Super Steel Building review: Don't fulfil order after they receive payment 251

It appears I (Arizona) should join the party. I began the process with Super Steel Buildings back in January and like most of you have delt with Wade, Scott, Marie, Miranda, and have plans stamped with the same engineer. My delivery date was targeted for late July/early August so I began trying to contact them this week. They are into me for $2, 500 which is nothing compared to some of you...but alot for me. I will contact and file complaints with all of the Forida agencies listed in the threads above as well as my local law enforcement. I have reservations about jumping on board with an attorney at this point but have not ruled it out.

I was scammed by Super Steel about a month ago. They were supposed to send a refund for insulation and a payment for work the contractor had to do to repair some brackets. They owe me about $4000. As I am new to this and I the more I read the madder I get any information as to were to start would be appreciated.

Mike Flinn

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheFloridaScoop--- this is a link to a video of a virtual office like Super Steels Buildings was.

http://www.goldbetter.com/---their address is now 1053 Ives Dairy Rd Suite 228 same as Super Steels use to be.

Another avenue some of you might want to pursue is to contact your US Senator in your state or Rep in your district. If your close enough go to their office with what ever documentation you have. I've sent emails to mine.

This is an email I just received from Diane Lade at Sun Sentinel in Florida. I hope she doesn't mind but I wanted to get this posted for everyone to see tonight. PLEASE send her an email letting her know how much you have lost, what state your from, and some details of what SSB did to you.

Thanks for this email, Jane. I wrote a brief story about United Steel Building being investigated a few months ago. Maybe I need to do something larger? Was Super Steel Buildings in Florida as well?

Diane

Diane C. Lade

Consumer and aging issues writer, Sun Sentinel

[protected] (office) [protected] (cell) dlade@sun-sentinel.com (email)

Follow me on Twitter @helpchick. Get consumer updates #helpchickpix.

Tracy Turner may be the CEO this time, buy Zimmerman & the Knotes are the owners aka president aka vice president of all the Steel Companies that they have been using. United Steel Factory, Inc., United Steel Buildings, Inc, & Super Steel Buildings, Inc. And that is to name just a few of the 14 they have had in the last 10 years.

Talked to miami detective sunday, long story short you should google goldbetter inc. miami and check out the virtual office space that super steel operated out of. Detective tried to look into super steel and the only info that goldbetter could come up with was that howard Zimmerman payed for the office space. Tracy Turner listed as CEO but had no identification for her other than that. Smells very fishy, the guy is making money by given these scammers a physical address.

Hi everyone, I am writing a letter to the president. I don't know what good it will do, but I figure it's worth a try... I think that everyone should write the president and load his mailbox with all our complaints and see what response we can get. I know it's a little far- fetched but hey what do we have else to lose...

What just amazes me is that if I was told in court to pay somebody something I owed them and did not, they would come and stick my butt in jail and sell everything that I owned. That is what should be happening now...to these crooks..

Over the last two years Zimmerman & Knote & USB have been sued in court many, many times and have lost. They have been ordered to give victims their money back or their buildings and have done neither. They are in contempt of court, but are still not being arrested! Why Not? is what I would like to know. Broward County seems to be one of the most crooked justice systems I have ever read about. Take the time to read about Scott Rothstein in the Sun Sentinel newspaper archives, there were Judges, lawyers, bankers, police, ect. involved that were all crooked. That may give you all an idea of what you may be up against in the court system in Broward County.

It's incredible frustrating right now to see these people keep operating and not being able to stop them from scamming more people. You have to wonder what other business they might be setting up right now to keep ripping people off. It's like playing wack-a-mole. More and more new people keep showing up here when they realize they've been ripped off. How many more don't we know about. Atleast we have some comfort in the fact that we've been able to find each other and we can coordinate our efforts to be more effective in going after these people.

BillyBoy131,
What did the lawyer say when you talked to him? Did he say how many people contacted him so far? Has he made any progress?

If we can all hit one news channel in that area, Miami, Fort Lauderdale, then they may see a big out cry and do something for us all...

