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International Marin aka Blue water Partnership Inc. review: Chuck Gebells FRAUD!!! 74

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Just to let you folks that have been screewed over By International Marine, NMIG, Great Oaks Asset Managment ect... That Chuck Boy is open and up and running again as BLUEWATER PARTNERSHIP INC. The web site and the phones are active. Hope this one closes down before he gets too many more people. He took me for about 100k. GO GET HIM!

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HwyCop
PSL, US
Sep 08, 2015 3:41 pm EDT
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Chuck died last month before he could be prosecuted for fraud. U.S. Postal Service just contacted me.

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HAR
Garnet Valley, US
Sep 08, 2015 3:12 pm EDT

US postal Inspection Service:
"...Charles Gebell passed away on August 5, 2015."

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HAR
Garnet Valley, US
Sep 08, 2015 3:11 pm EDT

Guess What!
Gebell, Charles V. "Skip" August 5, 2015 Age 69
Beloved husband of Karen.
Dear father of Mark, Amber, Derek, David, and Vincent.
Grandfather of 6
Brother of Summer.
Memorial Gathering at the St. Clair Shores Chapel of Bagnasco & Calcaterra Funeral Home 25800 Harper Ave. (3 blks N. of 10 mile) Sunday 3:00 pm to 8:00pm with a 7:15 PM Prayer Service.
Memories shared at www.bcfh.com

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Robert T. White
, US
Sep 07, 2015 5:16 pm EDT

All of these companies were Ponzi schemes that the Gebells ran with the utmost dishonesty and efficiency. While a small few benefited, the majority like myself got screwed out of our assets. When funds ran out, they would file bankruptcy and start over again. Sad part is Michigan's Attorney General knew about them, but did nothing. After years of filings and lawsuits, I finally won a case against them for a fraction of the cost of my boat. If you google Charles Gebell Michigan you will see my court settlement as the fourth or fifth return. However true to form, they never paid. The only good that has come out of it is that the con artist passed away August 8. May he burn forever!

For those of you who were con'd and have not been contacted by the US Department of Justice, please contact them and ask that VNS - Case Number: 1879508-MF be continued against Karen Gebell.

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Patrick Ursomano
, US
Sep 04, 2015 1:21 pm EDT

Charles Gebell defrauded me out of $1000 under the name International Marine and Auto Investments. I received a letter from the Postal Inspector informing that the investigation was being dropped because he died in August. While I am happy he is dead, I know his family benefited from his many fraudulent companies and believe they should be pursued. His wife Karen Gebell was deeply involved in his activities.

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Dale and Kathy
Cable, US
Jan 30, 2013 6:38 pm EST

they wont learn .and look at your contract it said arbatration that is what has been saving there ### i wish you luck you will need it.call the number i listed [protected] i guess they are going to help us .it is now federal so lets hope we all get our money back im out 23, 000 my self.good luck

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John Maharaj
Coconut Creek, US
Jan 30, 2013 1:59 pm EST
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I too have been screwed for $4000 from SC Marine & RV. They took my money and disappeared after I paid the money and was prepared to go pickup the supposed boat. Like clockwork, the boat came off the site and they told me "the customer must have backed out, " knowing all well that there obviously was no boat and they were just out to take my money. I will be filing a law suit against these people and I will go the full extent even if I don't recover anything from the situation they should learn a lesson.

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Dale and Kathy
Cable, US
Jan 28, 2013 5:19 pm EST

my name is dale krajenka i have big problems with all of these complaints LIST YOUR NAME AND PHONE NUMBER chuck screwed me over aka skip ect my number is [protected] he owes me 22, 000$ and i want it . anybody that has not been screwed by him are local people that can go there and kick his ### ..if you want help with this matter of being screwed by chuck. call [protected] they are going to try and help us.it dont hurt to call time will tell nobody eles is helping

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RVowner
El Paso, US
Jan 28, 2013 10:52 am EST

Bluewater Recreation and all its entities are in fact fraudulent. Do not engage in business with them as you will loose! They are currently under investigation by the US Postal Inspection Service and other legal entities. Call [protected] if you have been scammed by these guys are just want to confirm their legitimacy. There is no place for slimy people like Charles Gebell in this world!

