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Innovative Management fraudulant promises

I too almost went on this interview today, but it sounded a little weird when I spoke to "Amy". This company is now advertsing on "Craigslist" to get people. She tells you this is for a managent position with benefits. I asked her where the company is, where I would be working and she says "well the training center is in Tempe, but there's many locations opening up". Luckily I just googled them and found this site. So, I called her back and asked "What will I be selling" and Amy replies "Oh we are a wholesale distributor, we are a FRAGRANCE COMPANY". Please be advised to stay away and NOT waste your time. If I had more time right now, I would be going to my local news station "3 on your side". So, if anyone has time, call up news channel 3 and give them this story and complaints. thanks for reading. hope it helps. take care.

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Cleveland, US
Mar 27, 2009 1:06 pm EDT
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they were just in cleveland last week. i responded to the ad and it was exactly how the other posts are on here. sounded too promising at first, funniest part was how serious these losers are. wish i could go back and slap them. feel sorry for their empty lives. luckily i googled their name once i got home and never showed up for the first day on the job (they actually left a message telling me to dress professionally and take good notes).
i did call my local news station and they said they called the number and it was disconnected. sure enough i did too and they already dispanded to a "new office" . they are going to columbus or cincinnati next so watch out anyone in ohio.

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Innovative Management Fraud and Scamming

I too was scammed by Innovative Management. Zach Dunn and Sara Carl are the biggest low lifes I've ever met.

I worked for IMI for 5 weeks. I went through the training program staying out all hours of the night trying to meet my goals. I also went out on the roadtrips every weekend. I put several miles on and nearly destroyed my vehicle. I also about ruined my relationship with my family and friends. I let these manipulative jerks get inside my head and let me believe that they were offering me the opportunity of a lifetime. I spent every waking momment trying to impress these people and risking my own safety to "drop bottles". The ### finally hit the fan when the goals kept get higher and higher. Let's be honest, the perfume is fake and your lucky to sell them for 20 dollars a piece and make a whopping dollar profit on each after you pay in the 19 dollars per bottle owned back to the company. How can anyone servive on that kind of an income? Some inside information that you all might not know is that Zach and Sara live together in a house in Lavine, AZ that they rent and do not own. Mister self proclaimed millionare Zach doesn't even own a vehicle and the piece of crap Ford Focus that Sara claims is her younger brothers is actually hers. They get all their perfume from a company called Perfume World and it is all fake stuff. On the box where it says "Parfume du Mont" that pharse translated in french means "perfume world", which as I said is the name of the company that supplies them with their fake crap. I made a friend while working there that went all the way to the executive level and was actually given keys and made a branch manager at the location in Tempe, AZ. She recently quit and informed me that the salary promised was a complete lie and didn't see a penny of it until she demanded it before quitting. For those of you that knew Beth and Scott, they actually did open an office in Tuscon that bombed and closed after just a few weeks. I'm not sure what their current status is now. Good old Boomer and Rahul quit and are now living in Georgia. On June 25th, 2017 there was a picket held by former employees that were screwed over and it did bring media attention. Not long after Innovative Managment relocated to another office in Tempe. It's is off the US 60 and Rural Rd. The address is 4515 S. Lakeshore Drive Tempe, AZ 85282 and the phone number is [protected]. It still haunts my conscience today to think that I sold people lies and that I myself played a role in manipulating people to believe in this garbage. I offer my simpathy to those that were sucked in by this madness and just know that you did the right thing, as did I, when you quit. Karma is a ### and I pray that these low lifes will get whats coming them eventually.

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Mesa, US
Jan 13, 2009 1:54 am EST

I first spotted it in the paper after I had been fired just recently and was in desperate need of a job. "WILL TRAIN" it says in big letters. "No management exp. required." They don't tell you much on that first phone call. Just that they're looking for someone to do some basic bookeeping and inventory, but the wages they give are pretty outrageous. 40, 000 a year right out of training? Sign me up, I said.

The first interview was just strange. Everyone seemed just to happy to be working in such a depressing place. You're greeted by a girl named Ali, a blond whose smile kinda reminded me of a horse. She ushers you into a room with a bunch of black chairs facing the same way and you fill out an application. Then Zach Dunn introduced himself to me, a self-proclaimed self-made millionare. A man who worked 3 jobs for almost 3 years straight (IBM, a mechanic, and some other B.S. job), was living the life, blah blah. He told me Ali was watching how he interviewed me because she was moving up in the program and it was part of it all. It's a lie, another fabrication to make you think everything is reality when it's not.

I got invited back for the 2nd interview, along with about 15 other people. I was ushered into a meeting room with uncomfortable folding chairs with a big whiteboard and desk in the front. The next 2 hour's is nothing but empty promises and lies. They tell you what you want to hear, that you'll make 40, 000 right out of the gate, benefits after 90 days, 2 paid trips a year, commission on top of salary, your own branch, run things you're way, etc. I was buying into after the first day, telling all of my friends and family that I was looking at a legitimate career.

The 2nd interview is what started arousing my suspiscion. All of a sudden, we weren't going to be in training for management positions, we were going to be selling perfume and cologne door-to-door and buisness-to-buisness. Like we were back in elementary trying to sell those crappy books out of those Scholastic catalogues. And the way Zach spoke to the group was not at all buisnessman like. He proceeded at one point to demean a lady who had the gall to ask about job security, dropping F-bombs left and right and scaring her to death it looked like. But what does he care about job security as long as that money is entering his pocket?

I was lucky enough that I had friends who had been in the program for about 8-9 to weeks and told me it's a bunch of crap. They never received one check, were never reimbursed for the "required" field trips.

