So I setup anopther user because I forgot my login, again...
I'm not advertising anything, I'm just here to establish a searchable record of who is Brookstone Law and the relationship to United Law Group as it pertains to bankruptcy. What I did was reference web sources.
Searching the web I found that the CA Bar only lists Robert Buscho for ULG. And that's the only Atty on ULG's website. You said they had more Attys. Searching the Google cache I found that ULG had removed a page about Vito Torchia and Jerold Gardner. So for some reason they don't want to be ref'd by ULG, and no other Attys list themselves with ULG at the CA Bar.
You John Wright, in my opinion, appear have an agenda here to defend ULG because you are the named plaintiff in a suit they have against BOA that could shake loose quite a few $
I think I did find Jerold Gardner in Kirkland WA but as I ref'd above the AG of WA had issued a C&D order barring work by ULG in WA so could he be active? See ref's above.
So that's what the web tells me about Brookstone and United Law Group. It mirrors what the original poster said, getting them to do your BK outside of their CA area is probably a bad idea.
If you are within CA then my suggestion is to evaluate your Atty choices carefully.
John you really post a lot of text that says many confusing things, and trys to twist what I said. I think that's your ploy, to post so much junk people stop reading.
The topic at hand here is Bankruptcy and Brookstone Law, which is really United Law Group. Is Brookstone a good choice to file your bankruptcy when you are outside of CA? As I said in my first post, I agree with what the original poser said. And had web links to support it. I never claimed to be another customer.
Is United Law Group a good choice for bankruptcy in CA? Maybe, got to visit them and see. Plus research them. If you don't mind the FBI raid, disbarments, OH and WA AG orders to cease and desist, plus civil fines of like $200k... well... none of that relates to bankruptcy, just loan mods.
You (John W) said both that I pretended to be a complaining customer, and you said I am promoting my own firm. Anyone reading my posts (using 3 users bkatty7, warrentx, warrentx2) will plainly see I have done NONE of that. They will find weblinks and info about Brookstone and United Law Group.
I did list 10 large law firms in CA that do BK, if one was my firm then I gave 9 alternatives. I also gave this advise:
Before you use any firm check them out at the bar, seach the web for their name. Do a few free consultations where you visit the office and decide who feels right. Use someone with a local office and not some "network". Consider using a small firm where you deal more with the Atty. Price is obviously a concern, but also what you get for that price.
On 6/30/2010 United Law Group filed Chapter 11 Bankruptcy in Central CA case number 8:10-bk-18945-RK. Robert J Buscho is ULG's Attorney. Chapter 11 lets them file a plan and reorganize. It can delay things a long time if they can't get the creditors to agree to a plan.
The filing is missing the schedules so not a lot of information yet.
The top 20 creditors lists Brookstone Law #1 owed $377, 366. Comment says "Services rendered on behalf of clients". I wonder if they are stacking the creditors committee?
Old big interesting items:
Zec Management, 1117 Desert Lane #1989, Las Vegas for $231, 769.32
Black Gold Leasing, 1117 Desert Lane #1761, Las Vegas for $88, 159.10
Search for that 1117 address and you'll find NevadaFirm.com offering "Idenity Services" that include that address. Web searchs find nothing about those firms.
On 6/30/2010 United Law Group filed Chapter 11 Bankruptcy in Central CA case number 8:10-bk-18945-RK. Robert J Buscho is ULG's Attorney. Chapter 11 lets them file a plan and reorganize. It can delay things a long time if they can't get the creditors to agree to a plan.
You could try filing a Proof of Claim against their case. You could go to the CACB court office nearest you, see http://www.cacb.uscourts.gov for office locations. As to how to file the POC the clerk may help, probably better to search the web for how to file a proof of claim in bankruptcy. You will want to provide as much proof as possible.
On 6/30/2010 United Law Group filed Chapter 11 Bankruptcy in Central CA case number 8:10-bk-18945-RK. Chapter 11 lets them file a plan and reorganize. You must file a Proof of Claim against their case to get your claim for refund on the case. You could go to the CACB court office nearest you, see http://www.cacb.uscourts.gov for office locations or mail it to the clerk.
The CDCA page that offers some help is here at #10 "What Do I Do if an Individual or Business Filed for Bankruptcy and Owes Me Money?":
http://www.cacb.uscourts.gov/cacb/welcome.nsf/information-selfsevicecenter-faq2?openpage#AF-B10
In summary
Download and fill out Form 10 Proof of Claim (see (1)). Be sure and ref the name United Law Group and case number 8:10-bk-18945-RK
Be sure to attach as much proof as possible (see (2)).
Mail it to the clerks office.
