Resolved International Marin aka Blue water Partnership Inc.Chuck Gebells FRAUD!!!

Just to let you folks that have been screewed over By International Marine, NMIG, Great Oaks Asset Managment ect... That Chuck Boy is open and up and running again as BLUEWATER PARTNERSHIP INC. The web site and the phones are active. Hope this one closes down before he gets too many more people. He took me for about 100k. GO GET HIM!!

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    Bluewater_partner Mar 12, 2010

    We will make one, and ONLY one comment. We at Bluewater Partnership are not, or have EVER benn affiliated with the above companies, or this 'Chuck boy'. If any person wants to research, they should! It really takes a small minded person to write false information on anyone! The person who wrote this false accusation is probably 'Chucky boy' Himself

    -Bluewater Partnership Group, LLC.

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    Dale F Mar 16, 2010

    I am working with Bluewater right now, so far they have been good to work with.

    I just requested my deposit back, not because any thing that I have read, but I have found a boat and financing on my own.

    I will up date this blog, with good or bad input, depending on getting my deposit back.

    Dale F

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    DocHoliday 16 Mar 29, 2010

    I have had my 2003 Sea Ray Sundancer though there program since June of 2009 and so far all of the payments have been made on time. I have no complaints yet and if everything goes accordingly they will have saved me approximately $15, 000 that I would have had to pay the bank for my negative equity. As far as I know there isn't even a Chuck that works at Bluewater Partnership Group. I think this guy is just hating on the company for whatever reason.

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    Dale and Kathy May 25, 2010

    That's funny. "Chuck" doesn't work there, ey? Well, I called this morning and I asked for "Chuck" knowing full well that he now goes by the alias "Skip" and the male receptionist said, yup, just a minute" then he caught himself and said, "no Chuck here" and hung up on me!! Way funny. You got some smart ones working for you now Chuck, don't you. They are proving to be your downfall and demise!! Lovin' it!! Make sure that you screen who you hire, you never know who is looking for a job now do you!! Better do some pretty heavy background checks because you may have already hired your downfall, dummy!!

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    HelpSellBoat May 25, 2010
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    Need some info - is this a legit deal or not? Hearing both sides.

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    HelpSellBoat May 25, 2010
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    Is this company Bluewater legit or not? Nd to sell my boat and they are pounding my door down .

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    Cornholed May 28, 2010
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    Just some information for those who were screwed NMIG, International Marine, that pompus [censor]#$%^ aka, CD, Chuck, Charles, Skip (how appropriate) or any othe name he used to elude people he screwed. It appears that he is alive and well as Bluewater partnership group llc.
    If you go to the Michigan Dept of energy, labor and economic growth, CHARLES SABELLA IS THE RESIDENT AGENT FOR BOTH COMPANYS.
    Lets hear the response to that.

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    gooddave Jun 04, 2010

    I sold my car through Bluewater Partnership. Never had a problem got it paid off. Payments on time. I mentioned it to my cousin who has (had) a nice Grady White boat and he put it through the program and has had no problems. Sounds like sour grapes to me.

    Brett Cunningham

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    'chuckyboy?' Jun 05, 2010

    Dale and Kathy, why don't you call me. This is Skip. And I can assure you that there is no one by the name of Chuck here. So give me a call, and let me know why you are making false accusations about someone you don't even know? I heard about when you called from the Gentleman. You asked for me first, then hung up. Then you called back, and asked for 'chuck'. When my associate told you there was no chuck here, you insisted on talking to him. So give me a call, and let's straighten this out.

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    truthseeker13 Jun 06, 2010
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    Here is the link to the business registration page of Blue Water Partnership, Inc. cited above by 'Cornholed'. It shows both the name (Charles Sabella) and the address (35005 Automation Drive | Clinton Township, MI) of the company in question.

    http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/bcs_corp/dt_llc.asp?id_nbr=D27128&name_entity=BLUE%20WATER%20PARTNERSHIP%20GROUP%20LLC

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    confused66 Jun 11, 2010
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    "chuckieboy" funny how you say there is no chuck at blue water, but when you were at international marine, you went by charles, cd, chuck and skip. Now you say there is a "skip" at blue water.
    When you call blue water and ask for charles sabella the "new guy" says, can I ask who is calling? Charles is listed as the resident agent for the company. I would think that someone working for a company would know who the owner of the business is. After a long hold a guy claiming to be dave goodman answered the phone and i asked to speek to charles, of course no charles i then said how about skip, no such person here, ok then what name is chuck, cd, charles or skip going by now? None by any of those names work or have worked for blue water. If that is so how is charles sabella listed as resident agent for both, the reply i got? hung up one.
    You know how the saying goes if appears to be and smells like hores*&%$, it probably is. people just be very careful.

