Bionic Band review: Bionic bullcrap 266

Fangio,

First off, you need to get your facts straight! I searched your claims that Liverpool John Moores tested the Bionic Band and found that it didn't work. Of course what I found was that you were wrong! LJM tested the POWER BALANCE! Here is the link to the website for your education! http://www.power-balance-wristband.net/power_balance_wristband/power-balance-bands-a-listers-love-them-but-are-they-a-con.html
They are not the same nor they use the same system.

Second, the FDA has never requested any information on Bionic Band, so your claim that "Bionic Band refused to provide" is also a lie.

Third, we could tell that you were not American simply by your inability to spell or type, or maybe a little of both.

Fourth, the effects of the Bionic Band are not a placebo because during an open demonstration people are not told what is will do until after they have experienced the effects.

Fifth, you continue to spew assumptions as facts, since you have NEVER been directly exposed to the Bionic Band.

Sixth, with you not even having seen or read the white paper on the testing, you have already concluded that the ""scien" you quote is inaccurate unsubstantiated and in some cases compeltely and utterly made up" (Ihad to cut and paste it because I couldn't even come close to miss spelling the english so badly) proves that you are a brainwashed, closed minded individual that can not believe that something other than a drug might actually have a positive effect on your body.

Seventh, Bionic Band DOES NOT promise to take away pain. Everyone is different and has different problems. Many people have experienced pain relief but some do not. It depends on what is causing the pain. That is why the FDA has not gone after Bionic Band, because no promises have been made.

Finally, your inaccurate assumptions can never outweigh the many people here that have enjoyed the positive effects that they have experienced with Bionic Band.

PS. Please type your response in a word document, do spell check and than paste it in the box. It will make it mauch easier for everyone to read.

So where can we see the cdouble bl;ind tests that show it works, i have seen plenty of tests showing it doesn't work, such as the ones by LIverpool John Moores, NBC, etc, but none that show it does work, so please feel free to say who has done the testing and where tests can be seen. Unsurpsiingly I see claims that double blind tests have been done and it turns out that the tests were not double blind or no one can actually say who did them or where.

As to it not being a Medical Device you do nto udnerstnad hte legislation. I have confirmed with the FDA that it does constitute a medical device. Does the Bionic Band claim to fix anythgin, well yes, it claims to offer pain relief there si a whole section on tehir website that deal with it. It also alters the bodies structure (aligning the protons or so it is claimed) to provide benefits, which on it's own is enough to qualify it.

I could not care less whether you trust the FDA or not. They would ask Bionic Band to provide proof positive (which Bionic Band refuse to provide) as to whether the band does actually align protons or whether theat is a load of crap madfe up to sell the band. they woudl also be able to find out what evidenc there is that any frequency is particularly benfiticial to health, whether Bionic bands are makign up totla and utter [censor] about Einsteins theory whcih applied only to liquids now counts for passing through skin etc. In short whether Bionic Band is simply a placebo being sold based on completel and utter lies from the manufacturer.

That has nothign to do with drug attorney's and surely is the soert fo thing Bionic Band shoudl be forced to prove if they are goign to make claims as they do.

I am not American.

As to your finally, no, it's a placebo, you can get results with a placebo, that doesn't make lying about it and not actually solving the balance and strength issues people have is anythign other than a rip off perpetrated by disgusting con men.

You say no promises, well unless they can promise then they need to stop making the claims.

Simply put, BBionic Bands show some actual evidecne that your product is anytigin other than a placeboe, becuase the "scien" you quote is inaccurate unsubstantiated and in some cases compeltely and utterly made up.

Fangio,

There is double blind testing that has been completed showing the effects the Bionic Band has on the body. I know you are wanting proof that it works, but you need to understand one thing. When you look to the FDA and their approvals, all you get from them is a series of test and the list of results, thus the testers draw a conclusion and can amke a statement from that conclusion. Because the Bionic Band does not promise to fix, heal or cure anything, it is not considered a medical device.
Now, understanding that as well as realizing how many drugs and treatments "approved" by the FDA that have later been pulled from use, do you really trust the FDA? Just watch TV tonight and see how many attourney adds you will see for lawsuits against a drug company for poisoning, yes, I said poisoning.

