William Xxxxxx
Cindy & Tony Xxxxx
Deshawna Xxxxxxx
L Xxxxxxxxxx
Chris Xxxxxxxrf
J Xxxxxxxx
Mark Xxxxxxxxxxx
Preston Xxxx
So there you have it. Have fun explaining this ### to the town of Xxxxxx.
Stuff
Hey Loser
I changed my mind. Here's a better idea to get your info out faster, let's use an automated online service and we can send a voice message to each one of the neighbors. What do you think, good idea Xxxxxx?
Chad & Corina Xxxxx (xxx) xxx-7536
Todd & Tina Xxxxx (xxx) xxx-6785
Steven Xxxxx (xxx) xxx-9282
Chris J Xxxxxxx (xxx) xxx-9874
Bill Xxxxxxx (xxx) xxx-0131
Saundra Xxxxxxx (xxx) xxx-4730
Mark & Sandy Xxxxxx (xxx) xxx-1204
Joseph Xxxxxx (xxx) xxx-5394
Joseph Xxxxx (xxx) xxx-4490
James & Laurie Xxxxxxxx (xxx) xxx-3285
D Xxxxx (xxx) xxx-1558
Ollie Xxxxx (xxx) xxx-3340
Nels R Xxxxxxxxx (xxx) xxx-7871
Stephanie & Kraig Xxxxxxx (xxx) xxx-0532
Jeff Xxxxxxxxxxxx (xxx) xxx-5632
Ed & Tammy Xxxxxx (xxx) xxx-4698
R & N Xxxxxxx (xxx) xxx-4633
Drew Xxxxxx (xxx) xxx-8053
Kerry Xxxxxx (xxx) xxx-8386
William Xxxxxxx (xxx) xxx-6578
Cindy & Tony Xxxxx (xxx) xxx-0844
Deshawna Xxxxxxxx (xxx) xxx-3982
L Soderberg (xxx) xxx-3231
Chris Xxxxxxx (xxx) xxx-2640
J Xxxxx (xxx) xxx-8353
Mark Xxxxxxxxxx (xxx) xxx-4044
Preston Xxxxx (xxx) xxx-4040
and of course...
Xxxx Xxxxxx (xxx) xxx-7810 and cell (xxx) xxx-xxxx
not to mention that we need to leave a message for the wifey on her cell (xxx) xxx-xxxx
Oh ya, and Xxxx (xxx) xxx-xxxx or (xxx) xxx-xxxx, which one is the best do you think?
Anyone else you can think of? Do you have any family numbers handy, that might work well?
I think we need to let everyone know what kind of a pervert they're living next to, plus I also think using the phone is more effective don't you think Xxxx?
Have a nice day Xxxxxx boy.
Just The Truth
Just The Truth/Stuff/Stuff Stuff/Mr. Stuff recently made the following public comment:
First of all, I am defiantly not an (Monavie) employee, I haven’t had a job in more than 15 years. I’m just a regular Distributor. So why would they give a rip about what I say, hmm, because they care I guess. I’ve visited the MonaVie offices on many occasions and have seen Dallin Larsen, or Randy Larsen or Henry Marsh sitting in the MonaVie café chatting with Distributors and potential Distributors touring the facility. I’ve had lunch with all of them and spent time chatting with them on more occasions that I can even remember.
Also, there are more than just 19 Black Diamonds, the IDS only goes up to June 2008, you make it sound like that’s all that have ever been. There are now 44 Black Diamonds and above that have received their Black Mercedes. There were also 47 Distributors (up to last September) that have earned a total of $1million or more since they started doing the MonaVie business. That’s nearly one $1million earner every month . The IDS is usually out of date by the time it’s generated, the most current one is to the end of June 2008, but they have to use historical data to create it. Not too shabby considering the that it started in January of 2005."
Company Business Name: Monavie, LLC
Country of complaint: United States
Address: 10855 South River Front Parkway, South Jordan, Utah
Website: monavie.com
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
The Monavie Scam Detailed
Let’s look in detail why Monavie is a Scam whos business practices are unethical at best and boarder on criminal:
First and foremost; too many crooks are involved with Monavie at its highest levels, along with the clinical study that was done on the juice.
Dallin Larsen, Monavie CEO, was previously an owner and Vice-President of the company Dynamic Essentials, Inc. This company focuses on health and wellness products, primarily nutritional supplements.
In late 2003, just months before the launch of Monavie, the FDA sited Dynamic Essentials, Inc and forced them to destroy their product. Shortly thereafter, Dynamic Essentials, Inc. was shut down by the FDA for false claims that their product would treat various illnesses like like cancer, arthritis and ADD. These actions are detailed in the following press release:
http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/2003/NEW00976.html
Mr. Larsen went on to found Monavie, LLC just months after this statement was issued by the FDA. Monavie, LLC is now making nearly the same claims made by Dynamic Essentials, Inc and following the same business model Dynamic Essentials, Inc followed.