You will want to get it filed by October 1.
Might want to Google: how to file a proof of claim in bankruptcy "pro se"
for more info and examples. Several courts have "Creditors proceeding Pro Se" pages.
The CDCA page that offers some help is here at #10 "What Do I Do if an Individual or Business Filed for Bankruptcy and Owes Me Money?":
http://www.cacb.uscourts.gov/cacb/welcome.nsf/information-selfsevicecenter-faq2?openpage#AF-B10
In summary
Download and fill out Form 10 Proof of Claim (see (1)). Be sure and ref the name United Law Group and case number 8:10-bk-18945-RK
Be sure to attach as much proof as possible (see (2)).
Mail it to the clerks office.
You will want to get it filed by October 1.
Might want to Google: how to file a proof of claim in bankruptcy "pro se"
for more info and examples. Several courts have "Creditors proceeding Pro Se" pages.
On 6/30/2010 United Law Group filed Chapter 11 Bankruptcy in Central CA case number 8:10-bk-18945-RK. Chapter 11 lets them file a plan and reorganize. You must file a Proof of Claim against their case to get your claim for refund on the case. You could go to the CACB court office nearest you, see http://www.cacb.uscourts.gov for office locations or mail it to the clerk.
The CDCA page that offers some help is here at #10 "What Do I Do if an Individual or Business Filed for Bankruptcy and Owes Me Money?":
http://www.cacb.uscourts.gov/cacb/welcome.nsf/information-selfsevicecenter-faq2?openpage#AF-B10
In summary
Download and fill out Form 10 Proof of Claim (see (1)). Be sure and ref the name United Law Group and case number 8:10-bk-18945-RK
Be sure to attach as much proof as possible (see (2)).
Mail it to the clerks office.
You will want to get it filed by October 1.
Might want to Google: how to file a proof of claim in bankruptcy "pro se"
for more info and examples. Several courts have "Creditors proceeding Pro Se" pages.
On 6/30/2010 United Law Group filed Chapter 11 Bankruptcy in Central CA case number 8:10-bk-18945-RK. Chapter 11 lets them file a plan and reorganize. You must file a Proof of Claim against their case to get your claim for refund on the case. You could go to the CACB court office nearest you, see http://www.cacb.uscourts.gov for office locations or mail it to the clerk.
The CDCA page that offers some help is here at #10 "What Do I Do if an Individual or Business Filed for Bankruptcy and Owes Me Money?":
http://www.cacb.uscourts.gov/cacb/welcome.nsf/information-selfsevicecenter-faq2?openpage#AF-B10
In summary
Download and fill out Form 10 Proof of Claim (see (1)). Be sure and ref the name United Law Group and case number 8:10-bk-18945-RK
Be sure to attach as much proof as possible (see (2)).
Mail it to the clerks office.
You will want to get it filed by October 1.
Might want to Google: how to file a proof of claim in bankruptcy "pro se"
for more info and examples. Several courts have "Creditors proceeding Pro Se" pages.
On 6/30/2010 United Law Group filed Chapter 11 Bankruptcy in Central CA case number 8:10-bk-18945-RK. Chapter 11 lets them file a plan and reorganize. You must file a Proof of Claim against their case to get your claim for refund on the case. You could go to the CACB court office nearest you, see http://www.cacb.uscourts.gov for office locations or mail it to the clerk.
The CDCA page that offers some help is here at #10 "What Do I Do if an Individual or Business Filed for Bankruptcy and Owes Me Money?":
http://www.cacb.uscourts.gov/cacb/welcome.nsf/information-selfsevicecenter-faq2?openpage#AF-B10
In summary
Download and fill out Form 10 Proof of Claim (see (1)). Be sure and ref the name United Law Group and case number 8:10-bk-18945-RK
Be sure to attach as much proof as possible (see (2)).
Mail it to the clerks office.
You will want to get it filed by October 1.
Might want to Google: how to file a proof of claim in bankruptcy "pro se"
for more info and examples. Several courts have "Creditors proceeding Pro Se" pages.
On 6/30/2017 United Law Group filed Chapter 11 Bankruptcy in Central CA case number 8:10-bk-18945-RK. Chapter 11 lets them file a plan and reorganize. You must file a Proof of Claim against their case to get your claim for refund on the case. You could go to the CACB court office nearest you, see http://www.cacb.uscourts.gov for office locations or mail it to the clerk.
The CDCA page that offers some help is here at #10 "What Do I Do if an Individual or Business Filed for Bankruptcy and Owes Me Money?":
http://www.cacb.uscourts.gov/cacb/welcome.nsf/information-selfsevicecenter-faq2?openpage#AF-B10
In summary
Download and fill out Form 10 Proof of Claim (see (1)). Be sure and ref the name United Law Group and case number 8:10-bk-18945-RK
Be sure to attach as much proof as possible (see (2)).
