Thriveli reviews and complaints
Scamming & Misleading
Thriveli/ Platinum Training Solutions/ Focus/ Lightwave Builder are all involved in misleading and scamming thousands of dollars from people who are trying to start-up or improve their business training. I was scammed out of over 3, 000. U.S. dollars for an alleged coaching/mentoring program to start my own online store. Only the first month was fine: 4 coaching calls (1 per week) and I did ALL the work researching from scratch niche markets etc. After this there were an assortment of problems (contradictory advice/ servers being too slow/ logging in problems (they had to keep resetting my login codes etc.) ALL OF WHICH SLOWED DOWN MY PROGRESS. But the final nail in the coffin came from one of their many affiliates (LIGHTWAVE BUILDER) who wanted the web-hosting fees (50 bucks a month) without me even having the chance to set-up my web store! They blocked me from OVER ONE MONTH from accessing the their Builder Program until I complained to Platinum T.
As I saw that this process is dragging on...I asked for a partial refund from PLATINUM (who refused). I needed my money back in order to buy another service to set-up my site professionally. And more problems with LIGHTWAVE. I hate their builder...it's loaded with cliches. Lightwave also has the nerve to condescend DOWN to their clients. That's when I HIT THE ROOF!The LAST STRAW!
Send an urgent communication to the GOV. OF UTAH asking him to look into this matter...because hey! WE CANNUCKS IN CANADA aren't as Stupid as Portrayed on sit-coms. HOW ABOUT SOME BAD PRESS launched across Canada in the MEDIA?
Company Business Name: thriveli
Country of complaint: United States
Address: Utah
scammers & liars
MISLED 2. I was scammed by "Josh" as well back in June 2009. Signed up for the WEB-STORE set-up for over 3, 000. Started from scratch doing niche marketing research, keyword spreedsheet, finding suppliers, etc. ALL ON MY OWN with very little input from their "coaches" (who don't often agree one to another). A good example of this was when I got 2 versions on what to do about my homepage. Add to this confusion, calls not returned promptly (like the next day); constant busy signals on the phone and their servers being down (so that your can't access the site); etc. B.S. Then AFTER ONE MONTH OF THIS, can anyone who is a reasonable human being WONDER why I STILL DON'T HAVE A fully operational WebStore up? That's ALL the time they give you because their price DOES NOT INCLUDE the actual setting up of your site.
Enter their WEB-BUILDER affiliate who will now try to extract web & hosting fees (while your site has yet to be up). And the parade continues...give us MORE MONEY...they couldn't care less if you're so close to becoming homeless or that you now have debts because you bought into their SCAM. What really took the cake was when one of their low-life affiliates who called himself Jamie E. telephone harassed me for $1, 700 to get my site "optimized". He represented himself as an "affiliate of thriveli and of Lightwave Builder". Judging from a few KEYWORDS that he let slip out of his liar mouth, THIS WAS AN INSIDE JOB (due to the content of the info. that he revealed). This was my confirmation that I bought into a SCAM in the first place. Because when I refused to accept this crook's fax, he stopped the phone calls cold turkey. NO MONEY BACK anywhere in sight.
I'm cutting my losses (thank GOD I didn't pay anything to the their Web-Builder, either) AND I'm GETTING OUT. What I wish on THEM (all those who knowingly destroy peoples' lives) IS that they GET BACK WHAT THEY CAUSED ME 10 FOLD. WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND (with an impact).
Company Business Name: thriveli
Country of complaint: United States
Misleading information
I was contacted from a guy named John, he said I was picked out to be a part of an Ebay educational program, which would show me how become an ebay powerseller with a mentor and teachers, after they took my $935.00 they havent returned a phone call, an email and everytime i call, they are out of the office, i then got a call from a company called the Manhatten group which was going to show me how become a worldwide ecommerce seller for the low price of $4750.00, I asked him what this has to do with ThriveLI and ebay. he told me they are a close knit family and work together, Im not falling for anymore of Thrives scams and I didnt give anyone 47500.00, I just want my $935.00 returned for services not rendered or a big scam
Company Business Name: Jim
Country of complaint: United States
Address: Pennsylvania
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
Charge-backs work great with scammers like these. It's the scammer sales person you want to get your money back, not the fulfillment center. Contact your credit card company and have them reverse the charges - they mostly will, unless it's been over two months.