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    WOODBUTCHER Jun 11, 2010

    Resident agent is listed as David Goodman?? where do you see a Charles or Chuck?

    Searched for: BLUE WATER PARTNERSHIP GROUP LLC

    ID Num: D27128

    Name:BLUE WATER PARTNERSHIP GROUP LLC

    Type: Domestic Limited Liability Company
    Resident Agent: DAVID GOODMAN

    Registered Office Address: 35005 AUTOMATION DR CLINTON TWP MI 48035
    Mailing/Office Address:

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    truthseeker13 Jun 12, 2010
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    The name Charles Sabella was just removed on June 8, 2010 and replaced with David Goodman. Here is the link to the corporate documents that were changed.

    http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/bcs_corp/results.asp?ID=D27128&page_name=llc

    Click on the first document to see the change (the camera icon on the left hand side). On page 2 of the first document listed you will see both names, with David Goodman replacing Charles Sabella.

    Here is a link that brings you directly into the Change of Registered Agent document:

    http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/bcs_corp/image.asp?FILE_TYPE=ELF&FILE_NAME=D2010062010159E0091638.TIF

    Again, the information is on Page 2.

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    CONFUSED123456 Jun 13, 2010

    SOMETHING STILL SMELLS...NOW CHANGING THE RESIDENT AGENT ??????

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    buddyglov Jun 28, 2010

    I have done many transactions over the past few years with the Bluewater Partnership Group. I have sent them thousands of dollars worth of property and saved myself thousands of dollars doing so!
    They have always treated me with respect and honesty. I have also sent Bluewater many of my business associates to do business with them, and never had any problems.
    I don't usually go on complaint boards, as most of the other happy clients. (It's alyas the same, sour, unhappy people writing things on these boards)
    The hardworking, honest guys at the Bluewater Group are getting a bad repuation for no reason. That's why I wrote this comment. I know there are some bad people out there, but the crew at Bluewater are not!

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    Blue Water Skeptic Jun 29, 2010

    truthseeker, please email me, I am looking to work with them and would like to speak to you [email protected] thanks man!

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    [email protected] Jul 23, 2010

    Hello everyone I work with Bluewater Partnership Group and I want you all to think about one thing if you are contemplating on using our company to purchase a Boat, Vehicle or RV. First off we have well over 100 accounts between Boats, Cars and RVs and I can give you names and phone numbers for every single one of them. Just ponder one this for a good second... If this company has that many accounts and we really were screwing people, don't you think we would have alot more than 1 Guy, who isn't even a client of ours and never has been might I add, complaining? I don't know who this guy is, nor does my boss. Don't let this jerk steer you away from getting the Boat, Car or RV of your dreams. Call me directly if you have any questions.

    Vinny
    (877)791-2612 ext. 20

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    vinny is a thug Jul 30, 2010

    Stay away from this Bluewater Partnership Inc, International Marine, NMIG, Great Oaks Asset Managment ect!! Vinny go to HELL!!! You and your thugs stole from my family and screwed with my kids lively hood!

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    vinny is a thug Jul 30, 2010

    HERE IS ANOTHER NAME THERE ARE GOING BY NOW!!! Platinum Image Motor Sports

    www.platinumimagemotorsports.com

    www.bluewaterpartnership.com

    GO TO CLASSMATES.COM AND YOU WILL FIND THEM ALL THERE!! Karen Thomas Gebell and Charles V Gebell

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    vinny is a thug Jul 30, 2010

    http://www.superpages.com/bp/Clinton-Township-MI/Platinum-Image-Motor-Sports-L2122465105.htm?SRC=bpo?dls=true#BPreviewContainer

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    Dgoodmanexec Aug 04, 2010

    David Goodman, CEO Bluewater Partnership

    Now I see how false rumors can escalate and harm innocent people. One person states (with NO proof) this company is tied in with another company that had problems. No foundation. The only common ground between ourselves and international is being in the same state and selling the same products. Thats ALL. My staff and I urge ANYONE contemplating doing business with us, or ANY other company for that matter, to check with solid sources. The BBB (B+ Rating), Michigan Chamber of Commerce (Gold Client), and Dunn and Bradstreet (B Rating). To add, we also have many business references that can be checked. We have been doing this for over 5 years without problems. PLEASE do your do diligence. We are here to help YOU. Thank you.