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LUISC23
Miami, US
Jan 09, 2013 11:52 am EST

Hi I am currently in the process of a lawsuit who ever is interested in helping out can contact me at lcguerra@live.com

My case: I purchased a boat from a gentleman down in Michigan thru SC MARINE & RV (one of the many companies of these ###) I gave my 3 month deposit and have been paying my boat on time for the last 7 month. I recently got a call from the owner who said to me that Bluewaters had told him that I haven't been making my payments and that I have been giving NSF checks to them? Which is Ridiculous because they take the money out of my account or used to.

Well the fact is that they haven't paid the owner for about 4 month and they have my 3 months of deposit, and the 10% of the amount of the loan which they charged as dealer fees and this totals about 8k.

I am willing to spend whatever money it takes to sink these ### like the TITANIC.

Contact me if you have been scammed by them and will like your money back.

lcguerra@live.com

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JonGalt
Dallas, US
Dec 26, 2012 8:01 pm EST

Coast to coast, Blue water group South coast Marine all share the same DNA. They find desperate buyers and take their cash. This down payment is a fee and not used to help the buyers credit or the sellers equity. When it comes time to get something out of the deal like shipping or service. Good luck. I wouldn't trust this scam for a second. Sean Vincent- Danielle- Kate-DC all in the scam.

Best case scenario- They take the buyers down and collect a fee on every payment. They might pay your loan back to the bank.
They will not provide any service after they collect the funds. They simply disappear. Conveniently they develop health conditions that prevent them from returning a call.

I have an attorney that will take this on. If you need to contact me please do so at jonmaxgalt @gmail.com

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imbryan
Detroit, US
Nov 01, 2012 5:39 am EDT

More info on Charles Gebell, a lawsuit that he lost when he ran Internatonal Marine & Auto Investments, inc.
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/michigan/miedce/2:2010cv10600/246360/
Charles Gebell now runs Equitable Monetary Instruments (EMI), the financial arm to David Goodman's companies Blue Water Partnership / Blue Water Recreation, and likely the new name "EZ2Buyllc"

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imbryan
Detroit, US
Oct 30, 2012 8:13 am EDT

File a complaint with the Michigan State Attorney General, Consumer Affairs Division - they will be involved since this company is located in MI.
File a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) - they will be involved since this is a multi state scam

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imbryan
Detroit, US
Oct 30, 2012 8:00 am EDT

File your complaint with:
1. Michigan State Attorney General Consumer Affairs - they will be involved since company is located in Michigan
https://secure.ag.state.mi.us/complaints/consumer.aspx

2. Federal Trade Commission (FTC) - they will be involved since this is a multi state operation
https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en

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imbryan
Detroit, US
Sep 20, 2012 12:22 pm EDT

Their new company name is now ez2buyllc

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imbryan
Detroit, US
Sep 10, 2012 10:10 am EDT

Can we report our car stolen?

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chuckskipwhocares
macomb twp, US
Jul 03, 2012 12:46 pm EDT
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I am in the mist of dealing with these ### now. first off, I gave them 1000 to find me a boat. They send me pictures of this nice looking 28ft chaparral. I agree to get it, and it gets here and its a complete restoration job! The pics were from 2010! Wtf! So I declined that pos!, and began my search to find my own. I found a 271 formula fastech on this site http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/10327 and called the owner and come to find out, he was listed thru bluewater. So I negotiated everything with him directly before going in to do the paperwork. Went in and sat down with Craig, and started the paperwork. I gave these people $3000 cash, they gave me the paperwork to take with me to the seller to have him sign. They didn't fax it, mail it, I took it physically there myself. So Here it is, they have collected 3000 and done nothing! But hit print on a computer. Now can you believe they want another 1200 dollars! So I ask, where is the funds that are in escrow? I get told its none of mine or the Sellers business. And yes, I heave a great relationship with the seller. So now they are telling me I am in beach of contact, not for payments, but for fees that they did nothing for! So the manager CHAD tells me "I am coming to get MY boat" huh?, what?, your boat! Needless to say the seller and myself will be contacting attorneys and figuring out this MR, CHUCK, SKIP, WHO EVER THE HELL YOU ARE!

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Oh chuck
Jupiter Beach, US
May 29, 2012 2:17 am EDT

Skip's cell number [protected] they will never pay payment's on time EMI is owned by his wife Karen! They are all in the same building. BEWARE BEWARE BEWARE! They have a F rating with the BBB and they are all liars! Especially Chad, Vinny and Skip. Skip aka Chuck/Charles Gebell is Vinny's father.