Sorry to say, I too was taken by them for approx. $8, 500.00 on a 24, x 30' steel building. This happened over a yr. ago we started. My contacts where Marie, Ken, Greg, Clayton, Wade, Emma and the NJ State Licensed Engineer Jalal Ketabi... I have gotten plans but as of yet no building. Sent a payment in back on 5/10/2010 and that was the last I heard of them, on 7/1/2010 sent Marie an email got no responce back. Today 7/28/10 tried to call found out phone was disconnected so then I went to web site, GONE... Then I did a search and found this complaint site on super steel building, wish I had seen this earlier. I too call GILBERT AND CADDY LAWYERS IN FLORIDA, @ [protected], and left info to see if we can get a classs action against Super Steel Buildings... I do believe the next action is to contact the news like 7 on your side. If enough complaints to them about Super Steel Buildings They my think its a big enough story to go after them. If this generates enough public outrage then Hopefully the Attorney Gen. Office will get envolved. Dont cash the Checks if Possible... I also have All Emails and Paperwork that transpired between us if this Helps. Email me anytime with ideas. I also filed with Florida Attorney Gen. Office, and I suggest you all outta stater's file with tour States Attorney Gen. Office, Cyber Crimes...

Bill

Sry. to say, me too, I posted a Cyber Fraud here against Super Steel Building, with all my info, I agree the media might be the best way now to generate public awareness to this scam and get the gov. in and do something. I called that attorney and filed with Fl. Attor. Gen. Office, Cyber Fraud Unit. My username here is BillyBoy131.

Burnt in SC

Thanks for the contact info I have sent emails. I can't believe the news media wouldn't look into this, the FBI and Attorney General are investigating but where is the media? And in the mean time these crooks happily go right on scamming thousands of dollars out of unsuspecting Americans. I will never again deal with any company out of Florida.

NEWS Contacts.

In the past I have contacted: CBS/60 minutes, NY Times, Washington Post, Miami Herald, & South Florida Business Journal, among others.

S. Florida Biz did an article on USB in the Spring:

http://southflorida.bizjournals.com/southflorida/stories/2010/03/22/story3.html

pbrinkmann@bizjournals.com | [protected]

He was the only one to respond, and basically said they could not devote any more time to the story. Follow up with him anyway.

Diane C. Lade at the Sun Sentinal also did a blip on USB:

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2010-03-23/business/fl-united-steel-complaints-20100323_1_business-bureau-state-regulators-filings

dlade@SunSentinel.com or [protected].

Contact her too, she just did a story on an unlicensed electrical contractor being arrested for taking deposites in Broward Co.
What about unlicensed engineering, taking hundreds of thousand in deposits as the AG watches... That would be a good story!

Also: http://eyeonmiami.blogspot.com
No response yet, but contact them too, geniusofdespair@yahoo, gimleteyemiami@yahoo.com...

Keep on it.

unitedsteelbuildingscam.webs.com

I live in Nome, Alaska and my husband was scammed by US buildings. We lost a $2, 600.00 deposit.

Janice starling,

Will be glad to help and provide documentation if they want. Keep us updated. Thanks for contacting action 9.

I contacted WFTV action 9. They are gathering all th einformation now. If we make a news report I will definitely let you guys know. They may want names and additional information from everyone to validate the story.

Danna Powell,
Most of the posters on here have already filed with the FBI, Attorney
Generals of Fla and their states. Plus Economic Crime Div of Fl, we have been contacting news outlets and if you go back on this board you will see we have been in contact with a lawyer in Fl his name and phone number is listed. All the information you will need is on the previous posts. Hope this is helpful.

The FBI is already investigating Howard Zimmerman & William Knote for the victims of United Steel Buildings, Inc. The FBI has turned over their findings to the Attorney General's Office in West Palm Beach. The victims of USB are being told that USB's lawyers are talking with the AG's lawyers and that the outcome is not guaranteed. Even if we don't get our money back, why aren't these men being arrested? They have commited fraud against over 80 people, they are in contempt of court, what is there to discuss? If SSB victims want to help get these two men and the others that are involved with them, hurry and get your complaints filed with the FBI in Miami & AG's office in West Palm Beach before election day. Maybe that way the Attorney General will be forced to take action against them. USB's victims have been waiting for almost 3 years for the Attorney General's Office to take action.

I was told that we all need to file a police report in Miami and then contact the FBI office in Miami. If all of our losses total at minimum $200, 000.00, there is a good chance the FBI will investigate it. My e-mail address is dannaspowell@yahoo.com. They got me for $8, 250.00.

Add me in for sending information to the Miami Herald. I recieved a automatic reply only informing me that they recieved it.

I also sent information to the Miami Herald, one investigator did reply to my information and told me that they were forwarding my information to another reporter who did that type of story...Janice Starling, let me know who you contacted... deb

Janice Starling,
thanks for contacting the news. Who did you call? I sent emails to the MiamiHerald investigative unit but haven't heard anything yet. Please let us know if you see anything on the news since your from Florida.

i contacted the news. They are interested in the story. maybe we can out these people. Just to let jn2375, that is exactly what happen and who I talk to.