Dallin Larsen has a documented track record of promoting fraudulent health claims and business practices associated with his business ventures. An example of this in an audio inks with Dallin Larsen raving about the health benefits of Dynamic Essentials product right before the FDA shut them down for deceptive and unethical business practices:.
http://web.archive.org/web/20020205072337/dynamicessentials.com/msMembersPresent.html
January 28, 2002 distributor training conference call featuring Dallin Larsen follows:
http://web.archive.org/web/20020205212919/63.167.229.232/deistream/conf020128.wma
*** Note that Dallin Larsen uses numerous deceptive comments on this call, much like he does with Monavie.
Second, and most important, the independent study performed by Dr. Alexander G. Schauus on the benefits of Monavie that every Monavie distributor across the country references in their presentations has be declared by The National Council Against Health Fraud as a completely invalid study.
Not only that, but Dr. Schauss’s company was raided by the FDA where they seized illegally imported drugs, unapproved medical devices and other items at the clinic. How bogus is the Monavie clinical study now?
http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-9205625_ITM
http://www.lysator.liu.se/skeptical/newsletters/Georgia_Skeptic/GS05-05.TXT
Recently, the FDA issued a Warning to MonaVie and sales reps for making unethical medical claims. FDA is not done with MonaVie yet, after a cyber warning, they keep MonaVie on the Radar. With all these reps making medical claims and giving their name, phone number and website out, the FDA has a way to hit Monavie hard.
http://www.fda.gov/cder/warn/cyber/2007/UTVokes.pdf
Interestingly, for a privately held company, Monavie, LLC sure does have a lot of complaints on the Better Business Bureau website!
http://utah.bbb.org/WWWRoot/Report.aspx?site=139&bbb=1166&firm=21000953
Of even more interest is the very recent lawsuit filed by Quixstar (Amway) against Monavie for making unethical medical claims in order to build their business back in March of 08. Quixstars intent for the suit is to help protect the MLM industry from MonaVies deceptive tactics to build a business. Many examples was provided with Doctors making speeches of falsely claiming MonaVie cures cancer. The docket link does cost 8 cents per page to review the court case.
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-utdce/case_no-2:2008cv00209/case_id-65339/
Finally, Monavie is a sinking ship. Across all of its markets, Monavie distributors are dropping out of the program at an alarmingly fast rate. This dramatic collapse of Monavie started 6-8 months ago and has accelerated over the past few months. What does this all mean? For one, anyone would be foolish to get involved with this company.
Company Business Name: Monavie, LLC
Country of complaint: United States
Website: monavie.com
The MonaVie Scam Detailed
December 27, 2008 by snakeoilbuster
Let’s look in detail why Monavie is a Scam whos business practices are unethical at best and boarder on criminal:
First and foremost; too many crooks are involved with Monavie at its highest levels, along with the clinical study that was done on the juice.
Dallin Larsen, Monavie CEO, was previously an owner and Vice-President of the company Dynamic Essentials, Inc. This company focuses on health and wellness products, primarily nutritional supplements.
In late 2003, just months before the launch of Monavie, the FDA sited Dynamic Essentials, Inc and forced them to destroy their product. Shortly thereafter, Dynamic Essentials, Inc. was shut down by the FDA for false claims that their product would treat various illnesses like like cancer, arthritis and ADD. These actions are detailed in the following press release:
http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/2003/NEW00976.html
Mr. Larsen went on to found Monavie, LLC just months after this statement was issued by the FDA. Monavie, LLC is now making nearly the same claims made by Dynamic Essentials, Inc and following the same business model Dynamic Essentials, Inc followed.
Dallin Larsen has a documented track record of promoting fraudulent health claims and business practices associated with his business ventures. An example of this in an audio inks with Dallin Larsen raving about the health benefits of Dynamic Essentials product right before the FDA shut them down for deceptive and unethical business practices:.
http://web.archive.org/web/20020205072337/dynamicessentials.com/msMembersPresent.html
January 28, 2002 distributor training conference call featuring Dallin Larsen follows:
http://web.archive.org/web/20020205212919/63.167.229.232/deistream/conf020128.wma
*** Note that Dallin Larsen uses numerous deceptive comments on this call, much like he does with Monavie.
Second, and most important, the independent study performed by Dr. Alexander G. Schauus on the benefits of Monavie that every Monavie distributor across the country references in their presentations has be declared by The National Council Against Health Fraud as a completely invalid study.
Not only that, but Dr. Schauss’s company was raided by the FDA where they seized illegally imported drugs, unapproved medical devices and other items at the clinic. How bogus is the Monavie clinical study now?
http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-9205625_ITM
http://www.lysator.liu.se/skeptical/newsletters/Georgia_Skeptic/GS05-05.TXT
Recently, the FDA issued a Warning to MonaVie and sales reps for making unethical medical claims. FDA is not done with MonaVie yet, after a cyber warning, they keep MonaVie on the Radar. With all these reps making medical claims and giving their name, phone number and website out, the FDA has a way to hit Monavie hard.
http://www.fda.gov/cder/warn/cyber/2007/UTVokes.pdf
Interestingly, for a privately held company, Monavie, LLC sure does have a lot of complaints on the Better Business Bureau website!
http://utah.bbb.org/WWWRoot/Report.aspx?site=139&bbb=1166&firm=21000953
Of even more interest is the very recent lawsuit filed by Quixstar (Amway) against Monavie for making unethical medical claims in order to build their business back in March of 08. Quixstars intent for the suit is to help protect the MLM industry from MonaVies deceptive tactics to build a business. Many examples was provided with Doctors making speeches of falsely claiming MonaVie cures cancer. The docket link does cost 8 cents per page to review the court case.