Unfortuneately, you like many other Americans believe that a pill by a drug company, precribed by a doctor will solve your problem, when the majority of the time, it will only mask a symptom.

Finally, try one, you just might learn that the Bionic Band can help. No promises, just results.

Osubuzz

I suggest you read the official web page which states quite clearly that the method used is to realign you rprotons, somethign which a several ton multimillion dollar MRI scanner can do, but not a silicone band. Seriously, the science put forward is garbage.

The "data" that people put forward on their own pages are not independent double blind placebo tests. Most of the time they are not even single blinded.

The "tests" they use are applied kineisiology "tests" tht have been proven to be massively flawed.

I await the University of Illinois tests, which will not be over a year, why woudl they? The manufacturers claim teh results are instant, so no need to test over time.

I could not care less if people are happy with aplacebo. They are not being sold it as a placebo they are being sold it as having a physical effect, they are being lied to by the company to give the company profits. I do not think that conmen shoudl eb allowed to make money just because htey have a convincing con. The product CANNOT achieve what it says it does via the method it says it does. It is thereofre being sold ona lie, people are being conned.

Fangio

I have not seen any where where it states this product alters the body. from what i have been seeing it is being sold to block the effects of EMFs. I have seen endless articles about that and have had some experience with it as i sold some electronic devices that were designed to emit less EMFs compared to their competitors.

And i have been looking at the item for a while now and it seems on some of the sales peoples pages, the ones they make themselves, they have data that says it has been tested and documented. i did not read the whole thing as it was too long for me, but it was something. i also called the company who makes them and talked to them and they informed me there is a college doing a blind test on it now and will be releasing the results in stages. I guess it will be a test that lasts over a year with the stages based on different time lines. i can only assume 30 days, 3 months, 6 months etc.

it also seems the only ones complaining are ones who have never tried it. I stood around at one show with a vendor selling them (he was not me) and was amazed to see people walking up who have had the bracelet on for various timelines including a lot who had then on for over a year. i dont know, if it is a placabo as you say if it takes my pain away i would be happy.

Hey, I just got a free patch put on me (in the morning time) 3 days ago. I was in a hurry and was just being kind to a friend of mine who was trying to tell me about this bionic band thing. Well, all I can say is this, normally, everyday by noon, I start having back pain. Well, I haven't had any pain for 3 days. I later caught up with my friend to get him to tell me about this so called patch, because something was happening to me that was highly unusual called "no pain". What could a stupid patch do, right? Well, I still wasn't convince, so here I get on the web to try and prove him wrong. So, I find this website looking for discouragement from being a fool. It is one thing being "mind over matter when you don't know what the matter is" and another thing when you are starting to feel good for the first time in about a year. I don't know what to say other than I am glad I had the chance to try it. I'm am thankful to feel good for 3 days now. Wow. I'll let you know if it continues. --Pain Free

PS

I am no fool. i know what a placebo is, and I know what applied kineisiology is, I know a con when I see one. i am also fully aware that it I wore the band I might feel a placebo effect, but hte band woudl still be doing nothing. this is what many peopel do not seem to understand tryign the band does not show whether it does naythign.

Simply put there is zero evidecne that teh band does what it says, zero evidence it can do it even theoretically, and no FDA approval for this product which clearly is a medical device as the FDA classify things.

Now I am not saying I am all knowing, I am saying that there is nothing to back the claims that the band does naythgin, and all the anecdotal evidence is pointless as it does nothing at all to distinguish between the band doing something and the placebo effect. Now if you have something to offer that is not just anecdotal great, but if not it is foolish to believe that the product does anythgin at all, when such a load of garbage is put up as the science behind it.

utahmomof4

I am expecting companies nto be be allowed to toally make up a load of garbage and retend it is science adn then flog a placebo illegally to people who are conned into thinking that the badn actually has an effect. It's a placebo, there is noting that the band actually does. when seling it for health benefits the companies are breaking the law and are scamming people.

