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SANFORD BROWN IS A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY DON'T BE FOOLED OR ROBBED, INSTEAD OF THE MA COURSE I SHOULDA PAID THE 600 DOLLARS AND TOOK CNA CLASSES 1PERSON OUT OF EVERY GRADUATING CLASS WILL SUCCEED IS THAT ONE YOU
PROBABLY NOT BUT IS IT WORTH 20, 000 TO TRY
BEEN @ Sanford Brown for six months, after many classes and ten books later I finally realized SB is a business more so than a Institution,
BEFORE YOU ENROLL THERE ARE SOME THINGS YOU SHOULD CONSIDER FIRST
#1 CLASSES ARE ALWAYS CROWDED, IMPOSSIBLE TO LEARN THE CURRICULUM WHEN MOST OF THE INSTUCTORS ARE RECOVERING DRUG ADDICTS
KISS MY ### SANFORD BROWN
#2 WORSE THAN WALMART SB EMBEZELS MONEY FROM IT'S STUDENTS, OVERCHARGES ON BOOKS, TUITION, AND EVEN "LAB FEES" THAT SHOULD ALL BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE COST OF TUITION
#3 SB IS A EOE WHICH IN THIS CASE MEANS THAT GAYS, LESBIANS AND TRANSEXUALS ARE ALL WELCOME TO ENROLL, (NOW UTALKING ABOUT DISRUPTING THE CLASS IF U SEEN A MAN DRESSED AS A WOMAN WOULD U BE ABLE TO FOCUS )
#4 uNDEREDUCATED STAFF, MOST OF THE INSTUCTORS CLAIM TO BE PROFESSIONAL BUT THEY FLIRT WITH THE STUDENTS, THEY ARE SO DISORGANIZED HALF OF THEM DON'T TEACH (INSTRUCT FOR MORE THAN 30 MIN EVEN IF IT'S A 4 HOUR CLASS
#5 THE SCHOOL IN DOWNTOWN PGH IS SO DIRTY THAT AT ONE TIME THERE WAS ROACHES, NO HEAT AS OF YET, IT''S OCTOBER, THE COMPUTERS DON'T WORK AND MOST OF THE TIME THE BATHROOMS ARE IN HORRIBLE CONDITION
AND WITHOUT GETTING PERSONAL THE SCHOOL REALLY IS NOT WORTH THE MINIMUM 20, 000 YOU'LL PAY FOR WHAT SEEMS LIKE A WELFARE CLASS
SO BEFORE U DECIDE TO FURTHER YOUR EDUCATION MAKE A APPT WITH CCAC TO CONFIRM THAT U WILL GET THE EDUCATION THAT YOUR PAYING FOR AND NOT JUST SOME SCRUBS!
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suggestion:do not go here.
I went to the sanford brown northloop location.I went through the whole program for pharmacy technician.The whole time there was a waste.We would start class, at the beginning of each class we were supposed to be provided with books.we would go weeks without them.we had to go to the president of the school to get them, because the director of the pharmacy program kept giving us lies, and bs.I was supposed to come out of it being IV certified, they told us last min that we had to pay $100 for the book.But never received them.when we were supposed to have them for the class.not even when i was about to leave.had to go through a lot of unnecessary crap to get my money back.also with my internship, they would say I was cleared to go.Then a week later I get a call saying I wasn't cleared and I probably won't get credit for my hours that I did that week.Then I would do what they told me I had to do, then they said i was good to go again.So I would go back to my site, then I get another call saying I still wasn't cleared, and that my hours wont count.So I stopped going to my site, the director was supposed to call me when I was good to go again.Didn't hear from her for a week.So i tried calling her, always got voicemail.i left several messages.Then I get a call saying I am considered a dropout! I was furious! i told the lady what was going on, she said they told I never went to my sight.Because I was not cleared.She was shocked when she heard that I had been putting in hours.I told her that i left several messages for the lady to call me.she never did.turned out that i owed more money.but i already took out two loans and also had a grant to pay for my school.at the beginning i was told that everything was paid, and now i owed more money!i was not about to get out another loan to pay them when all i did was get ignored.I would not recommend this school to anyone! they are all about themselves.all they want to do is take your money and not give you what you paid for.you will not recieve a good education from here.I suggest you go somewhere else!
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My girlfriend goes to that school and tells me that they give her home work and test but they don't tell he what to study or explain the work given.
students have dropped out the give a lot of home work be don't explain how it done the teacher want the to only have 2 hours of sleep.
One of the teachers told a student that had a 4 year old child to study and don't and not to give her child time a to let her child to do his own stuff. "he told that parent to tell her child it's mommy's time I don't have time for you".
The teacher's last is MR.Garcia.
Sanford Brown South campus has an racist for a surgical technology program director. She has an associates degree, and has not even completed college algebra. Her goal is to intimidate not educate students. DO NOT ENROLL at this school. The cost is in excess of 2o thousand dollars. You can take the same program at a community college for much less. This is a definite rip off
Should be called &Financial Aid Liars&
Was granted full tuition in FAFSA, Pell Grants, Workforce Grant, and had a low balance to pay. Made clear that before enrolled, they would grant me a Stafford Loan for the maximum amount. Since the State of NJ pays one half tuition in Sept, then the other half in Dec. The school got the Sept payments, and decided they were going to take the money (they were given to disburse to me) out of my Stafford Loan to complete the tuition. And then pocket the rest of the money the State would give them in December. Leaving me with a Stafford Loan payment, and they earned almost double to tuition from stealing almost a total of $25, 000, when tuition is only 13, 950! Contacting the Dept. of Ed, Labor, and Better Business Bureau. These people will lie until they are blue in the face, and do anything to get you to sign on the dotted line and pocket your money. Also, may I add, they are extremely prejudice. I am half Puerto Rican, but look 100 percent Caucasian, and I saw how they treated me because I did not look like a minority. They catered to students of Spanish Descent, and African Americans. First time ever I have been discriminated against and looked down on because they automatically assumed that I was white therefore I should have money. Do not go to this school. I wish I had taken the terrible reviews I had read seriously before I enrolled.