I'm relieved more then anything that I found these reports online when I tried to look anything up on this bogus company. To anyone who wrote something prior to me, thank you.

Don't fall victim to these idiots. I'm only unlucky in the fact that I wasted my time and not my money. I plan on returning and telling the others to not waste they're time. People say it all the time, but karma always comes back to bite you in the end. And hopefully, it'll take a bunch chunk out of these ###s.

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petarbg
Glendale, US
Feb 02, 2009 10:00 pm EST

Yes I was hired for this company also. Fortunately, after the second interview I researched them online and realized the scam those people are involved into. Even though I went to their first training orientation meeting after that I was pulled aside because I was asking too much uncomfortable questions for them.

I am Peter and my e-mail is petartsvetanov@yahoo.com

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Innovative Management Fraud and cheating

I think people need to understand that these reports on this company are not just disgruntled employees or uneducated idiots bitter because they didn't get a job. This company is all smiles, even while they're trying to scam you. The head of the office in Tempe is Zach Dunn (a self-described 27 year old punk kid who drives a porche). He acts and dresses like a sleazy used car salesman. He has the attitude of 'Maybe if I dress flashy and talk really fast, maybe they won't really listen to what it is I'm actually saying.' Pay attention!

My experience was much like everyone else's who have taken the time to expose the company. The add I saw simply said, 'Office help needed. Call Amanda.' Seemed innocent enough. I call and speak to someone named Nono (ironically, THAT should have been my first clue!). When I spoke to her, she said they were looking for someone to do some basic office work, filing, phones, some customer service, and they were hoping to train that person to eventually take on a management position. Ok. Again, seemed innocent enough. I was scheduled for an interview that day.

I show up at the address on Fair Lane and get greeted by a bunch of people at the front desk who are all acting like they've had way too much grape kool-aid. I get handed a piece of paper that I'm supposed to fill out, and get ushered into a room where there are half a dozen other people waiting. I thought that was a little odd. The radio was playing, and I'm not sure what station it was on, but the DJ was the most foul-mouthed, offensive jerk I've heard. Not appropriate at all for an office setting.

Eventually, I get called in with another girl to talk to Zach himself, who is speaking a mile a minute. Still thinking that they're just doing a lot of interviews because they want to find the right person for the job since, you know, they'll be training them for management, I carry on like I would with any interview. Zach then asks me to come back for the 2nd interview.

The 2nd interview was where it started to get weird. Still no one actually said anything about what you would be doing, except that whoever got hired (there were 20-something people in a room) would be trained to be branch managers. An exciting prospect, except that it's a bunch of horse [censored]. They tell you that training is paid on a commission basis. What they don't tell you til the 2nd day of training is that you will be one of those obnoxious people with a bag full of stuff that goes into people's work and disrupts their day, trying to sell you stuff.

They tried to have the same contest with us as other people mentioned. We were told that the prize money would be handed out as soon as we got in the morning of the 2nd day of training. It never happened. I was kind of glad that I didn't get anyone to buy anything.

Zach's behavior is completely inappropriate for someone that's supposedly that high up in a company. Every other word is the F bomb, and he is constantly using profanity while he's addressing the group. He discourages questions, which really isn't surprising because questions means you have a brain, and they don't want you to have a brain. They want you to be a drone. I was the oldest one in the room, most others were 19, 20, 21... awfully young to be trained to be a 'branch manager.' I was even older than Zach.

What you are promised:
$40k a year, plus bonuses
paid vacation every year
2 company trips every year
to be able to retire by the time you're 35
your own branch, customized by you... but it's not just YOUR branch... you share it with other branch managers.

One of the points that Zach makes is that you get to buy everything that goes into your office. So that it feels like home. He kept saying how everything in that office, he put there. I'm not sure why he was bragging about it. It looked like they had just moved in. The walls were a non-descript off-white. The carpet was hideous. There are a few pieces of art on the walls. The offices have desks, but nothing much else. Basically, it looked like they would be able to move on short notice, if necessary.

What I said at the beginning, I meant. You WILL be one of those people going from business to business, selling perfume and cologne out of your backpack. And he tells you NOT to skip any businesses. And to keep going back. This is all part of the 'marketing' portion of training. What that really means is sales. Really, you are no better than the telemarketers who call during dinner every night.

Interestingly enough, on the 2nd day of training (which was when I decided I needed to leave) one of the guys who got hired on with me was called out of the room. As he was leaving, he handed out a bunch of printouts of the complaints on this website. Most people just thought he was being stupid, and no one 'believes what they read on the internet.' But you could tell there were a few people who's few working neurons decided to kick in.

Just beware. This company is out to scam you. They set to lure you in with promises of money that they can't possibly deliver. They instead want to set you up in a huge pyramid scheme. Do not get suckered in. And whatever you do, don't sign anything that even remotely looks like a contract.

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Mesa, US
Feb 18, 2009 2:41 pm EST

I totally agree with you. I was invited back for a job as a branch manager. I looked them up at the BBB and I saw that they are not even a business that the BBB sees as a business. I was so excited at first until I had to sale perfume to my friends and family. I have not family or friends in the area so I was going to go around to the people in my housing development. I thought it was really weird so I decided to do a check with the BBB. They said you had to sale 50 bottles to your family and than you would get your own office. They said you would be paid daily. I wasn't even paid for the three hours that I sat in those hard metal chairs. They do not do your w-2s until after you sale the fake perfume to your friends and family. Smart on their behalf. Dumb on the employee's behalf.

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