    P.S. With our contracts, buyers and sellers work together with us as MONITORS. So we don't handle ANY money.

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  • JUST REMEMBER YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO PAY . ALSO CHUCK IM GOING TO PUT YOUR HOME ADDRESS ON HERE IN HARRISON TOWNSHIP, MICHIGAN. DONT DROP THE SOAP NO ONE CARES HOW OLD YOU ARE, YOU KNOW YOUR GOING TO JAIL, YOU AND DEREK. MAY GOD BE WITH YOU.

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  • PLEASE DONT BUY ANYTHING FROM, THEM

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    Bubba and Chuckie BFF Aug 13, 2010
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    I dealt with International Marine and found out from a very very very reliable source that Chuck is running Blue Water Partnership. He can not run and hide, still owes me money and I got an email from someone today to passed on the news its going to Federal Court all his issues...Bubba move over Chuckies coming soon, and that could be literally if Bubba has his way, best hope theres lotsa soap there. Lucky for me I caught on, [censor] costed me huge amounts of overdraft fees on the bad checks, still owes me, and got a huge down payment on my vehicle that never got applied to my vehicle, Ive since taken the vehicle back from the people who they literally did a contract with and guess what I NEVER signed it but yet I am the owner of the vehicle, so yet another fraud...did you ever think about the fact your signing checks and money orders with other peoples names and cashing them for your own use and how that is FRAUD...you will get your day!!! I even know someone who pretended to have a vehicle to sell just to see how and who everyone was, and guess what...ITS Chuckie and Nathan...go figure and I see they are using someone else (Nathan I think) as a picture for Chucks myspace, etc...Nice try boys we all know who you are, where you are and what youve done you will get your day so quit tryin to fool people...Id be glad to share my whole story and all the others I know about so DO YOURSELF A FAVOR RUN, RUN AWAY AND DO NOT EVER ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH ANY OF HIS COMPANIES. There might be a handful of lucky people who he treats right but most he wont. I ended up playing repo on my own vehicle, but lucky for me they took care of the payments themselves, but ran the truck into the ground with repairs.

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    Bubba and Chuckie BFF Aug 13, 2010
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    I know for a fact International Marine and Blue Water are both owned by Chuckie...DO NOT EVER DO BUSINESS WITH THEM. I unfortunatley did and had I not been on top of it all and vigilant I would be in a much worse situation. They sent their employee out to buy from me, then sold the car off to another person by contract of which I did not sign, they did. Took money as a down payment, put it in their pockets, then wrote lots of bad checks that cost my bank lots of overdrafts. I also was informed that this whole ordeal is going FEDERAL so Bubba move over Chuckies coming soon and that could be literally so make sure theres lots of soap on hand...Im a lucky victim because I stayed on top of it all but I know and have talked to many who were not so lucky. Chuck is a black hearted heartless [censor] who pockets lots of the income to support his own life and I know that for a fact, you left a money order Chuckie in one of the vehicles and you crossed out who the money order was meant for and wrote the yacht club membership over it...yet another tactful way they spend your money, how about the money orders and checks you sign other peoples signatures to did you not realize that is FRAUD???? I know you signed my name and if and when court comes up, I will be there. You and your crownies deserve to be put away reeping on the recession and people trying to save their credit and cant afford their truck, car, boat or camper and they intrust you to handle a true business agreement but what they dont know is they are signing their items and souls to the devil himself. I cant wait to hear your in jail, and your wife should go too cause she is just as much a party to your illegal activities as you and Nathan are. Everything you read on these boards is 100% true, if you want more info email me at [email protected] I can give you more people to talk to and hear their stories, in fact I can have you talk to the cops, the attorneys and I hear now Federal people who can also tell you no one is lieing here, but Chuckie is trying to save face and [censor], good idea cause Bubba will love a nice white boy with a tight [censor]!!! Dale/Kathy, Seth, myself and many many more...all victims to your game, not no more!!!