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-utdce/case_no-2:2008cv00209/case_id-65339/
Finally, Monavie is a sinking ship. Across all of its markets, Monavie distributors are dropping out of the program at an alarmingly fast rate. This dramatic collapse of Monavie started 6-8 months ago and has accelerated over the past few months. What does this all mean? For one, anyone would be foolish to get involved with this company.
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FDA Issues Warning Against High Ranking Monavie Distributor
December 15, 2008 by snakeoilbuster
http://www.fda.gov/cder/warn/cyber/2007/UTVokes.pdf
July 6, 2007
CERTIFIED MAIL
RETURN RECEIPT REQUESTED
Mr. xxxxxx xxxx
xxxx xxx xxxx xxx
xxxxxx, xx, xxxx
Dear Mr. xxxxx:
This is to advise you that the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has reviewed your web site at the Internet address http://www.acai-berry.com and has determined that your products “MonaVie Original, ” “MonaVie Active, ” “MonaVie Combo, ” and “MonaVie Gel” are promoted for conditions that cause the products to be drugs under section 201(g)(1) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (the Act) [21 U.S.C. § 321(g)(1)]. The therapeutic claims on your web site establish that the products are drugs because they are intended for use in the cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease. The marketing of these products with these claims violates the Act.
Examples of the claims observed on your web site include:
MonaVie Original, Active, Combo and Gel
“Imagine a juice product that combines a variety of the most powerful fruits … with additional compounds that aid in the fight against inflammation, and you’ll find MonaVie ….”
“Acai Berries [an ingredient in the MonaVie products] are high in essential fatty acids and omegas – 60% Oleic omega 9 – a monounsaturated essential fatty acid which helps to lower LDL (harmful cholesterol) while maintaining HDL (beneficial cholesterol). 12% Linoleic (omega 6) – a polyunsaturated essential fatty acid which has also been found to lower LDL while maintaining HDL.”
“Acai also contains many valuable Phytosterols. Sterols are compounds of plant cell membranes providing numerous benefits to the Human body, namely the reduction of blood plasma cholesterol.”
MonaVie Active
“MonaVie Active is MonaVie Original with two additional ingredients meant specifically to help relieve joint/muscle pain and inflammation ….”
Furthermore, your MonaVie products are not generally recognized as safe and effective for the above referenced conditions and therefore, they are also “new drugs” under section 201(p) of the Act [21 U.S.C. § 321(p)]. New drugs may not be legally marketed in the U.S. without prior approval from FDA as described in section 505(a) of the Act [21 U.S.C. § 355(a)]. FDA approves a new drug on the basis of scientific data submitted by a drug sponsor to demonstrate that the drug is safe and effective.
This letter is not intended to be an all-inclusive review of your web site and products your firm markets. It is your responsibility to ensure that all products marketed by your firm comply with the Act and its implementing regulations.
If you need additional information or have questions concerning any products distributed through your web site, please contact FDA. You may respond in writing to Kristen Moe, Compliance Officer, 5100 Paint Branch Parkway, College Park, MD 20740. If you have any questions concerning this letter, please contact Ms. Moe at [protected].
Sincerely,
/s/
Jennifer A. Thomas
Acting Director
Division of Enforcement
Center for Food Safety
And Applied Nutrition
cc:
Monavie Corporation Headquarters
10757 South Riverfront Parkway
Suite 110
Salt Lake City, UT 84095
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MonaVie: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
December 1, 2008 by snakeoilbuster
1. Monavie - The Good
Monavie was founded by Dallin Larsen and is based out of Salt Lake City, Utah. Their juice is a combination of 19 blends of fruit juice, the leading ingredient of which is a freeze-dried and powdered version of acai. There have been plenty of testimonials from people using the MonaVie product, ranging from headache relief, arthritis, to lowered blood pressure and relief from other heart-related issues.
Monavie is a network marketing company, and they pay out, up to 50% commissions on a binary compensation plan (which means you need two “legs” under you). A bottle of their juice retails at $37.50, and requires a registration fee of $39.00.
2. Monavie - The Bad
One of the first concerns about starting a Monavie business is the mandatory order of four bottles per month (approximately $130 before shipping and taxes) just to be eligible to collect a check. The price is not so much the issue, as the volume of liquid. Unless you have a family that enjoys the juice, you will be making a commitment to include this juice as a staple in your diet.
Monavie has a pretty standard “network marketing” model for their distributors to follow - making lists of friends and family members to invite over for a “tasting party”. This is where you can have a bunch of strangers in your home, chugging the zesty juice that you paid for. In fact, distributors are encouraged to actually hand out bottles to prospects. At nearly $40 a pop, it does not take long to become an expensive endeavor.