How hard is it to hock things on eBay that you need a class?
THIRVELI LIES
I'm up for a class action suit. I signed up, put my $15, 100 on a cc and when I asked what I was getting for my money, did that include inventory and such? They told me yes, and other things. This site doesn't provide ANYTHING except some weakly done videos that don't provide detailed information on how to do anything. I started working with them explaining that my financial situation indicated that I needed to get another income coming in as soon as possible. They assured me 3 months (I translated to 6). They position themselves as a coaching team for folks who don't have any computer experience. The better to screw you with, apparantely. The bleeding just begins, you will NOT get any help on finding product or dropshippers, plan to spend money there and good luck finding a dropshipper that won't also pick your pocket. You will be paying monthly for your website, your merchant account, any activity you do on e-bay (one of their big pushes on making money - sell stuff you have around the house!) You will also have to pay for SEO optimization, they don't provide site mapping, you will pay for payperclick advertising, you will pay for pictures to put on your website. Well, you should be getting the picture. You might be unfortunate enough to get a couple coaching calls from kids who have no people skills what so ever. They will be condescending, vague and their profound guidance will be - watch such and such videos and do what they say. That would be those same videos that are vague and totally lacking in detail. You will also be inundated with calls from telemarketers who are hooked up with these people to sell you all the stuff thrive won't be helping you with. Well, I could go on. I signed up with these thugs in October of 08 and my website is completely invisible, no traffic, but lots of costs.
Company Business Name: Thriveli
Country of complaint: United States
Glad you are making your way through this. I simply threw in the towel as I never did find a good dropshipper for my product. Be wary of any phone calls you may get trying to sell you search engine optimization, google ad sense, etc. They are all part of the same group even though they claim not to be. I was hit with $800 from a company that was set up to take credit cards for my site. When I canceled, they took their fee out of my bank account and my bank isn't reversing the charges.
Warning - don't sign up for the Credit Card option. They will charge your bank account and when you cancel - it is $800. I didn't even realize they were charging my account. I didn't know who Global was. When I figured it out, I canceled and then they hit my account for $800 and I didn't authorize it! Right now I've filed a complaint with BOA, but they still haven't returned the money to my account. ARGHHH!
I don't have a web cam and don't have the time to figure out yet another software format. I would prefer the written format. I'll provide all the detail necessary. Am I the only one stupid enough to give them $15, 100? Be aware that Visible.net is also an affiliate of theirs. Just found that out. You won't find them connected, but I had an billing issue and spoke with the same person at both companies.
I listed this under the wrong name. Don't know how to take it off here. Needs to show under THRIVELI
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
Ok - I cant seem to find out if there is a class action suit going on. Therefore, I am going to report to the BBB then to the attorney General of Utah and then I will go from there. I received an email today stating that someone had responded to my message of November 2011. I count not find it.
Fortunately I agree with most complaints in the above comments. I been with them for 1 year and have not made a sale. They seem to be short on help and as I get more into it many of thier so called helpers are not that experience. Most of the time when you ask a question they send an email with an attachment to learn yourself. Because of my beginning status I am not sure if my site is any good. I also find thier answers vague. They did tell me I had to find my own suppliers and did provide links to many good suppliers. I didn't expect them to hold my hand, but I did expect service. Again when you ask for help you will get an email with an attachment. It seems thay have some good employees but not enought. Tell me what you think of my site. Either link should get you there. greencompostinggarden.com or composterworld.com. You will find my email address on the site. If you are one of those companies thriveli.com gives my name to don't call. Remember 87 to 90% of money making offers on the internet are scams. I wouldn't say thriveli.com is not a scam; they have thier hands into too many areas. To many hands in the pot spoils the stew. From a business point of we can't go on for ever not making money. One other point they use Paleys Diesel Performance website as an example but don't tell you that Pasleys website is not using thier builder.
