K-Designers / Judson Enterprises
Reviews and Complaints

I hired k designers to replace the framing, trim, and windows.   The person the sent out cut through support beams and didn't replace any of the wood.  The windows were smaller by a couple inches than the area they were installed.  He didn't use shims and just used screws and made it fit.  When the wind blows it comes through the windows.   If there is wind when it's raining or snowing, rain and snow come through the windows.   None of the framing or interior trim was replaced.   These are the ugliest windows I've ever seen.  The product that was shown at the initial visit was not the product that was installed.   I had to go to work the day of the window work and left my boyfriend to stay at the house until the work was done.  The contract was with me not my boyfriend.   The contactor had told my boyfriend that he was not leaving until the papers were signed.  I work in long term care so leaving my job was not an option.   I wanted someone to come back to sign any end of project paperwork.   The guy bullied my boyfriend into signing the paperwork.  I had the windows done at the beginning of December and I have yet to see the project completed.  Phone calls to the local office is getting no where. I asked for a itemized receipt because I paid for wood work in addition to windows.  They refuse do finish the job. I was told that the framing and trim was the home owners problem even though I hired k designers to do that work.  This company is a big time scam.

i was approached by a k-designer rep to buy windows. i was so highly pressured and could not get rid of the sales person until i signed a contract for an outrageous amount of money. i am 82 and was so tired of his spiel that i could not get rid of him. he just plopped down at my table and would not leave until i signed to contract and then they had the audacity to call me and ask if i was sane enough to do a transaction. i feel they took advantage of an elderly person. i windows have not been installed yet and they threatened with putting a lean on my house. i waited until april and this was november and they never called or anything so i had another construction company get me windows. i waited 6 months and no windows. they want $10,000 for their windows and i got them with the other construction company for $2,600 installed.

After a marketing representative visited us, we agreed to have our windows replaced. That was in December of 2020. Here it is almost July of 2021 and we are still waiting for our windows to be finished being replaced. It has been a nightmare. The project was supposed to take one day. They have been to our house 5 different times now with problems every time including the last time being here breaking 1 of the new windows they were putting in which is still installed and still broken. The problems began the 1st day of work. Wrong windows, Wrong measurements, wrong sliding doors, missing windows. The sliding glass doors were incorrectly ordered. we agreed to keep 1 and just switch out the way it opened to make things easier. It has just been a nightmare. We have called and called and called, usually getting no response, getting promises, setting appointments to come back and finish the project with no follow through. nobody shows up, there's no call, we take the day off to be here and we have no clue what's going on. The only benefit is that they told us we would not have to make a payment until the installation was complete and because it was never completed we have literally threaten to Sue them and forced K design to issue a check every month since December to make that payment because as soon as they got their money from the lender that's when all of the lack of communication started then never coming back to finish and they pretty much are done with us. The job still is not done and we're still waiting for the rest of our windows. I have never regretted a home improvement project more. DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY.

Several years ago we had new siding and windows done. We were very unhappy with the performance of the workers that the company sent to do the job. The job had to be done over because the first installation was done wrong. Windows were ordered in the wrong sizes and color, the wrong type of windows(they were for a stucco home, which we do not have) and instead of re ordering the correct kind, they tried altering them until we told them that we would not accept that and made them reorder. The dumpster that they ordered sat at our home for almost a month after they left. The mess they left around our home was horrendous with nails and pieces of siding, old scraps of wood, glass, cigarette butts, etc. 6 months later the siding started falling off! Confronting the company did no good. We spoke with other people who went thru their company and found that there were issues with almost all of them. We tried to ban together to fight them, spoke with the Better Business Bureau and the Attorney General, but got nowhere. We fought with them for almost 2 years, but we financed, so they had their money and were not interested in our complaints.
The breeze around our windows has been awful (worse than before the new windows) but they told us it had nothing to do with the windows or installation.
We've recently been remodeling and now we know why there was such a breeze coming from the windows... there is not a lick of insulation, spray foam or caulking anywhere. They used some shims and nails. Period. Once we removed the trim and casings from inside you can even see daylight in some places.
K-designers should be sued for the job they did here. Just look at the pictures! And this is only one room! If the windows in all the other rooms in our home are like this, it's no wonder our heating bill is so high. I'm angry all over again! Ugh!
K-Designers SUCKS!