3. Monavie - The Ugly
The real downfall of starting or growing Monavie business is their marketing plan. Like so many other network marketing companies, they hold that your best results will come from hounding your “warm market”. What is truly unfortunate is when they advertise that a distributor can make Black Diamond (the top rank in the company) in 3 months because a professional network marketer that already had a substantial downline did it.
This is refereed to as “cross recruiting” - where a company will recruit a full-time network marketer with a big organization to swing their downline over to their company. All the while, they recommend that distributors just “follow the system” of friends and family. This hypocrisy and lack of integrity is one of the key issues that people take with network marketing.
Growing a Monavie business can be a great opportunity. They have a decent product, but there are plenty of companies that have great products, and many people that market great products never make a dime. There are also plenty of terrible products that generate millions of dollars in revenue (anyone remember the pet rock?) The difference is the marketer, and their ability to target their market effectively.
In closing, I would say that starting and developing a Monavie business is lucrative if someone knows how to use the telephone, the Internet, and other effective marketing tools. It is not a scam, but like any business, success will be determined by the skill-set of the marketer. Monavie is definitely not a lottery ticket or a stock option - meaning, you do not just buy in and wait for a payout.
If someone does not have the first clue on how to market effectively, then I would suggest they either learn how to be an effective marketer, or else just use the acai juice as a health supplement.
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A Drink’s Purple Reign
November 26, 2008 by snakeoilbuster
Devotees claim MonaVie cures their ills and makes them millionaires. But is it just hype in a bottle?
By Tony Dokoupil | NEWSWEEK
Flanked by a Ferrari, a Maserati, a Bentley, a Rolls-Royce and a Lamborghini, Dallin Larsen paced the stage, swigging deeply from a bottle in his hand. “I’ll tell you what, ” said the tanned 49-year-old, opening his arms to the 4, 000-person crowd, people are “looking for something they can count on, they can depend on, that’s constant.” The stirring scene would not be out of place at a megachurch revival—except Larsen’s event, organized this June in Orlando, Fla., was bent on earning sales rather than salvation. The object of hope was not God but a dark purple fruit juice called MonaVie.
The rich syrupy blend of Brazilian açai (pronounced “ah-sigh-ee”) berries and 18 other fruits has gained a cult following among those who say it can kill pain, disease and malnutrition. Packaged in wine bottles like the one Larsen gripped onstage, MonaVie retails for around $40 a pop and isn’t available in stores. Instead, the Utah-based company tore a page from the Avon lady, enlisting regular people to sell the product to friends and family. Now MonaVie claims to be one of the world’s fastest-growing private companies, with inroads on five continents, and an army of drinkers and sales apostles signing up at a rate of 10, 000 a week. Earlier this year, the company announced that cumulative sales had topped $1 billion and that it had signed its millionth unsalaried sales person. “We’re blessed, ” says Larsen, who founded the company in 2005. (As a private organization, MonaVie isn’t required to publish financial data, making such claims difficult to judge.)
In a sliding economy, MonaVie appears to buck the trend, minting dozens of mom-and-pop millionaires, according to company sales data, and luring customers who rave about the not-too-sweet taste and miraculous health benefits. In NEWSWEEK interviews and proliferating online videos, people testify to MonaVie beating back cancer, curbing anxiety and controlling the symptoms of autism. Among the converted are former Daytona 500 champ Geoff Bodine, who credits MonaVie with helping him recover from one of the worst crashes in NASCAR history; Viacom CEO Sumner Redstone, who says it will help him live another 50 years (he’s 85); and Boston Red Sox outfielder J.D. Drew, who sells the stuff on his MySpace page.
Distributors Diane Nafziger and Sherry Whitaker embody the two-sided MonaVie pitch: better health and more income. The former first-grade teacher and onetime flight attendant travel the country hosting “tasting parties” and sales meetings to entice new recruits. At a recent event in a New Jersey Holiday Inn, they put on a smooth presentation for an audience of around 10 people. Nafziger took the stage first, describing how a diabetic friend committed to MonaVie broke his need for insulin shots. Then Whitaker plied the business angle, outlining MonaVie’s sales structure. For a $39 initiation fee and responsibility for sales of at least eight bottles of MonaVie a month, people can retail the product and build their own sales tree, which is where the big money is. In two years, Whitaker and Nafziger have built a 30, 000-person tree, earning them up to 20 percent of every sale—which is more than $1 million each in annual commission.
But not everyone is drinking the Kool-Aid. Critics call MonaVie a “legalized scam” that benefits only a few kingpin executives. The product itself, they say, is an overhyped fruit drink that eludes drug regulation by the Food and Drug Administration by letting its distributors (as opposed to MonaVie itself) make the health promises. On PurpleHorror.com, a hugely trafficked MonaVie discussion Web site so large that it’s slow to load, outraged distributors and perhaps more level-headed juice fans trash the purple elixir. a NEWSWEEK reporter who took the MonaVie daily dose—two ounces, twice a day—for two weeks, didn’t experience the drink’s miraculous benefits, and got headaches. (Then again, that might have been because he got new glasses.)