Please add me to the list. mavadikian@hotmail.com $5, 300 to Supersteel Buildings. Attempted to reach them now phone is disconnected.

zjone007 is registered on here as being from China, wonder how he posted, I thought their internet was blocked.

Looks like this site has been scammed!

Which division of the FL AG office did the email come out of and if you don't mind me asking, what was the email pertaining to? Maybe you should call the AG office & see if the email actually did come from them, and if it did then they need to know that it was sent with a virus.

I got a letter from Fl AG office to day it had avirus so be careful when opening them.

I have a question for everyone. How did you end up buying from Super Steel Buildings?

In my case, I was searching online for a steel building manufacture to get some prices. On one of the websites (can't remember which one) you filled out the information on what you were looking for an price range and then they would contact you. At the time I thought the companies would be from Pa only. Got a call from a few including Super Steel Buildings. The other prices where pretty high, at first we just ignored Super Steel but then kept sending us emails and calling. Telling us they had a building they didn't want to restock that it was close to what we wanted and would sell it for 40%-50% off. They said someone offered them $6900 for a 25x28 building delivered. This wasn't the size we were looking for so they said they could make it work and change it to a 30x60 for $10, 500. Then it went to $12, 000 because of all the garage door openings. We agreed to buy it but they wanted $3000 first to release the blueprints to us. When the blueprints came we had to drawn in the garage doors and change the roof pitch. Sent them back and they sent us a revised bill trying to charge us for the garage openings, we raised hell and they backed off billing us. But we had to pay for half the other changes we made plus the codes weren't correct, we got charged for that, plus the insulation (they wanted 1/2 up front). They sent us the stamped blueprints. After that a couple weeks later we got an email from Jamie (plant Manager) that he needed $3000 for fabrication deposit that was in January 2010. Jamie never answered my emails after that. So basically we signed the original contract for $12, 000 and after all the changes they charged us for it went to $16, 278. The never tried to contact us after then got our fabrication dep. but I kept emailing and calling them asking where the building was. Greg our project manager I was told was on indefinite leave in March, Marie is the only one who answered our emails or phone calls, she kept telling us she hasn't heard anything from the factory and that I couldn't call the factory and that they were still within the 80-120 day working time frame. And here we are today. I feel like a fool, I'm a pretty cautious person and they really got us good. [censor]!

Florida Board of Professional Engineers
so they have told me... won't investigate a company unless a complaint is filed. I haven't dealt with Super Steel or Allied.
I did file a complaint against USB, what a joke!

Seems the FBPE should be pro active instead of waiting for complaints. I warned them about Super Steel & Building Steel in March, they told me... if they have done something to YOU file a complaint...otherwise nothing we can do.

Most links to file complaints at:
unitedsteelbuildingscam.webs.com

as well as updates and anything else I find.

Looks like if you see their address with a "suite" number there's nothing more than just an office and no factory. Crypress Creek Rd sure has alot of shady business dealings. Who do we contact to have them checked out? I find it odd that no posters here are from Florida, its almost as if Florida residents know these people are scams and these steel companies target only the out of state residents.

I could be wrong but are there any Florida residents who have posted here? I could have missed them.

Sooooo why aren't they in trouble?

ALLIED STEEL is a broker not a manufacturer.

Although Allied advertises and promotes "engineering"...
"The company is acclaimed for setting the highest standards for steel building design and engineering...", "provide customer service, building design, building engineering..." etc.
Neither Micheal Lassner dba Allied Steel have a license to practice "engineering" in FL, nor is there a licensed PE on the corporate board to qualify them for a license as required by FL Statute 471.

Same MO as the Knote enterprises.

ALLIED STEEL CONNECTION...
One of the founding members of USB was Micheal Lassner, he left early on to start Allied. Original members were William & Theodore Knote, Howard Zimmerman, & Lassner.
They might operate the same way but don't think there is any other connection. It is odd they were using the same building complex address though...

I looked at Allied Steel Buildings web site and it is similar to Super Steel Buildings web site, no information... so I called them and acted like I wanted to come and look at their facilities and the girl got all nervous and said "How did you hear about us?" I said " internet" and then I was asking more questions and she said "Let me transfer you" and then my call was dropped... wierdness there for sure, I think they are a scam, how do we stop them before they cheat more people...

Jimmy B: Allied Steel Buildings is located at 2901 w. Cypress Creek Rd. Suite 125 Fort Lauderdale FL 33309 United Steel Buildings was located at 2700 W. Cypress Creek Rd. Fort Lauderdale FL 33309

The Florida Scoop investigated United Steel buildings (Zimmerman and Knote) they have a video posted on Youtube also they have a video of a virtual tour of Super Steel Buildings office here's the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGoj8HJbwak