On 12-20-2015 I ordered an American Dream walk-in tub to be installed in my bathroom along with a bathroom upgrade. It took several months to get my tub and upgrade installed. After it was installed it was found that the tub was defective. The air function would not stay on past 10 minutes. A new tub was installed. At first the new tub had the same problem. After a number of service calls the problem seemed to be resolved. In November 2017 the problem re-occurred. The air function shut down on its own after about 10 to12 minutes of operation. So I called the local office of K-Designers. I was referred to "Sharon" in customer service and given the number [protected] ext. 6776. I then called Sharon an left word for her to call me back. I stated what my problem was and when I could be reached. I never heard back from her. On Tuesday January 8, 2018 I receive a call from K-Designers sales department. I told them I was not interested in doing any further business with K-Designers until the problem with my walk in tub was resolved. They then contacted Sharon's number again so I left the same information that I had previously left. She called me back at a time I could not be reached. So I called back and again had to leave a message as to when I could be reached. I called again on January 11, 2018 and explained my problem again and gave the time I could be reached. This time I stated that I would wait one week for a call to be returned at a time that I would be available. If this did not happen I stated that I would contact a product liability attorney and possibly file a suite against K-Designers. Sincerely, Dwight L. Kessler PS: My phone number is [protected]

Thus company sucks had windows put in and they leaked all winter and the screens that are supposed to be cat proof were destroyed by a cat in a couple of weeks tried to contact them and nobody answers or calls back these windows were incorrectly put in and they said they were putting in frames but basically they brought boards and put them up. This company are not customer service oriented and the few people we have had contact with were rude they never answer you questions they just try to press you to buy more crap from them.

Stupidly, I filled out an online form to "receive a return call from the Alcoa Siding Warranty Specialist." My husband's dad had bought vinyl siding from Alcoa in the 80's, it's hideous, and I want it off our house ASAP! Alcoa was bought out by Ply Gem/Mastic, and apparently now in 2016, the original "Lifetime Warranty Certificate" (complete with shiny gold "Seal Of Authenticity") we found in my husband's dad's papers is utterly worthless, even for getting the original junky product removed.

Filling out the online form did, however, generate an astonishing number of responses beginning within 30 seconds of submitting the online form. Our home phone rang incessantly on both lines for over an hour. I felt like a Denver radio DJ giving away free tickets to Superbowl 50 to the lucky 18th caller! "Hello, please hold, you're next in line ... Hello, please hold, I'll be right with you ..."

One of the callers was a pleasant woman from K Designers. She was eager to "get the Alcoa Warranty Specialist" out immediately to take care of us, as it was necessary to have him document and photograph the siding in person. Sounds great! What luck - due to a cancellation, he had an opening in his schedule at 3pm the very next day.

The next afternoon, a nice young man arrived promptly at 3pm. He carried in numerous heavy-looking professional cases and binders, setting them down carefully under our dining room table. After exchanging pleasantries, he walked the exterior of the house with us, taking careful measurements and numerous photos with his cell phone.

He was so fresh- faced and well-mannered, stretching out his tape measure against the siding while nodding empathetically as I pontificated about the ###ization of classic examples of early 70's Mid Century Modern Architecture, due to vinyl siding, and my desire to return our home to its full glory, back to its pre-vinyl siding Tabula Rasa perfection.

When his measurements were complete, and I paused for breath after expounding at length about aesthetics, architecture, and hideous vinyl siding, we returned inside. As we seated ourselves at the dining room table, our young visitor rummaged through his bags and cases. He grinned broadly as he proudly spread out numerous "before-and-after" photos of ###ized classic examples of early 70's Mid Century Modern Architecture on my dining room table. Next to them, he placed his showpiece, a piece of actual vinyl siding. Have you ever had your cat look up at you, expecting praise as she drops a mangled, flailing rodent at your feet? It was exactly the same feeling, I tell you.

To be fair, a fair proportion of his photos were of builder-grade ranch homes, plus a few Craftsman-style bungalows. In any event, my husband was quite peeved that this "marketing director" guy stayed for over three hours, and dinner was delayed. Finally, he left, after letting it slip that K Designers "professional installation experts" only install a moisture barrier (aka Tyvek) if a house has asbestos siding, and doing so is an "add-on." However, the blown-in insulation is included in the price, and the holes are sealed and no one will ever see them under the new siding ...