Meanwhile, most of the million-strong sales team is really just drinking the juice, according to MonaVie’s 2007 income disclosure statement, a federally required printout of their distributor earnings. More than 90 percent were considered “wholesale customers, ” whose earnings are mostly discounts on sales to themselves. Fewer than 1 percent qualified for commissions and of those, only 10 percent made more than $100 a week. And the dropout rate, while not disclosed by MonaVie, is around 70 percent, according to a top recruiter.
Larsen, for his part, realizes that his sales team can get him in hot water with the Feds. A 20-year-veteran of the multi-level marketing industry, he left a senior post at another juice company in 2002, a year before the FDA destroyed the company’s “bogus products” that were being falsely promoted to treat “cancer, arthritis and attention deficit disorder.” Last summer, the FDA warned MonaVie about medicinal claims on its Web site and, in an email to NEWSWEEK, says it’s satisfied with the company’s response. At sales meetings, like the one in Florida, Larsen says he reminds people that MonaVie “is just a juice.” Meanwhile an 18-person compliance department investigates distributors suspected of making false claims—although with a million sales people on the books, that’s easier said than done. “It’s next to impossible, ” Larsen concedes, “like herding cats.” With sales of a million bottles a week, it’s also like minting money.
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Monavie, What Is The Truth?
October 14, 2008 by snakeoilbuster
With the recent increase of baby boomers interests in wellness products, this has brought about a great deal of timely marketing ideas bursting into the economy. You should be seeing hundreds of ‘health’ juice drinks around the globe. The latest phenomenon is the MonaVie scam.
We will discover the truth behind the MonaVie scam. With the help of some known facts you will also be able to take an insider look. Instead of boring you with some ‘fatty’ information we will dive straight into the heart of the matter and surface the ‘meat’ of the MonaVie scam.
Founding MonaVie
If you have not done your homework about the MonaVie scam yet it is fine. Here is how MovaVie actually started. MonaVie was founded by a gentleman named Daillin Larsen. Daillin had come from a 17 year experience on direct selling and wanted to share the açai berry’s health benefits with people.
Instead of just creating a product with the açai berry, Daillin has his team of scientists identify 19 fruits to be included in the MonaVie product drink. That is your great summary to the well known MonaVie drink. Since then, it has evolved into the MonaVie Active formula drink.
Before The MonaVie Scam And The System
Just don’t judge the MonaVie scam to be valid too quickly because it was not this way in the beginning. You should do some good research on more about the company before drawing your own conclusion.
Like all typical multi level marketing systems your guess is a correct about it’s selling propositions. You are normally encouraged to become Independent Distributors if you purchase MonaVie’s products. You profit by bringing in more distributors and get a percentage of every sale made by your down line.
It is correct to say that you will be working in a network marketing based system where “leveraging on others” is the common motto. Generally, you bring in a network of people to sell MonaVie juices, they sell to their friends, and their friends sell to their friends. Let us get down to more details about the MonaVie scam now.
The Sad Truth
Unfortunately, your fellow friends of the public do not agree with MonaVie and most it’s claims. We shall go over each point briefly to validate this. Firstly, it would be nice for you to know that the price you pay for each bottle of the drink costs $45. A one month supply is about $180.
A brief summary of some sad facts of the MonaVie scam:
1) MonaVie is not purchasing their Açai berries from Sambazon (source of the best berries)
2) The drink is not made up of 100% freeze dried Açai. They use a blend of Açai puree and freeze dried Açai
3) Independent distributors can abuse the system and try to recruit endless representatives
Most people get burned by point 3 because in reality it isn’t that easy to recruit people who can work the same system to your liking.
There is still some light at the end of the tunnel. If you really want to profit easily but with some element of direct marketing involved, doing an instant commission sale is the trend for today. You would not even bother about the MonaVie scam topics once you discover this.
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Monavie Overview
October 1, 2008 by snakeoilbuster
The scheme: Typical multi-level marketing company, using the guise of “direct sales” to make the business look like a legitimate retail venture. The reality is that it’s nothing more than a recruiting scheme like Usana, Mary Kay, Arbonne, PrePaid Legal, Primerica, Herbalife, United First Financial, and so many other companies that make big promises to members, but provide little actual reward to 99%.
The founder: Dallin Larsen founded MonaVie. He used to work for Usana Health Sciences, and actually helped found Usana. He helped grow the associates to 70, 000 and helped make up the compensation plan. Then he ditched out and started his own company
The product: Acai berry juice plus other fruit juices. I like to call this “magic berry juice.” It supposedly cures whatever ails you and there’s never been anything quite like it on the market. If you study multi-level marketing companies, you will see that one very common characteristic is some unique/special product that is hard to find and has never been offered before. It typically has magical powers and is so powerful that it justifies a high retail price. In reality, the high prices are not because the products are so good, but because there are so many levels of the pyramid which must be paid commission.
The cost: A bottle of the berry juice runs around $40. If you drink the recommended amounts, the bottle will last you about a week, which means the cost is about $5.71 a day. That’s an expensive way to get your vitamins. Excessively so.