Hi,
If you are persistant enough you can get your money back. File a complaint with the Attorney General in your state and the state the offenders are located in. You all should also file a complaint here:
http://www.ic3.gov/crimeschemes.aspx
http://www.usa.gov/Citizen/Topics/Internet_Fraud.shtml
84 days ago
Carolyn,
I got resoultion resoved. My bank was not very helpful so was presistent in calling and finally the customer service representative put me through to her supervisor & I gave her a ear full & she forward my call to the "CALL RESOULTION CENTER". All those cancelation numbers Web Profits throws out are just to make you think everything is ok. I talk to a representative staurday at the call resoultion center and today i checked my account & the $69.97 was back in my account. Take care 7 thanks for the help.
(Name Withheld for Privacy)
10 days ago
Thanks Carolyn,
I filed a complaint with the BBB and they responded within a couple of days. I received a full refund yesterday.
(Name Withheld for Privacy)
94 days ago
Hi (Name Withheld for Privacy, )
When you call your CC holder tell them you have been defrauded and can reach no resolution with the offender. Regulation Z requires CC companies to set aside monies for people that are victims of fraud. Every company on the internet has guidelines they have to follow.
If I can be of help in any other way feel free to contact me.
I Believe In You,
Carolyn
PS: Speak with Supervisors only.
Hello,
I just wanted you to know that I am a Thrive 'Scamee' too. Unfortunately I was into them for over $15, 000.00 and they put me in contact with a company who talked me into liquidating my IRA account and investing in property in Nevada. Then they signed me up with a Tax Company who did absolutely nothing for me.
This is a nightmare.
Elizabeth Kelly
I wish I was able to get this resolved. I was told the same thing that I would get my investment back if I did not earn it back with this junk program. So I tried to get my money back and they said that in my contract that I signed that I would not be refunded . I don't remember signing a contract and I have requested a copy of my contract and this was about three months ago and I still have received my "contract." Also there is a company that everytime that I send in a complaint to Thrive they email me asking if I need help getting my money back. They charge 40% of your investment. I think this company is in business with Thrive so I don't think I would trust them.
Any one get thier money back? In my serching, i'm only finding several people that say they got their money... I am still trying but have to pay my CC bill to not mess up my credit. These people sure know how to screw up people's lives.
That's a real shame and I'm sorry to hear that, Are you still doing anything internet based?
We have four sites up at the moment, okay we've not made any dough but we're hopeful.
I really cant remember how thrive got hold of us, I think it was from a 'work from home' ad,
I was looking because all last winter I was working outside in subzero temperatures between 1800hrs and 0600hrs with no heating in my yard tractor and no help at all from the boss.
Now when I see the ads by google like the ones at the top of this page I want to scream because I know some-one else is being stitched up every minute.
Take Care.
Hi,
I am in england and was hooked by thriveli as well!
the thieving gits conned over 4000 off of my partner and I, yeh they have got loads of vid's on their site but the help you get from them is vague and very condecending.
I signed up in july 09 and all the help, that I have had from them is being told to watch the vid's and get on with it basically!
their web builder is absolute rubbish! who the hell wants to learn html these days?
build a banner I was told and incorperate pay pal etc. etc. and was told to download a graphics prog called gimp, okay that was free but it was the most stupid linux based editor i've ever seen!
there was no way that I would have learnt to use it in 6 months let alone make a sensible banner.
I was always being sent dates for webinars etc, yeh I could watch them later but we all know that if you sit down and watch this sort of stuff you aren't doing anything else!
I was sent an email with '13 rules on building a web site' and was told I had to comply with these rules before it was sent to a benchmark team to look at it before it was published!
yeh right! they forgot rule 14, it's my site!
hehe, I got narked and asked the 'technical dept' for the site address etc and slammed up a rubbish site using the worst site builder I could find, windows publisher 2000. the only trouble was that it don't look too bad, I'm not selling, and if you go look at the site, throttlerotate.com, please dont push any links on it.
but anyway, I found that Google absolutely adores publisher 2000 and Ive used it elsewhere with the same effect, google indexes it within 48hrs!
I now use a paid for site builder that does everything I want, it even converts my home vids to flash and has got a great uploader, I wont tell you what it is here because I dont want to be thought of as a scammer doing affiliate sales on it but it cost me just £35 and I'm happy.