Ever notice that only residential homes have horizontal vinyl siding? Seriously, you never see it on commercial buildings! Wonder why?
I mean, it's such a great product, you'd think every commercial building would have it ... ;-)

This company came to our home at 6 pm to provide information about window replacement. This was the longest and most ridiculous company presentation I have ever seen. We kept repeating to this man that we were not interested in committing to a decision today and did not want to finance anything. He did not listen to anything we kept saying and went on with his presentation and just simply would not stop and we could not get this to end until after 10 pm. We told him that we were tired, did not have dinner yet and it was our bedtime and he just kept going on and on and on about why we would not be interested in this "fabulous" deal he was offering us. It was an awful experience and we ended up getting very upset with him. I would never do business with this company because of the way they try to pressure people to sign up TODAY and ignore you when you are telling them you are not willing to do this. I can't believe they would rather lose a customer for not signing up today instead of accepting the fact and give us a reasonable bid for us to consider and allow us that opportunity as requested. Terrible company policy.

I am a 43 year old professional male, i was contacted by K Designers after posting my resume on one of the larger job source websites. I was excited about the possibility of my new career with them, however after an interview was scheduled for the same day i posted my excitement on social media and got bombarded with concerned friends warning me of the danger that lay ahead. I did my online research and found out some very non professional business practices are conducted there both on employees and customers.
That is a lose, lose business ethic i anticipate this place going out of business very soon because of it. Thank goodness for social media that prevented me from making a HUGE career mistake, and thank goodness for honest on line reviews for the insight.

I originally set up my interview with someone in the recruiting office that got my information from the internet. The individual I spoke with was extremely pleasant and informative about the opportunity, they told me that I was going to meet with Todd Nordrum, their Regional Manager. I was familiar with the business since I put myself through college selling vacuum cleaners for two years and then water softening systems for an additional three years. I have been contemplating getting back into in-home sales and looking for a company to grow with into a management position. I did my research on the internet and on Todd Nordrum, if I'm going to put my trust and faith into an individual I want to make sure I know who I'm working for. I found Mr. Nordrum to be very knowledgable about the industry, a roll-up your sleeves kind of guy who has built businesses from the ground up and shown others how to achieve higher positions within an organization. He didn't shy away from any of the tough questions or the crap that I found on the internet. I found K-Designers to be a long standing company with a focus on customer service and positive feedback from its sales staff. I'm not sure that K-Designers is a good fit for me at the moment, however I would have no problem working for a straight shooter like Todd Nordrum.

As a businessman/entrepreneur those of you that have to rely on a company to take care of you should refrain from posting disparaging comments about a company that creates an environment to earn an above average income. If you took the negative energy you wasted by posting ads on the internet and took control over your life and made results rather than excuses this world would be a much better place.

If your interested in a career opportunity judge it for what you see and experience, not what you read on the internet, K-Designers and Todd Nordrum are professional and committed to what they do. I'm not an advocate for K-Designers or a paid marketing representative, just a professional guy who hates to see those that create jobs and opportunities for people get stabbed in the back for their efforts.

Contacted the K-Designers several time, and I was told that they would do their best to fix my windows. It has been over 9 months and they have yet to fix the windows. I frequently get calls from there telemarketing department and when I complain about there services they do their best at relaying my issue. The last time I was contacted, after explaining the situation, I asked to be removed from their call list. the representative then told me the reason the windows had not been fixed yet was because of my attitude. It is amazing that this company can survive this economic slump, if this is the kind of services you can expect from K-Designers.

I am really amazed at anyone who would come on here and complain about k-designers. If anyone reads this justask yourself how could a company stay in business for so many years and still hold high ratings with agencies that police Home Remodeling companies. There are a lot of long term employees, including sales people, that love this company. The sales people that jump on here are the ones that failed and cannot take responsibility for their failure. They think its everyone elses fault! Not theirs! The best advice for those sales guys that failed is to just look in the mirror and ask yourself...how can other sales people make it and be very successful but yet I failed! It's 100 percent YOU! Not the company.

this website is for complaints only, but I have som epossitive feed back for this company. I used to work for K designers for over 4 months until I moved from that place, (relocated) I say it was one of the best complay I ever worked for. They always paid me well and they worked with customers good too. they dont cheat. that is proven because they will want you to sign the 100% satisfaction form then they will start the pmt. so after the job is done if the customer dont like the job in any way they dont have to sign the 100% saztisfaction form so that means they will not pay until they are 100% satisfied. how many companies you can find that dont take any money down untill the job is doen. so explains. there are some employees that either stole money or did something bad that is now fired they want to turn the company down, you cant satisfy all the employee because we as employee want a lot.