Mail it to the clerks office.
You will want to get it filed by October 1.
Might want to Google: how to file a proof of claim in bankruptcy "pro se"
for more info and examples. Several courts have "Creditors proceeding Pro Se" pages.
On 6/30/2010 United Law Group filed Chapter 11 Bankruptcy in Central CA case number 8:10-bk-18945-RK. Chapter 11 lets them file a plan and reorganize. You must file a Proof of Claim against their case to get your claim for refund on the case. You could go to the CACB court office nearest you, see http://www.cacb.uscourts.gov for office locations or mail it to the clerk.
The CDCA page that offers some help is here at #10 "What Do I Do if an Individual or Business Filed for Bankruptcy and Owes Me Money?":
http://www.cacb.uscourts.gov/cacb/welcome.nsf/information-selfsevicecenter-faq2?openpage#AF-B10
In summary
Download and fill out Form 10 Proof of Claim (see (1)). Be sure and ref the name United Law Group and case number 8:10-bk-18945-RK
Be sure to attach as much proof as possible (see (2)).
Mail it to the clerks office.
You will want to get it filed by October 1.
Might want to Google: how to file a proof of claim in bankruptcy "pro se"
for more info and examples. Several courts have "Creditors proceeding Pro Se" pages.
On 6/30/2010 United Law Group filed Chapter 11 Bankruptcy in Central CA case number 8:10-bk-18945-RK. Chapter 11 lets them file a plan and reorganize. You must file a Proof of Claim against their case to get your claim for refund on the case. You could go to the CACB court office nearest you, see http://www.cacb.uscourts.gov for office locations or mail it to the clerk.
The CDCA page that offers some help is here at #10 "What Do I Do if an Individual or Business Filed for Bankruptcy and Owes Me Money?":
http://www.cacb.uscourts.gov/cacb/welcome.nsf/information-selfsevicecenter-faq2?openpage#AF-B10
In summary
Download and fill out Form 10 Proof of Claim (see (1)). Be sure and ref the name United Law Group and case number 8:10-bk-18945-RK
Be sure to attach as much proof as possible (see (2)).
Mail it to the clerks office.
You will want to get it filed by October 1.
Might want to Google: how to file a proof of claim in bankruptcy "pro se"
for more info and examples. Several courts have "Creditors proceeding Pro Se" pages.
On 6/30/2010 United Law Group filed Chapter 11 Bankruptcy in Central CA case number 8:10-bk-18945-RK. Chapter 11 lets them file a plan and reorganize. You must file a Proof of Claim against their case to get your claim for refund on the case. You could go to the CACB court office nearest you, see http://www.cacb.uscourts.gov for office locations or mail it to the clerk.
The CDCA page that offers some help is here at #10 "What Do I Do if an Individual or Business Filed for Bankruptcy and Owes Me Money?":
http://www.cacb.uscourts.gov/cacb/welcome.nsf/information-selfsevicecenter-faq2?openpage#AF-B10
In summary
Download and fill out Form 10 Proof of Claim (see (1)). Be sure and ref the name United Law Group and case number 8:10-bk-18945-RK
Be sure to attach as much proof as possible (see (2)).
Mail it to the clerks office.
You will want to get it filed by October 1.
Might want to Google: how to file a proof of claim in bankruptcy "pro se"
for more info and examples. Several courts have "Creditors proceeding Pro Se" pages.
On 6/30/2017 United Law Group filed Chapter 11 Bankruptcy in Central CA case number 8:10-bk-18945-RK. Chapter 11 lets them file a plan and reorganize. You must file a Proof of Claim against their case to get your claim for refund on the case. You could go to the CACB court office nearest you, see http://www.cacb.uscourts.gov for office locations or mail it to the clerk.
The CDCA page that offers some help is here at #10 "What Do I Do if an Individual or Business Filed for Bankruptcy and Owes Me Money?":
http://www.cacb.uscourts.gov/cacb/welcome.nsf/information-selfsevicecenter-faq2?openpage#AF-B10
In summary
Download and fill out Form 10 Proof of Claim (see (1)). Be sure and ref the name United Law Group and case number 8:10-bk-18945-RK
Be sure to attach as much proof as possible (see (2)).
Mail it to the clerks office.
You will want to get it filed by October 1.
Might want to Google: how to file a proof of claim in bankruptcy "pro se"
for more info and examples. Several courts have "Creditors proceeding Pro Se" pages.