So what I am expecting is honesty and not fraud, simple.

P.S. Fangio- Seems like to me, you are just wasting a lot of your time on speaking out about this wristband. In reality, you sound like a fool. You haven't tried it, you're just complaining about it and insulting others because you think you are "all knowing". You are not. Don't you think people would be moring willing to take your advice if you actually tried the product? Just saying...

I love this thing! My husband and I picked one up while in AZ on vacation. Luckily for me, ours were only $30. My husband has had insomnia for over a year now. He would fall asleep fine, but then wake up at 1 or 2 in the morning, only to have to watch TV for 2 or 3 hours to get back to sleep. A week or two later, I had noticed that the TV wasn't going on at night and asked him about it. He realized that since we bought the band, he had actually been sleeping through the night, a full 9 hours at least...no exaggeration. I play volleyball and have noticed that I feel more in the "zone" when I play and it has helped me with my sleep too. I too, (like someone else who posted) "dream" again. I haven't remembered dreaming for a very long time. It's interesting that it seems to do different things for different people. I had a friend who also purchased it that says he feels way more energetic when he is wearing it. I'm not sure what people are expecting who are complaining about it, but I'm enjoying the benefits of mine! LOVE IT!

I have read all of the material and watched the videos, and been over the flaws several times. I have pointed out that the placeboe effect explains theis perfectly, I have also researcehed the tests used by the salesmen to sell this and the fact that they have been shown for over a century to work with or without a stimulus. I have looked into Einstein's theory as quoted by Pedersen, and it does not work on non liquids. I have pointed out that if it did work that if, as he says imbalance is caused by the protons pulling in different directions the effect would be magnified it they all pulled in the same direction. I have pointed out that the idea that increased cellular communication woudl somehow give pain relief from things such as arthritis is garbage. I have asked persistently for non-anecdotal evidence, of a measurable sort to be posted up, but it seems no one supporting the band has anything. I have patiently explained to people what double blind actually means. I have looked at all of the other bands using the self same tests getting the same results yet not using anything like the same supposed "science" explanation, and shown that these bands (including the Power Blance band which uses the exact same tests gets the same results, but is admitted by the manufacturers to have absolutely no credible scientific evidence for it hmmm, those tests are not credibel science?) are also scamming.

I have researcedh the relevatn medical device legislation, which Bionic Band are curently breaking and provided them with a contact name at the FDA to get the ball rolling for them to actually get teh device tested as required under the law.

So yes I have looked at teh website and the information. I have done more homework than just taking a century + old test and falling for the line that the band is having an effect and not btohering to even look to se if it is aplacebo.

So I say it again, based upon the evidence, having clearly done more research than you have, you are sellign a placebo, to people looking for real cures, and people expecitn g real effects frmo the bands action, youare a fraudster.

For you not to be a fraudster you would need to show me CREDIBLE SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE that this works. If you don't have that evidence you are selling a band with no idea if it works (it doesn't). So come on where is the actual scientific evidence, not the placebo driven anecdotal evidence. Wher is the sciecne that actually is not compeltely made up? Show it to me.

You clearly know nothing but that it makes you money, you have not done your homeowrk, you have no sciecntific knowledge at all, and you are selling a medical device with no license. Why are you pretnding to have conducted any sort of homework?

Fangio,
It's been a pleasure chatting with you. You have not tried the product, yet you criticize others that have. I think you should look in the mirror before you call other people names like "[censor]" and "fraudster". You see we have done our homework and are acting responsibly. I do not believe you have even looked at the web site or sales material. You have not done your homework. You are not acting responsibly. When you have a subject that you actually know something about, drop me a line. Until that time, I will no longer respond to you and that second hand bilge that is coming off you key board. Best wishes to you and your family, I hope for your sake and theirs some day you will be able to see the trees, not just the forest.