I’ve been a Costco member for over 20 years. I love Costco and have purchased from Costco.com as well as in their stores. We looked into the eShield product and ultimately bought it. K-Designers came to our home and made a presentation. They asked us to buy that day, as we expected, we just told them “NO, for now”, “We'll have to get back to you” and that was fine with them.

Rather than going ahead with the project we elected to wait to do some research. We discovered an incredible amount of misinformation, misleading and outright deceptive advertising all over the internet. Ultimately though, we found very good information on the US Department of Energy (DOE) website. There we found details for aluminum radiant barriers (clearly NOT the same product) and Reflective Insulation. According to the DOE typical radiant barriers are primarily effective in the summer months only. Also typical Radiant Barriers don't "breath" -- they have a tendency to trap moisture which of course negates any benefit. Elsewhere there are reports of cases where moisture condensed and froze on the surface of the radiant barrier, and then later (when the temperature rose) the frozen condensation melted then damaged insulation and other parts of homes.

When we asked if this was a problem with eShield we found out that eShield is Reflective INSULATION that has microscopic perforations which allow the product to breathe so moisture and condensation are never an issue. The more research we did the more we discovered that Reflective Insulation is the way to go regardless of climate. Yes, it is slightly more effective in the summer: however, when eShield is properly installed it is very effective in the winter too.

By reading the entire DOE articles carefully they clearly differentiate between the two different types of materials: 1) Radiant Barriers and 2) The more effective product, called REFLECTIVE INSULATION. See the DOE website article --

http://www.energysavers.gov/your_home/insulation_airsealing/index.cfm/mytopic=11670

See also YOU TUBE for more info...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv_Hg6bBVZI

We decided that we only wanted to do this job once – so we wanted the right product and the work done right. The more we discovered about the eShield product the more convinced we became that eShield was the right product for us -- so we bought it and we're happy we did. Our home is more comfortable and our energy consumption is lower. We are completely satisfied with Costco and K-Designers. They treated our home and property with respect. Their workers wore booties in the living space of our home and left our home as neat and clean as the moment the arrived. Our experience couldn't have been any better!

Do your own research and consider your own home -- one word of caution though... this work is best left to professionals, I don't recommend trying to do it yourself.

Judson is about to be pwned hard.

Class action lawsuit for employees- get in line, kids.
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2010/11/home-remodeler-agrees-to-redesign-its-sales-pitch.html
no, you can't treat your EMPLOYEES this way-
http://www.infozine.com/news/stories/op/storiesView/sid/39403/

Those 2 cases are pending, but it doesn't look good for America's Dream products.

This case is done- they agree to change the sales presentation. It won't end well for K Designers-
http://www.atg.wa.gov/uploadedFiles/Home/News/Press_Releases/2010/judson%20complaint.pdf

Sorry, Larry, but it's time to take the money and run. Your style of business will soon die in the google world.
About how you go to church and give money and stuff to it, I doubt that you truly tithe the boatloads of cash you have swindled for 32 years. Next time you are in church, pick up the Bible and look at these passages-
Exodus 20:2–17
Deuteronomy 5:6–21
There is something about not bearing false witness in there, you might want to check it out before you next slap your own back about your salvation.

PS 1999 called, they want their website back

I was suckered into an appt by a K- Designers telemarketer. Thought what do I have to loose by just getting a quote? Got my confirmation code and was set for a next day appointment.The first RED FLAG where I should have just said NO to the whole consult was that the telemarketer offered me a 8 PM appt. (it's pitchblack at 8 and who does window/remodeling quotes at night?) After I had my appt, I looked at the reviews online, confirming that my gut-instinct was right. Decided to cancel the appt, called K-Designers and of course no live person answers the phone, so I leave a message with the confirmation number that they gave me, cancelling my next day appointment. I did not want to endure the torture of sitting through a 4 hour high pressure presentation. Next day a K Desiner Marketing Director shows up anyway? Need I say more? He finally left after I told him for the 10th time that I cancelled the appt and I wasn't interested because of the bad reviews I read online.The guy made me very uncomfortable as he continued to try to talk me into his sales pitch after all. I believe he only left after another person pulled up my driveway (sigh! rescued!). I hate sleazy slimy salespeople who won't take NO for an answer!