The compensation: Here is the detail to the MonaVie compensation plan. Like a typical MLM, it’s got a complicated points - commission - points - bonus - override - incentive system. You build two legs to your downline, and qualify for commission based on the shorter leg. That longer leg? Too bad. Bonuses stop wherever the shorter leg ends. You can usually be sure of one thing in MLMs: The more complicated the pay plan, the less it benefits the members. And oooh… you can have up to “four business centers.” That means more purchases of products by you in order to get your commissions!
The product scam: There are apparently no scientific studies that prove the alleged benefits of the MonaVie juice. There’s no denying that there is nutritional value to the juice, just like any other juice. It’s the extraordinary health benefits claimed that are suspect. (Of course, the company disclaims any knowledge of cures claimed by the “independent” distributors.)
The recruiting scam: As with other MLMs, the company’s focus appears to be on recruiting, rather than retailing the product. Of course, the product is integral to the scheme. Without it, MonaVie could easily be called a pyramid scheme. With the product, we’re not supposed to identify the company as an endless chain recruiting scheme or pyramid scheme. And until the FTC decides to enforce the laws against pyramiding, many will believe that a company like MonaVie is perfectly legal and legitimate.
The commission scam: In order to qualify for commissions, a distributor must order at least 4 bottles of juice per month, which amounts to about $130 plus shipping and taxes. This is a common part of the MLM game: You can’t get your commissions unless you buy a minimum amount of their products. MLM supporters say “Well of course you’ll be selling the products so that minimum purchase isn’t a problem.” The truth is that very little actual retailing goes on in these companies because consumers are smart. The required purchases are usually not sold to a legitimate retail customer.
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Hi,
I'm very concerned about the paragraph saying that the independent study, performed by Dr. Alexander G. Schauus on the benefits of Monavie that every Monavie distributor across the country references in their presentations has be declared by The National Council Against Health Fraud as a completely invalid study. To be responsible for this, I am asking the author to attach supporting citation, preferably a published one. I haven't been able to find relevant articles in NCAHF's site.
Indeed, the monavie co. is a pyramid scheme. This scheme is for the uplines (early birds) to suck up the down lines' money in a very short period. One of the top line happily told that, he receive USD 100 thousands come into his saving account like the money fall from sky. He claimed that he is not doing anything or giving any service to his down lines. Can you imagine what scheme is that?
Do you think the product is natural? Where do they find tons of acai berries and other fruits to supply to the whole world everyday? I truely agreed of you it is just a puree and normal fruit juice. And it costs for $40 US dollars. Infact, the natural plants would need sometimes to grow! Be more sensitive to the foods we are consuming.
Think of it, I dare not risk my life to experiment the drink! My mom claimed that after drinking for the first few boxes of monavie, her arthritis seems improved. Unfortunately, subsequently she said the drink has no more effective. The pains come back. The up line that earned thousands spread his monavie gospel to others as the drinks can cure "Cancer" and "it is a proven product".
I would like to share my thoughts to all consumers in the world. My findings have shown to me "whole some foods" are the safe foods to consume.
I couldn't believe some distributors could even quote God's words to promote this product. How sure are you that you are selling a God's proven products? I certainly believe you care more to your own pocket that the thousands of dollars fill up your pocket.
i bet you hae no arms or hands snake man hahaha
sorry i dype so slow but i had no arms now have arms and hands so i can type just bc i drink the juice soo hahaha! you rong!
In general all pyramid schemes are evil. You'll have no idea where you are in the chain, and they keep it that way so that you'll never know the true lack of potential these business opportunities really have.
I also drink the juice for my hands. I was beginning to have some stiffness in my fingers when my cousin turned me on to the "Active" juice and with in a week my hands felt alot better. I no longer had to run hot water over my hands first thing in the morning. I have been on the juice for about 3 months and love it. I have several family members who are on it and are having the same effects - it works. I dont anyone who gets all the fruits and veggies they need each day plus a little more to help with either joints or your heart. I would much rather take this product then to take dozen of pills which I know so many who do that very thing every day. If you sell it great for you - it certainly isnt a get rich quick plan but for most just try a bottle for a week maybe two and see if you dont feel a difference. The only way is to try it for your self..
As the email before me - Cheers to better health
Hate to burst your bubble, but these products do work. I was a skeptic myself until I drank the juice. I can't say that the juice cured me, but I can say that before I drank it... I had SEVERE TMJ and needed surgery. It was to the point I couldnt open my mouth. After drinking it for a week, my TMJ pain was less and now it is nonexistant! It's not crap, they arent bogus claims. The juice is working in the lives of people that I know that consume it. I dont make any money from MonaVie. I don't sell it. I just consume it. And I BELIEVE that it does have natural healing properties. Way better than the stupid ### synthetic ### they have out. I think the FDA is in a conspiracy with the drug companies and insurance companies.
Cheers to better health.
Thank you for doing research into this company. I had cancer two years ago and am now CANCER FREE, thanks to GOD and not to Mona Vie!
I was in the hospital due to fact I was so sick from the Chemo/Radiation treatments and my nurse in the hospital approached me about Mona Vie and wanted me to sign up and she stated Mona Vie would cure my cancer.