Canoe

The disclaimer does not cover it. The band claims to alter hte structure of the body it is therefore a medical device. That it says the FDA has not reviewed the product just highlights that despite it being clear that the band claims health benefits (there's a page about pain relief, how is that not claiming to treat people? Seriously just saying it isn't intended to treat anyghtin then putting up a claim that it can be used for treating pain is a compelte contradiction and shows the disclaimer is just there to pretend that it's legal to make such claims) it does not have the required approval.

Science is not my god, however, it is the required method for showing that the product you are selling actually works. It doesn't anyone selling it is a fraudster.

Fangio
Science is your God and you are insulting Jesus, Guess we all know where you are going to end up. Hint it rhythms with sell. Bionic Band RULES

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Hows that Fangio

I have never worn one, why? Well simply TEH SCIECNE DOES NOT WORK AND THERE IS NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER THAT IT HAS ANY EFFECT. The try it it works line is the scammers way of gettign people to pay for a placebo effet. What is it you aar finding so hard to see about this? Is wearing it goign to demonstrate to me that it is not the placebo? No. Is it suddenly gogn to make the scicen behind the band, which incidentally doesn't even give aa possible mechanism for pain relief any less BS? No. Is anecdotal evidence that people have had a placebo benefit going to show me any activity by a band that cannot work using the "sciece" teh manufacturers quoted, no. There is no way in which wearing the band would provide any evidence that the band does work.

However, it might allw you to con peopel that eh band did somethign rather than the placebo effect, which is why they woudl hand over moeny to a complete scam.

Sometimes you just look at the sciecne, I don't need to take cyanide to know it's poisonous.

How about you answer a question, have you got any non-anecdotal evidcne ethat this band actually works in any physical way at all ever? (BTW the answer is no you haven't but you reaqlly don't care as long as you cna make some money out of this).

Sounds like a personal problem/

I put one of them around my Johnson. Nothing happened

Fangio,
You say you never bought a band, does that mean that you never tried a band. wore it for a while and then made your decision?

I have never said I bought a band. I am not stupid enough to by something that the sciecen does nto work for and where teh evidence offered is clearly no evidence at all fo the band having any effect.

I am complaining that idiots like yourself who have not even bothered to see that you are sellign a placebo are continuing to con poeple out of their money with your ridiculous claioms that he band does something.

I guess you think that I should just let you market it, and not point out the gaping flaws in teh sciecne and the "evidence" offered. I don't wnat others to get ripped off by scammer like yourself so I post. The idea that it's ok to scam paople just because someone has been sold something that actually does nothing at all, and certainly does not do anything to your protons as advertised, but they don't realise that it has done nothing shows how you operate. If you sell the snake oil and peopel think it works that's ok by you. Don't worry about things like the fact ti cannot work as described and has absolutely no physical effect whatsoever, as long as people don't realise they have been scammed that's ok by you.

[censor] pure and simple.

Go find somethign legitimate to make a living from, you are sellign a scam and you could not care less.

Did your mother drop you on your head when you were a baby? Let me get it straight. You bought a product, you were not satisfied, you returned it and got your money back and you are still complaining? Did you ever really buy a band? I did, had it for 5 months, was very satisfied, so much so that I became a distributor.

Your argument is basically that it doesn't matter if you rip people off as long as they are ignorant of this. Why not just sell a legitimate product hat actually does what it says, how it says to make your living?

Because if you are happy is not the point, poeple gettign ripped off being sold a placebo.

The results you saw are placebo, the band does ntohgin at all. It is illegal t o sell placebo's using made up health benfit claims, you are breakign the law. COnsumer law exists to protect the gullible. You wabnt to make money from the gullible, so I guess you couldn't care less abotu whehter your produc ti shonest. it isn't.