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rip offs that run USB accounts
To anyone out there who is considering attending Sanford Brown College or Utrasound Technology Institute, please run the other way. This school is not a legitimate school and are rip offs with UBS accounts. They cannot offer legal courses that allow you to get licensed when you graduate. The contract is not a college admissions contract, but more like a car...
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Sanford Brown will say whatever they have to, in order to get you to register as a student. Their programs tend to be slightly outdated, specifiaclly their dental assisting program. Their focus is more on technicalities of the state so they can stay open tho they really dont comply as a teaching device. The space offered, student to techer ratio is also something they lie about. i was thrown into classes with people who were just joinin the program so half of my classtime was teching students things i already know. i found my own extern site, which is what they offer. They focus on tedious things that have nothin to do with the education process, such as end of the mod surveys focusing on how you feel about your techers, and even if you complain nothin is ever taken care of! i could seriously go on all day. save youre 14000 dollars and just talk to students there other than myself. they will tell you to run run away!
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Professionalism
This school had recently been the biggest pain of all the school i ever had attented. This by far is the worst school. From the employees, teachers, and students. First, two weeks before i was supposed to start my externship i have found out that i owe money to the due to my funds being taken out earlier from a previous school. Ok no prob but the worst part is nobody had come to at least inform me possibly thru a email maybe then they couldnt explain to me properly of why the funds was taken the head director wasnt exactly being very sympatheic about the situation. She had the nerve to have an attitude. Im sorry but when someone found out they owe at least 2000 and it supposed to be paid off in 2 wks My state of mind was just thinking how the hell im going to pay for this? i have come a long way and completing the school was a big achievement for me and my family. In my opinion, there is a reason why she was made head director and i didnt see none at all, especially no professionalism. Yes i am a student but without us your students they would not be getting paid. Then before we leave for externship, we are supposed to hand in our medical clearance form. I know i had gave it in because my doctor office had made a copy of it and I kno for sure i hand it in. They told me they dont have it mean while mentioning that someone who was working there likes to take files. Its medical form we are supposed to trust the school wit confidential documents.
Now that all taken care of, my next problems was getting answer regarding my clinical site. I feel like im playing phone tags with the career services so called professional people. Its been 2 and a half week...im supposed to be done in another 2 weeks but I havent even got a site yet. They called me ask me question but when i want answer i never get it, i alwys gota go thru 2-3 people just for a simple yes or no. I feel like the price i pay to get my education was not worth it I might as well had went to a 4 yr college...no students shuld be going thru all this obstacle when all this supposed to be taken care of asap. I would never ever recommend this school to anybody. All they care is money and being on time wit your payment. They sdnt care if ur education was sufficent or not. DO NOT GO TO THIS SCHOOL!
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i have never been so discouraged about going to school. its like i finally reached a point in my life i know what i want to do and accomplish until i got in a specific class at sanford brown institute of ft lauderdale and experienced unprofessionalism where the teacher got up and charged toward me and started to yell at the top of her lungs. i asked her a question about a paper she graded and handed back to me in which i didnt fully understand why i got the grand and she responded to me and a rude and direspectful way and talked to me as if i were a child. i let her know i dint appreciate the way she was coming at me and things started to get out of control. we went back and forth until she actually got out of her seat and came charging my way pointing her fingure at me yelling at the top of her lungs. now i feel as if i want to give up on everything i have accomplished because of this one teacher that just changed my thoughts on education. i dont know im just hurt and it really affecting me
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Sanford Brown Institute (SBI) is governed under the parent company Career Education Corporation (CEC). CEC has been in the news constantly over the last several years, including an episode run on 60 Minutes, and has horror stories posted all over the World Wide Web regarding school closures, unethical business practices, deception, fraud, lies, federal government funding, and just about any other ripoff one could imagine relating to this substandard diploma mill of a company who preys on who they fondly like to refer to as "students." CEC is one of many for-profit educational facilities who are currently being investigated by the federal government, due to the fact that these schools are notorious for providing substandard education in return for leaving a student with no education, no job, and nothing else but thousands of dollars to be repaid in student loans. I know; I just attended SBI for a short 6 weeks and have fortunately been able to see through their cheating plot of deceptive lies. After withdrawing, SBI is now in the process of mishandling my federal student loans behind my very nose and has, in my opinion, crossed yet another boundary in their relentless efforts to continue their motto of unethical and deceptive business practices.
I don't care how old or young you are or what any of these for-profit educational facilities tell you, RUN FOR YOUR LIFE! Do not even consider going to one of these diploma mills! If you want to spend 4-5 times the amount of money to sit in a classroom, learn nothing, acquire no useful education or skills, and then expect to get hired by a company who sees Sanford Brown Institute on your resume, forget it. You will be left holding the bag, like many others, with nothing left but a HUGE DEBT to repay, wasted time, and crushed dreams.
Do your research first, please. You deserve better for yourself! We cannot continue to let these proprietary, for-profit leeches rob the federal government and the taxpayers anymore!
Sanford Brown College is a total fake. They view their students as nothing more than dollar signs. They don't care about them at all and don't really care if they are successful or not as long as the college gets their money in the end. The professionalism is a pure joke. They are rude and nasty and I have been dealing with this bull for a while now. I strongly encourage if you are considering this college GO SOMEWHERE ELSE! This school is fake fake fake fake. You will not learn anything and will be unemployed after graduation. I was enrolled in the Medical Assisting diploma program and was told after attending for a semester that I would not qualify for the certification testing. The whole point is to get certified to work in hospitals or clinics or elswhere. Most major employers will not hire you without certification. Something is definitely fishy about this college and I hope that they are exposed. I do not see how a diploma program can cost a student over 16, 000 dollars. This makes no sense at all.
