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epocheu.com review: recurring charges on credit card 56

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epocheu.com is the billing agency for webcams.com, an internet based sex/chat site. If a customer is unwary, a 1 day trial reverts to a monthly "membership" fee of $39.98. They do not take particular care to check that the "customer" is of legal age to use their "services", nor to verify that the use of the given credit card is authorized. My young son got scammed this way, at a total charge -to me- of
$159.92. My phone call to the company resulted in no help, but a lecture on "speaking to my son".
They refute that their business is illegal and/or unethical, and will refuse recompense.

I would like assistance in putting a stop to such practises.

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leonard whittles
Aug 09, 2008 2:58 am EDT

charging my account i dont know what for

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chris davies
Aug 11, 2008 12:02 pm EDT

please cancel my subscription...

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Derrick Venners
Aug 18, 2008 11:09 am EDT

Charging my credit card for porno website. Charges I did not make.

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monica fields
Aug 18, 2008 12:01 pm EDT

I AGREE W/THE COMPANY. HOW CAN U SAY THEY SCAMMED HIM WHEN HE GAVE OUT UR CREDIT CARD NFO. U PPL R HILARIOUS. UR SON NEEDS A GOOD SPANKING

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Candace Venners
Aug 18, 2008 7:07 pm EDT

This company is charging credit cards and it is a porno site. If anyone has had this problem please cal l their company ..The # is [protected].. They took money from us and how they got our credit card # is unknown But I will Be Calling the BBB on them also. Candace Venners

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alan druery
Aug 23, 2008 3:13 am EDT

I no longer want you to take money from my cedit card account . If i have signed up for a web site then cancell it for i no longer want it . Every time i have payed in the past i have not looked at it so please stop taking charges for something that i dont look at IF THIS DOSE NOT STOP i will have to close my card then you will get nothing anyway

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pedro garcia
Aug 24, 2008 8:27 am EDT

please cancel my subscription... you are charging my account four times a month
thank you

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William Smith Jr
Aug 30, 2008 3:15 pm EDT

Need to know what the charge to my credit card is for,

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joshua kathey
Sep 09, 2008 9:00 am EDT

i don't have any clue what this website is all about? all i know is the charge was two payments of 29.95 dollars and my bank statement linked it to you guys. can you guys find out if it is you or not?

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tyrone watty
Sep 15, 2008 1:31 pm EDT

i was charged39.98 for nothing please give me my money back this is sad thank u

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Antoine Wongus
Sep 16, 2008 7:29 am EDT

Do not take money out of my account. If it happens again I will prosecute?

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bent sennels
Sep 17, 2008 6:43 am EDT

hello!
I dont understand why you take money from my account i have delete all my membership so stop that now, And if you dont do that then i have a new card.
Regards.
Bent

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Mash
Sep 24, 2008 12:34 am EDT

I wish to complain.will you please stop.taking money out my account. You have taken a lot of money from my credit card for no reason. I don't know what you are taking money for, if you dont stop taking the money, I will have to take further actions and sue your company.

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matthew
Sep 25, 2008 4:09 pm EDT

can u stop my subscription

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Discostrew
Sep 28, 2008 11:36 am EDT

It's been four month in row that this company is billing me for nothing.

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Christine Hartley
Sep 29, 2008 8:47 am EDT

Someone from your company is charging my account
for a membership fee I guess but I have not join anything because I can't afford it I woul like for it to stop please. I cancel my debit card because of this.

Thank You
Christine Hartley

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michael sladkowski
Sep 29, 2008 9:20 am EDT

credit card charge on 5th august why and what for

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Adam
Oct 03, 2008 7:14 pm EDT

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JOHN
Oct 06, 2008 11:27 am EDT

epocheu.com charged £18.49 from my account for unkown reasons

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Garfield Lamont
Oct 07, 2008 6:29 am EDT

For the last couple of months you guys have been charging my account, what are you gharging my account for? I'd definitely like an explaination!

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kelly canty
Oct 07, 2008 1:44 pm EDT

I have noticed that for several months now that this company has been withdrawing around £20 each month from my account, but I have no idea who they are. i tried to cancel the payment through my bank but they say they cannot see the pending payment on the system. Please advise as to how I go about stopping the payments from being withdrawn from my account.