I just experienced a K-Designers sales presentation due to a response I made to Costco.com. I will say it was an interesting experience. If you contact K-Designers or they contact you, I'd suggest you get competing bids before you get the K-Designers bid. If your experience is like mine, there is a reason they want you to sign a contract before they leave your home and continue to reduct the price and throw free products into the offer. I found them to be very overpriced compared to local contractors. I don't see the need to be hire pressure if you're offering a quality product at a competitive price. Why is it cheaper if I sign tonight versus tomorrow? They don't want you to get other bids. Bad idea. I can't speak to their quality, we never made it that far in the process. I did find their bid was three times higher than competing bids even after my Costco discount for E-Shield installation and the additional K-Designers discount if I would sign the contract before the sales rep left my home. What a scam! Buyer beware.

Do NOT work for K-Designers. Do NOT buy from K-Designers... This is a TOTAL SCAM COMPANY...

In 1995, I trained for a Marketing Director Position with K-Designers, Denver, Colorado. I worked for them for over 6 months and then worked for several other competitors who were doing the same 'Promotion' in the Denver, Colorado territory. I did the home improvement “Promotional Home” sales pitch for over 5 years and was considered one of the best in the Western States. My last year in business I grossed over $175, 000 in income (before taxes and expenses).

I am glad you are happy with the work that K-Designers did for you. I hope that if you live in your home for any length of time that your product has no problems. K-Designers does NOT warranty labor to fix their products after the sale. The lifetime warranty is only on the product. In addition, K-Designers is not known for great service after the sale. K-Designers is all about new SALES! There is NO profit in sending a repair crew to your home to fix potential problems especially if you live over 100 miles from their main location. K-Designers sub-contracts all of their work, so they would actually have to pay a crew to drive to your home and do the repair. I hardly think they would remain profitable if they actually spent money repairing the problems people can have with windows, siding and other home improvements.

Their sales pitch…. Well, K-Designers uses the oldest gimmick in the book. The movie 'Tin Man' accurately depicts this company. K-Designers approaches ALL homeowners with the same sales pitch... "We want to use your home for our promotion. If you agree to allow us to use your home to market our product, we have marketing dollars we will spend on your home. These marketing dollars will save you thousands of dollars if you do business with us TODAY, WHILE I AM HERE! (Not tomorrow, but NOW).

Sales representatives are called Marketing Directors. Why? So that you the prospective customer is under the impression, you are talking to someone in authority. You, the homeowner, actually think you are speaking with a Director of the Company, not a sales person. You think this Director has special powers and has this budget of money to spend on your home. You have to agree to allow K-Designers to put a sign in your yard, take before & after photos, write letters of reference and much more…. For each item you agree to, K-Designers or the manufacturer will spend marketing dollars (which do not exist) on your home to reduce your total cost. It’s truly amazing to see the cost of a siding project go from a whopping $25, 000 Retail cost, down to $14, 999. Because your home is special, and you LOVE the product, and you agree to help with marketing you will save thousands… but remember you must do this now, while the Marketing Director is in your home. He/she will tell you they are so busy they cannot come back. They are booked solid with interested people. They have more people interested in the ‘fake’ promotion, then they have money to spend.

The marketing directors are trained to take control of you and take you through a 10 step sales process which includes: 1) a warm up 2) an introduction to the promotion, 3) a review of the company K-Designers and their manufacture (was Revere or Alcoa), 4) a detailed review of the promotion (put up a sign in your yard, agree to write a letter, agree to before & after pictures, and more items if necessary), 5) product demonstration (you must LOVE the product), 6) measure, 7) do a pretty drawing of your home 8) do an ROI (return on investment)… “Does this make financial sense; can you afford to do this?” (for siding they show you the cost of painting, alleged energy savings, and alleged increase value to your home), 9) Negotiations (they want you to go very slow, go outside in between steps, and reduce the price slowly… each time getting you the prospect to say yes to another marketing activity, and 10) paperwork and wrap up.