False information
I had just registered to go there. I started a week and a half ago. I can not believe how manipulative those people are. They lie up and down, they do not give you all the facts. I went in yesterday to tell them I was going to withdraw and to stop my student loans, and at first the guy tried to bs his way out of me trying to withdrawl, then he really did a low blow thing.. he used the fact that I had said I was doing this to better my future and my 8 month old sons future.. and he told me that because I was giving up I am a poor mother..
First off I never said I was giving up, I said I was going to find a different school that didn't try to rob $45, 000 out of peoples pockets and second off I work my butt off for a job and support my child just fine.. at least I don't work for a company that has no morals...
They tell you that in order to go into the ultrasound program you have to take the MA program, which is FALSE. They are just trying to collect $14, 500 from each student who is trying to go into the ultrasound program. Then to do the ultrasound program that is another $34, ooo. But what they don't tell you is that they are not accredited, so when you graduate you can't sit for your boards, and nobody is going to hire you without being certified.
my best advice.. do NOT waste your time or money going to this school!
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You should call these guys. Apparently they have helped others defrauded by ultrasound schools. http://www.kcrlegal.com/helping-victims-of-trade-school-scams.aspx
This is formerly Gibbs College and a good ripoff program.
I was taken and let down by sanford brown (formerly ultrasound diagnostic school)
I lived in Chicopee Falls, Mass before moving to Nevada. This school has let me down big time. I graduated top of all of the classes that were in there at the time I went (from July 1999 to March 2000) when it was still called UDS - Ultrasound Diagnostic School. It then became Sanford Brown Institute.
Before I moved to Nevada I was told that the career services dept. of Sanford Brown could help me get a job no matter where I moved. That is NOT true.
The following is my exact situation and what happened to me...
I lived 27 years of my life taking care of 3 ill family members full time. When they died I was a 42 year old woman with no skills and no experience. I went and talked to Sanford Brown reps (then it was called Ultrasound Diagnostic School) and I told them I needed a promise that their school was NOT bogus because going there for Medical Assistant training would be my only chance at getting an education and job skills and that my life and future depended on the school's validity, accreditation and training skills. They told me countless times they had acceptable accreditation. They did not. Their accreditation is not recognized by the AMA (American Medical Association) or anyone else. I know because I checked.
I was told by the facilty of UDS that I could become a certified Medical Assistant. This is not true because the school does not have the correct accreditation. The accreditation they hold allows you to become ONLY a registered Medical Assistant. Being a registered Medical ssistant means absolutely NOTHING in the medical world.
I graduated from UDS (Ultrasound Diagnostic School - NOW called Sanford Brown University, in 2000. My grade point average was so much higher than 4.0 that they had to conform to educational standards and knowck my GPA down to the highest of 4.0 that is recognized. I graduated at the top of all classes that were there at the time. I gave the graduation speech. I graduated feeling somewhat "hopeful."
I found there were very few jobs in the Springfield, MA area for Medical Assistants unless you graduated from an actual college training program with an associates degree. So I moved here to Henderson, Nevada, where they were supposed to have a high demand for medical assistants. I have not been able to find work as a medical assistant here either!
The training that UDS aka Sanford Brown provided was useless. They always skipped over all of the procedures in the books that we should have been learning and told us we'd learn it all on the job-sites! That is NOT true! They expect you to already know these procedures when you get a job. When I was in school for those 7 months, there were welfare girls there solely so they could continue getting their welfare checks. They had no plans on learning a career. And if they failed, the welfare system paid them to repeat the courses as many times as it took. They disrupted the classes daily. We had several teachers abandon us and the school and quit during the middle of our courses. We were left without teachers and eventually had substitutes. We had instructors who spent the entire class time talking about their personal lives and love relationships. One in particular Miss Heather Ruggerio did this almost on a day to day basis. Then one day she up and left and never gave notice and left us with no teacher for at least a week and a half to two weeks until they got another teacher in to substitute!There was no consistency in anything in that school.
In 2004 I almost became homeless because of my inability to find work as a Medical Assistant. I am broke. I lost my car so I have no means to get around and look for work and here in Nevada they want you to have a car because the office personnel are tired of dealing with employees with transportation issues. On top of it all I had to file banckruptcy. I am financially broke, I am spiritually and mentally broke and my heart is broke because the teachers and school reps promised me they were on the up and up, they promised me written letters of reccomendation, and all I got was taken! I have lost my self-esteem, my confidence and my self-worth.
I NEED A LAWYER PRO BONO or one that will file a civil action. My life was destroyed by that school. After my family members died I only had enough money to go to school for one year so I told them my life literally depended on the validity of their school and training. They failed me and my life is in ruins.
And my mentor, Ms Terri (Ward) Wyman (whom I looked up to and trusted) failed me most of all because I brought all of my concerns about the school to her attention numerous times throughout the year telling her I was thinking about transferring to Porter and Chester (who had the correct accreditation) but she and Katherine Dearborn (the female dean at the time) would reel me right back in and convince me to stay telling me one time that 'because I was the the top student, that if I left the school, they were afraid everyone else would follow and leave too.'