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    Bubba and Chuckie BFF Aug 13, 2010
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    I know for a fact International Marine and Blue Water are both owned by Chuckie...DO NOT EVER DO BUSINESS WITH THEM. I have a name of a officer you can talk to who can confirm this for you right away, and an attorney who can also confirm this too. I unfortunatley did and had I not been on top of it all and vigilant I would be in a much worse situation. They sent their employee out to buy from me, then sold the car off to another person by contract of which I did not sign, they did. Took money as a down payment, put it in their pockets, then wrote lots of bad checks that cost my bank lots of overdrafts. I also was informed that this whole ordeal is going FEDERAL so Bubba move over Chuckies coming soon and that could be literally so make sure theres lots of soap on hand...Im a lucky victim because I stayed on top of it all and took back my vehicle but I know and have talked to many who were not so lucky. Chuck is a black hearted heartless [censor] who goes by so many names, nicknames, alias names and pockets lots of the income to support his own life and I know that for a fact, you left a money order Chuckie in one of the vehicles you passed on to someone else and you crossed out who the money order was meant for and wrote the yacht club membership over it (guess what it got ripped up so your dues were not paid)...yet another tactful way they spend your money, how about the money orders and checks you sign other peoples signatures to did you not realize that is FRAUD???? I know you signed my name without consent and without contract and if and when court comes up, I will be there. You and your crownies deserve to be put away reeping on the recession and people trying to save their credit and cant afford their truck, car, boat or camper and they intrust you to handle a true business agreement but what they dont know is they are signing their items and souls to the devil himself. I cant wait to hear your in jail, and your wife should go too cause she is just as much a party to your illegal activities as you and Nathan are. Everything you read on these boards is 100% true, if you want more info email me at [email protected] I can give you more people to talk to and hear their stories, in fact I can have you talk to the cops, the attorneys and I hear now Federal people who can also tell you no one is lieing here, but Chuckie is trying to save face and [censor], good idea cause Bubba will love a nice white boy with a tight [censor]!!!

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    spaarky Aug 18, 2010
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    I am considering a boat, I make plenty to afford one, just after two divorces my credit leaves a bit to be desired. Working as an electronics technician on the offshore rigs provides me with plenty of time off work to drive where I need to check up on a company, and physically put my eyes on a vessel prior to purchase. Accusing someone is one thing, however, this person has presented some facts, that may or may not even apply to this company. I would suggest you investigate both the company AND the accuser prior to making a decision. In the meantime I am going to go to the place of buisness and meet with a human being before I decide to spend tens of thousands of dollars on anything.

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    Daves2275 Aug 30, 2010

    My Name is Dave Thomas and I've purchased a boat from Bluewater and have yet to have any issues or problems. They have treated me with the utmost respect and honesty and I would recommend them to anyone.

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    just to let you know Sep 07, 2010
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    JUST TO LET YOU KNOW!!! I ran across an add on Craigslist in Louisville Kentucky of a horse trailer-Take Over Payments-Call Nick. 1st time I talked to him(who I think was Nick) just to get basic info about trailer. After 3 weeks and talking to my husband we decided to look into getting this trailer. Called back to a recording I couldn't understand.Called back several times and left messages, no return call.Wondering what the lady on the recording was saying, I used reversed number look up. The number belongs to this Blue water in Michigan.Googled it and found this site.So I do not know what to think.But so far I don't know if there is a "NICK", a horse trailer or what? I do believe in telling the truth and I will follow up and let you know one way or the other.

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    vinny is a thug Sep 08, 2010

    I have looked at the website /link removed/ and I don't see ONE complaint HOW CAN THAT BE??? THEY HAVE SCAMMED SO MANY PEOPLE. IF YOU HAVE POSTED HERE PLEASE POST THERE TOO!! maybe this would stop chucky boy.

    PLEASE VISIT /link removed/ AND POST THERE TOO!!! The website is followed by the BBB and other government agencies.

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    G.... Sep 22, 2010

    These guys just called me about my Mercedes - after putting my car on swap-a-lease I have gotten several other calls from similar sketchy people. THIS IS MOST LIKELY A SUB-LEASE. It is a SCAM - ALL BEWARE - I have heard horrible stories about sub leases.

    G

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    duediligence23 Oct 14, 2010

    To: David Goodman and anyone else on this board who may or may not be skeptical about these Organizations' business practices...
    Just FYI, the resident agent for BLUE WATER PARTNERSHIP AND PLATINUM IMAGE MOTORSPORTS is DAVID GOODMAN.