The marketing director is trained to ask pivotal sales questions to you during the presentation. Examples… “Folks, this may or may not be for you… if it is not, please let me know…. Of course, your home would be prefect for our promotion, but I understand if this is not for you. I have many other people who I have on my schedule who are interested in the promotion. If you do not want to participate, we will shake hands and part friends”.

Before the sales person goes to measure, they are trained to ask another question…. “Folks, you love the product… Right? … and you agree to help me with the promotion, Right? (you say yes)… Well, I love your home and you qualify for the promotion. I would love to use your home to market our product in this area! Aside from money, is there any reason we cannot do business…. WHILE I AM HERE?”…. then they remain quiet. They have cornered you into making a decision while they are there. This is called a 1-call close, or a HARD SELL! If you are not a strong person or couple, you have no choice but to continue…. Else, you would be a liar. Good people don’t lie or change their minds.

However, the REALITY IS… this, it is all baloney, fake, made up. The PROMOTION is BOGUS. There are NO Marketing dollars. Yes, K-Designers will put a sign in your yard, and they will take before & after pictures. You will also write a letter of reference….. but guess what…. EVERY K-Designers customer DOES THE SAME THING. The sales pitch is the same for EVERY POTENTIAL CUSTOMER. You are not special. Again, You are not special. You are just another person/couple that K-Designer’s is pressuring into making a decision to buy siding - TODAY. If they did not have the “Promotional” lie, they would have no reason to get you to buy today!

K-Designers uses the ‘PROMOTION’ as an excuse for everything. Examples. If a husband and wife both own a home, and only the wife is present when the Marketing Director arrives for the appointment, he/she will not present to you, nor will they give you any prices. They are trained to say, that according to the “PROMOTION” all owners must be present. Another example. Say you want to think about the price overnight? The Marketing Director will say something like…. “I’m sorry Mr. & Mrs. Smith, but the ‘Promotion’ requires that you make a decision while I am here. If you are not interested in the ‘Promotion’, I need to release the funds for someone else. I have more people interested in the Promotional dollars (that do not exist), then I have money to spend. You understand, don’t you?” The MD’s use the “Promotion” as their excuse for many objections you the homeowners may have. Bottom line is you must decide while they are in your home or you will lose all of those bogus marketing dollars!

THE FEAR OF LOSS is what motivates people to buy siding while the marketing director is in their home. People are afraid that they will miss out on an once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to save thousands. You feel special that your home has qualified for Revere or Alcoa to use their product on…. You qualify….

Who sets the price? Well, if you are a good sales person (Marketing Director) you can start your price anywhere you’d like. At the end of the day, you just have to cover the cost of the siding and the cost of the sub-contracted crew who will do the work (plus other expenses K-Designers charges the MD (sales rep) such as financing fees, etc. It is not uncommon for a Marketing Director to make $5, 000 commission on a standard 1-story, 3 bedroom home.

K-Designers brags about all the employees they have. The reality is this. All of K-Designers Marketing Directors are supposed to be 1099 Independent contractors. They have a constant stream of MD’s hoping they will get rich selling K-Designers products. The reality is most MD’s do not make it past 2 months. They realize that they may have to run 50 appointments a month to make 3-5 sales. They will drive hundreds of miles, spend many lonely nights in flea ridden run-down hotels, eat at truck stops and quick stop gas stations, be apart from their homes and families for 23 days each month, and many suffer from depression and / or alcoholism. There dream to get rich at K-Designers was a last ditch effort to survive. Many have exhausted all efforts to find a real sales job with a real company that actually pays you a base salary, pays your travel expenses, and provides full benefits.

K-Designers fully controls the lives of the MD’s but has no responsibility for the MD’s they hire…. They are in constant lawsuits with MD’s over taxes, control, and independent contractor status. VERY FEW sales people make it as long-term K-Designers sales reps (marketing directors). It is very sad to know how terribly K-Designer’s uses good sales people. They take advantage of these sales people, with dreams of wealth, then simply say ‘NEXT’ when the sales people can’t perform or complain about the constant travel. Additionally, if a sales rep sells anything his first month, it can take 3-6 moths to see the job ‘cash out’. If the sales rep priced the job right, he/she might get a check, but remember they are new and might under price the siding or forget some other important cost or fee… if they are lucky they might see real money in 3 months. K-Designers does allow new hires to ‘draw’ against future sales, but the draw is barely enough to run leads (it costs an average of $500 a week to run leads). The draw does not allow a sales rep to pay rent / mortgage, pay bills, or feed their family. Imagine the stress the new sales rep has…. New job, new company, no money until 3-6 months (if you sell something and price it right). Many MD’s end up quitting and or filing for bankruptcy.