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MRey
Somerville, US
May 23, 2012 9:42 am EDT
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Now when I try to call, they are called EZ2PAY...also where you are redirected on their web stie. I don't want to be malicious, not my nature. I just want to be treated fairly and for them to honor the contract I have with them on my car.

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MRey
Somerville, US
May 23, 2012 9:37 am EDT
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I have a transaction with Bluewater as a "selling partner". They picked up my car in mid-December and it has been difficult to get payments made on time since then. Bluewater/EMI has told me that if I want them made and on time, or if I'm that worried about it that I should pay it myself. I have been treated rudely by "Skip" and no one has been helpful. Payments through April have been made, but with late charges each month that have not been paid. The payment that was due on 5/9/12, has not yet been paid and yet another late fee incurred. I cannot get any response from EMI, who I was told I had to deal with, and "Skip" will tell me via text that he will check on it or address it "today", but it doesn't happen. Thinking this was a great way out of my car, I signed the contract, as did they. I purchased another car with a lesser payment thinking my other car was taken care of. I cannot afford to make both payments and "Skip" told me if I don't like the way things are to take my car back. Once they took my car, nothing has gone smoothly and communication as been limited and most times absent. Does anyone know how I can seek resolution for them to actually pay on time, every month per the contract we signed? When I addressed through the BBB of E.Michigan, I was told by Bluewater that they would not pay at all if I didn't close my claim against them. I don't want to play victim, just want them to do honorable business as was agreed upon. I didn't go into this agreement thinking I was going to struggle this much every month to hold them to the terms. If anyone can help...including anyone from the company monitoring this...please advise. I was weary from the beginning but reassured repeatedly by "Matt Martinez" and "Skip" that they were a long standing, legitimate business with many references. Can someone PLEASE HELP?!

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Angry Birds cometh
Boulder, US
May 16, 2012 10:41 pm EDT

We are coming for you chuckey.

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What up Chuck
Jupiter, US
May 09, 2012 1:17 am EDT

What I don't understand about this company is why do they keep changing there name if they are legit? International Marine, Bluewater Partnership Bluewater Recreation and now easy to buy! The funny thing is that I called Bluewater Recreation which is the "listing company" and talked to a young man there who also told me that South Coast Marine and RV and EMI are also in the same building. What is going on? It is obviously a family affair I also found out that Charles/Chuck/Skip is the really owner Vinny, CD and Dave are his son's and Karen is his wife. Karen runs South Coast Marine and RV and EMI. Chuck is there daily but for some reason must use an alias they all have several names!

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llcsfs
Birmingham, US
May 08, 2012 8:47 am EDT

They are scam artists. They even put pictures of other people's boat from boat trader. Beware people.

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cowboys forever
Overton, US
Apr 28, 2012 8:37 am EDT

well i agree blue water and platinum image are con artist..as for chucky boy aka skipper i will get my car back. skip as you know has screwed maney people around with his deals. ive been talked to like i was trash. my car payment has been late every month since skiper took over. ive asked for my car back repetedly ive asked the were abouts of my car and know one seens to know, but the jokes on you skipper ive located my car. i will do everything i can to see you put in prison for a very long time. i want my car think real hard skipper you know who this is. i hope you like prison

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Ms. Polly
Sterling Heights, US
Aug 30, 2011 12:43 pm EDT

I HAVE DEALT WITH THIS COMPANY FOR SOME TIME AND THE ONLY COMPLAINT I GOT WAS THEY NEED MORE VEHICLES! I HAVE FRIENDS AND FAMILY THAT HAVE DEALT WITH THEM AND WE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM! I DEAL WITH THE PUBLIC ALL DAY AND YOUR A RE GOING TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE PERSON TO COMPLAIN. MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN GOOD AND I WILL CONTINUE TO DO BUSINESS WITH THEM. REMEMBER THERE ARE THREE SIDES TO A STORY - HIS SIDE - HER SIDE AND THE TRUTH! GOOD LUCK BLUE WATER! MS. POLLY!

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Stopscamsbluewater
Detroit, US
Jul 13, 2011 9:20 pm EDT
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If you own your boat and want to sell it that's not a big deal. Make sure you receive your money and the check gets clear before releasing your boat to them. I do not exactly what you want. But I tell you I do not recomend them at all. I dont have a good feedback for them.