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paul
Oct 08, 2008 7:20 am EDT

i agree i have the same on my statement from my bank that i got charged from a company from Epocheu.com that they taking money out of my account i want to cancel this what ever or who whatever is charging me

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brandon sills
Oct 10, 2008 3:19 am EDT

YOU and your company took money out of my account when i terminated my account with you guys awhile ago so please stop taking money from my account or you guys can replace the money when i sue your company for it would be nice if you put the 30 some odd dollars back that you stole from me. please conact me and ill give you my info but you owe me...

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i artaza
Oct 10, 2008 7:10 am EDT

Need to know what the charge to my credit card is for, ref [protected] GB

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Damien Jodray
Oct 13, 2008 7:32 pm EDT

you charged 73.05 to my debit card and i do not know why. i would like these charges credited back to my card immediately. i do not know who you are and don't appreciate you taking my money. i would like to know who made these charges. Thank you

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benjamin bourgeois
Oct 17, 2008 3:39 am EDT

Hello,
around one year ago, i suscribe a trial for a month at a x site and pay my trial by your payment system.
Today the transaction of 29.95€ per month continue and i ask you to stop this, please.
I do not suscribe for such a duration.
And now this is a real trouble for my count and my family.

Waiting your answer.

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john seavers
Oct 17, 2008 2:35 pm EDT

my card # for the credit is, [protected], i forgot to include it in my complaint.
thanks

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Ollie Lynn Little
Oct 20, 2008 10:21 am EDT

I never authorized you to take any charges from my credit card. I never even gave you the number. This will be reported to the proper authorities and be dealt with as this is credit card theft. You have 24 hrs to credit this charge of $35.95 back to my card

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fakhri mabrouk
Oct 25, 2008 7:53 am EDT

hello i was charged the first of october 2008 for 29.95 usd and i dont know why i just want to know in which site was this... to make sure that that was not a site that i cancelled or something like that thank you.

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PHAN NGOC DUNG
Oct 26, 2008 9:55 pm EDT

you charged my money from August, Septemper, Oct '08 to my debit card and i do not know why. i would like these charges credited back to my card immediately. i do not know who you are and don't appreciate you taking my money. i would like to know who made these charges. Thank you. Please send mail to me if you checked result!

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ian gisby
Oct 29, 2008 11:26 am EDT

EPOCHEU.COM are taking money from my account and i want it back

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Miguel Castellano Cano
Nov 05, 2008 11:40 am EST

Hi! This is Miguel from Spain. First of all sorry about my english.

I agree with the post. I have just called my bank worried about some charges in my account. Every month since five months ago, EPOCHEU.COM take money from my account. The amounts oscilates between 27, 51 to 31, 05€ and I want my money back too. I don't know who they are, and I think I never bought anything in their web (I was looking for it and i didn't find it).

What can I do for get my money back?

Thanks.

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krzysztof cwiek
Nov 08, 2008 7:10 am EST

please stop.taking money out my account

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Michael Augustus
Nov 10, 2008 8:46 am EST

You recently were trying to deduct funds from my card when I terminated my membership and would appreciate if you would refrain from doing this into the future. The amount was $29.95. Mike

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david painter
Nov 21, 2008 8:03 am EST

dont bill me again.im not paying this one.you billed me30.25 twice .on 10/26 10/28.this is a mess.please explain

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Claude Engels
Nov 23, 2008 6:32 am EST

subscription number [protected] GB

Just cancell this subscription and confirm this cancellation by mail

Thanks by advance

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ansel gossett
Nov 24, 2008 5:36 pm EST

I would like to know what this charge is for, what company, and accountant number

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Marinus Steyn
Nov 27, 2008 1:24 pm EST

I keep seeing these deductions and I have no Idea what it's for, I want it stopped

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Wolfgang Graber
Nov 28, 2008 5:14 am EST

Cancel this subsription as fast as possible and confirm this cancellation by e-mail !

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rafael quero castanys
Nov 30, 2008 10:33 am EST

buenas tardes,
deseo dar de baja sus cargos en mi tarjeta de crdito visa, pues me son descnocidos.

Con esta fecha doy instrucciones al banco para que no se carguen más en mi tarjeta de credito.
un cordial saludo.

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