Let’s continue to talk about all of K-designers hundreds/thousands of employees. When I worked for the organization, ALL of the siding and window installation crews were sub-contractors. Some of these crews were professional… they had trucks and equipment, but most were deadbeats. I had one crew show up to do a siding job… the person was so broke, and so behind in child support. that he was found camping beside a river in a tent at night. He even borrowed money from the homeowners so that he could eat. K-Designers did not have company employees for sales or installation….. It would be interesting to know how many ‘real’ employees were actually full-time K-Designer employees. Out of 9, 000 published employees, I would guess only 500 are actual employees.

Why does this matter? This is why. If a company is serious about hiring and keeping good sales and installation people, they will hire them as a full-time employee with full benefits (health, dental, insurance) and provide the employees vehicles and expense accounts. K-Designers has NO commitment to independent contractors. NONE. They pay no taxes and have no expenses on these people. All of ‘those’ people are disposable. No accountability. No Costs. K-Designers has NO commitment to having / keeping employees, why would they have any commitment to you as a prospective customer?

Do not work for K-Designers and please do not buy from this company. They do NOT have a unique product. They do not have a special Promotion. They take advantage of prospective customers. They take advantage of good sales people ~ independent contractors are NOT employees! They are focused on NEW SALES ONLY… they do not provide good service after the sale. Most importantly, the technique they use to sell their product is a lie. THE PROMOTION is a gimmick. You can find the same product, or better, by shopping around.

Larry Judson, CEO, should be ashamed of the lies he has perpetrated over the years while doing business. He has lied to thousands of customers and thousands of good sales reps (Marketing Directors a.k.a. INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS). It is time to shut this company down. If you are in the market for windows or siding, please buy from a LOCAL company. A company you trust and that carries a good product and a warranty on both the product and labor (get references and talk to people who have done business with the company). Do business with a company that hires, trains and takes good care of its sales and installation crew. Larry and his crew are the ### of the earth. Mr. Judson, you will someday answer to the Man up above!

Remember, if it sounds too good to be true, it usually is not true! Take care!

I had K-Designers come to my home last year and the Marketing Directors (Salesmen) started with their pitch that they could decrease the price significantly because of the exposure our home would have in the area. The pricing started around $40k and after my disapproval of the price it dropped to $35k for less service and then a few rounds of haggling, we ended up around $25k for the same service. That difference was the first sign that this wasn't the marketing favor they were proposing. Then I got quotes from other companies for $15k to $20k for comparable product (very important to compare apples to apples), it was clear this wasn't anything other than a sales pitch and a deceptive one at that. I decided to wait a year to redo the exterior of my home and am planning on doing it in the next couple of months.

I was recently called again stating that things are significantly different now at K-Designers and that a new Marketing Director would like to come by and visit my home to show me their new products. As a sales executive myself, I gave the call center manager my feedback and reasoning as to why I didn't want to invest any time with them to see how he would respond and give them a chance to correct me if I had an incorrect perception of their company. I explained that I didn't trust them based on my previous experience with the company and that while I am planning on redoing the exterior of my home I wouldn't consider using them because I don't trust them as a company. They may have great products but a company that is willing to be deceptive in its sales approach, is willing to be deceptive in lots of other ways as well.

The response was telling. At first, the manager did an excellent job at restating what my objection was and while a bit over pressured, continued to ask if a Marketing Director could stop by and give me a non-salesman demonstration of their products. I explained that I wasn't going to be making a decision for 3 months and that is when I'd like to contact them again. This is an excellent test because a company that is truly interested in sales situation where the relationship is of value, will be fine with this and call back in a few months when the buying decision is going to be made. Instead, he just hung up on my mid sentence.

My take away is that these may be great people but K-Designers as a company systematically deceives people into purchasing their products (which are good products) and is NOT interested in the customer's experience or relationship with K-Designers any more than they need to in order to secure a sale. I, personally, choose to work with more honorable professionals that match my values and interests.

Greg B
Pleasant Grove, UT