All of my teachers, especially Mrs. Terri (Ward) Wyman, Mrs. Debbie Fish, Miss Carrie Mack and Miss Stephanie (Merrick) Bogosian told me they would give me letters of references since I asked and since I was moving so far away. I never got one single letter of reference. They lied. All of my resume references were the teachers at Sanford Brown on Cadwell Dr. in Springfield. But recently in late 2008 my sister, in Massachusetts, called me to tell me she drove by the school and that they had closed down. It's no wonder I wasn't getting any call backs for interviews..they were probably checking my references and finding they didn't exist! I have a list of hundreds of places here in Nevada where I applied for jobs. I can not get work and lost ALL of my references when they closed that school down! I'm at a loss as to what to do. My life has suffered greatly from what that school did to me...all of the lies, the deception.
That school was there for one purpose only - to make money from the federal student grants. The more students they dragged in - they better - FOR THEM! But me - I was taken by them, screwed over big time! They didn't care about you or me or any of the other students there. They cared about the money!
A lot of others who went there must be experiencing the same problems. I can't understand why no one else from, Ludlow, Springfield and Chicopee, Massachusetts have come forward.
Jeannette
Henderson (formerly Chicopee Falls, MA), Nevada
U.S.A.
Thank you so much!
https://predatorystudentlending.org/cases/sweet-v-devos/
Thank you so much! I pray for victory in this experience
There is a class action lawsuit go to studentaid.gov and look into it here as well https://predatorystudentlending.org/cases/sweet-v-devos/
So, it’s 2023 and this is a never ending TRAGEDY! I cried all day today over the phone to all kinds of educational depts that could not assist me with anything…I even looked up the lawsuit against UDS Sanford brown Eugene who ever the hell that is and found that they were sued. “Where the heck was I when this went down bcuz I was scammed too?” No credits no certifications no proof I existed at this school for an entire year! Just a graduate pic from 2000. If there are still ppl on here starting a civil suit or involved in it here’s my email nkspen41@gmail.com…
I am so serious! My whole life has been ruined 😡
I can’t attend any school to better my life. My credit is in HELL BcuZ of these frauds! To be told “pay it and move on by the DOE today was disheartening discouraging and felt like I was once again stomped on. I cried just cried while talking to every school official I could get over the phone. HESC was the worst offender. I did get a few “I’m so sorry you went thru this I wish but we can’t help yous”. This is disgusting. Again if anyone is involved in anything civil please PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE CONTACT ME VIA EMAIL. Nkspen41@gmail.com…
My typos are the result of how distraught I have been. 2022 and this tragedy still haunts my life to the day. I’m discouraged so lost, all I wanted to do is make a better life for myself doing something I grew to love, and that’s taking care of others. Now I can’t get pass the level I’m on without more education. I’m denied a future bcuz of these con artists. UDS IN NYC ON IRVING PLACE WAS A SCAM! I’m in debt with no proof that I even attended this sham school. I do t exist. I’m a nobody accountable for monies that I can’t afford to pay back, which has me sinking with the credit borough. My whole life has been a struggle, not being able to level up and do better. 😢😢😢
I’m in the same situation. I attended the school in 1996 and it’s still on my credit. I’m trying to get it forgiven. The school was called ultrasound diagnostic school and it wasn’t accredited. Please if you have any info about the school or a class action suit email me at kmabd0825@yahoo.com. Thanks!
I graduated from the Springfield MA site in 1999 with a 4.0 GPA. Also couldn't find a job. Didn't even get my certificate from them since I owed them like $2000 after the federal loan. My credit is still in the toilet and until now I hadn't even heard about a lawsuit. We all definitely should've been included and at least have our loans forgiven. I need to figure out how to file for a loan forgiveness somehow.
Good Morning All,
I emailed the Editor of the Chronicle of Higher Education stating an almost exact Complaint like one that got settled Legally in July 2000, against the "OWNER" of UDS, now Sanford Brown, called Whitman Education Group - $7.3 Million. Below is MY Scenerio, and email to them on [protected]
Good morning,
I am a graduate of The Ultrasound Diagnostic School in Elmsford, NY. I attended this School from November 1990, until May 1992. The program was a one (1) year curriculum, the first nine (9) months were of evening Didactic Training in a classroom, and the last three (3) months, were fulltime days doing Clinical scanning on patients in an hospital or outpatient setting.
During the 9 months of classroom training, which turned into thirteen (13) months, due to Teachers leaving & under trained staff taking over, we began our clinical training in February 1992. Clinical was set for 3 months, however, some had to stay longer due to Teacher absence, which moved our Final Exam back until May 1992. We were All told we would be hired by the Clinical facilities to which we gave our "Free labor" to Monday to Friday. That NEVER happened, nor were we able to find employment because No one hired you without being A Registered Diagnostic Ultrasonographer, which was someone that had enough training hours, 2200 to be exact, to be able to sit for your Registry/Boards. And therefore the exam/Registry was Vital, that's what you went to school for, AND at This School because they Guaranteed your being hired. My student loan of $6300, for this education, was not able to be repaid at that time, so I took advantage of the 10 years of forbearance we were allowed. In those 10 years, I was not able to find employment in that field due to lack of being Registered in the field. My student loan had earned interest, and in 2000 it was taken over and consolidated by Sallie Mae, and the amountwas $10k and change. Fast forward to 2014, Sallie Mae became Navient. From the time of consolidation in 2000 until present, the amount of my payements is well over $20k paid, on a $6300 original loan.
In 2009, I had requested my school transcripts from The Ultrasound Diagnostic School and came to find out that they had CLOSED, and were NOW owned by Sanford and Brown, out of Florida. It took some time to get these because they had NO RECORD of me upon them acquiring the school. I was needing those records/credits so I could transfer them to another educational institution towards my degree - those credits, unfortunately, were NOT ACCEPTABLE to any educational institution. Upon receipt of my transcript, the dates were NOT correct either.
I was Completely Disgusted at this "Sham of a School.