Ive also found progs to resize etc my pixs that work great, one I paid for but it only cost me 9dollars and does what it says. sorry...I'm rambling...
oh yeh and I told one of the 'team' about a nice little niche keyword, guess what? there were seven sites using that keyword within the week!
I think it will be impossible to get our money back because they are going to use that old line..financial benefit is down to the effort put in..and all they have to say is you didnt put the effort in.
I was told by the idiot reactive team coach the other day to buy back links for my site! cooool, lets get slammed by google then!
anyway I dont know if this will get posted yet, knowing my luck it'll get stuck in outerspace or something, If anyone wants some help with links, c.junction, clickbank, paypal, whatever give me a shout, no spam please (ive got a hard drive full of that if you want some) and if I can help I will because I'm still learning the hard way as well
loadsa love and respect, Derek
Was wondering how you made out on your class action suit. I also have been scammed, all I received was a 10 min. coach call and the coach could not wait to get me off the phone, also the only training was the videos, also I was told that if I did not make my return investment in 6 month I would be refunded my investment, it's been over a year.
jmamoroso55@gmail.com
Has any one got their money back recently?
Fraud and lies
Thriveli Complaints - Not promising what I signed for
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Thriveli
Posted: 2008-12-02 by Cheryl Matthies [send email]
Not promising what I signed for
Complaint Rating:
Company information:
Thriveli.com
Unknown
Provo, Utah
United States
Phone: [protected]
ThrivelearningInstitute.com
Dear Sir,
I gave you 14, 320.36 and for that I have received 2 coach's calls. You lied to my credit card company today by telling them I had received a lap top computer which you know is not true. I have no help consoldating my pay pal account and E bay account when I think a phone call from you would have been helpful. Instead, pay pal sent me to e-bay and vice versa. I received a letter today from the wired group wondering why I have not participated in any of the group sessions. The reason why is because you need a microphone and a headset even though I was told otherwise by the wired team which is another lie. The sight will tell you need both and gets angry if someone just has speakers on. So, consequently I am being billed $39.95 for nothing. I think I have been taken fraudulently and I am seeking full compensation as I do not want to do business with a company that lies. Also, no phone calls have been returned to me since I called the company yesterday saying I wanted out for these reasons. I am also going to contact the FTC and I have contacted my bank to ensure no more payments from Bright Builders can be taken out.
Respectfully,
Cheryl Matthies
Company Business Name: Thriveli
Country of complaint: United States
Address: unknown, Provo, Utah
Phone: 866-344-3672
Website: thriveli.com
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
I recently joined Thrive, and I'm loving it! I think it's absolutely the best thing I've ever done =) I am so excited to be part of this.
My advise to you guys is stop trying to find everything wrong with it, and start doing things differently. I noticed that you were already complaining before you even got started. Already looking for 'red flags'. Honestly, if 'red flags' are what you are looking for that is what you will find.
Obviously, you wouldn't be looking for a means to generate another income if what you already know was working for you. You see what I mean? You can find something bad about anything, if you look hard enough. Choose to see the benefits of the program, utilize it, Trust, listen and learn.
I am NOT here to try and change the way Thrive LI does business. I am not here to complain because I refuse to relinquish the reins to the experts and do what they ask.
I am here to do exactly what my coach tells me, and I am making wonderful progress! I know that I am the student, not the teacher, in this scenario. I am not the one making the rules. Things are not done 'my way' in this situation. I am here to follow instruction, learn and repeat. Be proactive, stop trying to control, and take advantage of the opportunity that is sitting right there in front of you.
If you put as much energy into making it work as you do listing all of the reasons why it won't - You'd probably be millionaires! No, for real, though - think about it. Are you part of the problem, or part of the solution?