Now that the full bankruptcy petition has been filed we can see the kind of company that John Wright has been defending.
From the Form B7 ...
in MA Bk 10-1152 they were suesd by the US Trutee and lost and we required to return $7500 in fees plus fined $30, 000. They signed up a person for Loan Mod and got $4500 from them. No mod happened, they told victim they had to file bankruptcy. For another $3000 they prepared the BK and sent it to them. The case was prepared from just a questionaire, the victim never spoke to an attorney at ULG. No attorney at ULG signed the petition, they did not fill up the preparer info either. All not legal so the judgement to return fees plus $30, 000 in fines. None of it paid.
In GA Middle pretty much the exact same deal as case# 10-70527.
Similar complaints in
GA North 10-67870 judgement $2100.
AZ 10-10322 fined $5300, 10-6597 $2600
Also in KY; NY; WA; OH $202, 205; PA, IN, FL, AL
The story in the case proceedings I read from MA and GA-M matches up what the original poster said. They file your case but then never represent you. They actually don't file the case, they send you the papers to file Pro Se. All this prepared without talking to an Attorney. None of these victims will ever get any money.
I wonder if these companies with big claims on the ULG bankruptcy (Brookstone, Black Gold Leasing, Zec Management, Century Law) are just there to suck up all the money so victims cannot get it.
So John Wright I'm glad you had such success. The bankruptcy points to suits that details just how bad ULG was to debtors and loan mod people.
Documents filed in BK court show that what is stated here is true.
In ULG bankruptcy CAC 8:10-bk-18945 the Chapter 7 Trustee on 9/27 filed an Emergency Motion that states records seized show:
ULG subleased a protion of their space to Damian Kutzner and Serious Pimp.
Damian Kutzner is COO of ULG.
Kutzner was paid $28, 000 per month from ULG ! "while attorneys were paid significantly less"
Trustee also states that Kutner has been removing property and has filed an Adversary case against him to get that property back.
Vito Torchia, Jr filed a declaration opposing so he is certainly part of the firm and the mess. In it he states he's managing partner of Brookstone Law, and also subtenant of ULG. So the Brookstone 1999 Avenue of the Stars adress published on the website (and at the CA bar) is not the real one. The way Vito tells it they are still doing work so they may still be filing BKs, could be doing work on ULGs existing cases. His email is vtj@brookstone-law.com.
If you were scammed by them you could try to file a proof of claim, you're probably waiting your time as there are some big state ordered fines ahead of you. Plus ULG listed a bunch of phony looking claims from a rent-an-adress in Vegas.
Documents filed in BK court show that Brookstone Law subleases space and operates out of ULG's offices and Vito Torchia runs it.
In ULG bankruptcy CAC 8:10-bk-18945 the Chapter 7 Trustee on 9/27 filed an Emergency Motion that states records seized show:
ULG subleased a protion of their space to Damian Kutzner and Serious Pimp
Kutzner and Serious Pimp paid no rent and may have gotten rent credits (?)
Kutzner is COO of ULG.
Kutzner was paid $28, 000 per month from ULG ! "while attorneys were paid significantly less"
Trustee also states that Kutzner has been removing property and has filed an Adversary case against him to get that property back.
Vito Torchia, Jr filed a declaration opposing so he is certainly part of the mess. In it he states he's managing partner of Brookstone Law, and also subtenant of ULG. So the Brookstone 1999 Avenue of the Stars adress published on the website (and at the CA bar) is not the real one. The way Vito tells it they are still doing work so they may still be filing BKs, could be doing work on ULGs existing cases. If you have questions about BL or ULG Vito's email is vtj@brookstone-law.com or try his asst Daniel email DKruid@brookstone-law.com.
This is all from public records.
If you're looking for an address ... public records from Damian Kutzner 's bankruptcy 8:08-bk-12656 in CA-Cen show:
Damian Robert Kutzner
511 Cliff Drive
Newport Beach, CA 92663
SSN / ITIN: xxx-xx-9470
here's a link to that
http://www.realtor.com/property-detail/511-Cliff-Dr_Newport-Beach_CA_92663_4d314d02
Kutzner filed bankruptcy in 2008 to get rid of the large judgements agaist him. I don't think it's worked because he did not get a discharge yet. As of Sept 2010 he's up for a 2004 examination which hopefully the US Trustee will finally nail down facts and assets. I don't think he ever attended a 341 meeting.
His bankruptcy is missing a lot of info that his Atty Kelly S. Johnson should have provided. Like his income for the prior 3 years is "unknown". Most assets have unknown values. Must have had some kind of income, he ran up Visa cards to over $125, 000. Johnson should be up for exam.