In 2018, I was on the internet trying to Research anything on Schools that improperly conducted education with false hopes and the responsibility of the loan that had FAR EXCEEDED the amount currently showing. I contacted the Department of Education, and was able to fill out a Borrowers Defense application, to allow them to get the facts for us and see about obsolvecense of this loan, which again as I stated was paid almost 4 times over.
It has taken them until this past Tuesday, August 26th, 2020, to decline my application. They are not CLEAR as to why, but have NOT acknowledged The Ultrasound Diagnostic School in ANY part of it, they refer to Sanford and Brown, the school who bought it, remember, the one that could NOT find proper, or any, transcripts on me, and had incorrect dates.
I am reaching out to you, because I have been again, researching this Ultrasound Diagnostic School to find out if anyone else has undergone this same or similar situation - And then I saw your article on the Lawsuit. Could you possibly advise me on where I can turn to for help, I have NEVER found employment in the Field of Ultrasound, because my credentials are Null and void for both Registry Exam taking, and credits NOT credible, yet I have to CONTINUE to pay well over the School loan amount.
I look forward to hearing from anyone of you on how you are/were able to get this helped, and if anyone has fought legally - The Department of Education feels I do NOT qualify for a Loan discharge.
So ANYONE out there with ANYTHING regarding how to resolve this I welcome,
Thank
Jacqueline
Hello, my name is Nicole Spencer. I attended this sham school in 1999 and fake graduated in 2000. This school was located in NYC on Irving place in Manhattan. I’m reading everyone’s story and it’s the same as mine. I also was told by the DOE I didn’t qualify for loan discharge. One Person said to me “pay it and move on”! I haven’t been able to “pay it and move on”! I’m still to this day, at a lost on how so many of us can be scammed like this, and still held accountable for these loans. I have no credits no certification no proof I even attended this place. But I have debt over ten grand that says I did something somewhere? How is this even possible? I too am looking for help.
Hello, my name is Nicole Spencer. I attended this sham school in 1999 and fake graduated in 2000. This school was located in NYC on Irving place in Manhattan. I’m reading everyone’s story and it’s the same as mine. I also was told by the DOE I didn’t qualify for loan discharge. One Person said to me “pay it and move on”! I haven’t been able to “pay it and move on”! I’m still to this day, at a lost on how so many of us can be scammed like this, and still held accountable for these loans. I have no credits no certification no proof I even attended this place. But I have debt over ten grand that says I did something somewhere? How is this even possible? I too am looking for help.
I also attended UDS on Caldwell Drive in Springfield, MA for Medical Assistant. I didn't know until after completion that the school was a scam and not accredited. I was a single Mom with a 2 year old at the time. After graduating with honors I realized that Baystate Medical Center, the largest Hospital in the Springfield Metropolitan area would not accept students from this school. I ended up getting an externship at Mercy Hospital on Carew Street in the Pre-Surgical Assessment Department. And only because I got to know the ladies in the department, and worked hard during my externship, did I end up getting hired by the same department after my externship was complete. Because it was certainly no thanks to UDS! Upon completion of my externship I thought I would be hired for clinical phlebotomy, and ECG Tech which is what I was trained for. But when I started the job for pay at $9.50 an hour I was told by the supervisors I could not do clinical and could only work as a unit secretary. I am convinced this was because of the school I attended. many students were going across the border into Connecticut because the pay was a little better and I was aware of many students who ended up going back to old jobs are finding regular jobs in factories etc etc because they would be paid more, and the people who are willing to hire us were few and far between. I have a question to ask all of you. I never cashed a student loan check sent to me from the government to attend school at UDS. I handed them over to the woman in the business office! Did you all do the same?because when trying to get student loan forgiveness years later I was told that I cashed and spent the money or handed the money over to the school so I am responsible for the loan! There is no way they can prove that I cashed one of those checks at any Bank because I never did! Never! They went directly to the business office! The thing with UDS is that they did use legitimate Pell grants and student loan companies. But us as students never saw that money. At least I didn't. So the school technically took all that money, lied to us all about accreditation and the amount of pay we could get out there after graduating. I remember hearing that they had changed their name to Sanford-Brown and a few years after that, I realized there were lawsuits against Sanford-Brown. I know there was a lawsuit against UDS, I actually think that lawsuit was going on in another state while I was attending the school around 2000, 2001. I am $13, 000 in debt to these scammers, have had six surgeries since then and I'm limited on the types of work I can do. It has wrecked my credit and I'm not even sure the company that is handling my student loan forgiveness is legitimate. They are called Nelnet. Wondering if anyone has them? Also I have read quite a few of the posts here and I think it really is time for a group of us to get together, hire a lawyer, and get these loans 100% forgiven. I was reading a little bit about the lawsuit and although the students were in a different state. I don't believe they received compensation but I do believe that their loans were forgiven. we need to do something about this and I would be more than willing to take the lead. I'm wondering if this is a case where a lawyer would take it pro bono or not have to pay until the case is settled? However I don't know because in the case of the other lawsuit, students did not receive monetary compensation but just loan forgiveness. My daughter just turned 21 and I was there when she was approximately 3 to 4 years old. Aren't we supposed to achieve forgiveness after 25 years? And I am trying to find out if Nelnet the company that now holds my loan and then I've been working with for quite a few years is even legitimate. navigating the USA Federal loan site is confusing at best and none of the options seem to apply to the type of loans we received. Has anyone actually spoken to a lawyer about our situation? And if so, what were you told? I would love to hear your stories and figure out a way that we can get those loans forgiven. At the very least we all deserve that. It has destroyed my credit, I am 56 years old now with multiple health issues and honestly I don't care about compensation. I just want my credit cleared and my loans forgiven. Also, are Sanford-Brown institute schools now also closed? Does anyone know if this original company that started UDS is working under another name again? Like they did when they switched from UDS to Sanford-Brown for their name? If I had to do it again I would have gone to STCC.and anytime since whenever anyone has said they were going to go to a business school like Branford Hall I have told them to beware and to go to a community college instead. So it's been like 19 years and I am still dealing with this issue. What about calling the office of the Massachusetts Attorney General? Also wondering if anyone has tried that. I am afraid it has been too long and we have all been forgotten :-( But maybe it's time we all woke them up and made them take action! I can be reached at my email address julieoconnor63@yahoo.com . Please mention " about my experience at UDS" in the subject so I will know it is safe to open it. Thanks, I know exactly how you all feel. It isn't right and very confusing &frustrating. It's time we all get our day in court. Julie O