Those who are happy are being conend as the band IS NOT DOING WHAT IT IS SAID TO DO, just because are being conned into thinking it is does not make the product a good or even legal product. Utter garbage about you not saying the band does anything, you have siad earluer that it helps with pain and balance. what do you do have a blank stand with a sign sayign tyr this band I'm not saying ti does anythign but buy it. Or do you attribute (incorrectly) the "results" of the scam balance and strength tests to the band rath erhtna being honest and saying it's placebo?

It's a con, pure and simple the band odes nothign at all, and distributors talking about results and claiming that these are what persuaded them need to have a look at what the placeboi effect is, the fact hat the sciecne is complete and utter BS, and that the sellign of placebo's or items which claim to have aphysical effect (such as "alignign your protons) need FDA approval. If you are goign to ignore all consumer protection laws just to make some money you are [censor]. Seemingly that is exactly what yoau re doing and you have no honor or integrity.

Well its me again. Still do not understand why any one should get upset over a product that offers to give you your money back if you are not happy. Yes I am a distributor, a choice I made by the results I saw. If you buy the band because the results impressed you or because it was fun doing the demos. It still comes back to this if your not happy, return it! Now if some one will not give you your money back, we have a different problem, but from the comments i resd, that does not seem to be the problem. When I sell a band, Im do not claim it does anything. Just try it and if you like it buy it, if not do not buy it. It's that

Nope, not going to contact you, you are a distributor sellign an unlicensed product and keeping money from people who get the placebo effect. That is fraud, there is no science behind this.

The "you must try it for yourself" defence is scamming. Either it works due to the science or it doesn't and you are selling a placebo by making health claims that simply are untrue. Well, the science doesn't work so that leaves you are selling a placebo.

What's more your claim of pain relief definletly requires FDA or EU approval for you to make that claim. Loads o.f band manufacturers outhter make the same claim. None of them are offering any sort of credibel evidence. Try it liek it keep it and you have been ripped off. You will have bought the placenbo effect, and the band will have dine absolutely nothing but make you and the manufacturer money.

If you are confused by the negative comments then you need to understnad that some peopel don't like people making money by making up health benefits and defrauding people, you seem to be fine with that though.

So please take your claim of treating anyone with honour or integrity whilst sellign a produc that has zero evidcen for it and makign claims of medical benefits that require proper testing and go away. You are [censor].

I am not going to try to tell you if the Bionic Band works or not. You must try it for your self. But! I am confused by the negative comments. First, there is a unconditional money back policy. If the person you bought from can't be found or will not give your money back the company will. Their contact info is everywhere. Second, the cost is less than a dinner out, less than a doctors visit and less than a bottle of pain pills. Third, the possible benifits are lowering chronic pain, feel stronger, better balance and more energy. Who else is offering this and at no risk to you. Try it, you like it, keep it. Try it, you do not like it, get your money back. Contact me at www.believeit.me and I will treat you with honer and integrity

Interesting take from Australia where Power Balance (a company that mkes the same claims as Bionic Band with teh same lack of any reasonable scientific explanation that actually works). It seems selling a placebo is not allowed in Australia, wonder when they will get on to Bionic Band there?

http://www.accc.gov.au/content/item.phtml?itemId=964065&nodeId=698d19a8cc24ae1e38596b70150e1781&fn=Undertaking.pdf

Canoe

I have answered very clearly why testimony is not acceptable, it is because the placebo effect is what is giving people the belief that the band works, which is no reason to believe that he science, which is complete BS works.

I have also said that the product needs to be tested, not by me but by the FDA or other independent bodies, I trust them.

I am not biased, the sciecen is untrue, it does nto need testing, as it is simply untrue that Einstein's theory that they base it on can be applied to anything other than a body of liquid, which the human body is not. Therefore it is a scam, the method tha they say the band uses is therefore impossible.

As for "believing makes things come true", that's the placebo effeect for you. The band does ntogin the placebo effect does it.