My sister did some research, and decided this would not be a lucative company for anyone wanting to make serious money as the nurse stated, without huge investments from your own funds and my sister stated no honest company will make false claims about curing cancer, add, arthritis, diabetes, the list goes on.
Just wanted to thank you again for posting the truth about Mona Vie.
I've been approached by MonAvie distributors. What turns me off is the 2-leg, short-leg bonus approach, and that Dallin Larsen is touted as having started several successful companies, but the rep can't tell me which ones. Red flag! Also, Randy Schroeder, now-infamous MLM-jumper (NuSkin > Agel > Monavie) is now involved. That leaves little credibilty for Randy or Monavie. Any company worth it's salt would want to distance themselves from Randy. How much of a signing bonus did he get THIS time?
As a product it's quite expensive, so it's not a feasible retail product. Without a feasible retail product, what's left is a pyramid, albeit a camouflaged pyramid, but a pyramid nonetheless - just like Agel.
"Finally, Monavie is a sinking ship. Across all of its markets, Monavie distributors are dropping out of the program at an alarmingly fast rate..."
LOL
Monavie is up by 900% 4000 new distributors A DAY!
Corporations are looking for hand outs. Mona Vie is looking for write offs.
Nice try though LOL
Terrible experience
Make No Mistake: If you live in the Eugene Oregon area and have recently been hit hard by the downturn in the economy, MonaVie Blue Diamond Executives, Todd Bishop and Amy Freeman, want to meet with you. BEWARE!
The Todd Bishop - Amy Freeman Team is VERY good at telling you exactly what you want to hear with respect to MonaVie and success: That is, you have a chance to regain your life and then some with MonaVie.
Think again... Since Todd Bishop and Amy Freeman began promoting the MonaVie Business in 2005, they have personally left a small town worth of people (businesses) behind with no support (nearly 2000 people/families). The vast majority of these businesses are either dead or are dying with no hope of ever producing a positive income.
If you think Todd Bishop and Amy Freeman want to help you with YOUR best interests in mind, think again. The only interest they have in mind for you is the VERY VERY VERY small possibility that you might become a producer in their business. Once they find out you can't/won't produce, they'll leave you hanging and will most likely never talk to you again, just like the vast majority of people they bring into the MonaVie business.
Todd Bishop and Amy Freeman KNOW that every new MonaVie distributor has an EXTREMELY small chance of ever making any real income from the opportunity, yet they both routinely lie in their presentations and claim achieving success is almost assured.
It is this LIE that the MonaVie Business Opportunity will work for everyone that will eventually catch up with Todd Bishop and Amy Freeman. As MonaVie grows and the Federal Government starts to take notice (I believe the government already is taking notice), the government will take notice of these statements and someone will need to account for them. At some point, the State and/or Federal Government is going to be talking to Amy Freeman and Todd Bishop about FRAUD.
This is only the beginning... Monavie, LLC (Monavie, Inc) gives their distributors, representatives, FAR to much latitude in terms of how these people represent their company and the business opportunity. By in a large, MonaVie distributors falsely represent MonaVie the Product and MonaVie the Business Opportunity.
Company Business Name: MonaVie
Country of complaint: United States
Address: 10855 South River Front Parkway
Website: monaviemall.com
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
i drank the juice now many years i dont make alot of money but i know i will i pray togod and he told me i hav e to pursevir danny agrees with gods words and tod me to keep drinking too . all you haters who cnat make it aer not working hard enough. if fi i keep sharing and drankign i will be in the top 50%. danny says i'm close. very close!
I feel great about myself... and as I see it... most people can't hack it in MLM. You must be dedicated, self driven and self motivated. You can't sit on your ### and hope that it happens for you. And yes, the success rate is low, because most people QUIT. Ever worked at a car dealership... know what the turnover rate is there? Ever done telephone sales? Know what the turnover rate is there? Ever done door to door cold call sales? Know what the turnover rate is there? I've done ALL of the above. I've been screamed at to my face, screamed at over the phone, called ugly names... when all I'm doing is making an honest living. Most people can't hack it in sales, because there are so many UGLIES out there like yourself that can't hack it and then dish it out on the successful ones. You are the failure... not Amy and Todd. Perhaps you should be doing something mindless like sweeping up garbage at the local mall. Or perhaps a prison guard or somewhere that you can take out all of your hostility. YOU control YOU. Not Todd and Amy. All they can do is give you the tools to be successful. If you aren't successful, its not their fault. They didn't set out to see you fail. It was in their BEST interest for you to succeed. That's what MLM is ALL ABOUT! And the product is based on changing peoples lives... one at a time and putting money back into the Amazon where it came from to HELP preserve the area. This way, it can help people MAKE money and help people be healthier by spreading the word one by one. Besides the best way to market is word of mouth! But you dont need an explanation. You're looking for someone to point a finger at... keep pointing. There are four more pointing right back at you! '
Long Live MonaVie!