Best Wishes! ALM
I signed up with Thrive in June 2009 and now almost tapped out of cash and I owe so much on credit card I will have to live until I am 400 years old to repay all of it. I was in real estate when my health took a turn for the worse so when I spoke with Thrive I was convinced by the sales people that I could make money and more that I could live in Arizona for 6 months and avoid unpleasant and cold Canadian winters. I was told that even though my technical knowledge was really base ( I didnt even know how to cut and paste) the coaches would be there to help. So I was talked into paying them $9500. When I thought about it overnight I knew that it was too much for me to handle. So I called the sales guys and they said that in Utah there was no way I could get out of any contract in the State. Since that time I have discovered otherwise. This company has no ethics. No wonder the Occupy groups are out there - this is only one problem we have in the world. So since they wouldnt let me out of it I set up a schedule to speak with them...I was to receive a call every Tuesday at 10 am from Nate. I received one call only. And when I called I was told just to wait. I discovered that Nate had left the Company. So no further scheduled calls and I was on my own. How scary is that? When I called in with a question I would wait up until an hour and a half for someone to answer. Usually the question could be answered in less than 5 minutes. So my real estate business was faltering because the time I spent sitting on the phone waiting for either Thrive coaches or Lightwave Builder I missed spending valuable time on getting business in real estate. By the way I also contacted my bank and asked them to cancel the charge even after I explained that the Company was not providing the service as promised. They refused. I had problems with Lightwave Builder. First of all they helped themselves to my credit card from Thrive and started charging me for web support almost 3 months before the site went live. The technicians at Lightwave were always annoyed when you called in for an answer to something- some were outright rude.
I also received calls for all sorts of other providers - Merchant Accounts etc...It turned out that these companies were scams - Thrive did not warn me that this would happen - I signed up with a few of them because they said they were part of Thrive. Luckily I got back all of my money from those scams except for $250- wish that was all that I lost.
I have kept over 100 emails going back and forth so I can prove my points. I understand that there is a class action going on and these emails should be good back-up evidence.
Today I sit with $3000 - $41000 in debt even after selling my house and living with friends otherwise I would be homeless
The above is a general outline of what transpired - oh and only 6 sales in 2 years - I shut down the site earlier in 2011. I havent even touched what The Tax Club did to me. They have absolutely no experience or knowledge of Canadian taxes but they promised that they did and charged me $2000 for that.
I take responsility in that I trusted these people...when raising your children nowadays teach them to TRUST NO-ONE
I signed on with Thriveli in September, 2008. This was the biggest mistake I ever made. I am $17, 000 in debt on my master card which "Jason", talked me into increasing the limit to pay them. "Jason" even offered to call the bank to have it increased for me. I was basically promised financial security if I followed their system. I followed their system and guess what? Six months down the road, their story changed and my coach told me that these things "takes time". If "Jason" was honest from the beginning, I would have never signed on. I told him from the beginning that my husband's income was greatly reduced due to the recession and that we have four young children. "Jason" still urged me to sign on. We are really struggling to feed our children due to the huge monthly master card bill. If Thriveli calls you, hang up. They dont care if your kids starve, they are in this for their own profit. They are crooks and should be in jail.
Tamara
I started studying their program. I'm doing it my own pace...which also means since I had to take a break to deal with some finincial set backs... and can not complete it in stated deadline... I do not get reembursed partial payment.
It is said if you do not complete training and earn fair amount of money then they will reemburse you back part of your money...
This was my own fault for not completing on time.
But ON top of this... IT COST AN ARM & A LEG to get right kind of advertising on websites plus the training to move up catagories and be listed within 1-2 pages of search pages that get pulled up . Along with listing in yellow pages, etc.
I thought it would help to earn money back to help with my financial bills... but found out it created more... and I had a website several months... dsc, iowa
I have been fighting with Thrive for most of 09 trying to get my money back but trying to get a hold of people that "can" do something about it is almost impossible. They said that I signed a contract and that they did not have to give me my money back. At that time I requested my contract to be sent to me. Thats when I started getting more of the run around. You all know what I mean, you have to talk to this person and that person and so on and so forth. I have been requesting my contract for about three months and still nothing. They also tell me to keep in contact with the coaches but the coaches are useless all they tell you to do is watch this video and that video. The videos themselves are useless because all they show is what most people that are selling online knows. I got into this beacause they said they would give the resources. Yeah right. Some junk videos, and a horrible website builder. I advise everyone to tell people about how bad Thrive is.