    The Articles of Organization for PLATINUM IMAGE MOTORSPORTS list CHARLES GEBELL as the original organizer with an address of 30901 UTICA ROAD, 48066:
    http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/bcs_corp/image.asp?FILE_TYPE=ELF&FILE_NAME=D2007082007215E0101617.TIF.
    It was later changed to ROBERT BOYAR and then a restoration into DAVID GOODMAN's name with an address of 35005 AUTOMATION DRIVE, 48035:
    http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/bcs_corp/image.asp?FILE_TYPE=ELF&FILE_NAME=D2010042010092E0090136.TIF. Coincidentally enough, BLUE WATER PARTNERSHIP's address is 35005 Automation Drive, 48035.
    Interesting that KAREN GEBELL is the resident agent for INTERNATIONAL MARINE AND AUTOMOTIVE INVESTMENTS:
    http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/bcs_corp/image.asp?FILE_TYPE=ELF&FILE_NAME=D2004062004167E0164752.TIF. Coincidentally enough INTERNATIONAL MARINE AND AUTOMOTIVE INVESTMENTS' address with the BBB is listed as 30901 UTICA ROAD, 48066 with an F RATING due to 31 complaints:
    http://www.bbb.org/eastern-michigan/business-reviews/investment-advisory-service/international-marine-automobile-inc-in-roseville-mi-38001739/

    There are obvious ties between CHARLES GEBELL and at least the three organizations listed above but they continue to deny it, WHY? I'm sure that there is alot more research that can be done but I've spent enough time and this is enough information to give me good enough reason to not do business with them. There has been an awful lot of cover up for these organizations as well as on this board by employees, managers, and principals of Bluewater Partnersip BUT...
    You make your own decision!!!

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    duediligence23 Oct 14, 2010

    http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/international-marine-and-auto-c135277.html

    Just one more post from me and I'm done. I just don't want to see an innocent person get taken, see the link above... Take heed and do the research due diligence is the only good advice you've received from David Goodman at the top of this page.

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    duediligence23 Oct 14, 2010

    http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/international-marine-amp-auto-investment-inc-c83490.html

    I guess one more won't hurt. If anyone is still looking and haven't figured it out by now, they must not value their property so much. These are all the same companies and ownership...

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    William R Moore Feb 12, 2011

    Bluewater has been Professional, truthful and done exactly what they say there going to do. My expierience has been good and believe it will remain that way. I would recomend them if asked.
    William R. Moore IV

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    Ed2adam Mar 20, 2011

    Chuck Gebell IS DEFINITELY affiliated with Blue Water Partnership. He stole $16, 000 from me and I will get my money before I leave this Earth!

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    PoorSkipV Apr 02, 2011

    What goes around comes around!
    Blue water and Platinum Image are too worry about the comments. Why?Because they know that they are involved in many frauds.
    I will tell you how they work : Seller sends its car or boat, etc to them hoping that they are going to take care of it like a serious company and the buyer starts sending checks to Platinum Image, Equity Management or Blue water monthly payments from which the company send every 3 months only 1 little payment to the bank, the other 2 or 3 monthly payments SKIP, DAVID, KAREN, CD puts them on their pocket. Very smart! When the seller starts complaining, SKIP Says: "Let me work the magic" and send 1 payment to cool the waters.
    Too bad that everybody knows who you are and the abuses are going to be over SOON.
    People please this is a temporary solution that they are offering, DO NOT DO BUSINESS with them. After all they cause more problems that what you can imagine.

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    PoorSkipV Apr 02, 2011

    Dear : David Goodman, CEO Bluewater Partnership
    I hope you can sleep at night because if you cannot soon in jail you will be able to rest all day.
    After using all the people's money and making so many frauds you will find peace. You still have a chance to run your business the right way, make a good decision.

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    BluewaterScamdealer Apr 02, 2011

    Blue water Partnership LLC make the contracts just to receive your car and get money from another poor soul and they don't send the payment to the bank. The contracts agreements are ILLEGAL!
    If you have a car loan, the bank Prohibits subleasing, and they will not accept the excuse that you have a contract with this type of company. beware if payments are late and if the bank orders repo your car, they will never find it and you are responsible for all the debts.

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    takeaction001 Apr 02, 2011

    If you can do not use this people, but if you want to try ...
    please do the followings:
    Install a GPS tracking device that they don't know exist.
    and keep a set of keys for you!
    So you can be prepared for the outcome.
    Good luck!

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