Julie have you been able to get anywhere with this? If so please contact me, Nkspen41@gmail.com I’m also a victim of UDS FRAUD SCHOOL IN NYC
I went to ultrasound diagnostics in 2003. Same stories. Graduated with honors. In financial debt for the past 15 years. Called IRS and found out they never even applied for a grant in my name. Ruined my career. Def interested in civil suit. Contact me at kelly.22.83@gmail.com
I attended the first MA class at U.D.S and only went because we were told it was an accredited course. Which we didn't find out until after we graduated that this was not true, had nothing but problems with that school . Please contact me if you get a case going, I would love to tell my story. Thank you and God bless. ericaannsuleski@gmail.com
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I am currently in my fourth mod at Sanford Brown, I have complained about the lack of teaching. I have had a few teachers that have not taught me a damn thing. I have complained repeatedly to the Director of Education at S.B. and nothing has been done. I am not the only one complaining. I have 6 other class mates who feel the same way. I am paying for an education, but I'm not receiving it. They lied to get me into this school. I wanted weekend classes or night classes, I was told that they didn't have any. They had me sign up to fill there day class and then after a few months I found they have night and weekend classes, but I have been told I would be starting over if I changed. I am halfway through my year and I still have no clue on how to do blood pressure! I am there to learn, but they don't have teachers who want to teach. What can I do? I want my money back! They are a complete Rip Off!
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I am currnetly enrolled at Sanford-Brown and there is fighting in classrooms and The administrators don't even remove these animals from the class room Who do we complain toOOOOOOOOOO!
I am scheduled to start S.B. in September for their medical sonographer program. I am a little concerned becasue I did a random search and have come across multiple complaints like those above. Is this school really that bad or am I missing something. If someone could email me at cmd82242@aol.com about their experiences I would appreciate it. Thanks.
CeCe
OMG, I was told the same thing. I wanted to join night classes in January and they said they didn't have any. I just started the evening program in April 09, Pittsburgh, PA.
I have one teacher that doesn't teach at all. There are several disruptions in the classroom and profanities by the students.
The students miss way more than 25% of their time but are still are allowed to attend school one day per week to keep their financial aid. They make them come so they don't have return their Title IV funding.
They are a FRAUD. Please report them to their Accreditation Program listed in their handbook.
Hostile work environment
I was an instructor for the MA department and was targeted by the Dean of Education from the first day I started with the school. I was accused of outlandish behavior and wrote up twice for it without their being proof or a basis for the write up. We were told as instructors that we hit the classroom because our references and experience had proven when checked that we are professional, ethical, and qualified to be in the classroom but the Dean believed nothing I had to say and treated me as if my word didn't matter.
The Dean told me on 2 occasions to have meetings with my co workers because I had been accused of being the "weekend supervisor" or the "head instructor" even though I had just started with the school and had never said as such. She told me to let my co workers know that wasn't the case and to make sure they understood I was not an informant for our PD. I did as told, held 2 different meetings, and then was written up by the Dean. I was accused of not being professional when holding these 2 meetings and supposedly a few of my co workers complained about my attitude. I asked that those accusers be brought into the meeting with the Dean but the Dean refused to let me face my accusers. The Dean, on 3 occasions, when she requested meetings with me and accused me of something, never let me face my accusers. She could never back up her accusations against me she only wrote me up, I believe in an effort to get me out.
I wasn't given a chance to speak for myself against her accusations I was only written up. Again, I wasn't given the opportunity to face my accusers, defend myself, or be heard. I went to the President of the school where I was met with "I don't want this to continue into 2009, it needs to stop" and smirks on his face as if I was a joke. I told the President that "I couldn't stop something that I didn't start, do, or carry out". Again, I felt as if I had no one in administration who cared to hear me or help me in this matter with the Dean.
After 2 months of nothing but receiving accusations against me, not being defended by administration above the Dean, fighting for my job only to realize the Dean wanted me gone, and feeling like the President took this as a joke, I resigned my position with SBI Tampa unable to take the stress any longer.
I was an instructor that was strict but my students learned. I was met with resistance the first week of each new mod at my requirements of my students but I assure you that when asked, any one of them would tell you by week 2 they were learning and happy to have me. When I left my students were upset and didn't want me to go. They told me, "We haven't learned this much with any instructor, you will be missed". I miss them too and I miss teaching. I was able to develop a rapport with some trouble students and kept them in class and in school earning decent grades. It was rewarding and a learning experience I will never forget. I only wish that the Dean was not put in her position because clearly she is unethical, unprofessional, and not of an impartial mind. She plays her staff against each other to get her own reward.
Unnamed, Tampa, FL
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Unamed,
My name is Dave Scholl and I used to be dept. chair for a the allied health dept. at a school called Brown Mackie College here in northwest Indiana near Chicago. I have to tell you that your story mirrors many form the campus I left andf filed an EEOC complaint (2 sepaarte ones actually) for sexual harassment and reatliation for my filing these complaints and my attorney feels very confiednt, as I do, that we will win our lwa siuts against this campus and the sachool itself.