A person should use a level head when filing complaints. A heads up to people about to be suckered into investments, that don't inform you fully in the beginning, like these. One sucker in a million can achieve success if they sell their life out to do so, thats what they don't tell you in the beginning. We all got sucked for different amounts of money. The more desperated we were the more we got sucked out of. Yes they lie, they cheat, and they steal from suckers like us that look for pie in the sky, that just isn't out there. If you are willing to walk the plank, you might find a market to sell bad cameras or whodoo buyers with shipping scamming for a spell. Then you can change your name and find Scamways to suck more suckers dry. We live in a very imperfect world, God will judge the motives of the wicked.
I would love to get my investment back from Internet Solutions (Thrive), but I didn't walk the plank, to accomplish
being the one sucker in a million that achieves success by selling his life out and don't choose to do the same to get
back what I got suckered out of. I don't have that much sanity left. Dave, my friend Dave, if you are out there, and
can say you are my friend, and God's friend as you posed to be, give me a call. After all friends do call once in a
while, and I haven't heard from you one time since you convinced me pay you so generously, then I learned I was
basically on my own to spend hours and hours to figure it all out. Thrive cuts you loose before your even
started. If you believe in what you do and honestly can sucker another widow out of all that money without any
remorse, please call me, I need to pray for you. Then help me walk this plank and I'll tell cyberspace that you helped
me do it, that I became successful from Thrive or whatever name you go by now. Maybe I'm just a slow learner
sucker, and I need more help than the typical leech out there. Maybe I'm in the 98%percentile of all suckers, and
thats why you are getting so many complaints. We all are mentally challenged and need real mentors to get our
moneys worth here. Whats your word, Thrive? Is it truly just that I have a Mac?
I started a blog to warn and help others who fell into this scam...go to:
http://scambuster111.blogspot.com/
Good luck to all
RR
scammedbyth4ese guys
Iron Clad?
The seller didn't correctly apply the "Business Opportunities Act" as Utah Division of Consumer Protection has on their web site.
Check out these blog sites and "Business Opportunities Act":
www.saundrak.wordpress.com
http://howtostopthrive.blogspot.com/
So iron clad that the state of Illinois has a cease and desist order against them.
There is a lot you can do.
No one and I mean no one can stop you from giving a truthful account of your experience with them. Hey manager type stop with the scare tactics. What ...we are not supposed to speak up when we have been wronged? That just plain goes against everything our country is supposed to stand for. As for your “sterling reputation” take a look at all these complaints... Are you kidding...You mean your “in the toilet reputation”.
They tried to offer me that same bulls*** extra coaching. Why would you want to trust anything Thrive has to say after all they are the reason we are all in this mess.
As far as SVH goes notice how they advertise almost everywhere thrives complaints reside and just when they are in hot water with consumer protection and thir BBB acreditation has been revoked...and they are based in Utah ...mmmm smells like the load we were handed to begin with. Another person wrote on another forum this looks like a good way for Thrive to keep 40% of your money if and when they are forced to refund a customers money by consumer protection.
Don't ever quit till you received 100% of the money these guys stole from us.
I wasted $3k with these scammers. I tried to cancel twice and they kept telling me that I would get what I paid for if I stuck with it. After 1.5 months, it was painfully clear that I knew much more than the expert coach, and despite what I had been told, after 1.5 months, I had not made a nickel. That is provable. The sites that my coach and I worked on every week, and I followed each of his "homework assignments" to the letter, I can also prove that my traffic only increase by a FRACTIONAL VISITOR daily, like 0.7. I tried to cancel and was told that it would get better. I told them I was not interested in continuing because the TREND after 1.5 months was not even showing a glimmer of a snowballs' chance of achieving anything even remotely close to what they had promised. I disputed with my credit card company, who is "trying" but apparently these scammers are expert in one thing -- an iron-clad legal document. I did get a phone call from them from some manager type who told me (in a tone of voice that would have sent chills up the spine of Tony Soprano) that if I even THOUGHT about trying to defame their sterling reputation, their lawyers would be on me like a cheap suit. I am more than open for a class action suit.
I wasn't contacted by SVH but I did get the same six month thing from Thrive.