On to your was Jesus a fake or a scammer, well let's look at what method he prescribed for his miracles, he said he was the son of God (and simultaneously God at the same time), and that God was all powerful. Now that, if true would make miracles possible, but we cannot test it now as he is not physically here to test his theory. So it's left to faith. But a scammer? What exactly did he get out of it, a few years of beng persecuted and then crucifixion, doesn't look like he made millions of dinari out of it. However, that is entirely irrelevant to the question fo the Bionic Band and so clearly a diversionary tactic from someone with absolutley nothing to offer to actually evidence the band itself doing a damn thing. When you actually have some evidecne that te band does anything itself then please feel free to post it. In the absence of any such evidence from anyone including the manufacturers ([censor]) and all of the distributors (scammers) and given that the sciecne is complete BS it's the placebo efeect all the way BASED UPON THE AVAILABLE EVIDENCE NOT SOME IDIOTIC PERSONAL BIAS THAT SAYS THAT IT'S NOT THE PLACEBO EFFECT.

Your biased because you have already drawn your conclusions. so why test. You call them scammers because you assume your tests would prove them wrong. I say they can sell this on testimony why not? Test would not accomplish this and you wouldnt trust an uncharged blank. this so stupid. BionicBands work for many people they definitively wont work for you because you wont even try it. Thats why I call you Bias amoung other names. You never answered why testimony is not acceptable? Believing makes some things true. The new testiment was based on testimony Was Jesus a fake and scammer?
Mr 11:23 For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith. Jesus said this, Is it true or not?
Joh 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
Doubt you go with out believe you will receive. Fangio

I can't get it properly tested, as the company DO NOT provide identical uncahrged models that woudl be necessary for a proper double blind test.

Can you, rather than just saying it, show where I am biased rather than looking at and evaluatign the evidence? No thought not, just unevidenced allegations from you I see, that and insults.

As for your comment "like you insulted me", calling peopel scammers who sell scams is not na insult, calling peopel who sell placebo's to the vulnerable [censor] is not na insult it is an accurate description. Your insults are just personal insults because you absilutely no evidence to offer that the band you are so enamoured with does anything at all. So keep up witht he posts which offer no answers to any of the evidecned points made showing the band to be a rip off. If that's all you have to offer I guess it shows the kind of person you truly are.

PS the chances that youa re not a distributor for this are seemingly minimal, the chance that you have anything to offer to a debate about whether there is any science behind this product or whther it is complete BS is zero. BTW talkign to a friend of mine who is a science hot shot he says Einsteins theory doesn't even work on Jello, which is a far higher % water than the human body and contains no solids, sothe chances of it workign ont eh body are so laughable that anyone suggesting that someone by a product based upon this is a complete charlatan.

We are stuck in this loop. How many agree with your approach to this subject?. You try to give the impression that your slant on this subject is better than mine. I have a right to my opinion that you are way off the scale on this subject. Thats my opinion. You are not with out bias for some reason. Its not harmful in my opinion. If we were talking about a drug you could be right. It seems to bug you that someone is making some money selling something to someone, I think you are jealous . You can get it tested and post the results if you want, It would make little difference to some one that found good results. Your testing it and reporting "That it doesnt work" would only help sales. Your bias rant helps sales also. Keep it up and there will become a conspiracy theory about it with even more sales. You cant win this one cut your loses and fold. Come on!
If I insult you like you insulted me, you guessed it MORE SALES Keep it up you biased [censor] LOL MORE SALES
Bionic Band Buy on and piss Fangio off (More sales) It works or your money back. More Sales I think you work for the Bionic Band company if not they should send you some sales commission. ( More Sales). I know you have to deny working for them and you probably will.