My point is this, after filing these complaints I was contacted by a free lance writer from Duke Univeristy who wanted to get my story and that of my students who have xperienced the exact same things that you have as well. I want to ask a favor of you in that could you please email me at the following email address your info and is it OK to pass that info on to this writer and have him contact you for possible interview for his upcoming story he is doing on these types of schools in a future edition of Good Housekeeping Magazine? I know I asked the same question you may be thinking as you read this, why would someone contact me regarding this? Because this type of practice must stop and his article and our input may be a way to make that happen I don't know. And if your wondering why Good Housekeeping, when I asked that question he told me that a lot of the readers of that magazine are single moms, which is what 70-80% of my students were as well so that makes sense.
I have had several collegues of mine check his background and he checks out as legitimate, since I trust very few people I felt it my obligation to do before asking my former students to speak to a total stranger.
Anyways, if you would like to speak to Barry please email me at jaded113.1@netzero.com or call me on my cell at [protected] and make sure to tell me who you are and what we are speaking about since I have no idea who you from the article you posted on this blog.
I really hope you and any other isntructors/students who have been at this college will really take a moment to reflect on your experience and that if you want to make a real difference contact me and I will provide the contact information to you for Barry and maybe he will do another article on this school or add it into the article already under research, again i don't know his thoughts on this.
Please do not wait, call me or contact me as soon as possible if your serious about this.
Thank you.
David M. Scholl
Graduation
After 10 to 11 months of school, I finally got to get out and go to my extern site. First of all they made my class take a mod off so that they could put us in with a class that was already 20 plus students. Then told us that if we didn't go to our extern sites by August 14 to complete our 180 hours, that we would not graduate with the class. Well after...
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sanford brown did not go into detail about how they are not accreditted, which means an ultrasound student cannot take the registry exam after completing the program. after taking $32, 000, No one will hire me because I am not registered, nor do I have ultrasound working experience.
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I graduated back in 2010 and now I’m unable to sit for my ARDMS because my transcript is in hours rather than credits. Can anything be done to fix this?
I need help in resolving an issue with Gibbs College (Norwalk) Sanford-Brown. When I was accepted I was told that I had received financial aid. After 2 semesters I realized that the "classes" were a joke. I was taking graphic design and one the first day of class during my third trimester, the” instructor” for Photoshop 2 walked in and told us that she was going to be learning the program along with us and too be patient. WHAT?!?!?!
I went to the main office to switch out of that class and was then told that I had a HUGE bill because my financial aid had never been approved. I withdrew from classes immediately. I could not afford that school without financial aid and would never have attended without it. I told them I would pay for my books and art supplies but nothing more since they had lied to me. That was 15 years ago. About every 5 years I get a call from a collections agency stating that I owe $16, 000 and that I didn't get financial aid because I dropped out. I write letters, call Sanford Brown and then the account gets pulled from that agency and I don't hear anything back. Well I got another call last night from a new collection agency.
I don't know what to do. They tricked me into believing I had financial aid and then wanted me to pay everything cash after I already completed 2 semesters. THEN they put in my file that I stopped attending classes when the truth is that I withdrew using their standard procedures. Does anyone have a similar problem and do you have an attorney?
My experience with Sanford-brown Iselin is great also. Teacher are the best and really want you to be the best.. Learning so much hoping to continue for another programlike surgical tech or ultrasound.
All I can say is that the Sanford Brown in Portland Oregon is great. I enrolled before they were accredited but they made sure they met/exceeded all requirements for accreditation in a timely manner. The instructors are amazing and they have really kept to their standards concerning best medicine. I'm in the veterinary technology program and they questioned me about my readiness for what layed ahead as far as blood draws and what not. A few students out here have complained and had their fair share of issues with the school... But then again, they all failed classes, failed to show up to classes, and failed to follow the student handbook.
If you just do your research and know you have a passion for what you're about to invest in AND can always make the time for class and homework, you're golden. This college isn't about pumping out numbers of graduates, they are about making sure that every student who does graduate is the absolute best possible. It takes certain kinds of people to really qualify for their offered classes.
Sanford Brown in Long Island Used to be called Katherine Gibbs. You know its funny, I sit here and read most of these Pro-Sanford supporters talking about how great the school is and how much they blame the students for not doing their homework? What kind of bologne is that? First of all, I can bet that most of these Pro- Sanford Brown supporters here are actual employees by SBI trying to influence the public attitude towards a COMPANY...thats right SBI is a COMPANY not a damn school. I went to a private university and I am paying as much as you would pay to go to one of these rediculous schools. I have a BA in criminal law and im almost done with my MA in forensics. I am set to start working for a private intelligence firm as a intelligence analyst in a few days. I went to SBI to find out more information one day (prior to starting my first year of college). They collected my info and little did i know, the thieves manipulated my FAFSA account and entered their school's name replacing the original school I was going to. This schoo abuses student government loans, and basically you are paying for nothing. The accrediting agency they claim to be part of is BOGUS because almost every school in that agency is being investigated. Katherine Gibbs Schools also known as SBI has been under investigation by the New York State Attorney Generals Office. Just to let you know... One company actually owns these institutes...such as Devry, SBI, Kathrine Gibbs. If you are really looking into getting a quick worthless degree.. then go right ahead and sign your soul away to these [censor]. If you just want a 2 year degree, then do the normal thing and go to a 2 yr community college. If you want a good solid education, go to a 4 year school with ACTUAL ACCREDITATION.