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Razor1643
West Palm Beach, US
Jul 12, 2011 1:39 am EDT

Alright... I listed my boat in the Boat trader a couple of days ago. Today, my message machine says a guy named Nick wants to ask me questions about the boat. I call back, they are closed... but I find out it is Bluewater Recreation Group. After a little searching, I find out it is Bluewater Partnership. Tell me what happens next if I talk to this guy? Are they going to want me to pay them to sell my boat? What's the scam? I own my boat free and clear.

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Stopscamsbluewater
Detroit, US
Apr 07, 2011 3:32 am EDT
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Charles Gebells

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Stopscamsbluewater
Detroit, US
Apr 07, 2011 3:31 am EDT
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Matt Martinez

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Detroit, US
Apr 07, 2011 3:31 am EDT
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Stopscamsbluewater
Detroit, US
Apr 07, 2011 3:30 am EDT
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Meet Robet Boyar

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Stopscamsbluewater
Detroit, US
Apr 07, 2011 3:23 am EDT
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Dave Goodman: You shouldn't post pictures of your stolen cars.
7 hours ago · 2 people.

Matt Martinez: your not suppose to tell people that lol.

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Stopscamsbluewater
Detroit, US
Apr 07, 2011 3:22 am EDT
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Look how the make fun of their job.

Read their comments
Dave Goodman: You shouldn't post pictures of your stolen cars.
7 hours ago · 2 people.

Matt Martinez: your not suppose to tell people that lol.

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NEW0101
Miami, US
Apr 03, 2011 2:01 am EDT

PLEASE PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH THIS COMPANIES
Blue water Partnership
Equity management investments
Platinum image motor sports
They are involve in so many frauds! BE careful !
if you need extra info please email me @ stopfraudbluewater@gmail.com

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takeaction001
Coral Gables, US
Apr 02, 2011 3:24 am EDT

If you can do not use this people, but if you want to try ...
please do the followings:
Install a GPS tracking device that they don't know exist.
and keep a set of keys for you!
So you can be prepared for the outcome.
Good luck!

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BluewaterScamdealer
Clinton Township, US
Apr 02, 2011 2:56 am EDT

Blue water Partnership LLC make the contracts just to receive your car and get money from another poor soul and they don't send the payment to the bank. The contracts agreements are ILLEGAL!
If you have a car loan, the bank Prohibits subleasing, and they will not accept the excuse that you have a contract with this type of company. beware if payments are late and if the bank orders repo your car, they will never find it and you are responsible for all the debts.

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PoorSkipV
Tampa, US
Apr 02, 2011 2:39 am EDT

Dear : David Goodman, CEO Bluewater Partnership
I hope you can sleep at night because if you cannot soon in jail you will be able to rest all day.
After using all the people's money and making so many frauds you will find peace. You still have a chance to run your business the right way, make a good decision.

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PoorSkipV
Tampa, US
Apr 02, 2011 2:26 am EDT

What goes around comes around!
Blue water and Platinum Image are too worry about the comments. Why?Because they know that they are involved in many frauds.
I will tell you how they work : Seller sends its car or boat, etc to them hoping that they are going to take care of it like a serious company and the buyer starts sending checks to Platinum Image, Equity Management or Blue water monthly payments from which the company send every 3 months only 1 little payment to the bank, the other 2 or 3 monthly payments SKIP, DAVID, KAREN, CD puts them on their pocket. Very smart! When the seller starts complaining, SKIP Says: "Let me work the magic" and send 1 payment to cool the waters.
Too bad that everybody knows who you are and the abuses are going to be over SOON.
People please this is a temporary solution that they are offering, DO NOT DO BUSINESS with them. After all they cause more problems that what you can imagine.

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Ed2adam
Atlanta, US
Mar 20, 2011 11:52 pm EDT

Chuck Gebell IS DEFINITELY affiliated with Blue Water Partnership. He stole $16, 000 from me and I will get my money before I leave this Earth!

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William R Moore
Humarock, US
Feb 12, 2011 7:58 pm EST

Bluewater has been Professional, truthful and done exactly what they say there going to do. My expierience has been good and believe it will remain that way. I would recomend them if asked.
William R. Moore IV

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