Sorry Canoe, but to say you are takking a more balanced approach when you say you don't believe their science but you think it works by something other than the placebo effect. Beyond the science they offer the band is a silicone band (the sports version), and there is absolutley no helath benefit to a silicone band. So if you don't beleive thier proton alignment garbage it is not balanced to say tht it has any other efeect whatsoever, in fact it demonstrates quite clearly that you are in denial about having bought the emperor's new clothes. It's delusional to belive that a silicone band which varies from other bands only by some unexplained and totally unscientific "imprinting" works for pain relief, but not by the method quoted but strangely by some other action (which in itself would be an undisclosed side effect and certainly woudl show that any safety testing they did was inadequate) purely by accident.

You say the FDA has no credibility, yet you believe a band with absolutely no medical testing to be credible. Seriously you think that somehting you belive to relieve pain with no known method does not need to be tested for side effects, or how it achieves it and that's fine?

Come off it Canoe, it is placebo pure and simpel otherwise the Bionic Band manufacturers would be all over the FDA to obtian approval to sell it for medical purposes and make themselves overnight billionaires. On the other hand if it is placebo they would never submit it for any sport of medical testing at all.

Fangio

You make a lot of sense but, all true about blocking pain. When should we block pain? controversial . My pain in my back was a nuisance. I dont like surgery option with the risks. I used chiropractors with a little success. I never said I believed all this proton alignment stuff they claim. I believe it works for some reason beyond the Placebo effect but whatever.
My biggest point with you is i think you are over reacting to make a point.
In the big scheme of things pharmaceutical drugs have caused more harm (with all the potential for abuse)than this product even if what you claim is all true (I believe you are mistaken) . I am taking about a more balanced approach that included my right to pursue unconventional means . I would have no problem with testing this product but my point is the results would not matter to me. FDA if they would bother to do this has no creditability in my books anyway.
Have a happy New year.

Sorry now you are seriously taking it into shaky ground. Bionic Band has no FDA approvla. It claims to alter the structure of the structure of te body, yet there is absolutley no evidence of a trial for the side efects of aligning your "protons", no studies what so ever. There is no evidence of any trials of long term effects etc and they are unlikley to exist as they won't go for approval. So if you claim it works, you cannot claim that there are no side efects, as you have no eidence for that.

I have no doubt there are no side effects, as the band has no scientific chance of aligning th protons the sciecne simply does not work. That is why it is placebo all the way, I am convicned of that by the fact, and i'll say it again for you, their science does not work. It cannot be anything other than placebo.

People who sell placebo's are [censor], when you said you were selling them I rightly called you [censor]. If you don't hinnk that sellign an unapproved product, that costs cents to make, for $s by tellign people that it gives them relief from pain and making up scientific BS to defraud them does not make people [censor] I don't know what your definition of [censor] is. Targtting vulnerable people to make miney with BS products qualifies for me. if you are sellign this product as you initially claimed you are [censor] and a scammer. It is entirely called for.

As the product is menat to increase "cellular communication" care to tell me how it communicates pain so badly that you don't feel ti anymore. It certainly cannot (even if the science they quote worked, which it doesn't) effect the causes of the pain that people are listing, which have nothing to do with proton alignment.

Placebo's that do not address underlying problems but allow peope to ignore the pain are a problem, pain is a natural warnning sign that something is wrong, An example, those with high pain threshlds are able to ignore pain, and a couple of hockey players I play with ignored pain until their broken bones needed pinning and they lost some joint mobility. Others have ignored heart attacks as minor pain, when they shoudl havebeen gettign them checked out, one, a very fit guy aged 63 died from a massive heart attack, and his wife said he had had minor chest paisn for a while, the doctors reckoned he had had some fairly major heart attacks. Ignoring pain (whether it be from ahigh pain threshold or by using placebo's that get your mind to think the pain isn't there, or by taking pain killers long term) is dangerous.

Pretty hard to follow your reasoning. but you sound like you are convinced it is all placebo. I can understand that and it is exactly what I thought it would be. I have used it for 6 weeks. I just finished driving 300 miles today. no back pain. poor science maybe, but honestly no back pain, that hasn't happened that way for years. All I can say is since I have put on the BionicBand my back has not been this good for years and it may be worth a try, Even if there wasnt a money back option $65 for a no side effect trial cant be all that bad. Calling me [censor] and a scammer is not called for.