FIRST OF ALL WHITE PLAINS, YOU CANNOT BLAME PROSPECTIVE STUDENTS FOR EVERYTHING. THERE ARE ADMISSION REPS WHO TELL 1 PERSON ONE THING, YET ANOTHER ADM REP TELLS ANOTHER PROSPECTIVE STUDENT SOMETHING ELSE. YOU DO NOT FIND OUT THE LIES UNTIL YOU ARE ALREADY A STUDENT IN THE CLASS. MY CLASS HAVE DONE RESEARCH ON THE NEW PROGRAM THAT WE WENT TO SCHOOL FOR. NOT ONLY DID WE FIND OUT THAT THE CLASS WAS NOT ACCREDITED LIKE THEY TOLD US, BUT WE HAVE A DEPT HEAD BREAKING CONFIDENTIALITY, THEY HIRED AND FIRED A TEACHER FOR HIS COLORFUL PAST THAT WAS STUMBLED UPON BY A STUDENT, THEY SENT US TO LOCATIONS FOR EXTERNSHIP THAT ARE NOT HIRING (BY THE WAY, I DID TRY TO FIND MY OWN) AND EVERYONE AT THE SITE SAID THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT COULD'VE BEEN TRAINED WHILE AT WORK. WHENEVER YOU DO TRY TO SPEAK UP ABOUT AN ISSUE, THEY LOOK AT YOU LIKE YOU'RE THE LIAR, PACIFY THE SITUATION, TELL YOU THEY'RE ON IT, AND NOTHING HAPPENS. WHAT'S SAD IS THAT THESE DECISIONS ARE SUPPOSINGLY COMING FROM THE "HIRE UPS!" SO THE NEXT TIME YOU MAKE THE STATEMENT, "I'M SORRY YOU GUYS HAD SUCH A BAD EXPERIENCE BUT I DO BLAME YOU FOR IT, " THINK CAREFULLY BCUZ IF YOU WALKED IN ALL OF THESE PEOPLE SHOES WHO HAS A COMPLAINT ON THIS WEBSITE...YOU WOULD CUT YOUR FEET OFF! SIGNED...ISELIN, SBI
I ATTEND SANFORD BROWN WHITE PLAINS AS A BILLING AND CODING STUDENT.. I WILL FINISH MY CLASSES IN 3 MONTHS . THEY HAVE TOLD ME EVERYTHING I NEED TO KNOW BEFORE ATTENDING. WHAT YOU MUST UNDERSTAND IS IF YOU DON'T ASK QUESTIONS THEN THEY WONT BE ANSWERED. NEVER EVRE GO TO A SCHOOL AND ASSUME THAT THEY ARE ACCREDITTED.ITS YOUR RESPONSIBLITY TO FIND OUT WHAT EXITING EXAMS ARE NEED AND WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW IN YOUR FIELD OF STUDY... ALSO WHEN YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR EXTERNSHIP DONT WAIT FOR THE SCHOOL TO FIND IT FOR YOU. ITS OK TO FIND YOUR OWN... I KNOW I ALREADY HAVE 2 PLACE LINED UP. IM SORRY YOU GUYS HAD SUCH A BAD EXPERINCE BUT I DO BLAME YOU FOR IT
I just recently found this site and I want to let everyone know that I experienced many of the same problems. I attended the Tampa campus and ws kicked out for telling the truth to prospective "students". I am now having my wages garnished at the tune of 400.00 a month. I have spoken with an attorney and he is willing to file a class action lawsuit if I can find enough present and past students of the tampa campus. Please reply to this message and I will give you the e-mail address to this attorney.
Cindy
Riverview fl
Yes, Sanford Brown is the worse school ever and I regret my decision to go there. Actually I only went for two weeks and attended the Medical Assistant Program. The reason why I regret attending SB is because they want me to pay close to 1600.00 for what?! No one can tell me what I am paying for. I sent back the book and stuff.
Now I have the collections department calling me and threating and yelling at me. I have sent little payments but I may not send anymore because of the way they do business. I have sent numerous emails and letters requesting them to stop calling me on my cell and they continue. Once a collection department is told not to call a number they are to STOP!, but not SB.
My advice, RUN FROM SANFORD BROWN! Try a local college or a creditable online school. Stratford Career Institute is pretty good for a online school.
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i started sanford brown in jan 09, i wasnt a first time college student i knew the experience that came along with school, and i know that when you are in school it should be a challenge there was not one day that i had to stress "o i have to study, they spoon fed us so much like basically giving us all the answers so for the test we just basically had to remember the answers ...so when i signed up my rep stalked me everyday even though he just spoke with me the day before and didnt tell me anymore info than the day before. i was in several classes with about 30 plus students and it was impossible to learn...on top of that the turn over rate of the staff is ridiculous, and at one point our program director was a teacher of customer service who had THE worst customer service skills, the class was out of control we didnt learn anything and we consantly complained and nothing happened. our president doesnt want to speak to her students even though since day one she said she has a open door policy so when there was a issue you go to speak to her she have you speak to someone else. i personally left her a voicemail and she had a brand new staff which was the new director of education contact me, and she was still in training and only been at the business for less than a week, so of course my issues didnt get resolved. i called the corporate and again my issues werent resvolved. i was on extern and i got a needle stick injury and guess what SBI didnt give me my proper paper work until a whole week later. o yeah while im on the subject, how about this the school has a "policy" that after 30 days of being enrolled in the school you MUST have your physical done, which includes a hepatitis test, as you all know it is a dangerous and non curable disease why were we already poking ppl in labs and come to find out that half of the school didnt have their labs and some ppl did have them but the stupid ### school lost them how can you loose ### in that small piece of ### place. so when its time for us to go to extern they start threating us if we dont have our physical papers in that we would not be able to attend school so mind you if you dont knw that most of their programs are 15 months so when it comes to the 13th month they want to act concerned for the physicals simply because the extern wont let us come be apart of their practice with out it...sanford brown makes of off 10 weeks and this is out of 30 students 99, 975.00 plus book fees and we have half the computers working, no student lounge, no heat, or ac on so to me that is a money making school and thats all they care about...they have students starting after 5 weeks for 7 different programs and thats just the day time...