These People Alienate all their friends, family, co-workers and everyone runs when they see them coming. Is that worth it? Is the measure of success how much money you make, while at the same time pushing friends and family aside? Check the divorce rate among Team members whose spouse doesn't want to participate. It's staggering. If this product is so good for you, put it on a shelf at the local gorcery store and let people decide for themselves. I personally don't need someone telling me what I have to do. Do you? I own my own business and when I walk away from a job well done, people thank me and tell me I can use them as a reference. It's not about being bitter towards MLM's. It's about feeling good inside. How do you feel about yourself?
Either you can hack it with Multi-level Marketing or you cant. Clearly the person that posted this blog is bitter that the business wasnt handled to them... like all businesses, you have to work for it. You get what you give, so get your lazy a$$ off the couch and try to succeed or dont, but stop whining about it! Last year I made $74, 000 in MonaVie... btw.
Man I am in this business over 4 months already and how excited I am. I am only a star1000 that doesn't mean I am making a whole lot of money. I only make what I deserve and I beleive I knew how much I am making every week. Some week I don't make any money but that got nothing to do with the company or the people. It's cause I put in and people in my team put in whiners and not winners. People that do something make something people that do nothing make nothing. I can see that through my pear list.
What I understand in this business is that 90% of people don't make or hardly making anything. Wow that is amazing isn't it? Well it doesn't mean that this is a bad business. It mean there are 10% who are making something. Now those that are making something get their success from the 10% that are doing something and are making something. These sucessful people don't make nothing from the 90% that are thought to be in business but are in it just for the record. Now if just half of those percentage start to wake up and change the way they think then we can cut these number in half.
Now from what that is said I beleive in this world there are bad and good, light and dark, neg and pos. If we look at the college system very simular to the direct selling system. College is a system to get those that want a career achieve something for themself. You pay for college and you get knowledge from leader which are professors. Now if you go to class or seminar and sleep what do the professor do? Pretty much nothing, or do they care for you? No and let be realistic we are taught that go to college and get that bfa and get a job. While we know that 90% people fail in this career system and only 10% succeed. Asked yourself a question why?
Because they are people who don't have a dream and don't know what they are there for. Most of them get bad influent by friends and other colleage. So they slack through and hope that all they need is a bfa and they all set. No some of them drop out while owing student loan, well lets feel pity for them? Hell no they are their own responsibility, they chose to quit and ruine they chance because they just following their mom advice. So we all know that people who do their homework will get something out of life, but are not garanteed they get what they want. They just need to learn as they go and make use of something that come and never be lazy.
one more thing we all know that when you pay all that money to a tuition and when you quit we know that they don't give our money back. Same with any business regardless if you are in a traditional or mlm once you put your energy into it you can't get it back, and no one will be responsible for your decision. Live with it and move on is what I say. The different is I am not good in math but I go to the math lab all the time, and my friend is not good too but he chose to go to a party instead. I end up getting a B and him an F. If you know my drift don't take pitty. Live the life of responsibility...
I agree that MonaVie is the best thing that has ever happened to me! I am not making the big money yet, but it is starting to catch fire now with folks, once
they start hearing what this product can do for your health and wealth!
I worked for an international airline for almost 20 years and what do I have to show for it. Those people at the top, I think there were 5 CEO's during that 20 year span that did not care about us and kept taking and taking from us!
I have not ever seen a company as generous and with high standards and high ethics as MonaVie in my life of 55 years. I have been around and I have to say that I am blessed to be part of this company!
Ah! America, the great country where one can rant and rave and express opinions. What I must suggest is that one does more research before they explode on sites like these. Todd and Amy seem like they have it together. They are taking steps in this struggeling economy to better themselves and hopefully those that they touch. The only way to fail at an opportunity like this is if in fact you do not put in the work. It is shameless to blame another for your personal failure or even to be mad at them because they are successful. We are all just 2 people away from living the dream. What is your dream? What will you do to get there? Don't be part of the angry mob, be a leader, stand for something and if you can't please do us all a favor and disconnect your keyboard. The world is tired of hearing about hate and anger. Let us unite and rise to victory!
I couldn't disagree more. MonaVie doesn't give the Distributors too much lattitude at all. The P&Ps are clear and and Distributors are expected to adhere to them. If they don't then they are dealt with. If Todd and Amy are doing something wrong then by all means, send your complaints to the compliance department at MonaVie.
Also, please don't go quoting numbers that you have no sources for, you're just making up crap. How can 2 people leave all of these people hanging and what do they have to do with their success in the MonaVie business anyway. If 2000 people are devistated then they should not be in ANY business, they should get a job, they are not entrepreneurs. Can't they order their own brochures, DVDs, CDS and product? Can't they share it with the people I choose to share it with, what to Todd and Amy have to do with any of that.
We all know who wrote this post, the same 2 people that have created several MonaVie and Todd Bishop and Amy Freeman hate blogs and the same 2 people that have posted as dozens and dozens of different people on a bunch of other blogs doing what they do best, smear campaigns. You're failure is your own fault, not MonaVie's and not Todd or Amy's. I would strongly suggest you get a job at the Safeway get on with your life because you certainly can't make it in MLM, and probably not in engineering either.
shady stuff, to say the least