If your testimony is that you used the bionic band and your pain reduced, fine.

If your testimony is that the bionic band works, garbage it does not the sciecen they quote does not work, and there is no evidecne that the band itself does anything whatsoever.

If your testimony is that the bionic band reduced your pain, again garbage, no evidence for that whatsoever.

Just because the scammers sellign the product provide absolutely no evidence but say you can have your moeny back if the placebo effect doesn't happen it does not mean there is no fraud and no scam. i don't get what you don't understand about that. Taking money off people when advertising that your product has a physcial effect when it simply does not is fraud and a scam, which is reliant on people fceeling a placebo efect to make sure they make money. Your testimonyt if it in any way attributes the "pain relief" you felt to the band having any effect is false and you are a fraud.

PS, that's not an insult it is a statement of fact.

Fangio
Complaints board is a for and against forum. Did you think only whiners are allowed? I guess that explains why you think everyone should subscribe to your biased rants. Funny thing I am watching TV also. I am starting to be like you and true I am way too much on this subject but hey I am getting some pleasure in insulting you and seeing how your typing goes as I hit the spot. (I don't find your insults to me very entertaining try harder please)
Whats wrong with testimonies anyway? The bible says we will overcome "with the blood of the Lamb and the word of our testimony"
The New testament is based on testimony, Is Jesus a fraud and scammer? Just because it is based on testimony.
What I am saying is You cant and shouldn't claim my testimony is false and call me a fraud. Of course you can but It still is my testimony and and true to me. Bionic Band works try it .It reduced the pain in my back it may or may not work for you. If you have tried everything else and never got results try Bionic Band You have nothing to lose you can get your money back.

No, it's a con that's all, this is a complaints board yet muppets like yourself come oin here to counter complaints with "I hitnk it works so there" and nothign else. My angel is that peopel like yourself flood boards like this with "positive" reviews with no backing, and have a oc, mplete disregard for the law and regulations. If you want to post on a board where no one will point out that there is no evidnce for this band doing anything then don't post on a complaints board.

It's not much time and effort I am watching TV and typing at the same time, hence the spelling errors.

Don't use this product it has never been tested, or shown to work in any way at all, and the law requires products which makes the claims it does to be tested. The only reason for not submitting for the testing is because it has no effect whatsoever. It is a con and despite the [censor]s posting on here that it works there is absolutley no way you should waste your money on a product makign grand claims with nothing at all to back it up. You woudl be being scammed, despite the mutterings of those who have eitehr bought or are sellign the emperors new clothes to you.

Now Canoe, if you think I am spending too much time on this don't be a hypiocrite stop posting.

Whats your angle Fangio I cant believe you would spend all this effort and fantasize on the evils of this great scam. Is there anyone else out there that believes this alarmist? Society just might self implode if we don't nip this in the bud. Dont use this product folks we cant be sure this wont harm you and and you are gambling with your children's future. Once you use it will be too late you will become sucked in and be morally lost and in the end you will have hell as your reward.
So folks take heed to [censored]io warnings life as we know is at stake here.
Or
what I say "Try it, you can always get you money back". It worked for Me
Canoe

So no evidence to offer other than attribution which could be placebo (and in every other product that has been independently double blind tested using the same tests that Bionic Band claim shows their product works have been shown to be placebo).

Fine go ahead, wear it, however don't come on a complaints board saying it works when you haven't got a clue whether it is having any efect or whehter it is a placebo. Don't come on saying it works and peopel who disagree who have bothered to read the "science" behind it and can see it's complete BS are biased, clearly you are biased as you are sayign ti works with no evidecne AT ALL that it can work, and that the effects you are "feeling" are placebo.

And most of all, don't com eon here telling people nobody needs to regulate it, when clearly the LAW says they do.