Top Dog Leasing/ Ron Hubbard / unlicensed rental fraud
My family has listed a rental property on Craigslist, under Los Angeles County.
We have received several calls at our listed telephone number by a robocaller for TopDogListing.com. Specifically, at least 3 three calls have come in from [protected] (Florida!), providing a call back number of [protected].
This number is for Top Dog Leasing in either Long Beach or Laguna Beach, California (both addresses are at mail box drop centers.)
I called that number immediately after receiving one of those robocalls. I spoke with a man who identified himself as Ron Hubbard. I asked him where he learned about our rental house listing and he responded: "CraigsList". He told me to "get a life" and hung up on me when I challenged him on the source of the listing and mentioned we are on the DNC list.
According to Craigslist's terms of service, no commercial use by third parties is to be made of information listed on their site.
We briefly researched this company. Hubbard's real estate license has been revoked by the California Dept. of Real Estate. His web site utilizes official Realtor agreements and contracts, none of which he is entitled to use. In fact, it is a criminal offense to hold ones' self out as a licensed agent if not licensed. He does not and cannot have a broker holding his license. I called an agent in Fountain Valley listed in the California Dept of Real Estate as "Topdog Leasing" (DRE license number [protected]) available on their on-line records system. He said that for a very brief period of time there was a business association, which was severed when Hubbard's business ethics (or lack thereof) became obvious.
Here is the DRE record on Hubbard:
Hubbard, Ronald W
273 MIRA MAR
LONG BEACH, CA 90803
Salesperson License Issued:
04/27/81 (Unofficial -- taken from secondary records)
Hubbard, Ronald Wayne
ACTIVE FROM 10/22/1996 TO 04/06/1998
NO CURRENT EMPLOYING BROKER
05/16/97 - H-27184 LA
06/10/97 - H-27188 LA D & R
04/07/98 - REVOKED-RIGHT TO RESTRICTED LICENSE
04/07/98 - RESTRICTED LICENSE SUSPENDED FOR 30 DAYS
05/09/03 - --R-3935
06/14/04 - --R-3998
09/15/04 - H-31298 LA
11/08/04 - SUSPENDED INDEFINITELY --per R-3998
05/26/05 - REVOKED
02/13/07 - H-33895 LA D & R
NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS
>>>> Public information request complete <<<<
Here is the interesting thing with Craigslist: I called them [protected]) and spoke with a gentleman who was less than interested in this matter. I informed him that his organization's own terms of service prohibited use of our information for 3rd party commercial gain. I asked him what they can/will do to prevent Hubbard from utilizing our information posted on Craigslist.org for his illegal commercial gain.
We certainly don't want him to illicitly copy our information and post it on his web site.
The response was that Craiglist is a "bulletin board" and they are not responsible for anything posted on it. He mentioned that possibly Hubbard's IP address could be blocked, but like a weed, Hubbard could pop up again utilizing a different computer having a different IP address. He also mentioned that law enforcement could get involved, but don't hold your breath.
Lastly, he mentioned that flagging each item as "prohibited" could get an item deleted, but he would not indicate the number of flags that would achieve that objective.
IN THE LAST SEVERAL DAYS WE HAVE NOTICED NEW LISTINGS BY HUBBARD, BOTH UNDER LOS ANGELES AND SEPARATELY UNDER SAN DIEGO, either as "Ron Dog" or as "RYAN". The number for "RYAN" is [protected].
Here is a list of some of the properties on Hubbard's web site. If you know the owners of any of these properties you would be doing them a valuable service in forwarding this information to them.
Aug 12 - $6900 / 3br - west hollywood living; 50 ft to sunset blv; art decco hm/ 30 days free - (west hollywood ) img
Aug 12 - $2300 / 2br - naples island luxory living ; lower duplex; 50 yards to bay - (long beach ) img
Aug 12 - $2300 / 2br - Fully furnished stunning penthouse - (Long Beach) img
Aug 12 - $20000 / 3br - Furnished Frank Lloyd Wright Mansion! - img
Aug 12 - $1600 / 2br - Amazing townhome in the art district in Long Beach! Get 30 days free rent! - img
Aug 10 - $2300 / 2br - naples island;quite beautiful and elegant duplex; walk to bay n shops - (long beach ) img
Aug 9 - $2300 / 3br - belmont hts 1920's regal home/ like new inside - (long beach ) img
Aug 9 - $3350 / 3br - once in a lifetime opportunity; - (pacific palisades ) img
Aug 9 - $6900 / 3br - west hollywood x stars home? pool+ 30 days free rent special - (hollywood ) img
Aug 8 - $2300 / 2br - naples; living on a dock of a bay; luxory duplex - (naples ) img
Aug 8 - $2300 / 2br - NAPLES ISLAND; WALK TO THE BAY AND SHOPS - (LONG BEACH ) img
Aug 8 - $6900 / 3br - hw; 30 days free rent; regal w hwood pool home; walk to sunset - (hollywood ) img
Aug 7 - $2300 / 2br - naples inland; grand living; lower duplex - (long beach ) img
Aug 7 - $3350 / 3br - mal, Live the Dream - Ocean View - Great Karma Great Energy - (Pacific Palisades / Malibu) img
Aug 6 - $3000 / 3br - Hot August Special - Stunning Townhome near Melrose Avenue - (Los Angeles) img
Aug 6 - $3000 / 3br - wla; stunning art decco town home; walk to melrose ave - (los angeles ) img
Aug 6 - $2300 / 2br - lb; stunning duplex on Naples Island; pristine condition - (long beach ) img
Aug 3 - $1800 / 2br - Beautiful 2 bdrm duplex - (Wilshire/Hancock Park) pic
Aug 1 - $3350 / 3br - la, Live the Dream - Ocean View - Great Karma Great Energy - (Pacific Palisades / Malibu) pic img
Aug 1 - $3000 / 3br - This is What City Living is All About - (North Hollywood) pic img
Aug 1 - $30000 / 4br - Million Dollar Perfection! - (Beverly Hills) pic img
Aug 1 - $35000 / 4br - Architectural Dream .. Incredible Modern Living! - (Beverly Hills) pic img
Aug 1 - $5900 / 4br - Luxurious 2 Story Mansion In BelAir High Class Surrcenter. Four Bed - (Belair) pic img
Aug 1 - $8500 / 5br - Amazing Brand New Tuscan Estate Pool Home on a Sprawling 22, 000 sq ft - (Tarzana) pic img
Aug 1 - $17500 / 5br - furnished or unfurnished brentwood tuscany pool home! - (Brentwood) img
Aug 1 - $7000 / 4br - Imagination and elegance with original inovation+ ck out the video - (Brentwood) pic img
Aug 1 - $1995 / 2br - 30 Days Free Rent.Surrounded by nature, peace and tranquility.Hardwoods - (West Hills) img
Aug 1 - $3000 / 5br - Live on your own ponderosa. Horse Trails. Spacious home.Large backyard - (Chatsworth) img
Aug 1 - $6900 / 3br - Amazing hollywood pool home. Walk to the Sunset Strip.Ck Video - (Hollywood) img