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Two kittens died of fip within 5 mos.
Purchased two kittens born 2/2/23 from Terra Siberian from Michigan. Pickup kittens 5/6/23. Paid $1400 together. Both went to vet within 10 days. On 6/12 one kitten was the size of a football and diagnosed with fib after blood work and fluid tested in belly. 2nd kitten showed no signs at that time. 10/26 2nd kitten was lethargic and had a hard belly. Taken...
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Terra Siberians’s earns a 4.2-star rating from 0 reviews and 9 complaints, showing that the majority of cat enthusiasts are very satisfied with their Siberian kittens.
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Fraud
I was about to enter into an agreement with these Terra Siberians “people” for a kitten and send them a $350 Deposit. CHASE and ZELLE froze the transfer and lit my account up with a FRAUD notification attached to the recipient account. The email addresses they have been using to communicate with me are [protected]@gmail.com and amida.[protected]@gmail.com. The second one is what raised the FRAUD alert with CHASE/ZELLE today and they stopped the transaction, thankfully helping me avoid getting ripped off from these folks. I will be filing a police report for fraud and reporting their URL: www.terrasiberiankittens.com/
Desired outcome: STOP TRYING TO DEFRAUD PEOPLE. I hope I get the police to catch up to you and stop this.
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer's satisfaction.
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Breeder nightmare
This breeder is a nightmare! First, she lied about having an upcoming litter and when I questioned, she would keep stalling. This went on for 3 months (of course, after I had already put down my deposit). After the litter was born, it took a month until she would send a picture - kept saying she was too busy with her job. Finally got the pictures and chose the kitten I wanted to adopt. I was told that she wouldn't release until 10-12 weeks in age. This would fall into the first week of the year. The week before Christmas, she reached out and said he was ready, trying to push me to pick up sooner. I got her to agree to New Years Eve. She promised that all the necessary shots would be taken care of prior to my arrival. He only received 1 shot (2 days prior to me picking him up - he should have had the 6 week shot and the 9 week shots done).
She kept telling me that the little guy wouldn't eat wet food yet - which seemed very strange to me.?
When I arrived, my little guy was all matted up, dirty, smelly and was missing fur on his neck and his whiskers were cut! I was polite and didn't mention it, trying not to cause a scene. She, then brought out 2 of her other cats and they were FILTHY and terribly MATTED!
This woman does NOT care, at all, about these cats. I wish someone could take them all away from her!
Desired outcome: Having the cats taken away from her!
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer's satisfaction.
Deposit not refunded; dishonesty throughout
The summary: The kitten we'd reserved died and the breeder failed to inform us, dodged our messages, and has not yet returned our $300 deposit.
The more detailed version: When we first met the breeder, she offered us the chance to visit the cat we reserved whenever we wanted until we were able to bring it home. When we followed up with her a week later about doing so, we got numerous delay-tactic messages like "let me check my schedule, " "I had x illness but I'll let you know, " "I had y illness but I'll let you know, " "I'm working but I'll let you know, " etc. Finally I wrote about how discouraged we were that we'd sent so many messages without getting a real response and the breeder replied, "are you the ones who reserved the orange cat?" and went on to say that that cat had died "the other night." In other words, she'd withheld this information from us in order to continue holding onto our deposit. Even if you want to try to excuse this as pure disorganization and not actual theft, that's still not okay. I asked for a return of our deposit and have not heard back since. I'm posting here in an attempt to get a response and refund from this breeder.
The deposit was ultimately refunded. I would like to remove my complaint.
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2 kittens
I received a beautiful kitten from liz at terra siberian, other then uti and herpes in his eye he was very healthy. Both uti and herpes was treated. After about 6 months my family decided to get him a friend ❤, this is where the nightmare began! The little girl stole my families heart. But sadly she passed at roughly 6 months old from fip. We lost her on christmas eve couple years ago. Devistating my family.. Just a slow horrible way for a kitten to pass. Liz at 1st seemed caring, and gave us a replacement kitten 4 months after. This kitten thank god was extremely healthy. So we thought ok, this was just a fluke. Siberians are so loving you can't help but to have more lol. So a good year later we decided to get 2 more kittens. Yes, that would be 4 total lol but trust me they are so worth it. So we got 2 more. We come home and right away noticed the 1 kitten was limping, liz kept saying he was fine. So we took them to the vet for a check up and come to find out they both were treated for herpes and worms. Also had a xray on our guys leg/hip. Come to find out he was born without a ball to his femur! Meaning his leg is not attached to the hip! Liz had to know something wasnt right. And long story short the other kitten died from fip 2 months later! Stay away from liz. If you get a healthy cat, thank god! But people its not worth the risk. She will even discount kittens knowing they are sick, but convince you they are healthy! Its horrible a human can cause so much hurt to a single family. She shouldn't breed.
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Cat breeding
I am going to share my negative experience with Terra Siberians cattery. This is a personal experience that occurred in the summer of 2016.
I spent a while researching cat breeds and I decided on a Siberian cat. Terra Siberians is located in Waterford, Michigan. After my research, I decided to get a retired male Siberian cat named Glam from the breeder Liz. ( I was looking for an adult cat, not a kitten).
A few pictures were shared with me online as well as the cat's personality and a price was set to purchase the cat Glam. Liz told me that the cat (Glam) would be sold to me unaltered because her vet charges an upwards of $500 to neuter cats. And since it was so high, I would need to find a vet to neuter the cat. While I thought this was strange, I agreed to it.
I drove to Waterford to pick up the cat. Liz was nice when I went to pick up the cat. BUT the cat was very matted when I picked him up. I thought this was also strange since she kept saying how much he liked to be brushed. I figured a breeder would take care of the cats fur. Glam was shy when I first picked him up and I thought that to be normal. It takes cats time to warm up to new people.
I took Glam home and it immediately turned into a disaster. My vet confirmed he had a UTI and crystals in his urine. A licensed vet confirmed he was not sold to me in good health. Glam would hiss and try to bite me. I couldn't get within five feet of him. And since he was unaltered, he was spraying EVERYTHING. Liz assured me he wouldn't spray but be did. I was new to male cats so I didn't realize how bad it could be. I tried for weeks to get him used to me, nothing was working. He was a very aggressive cat.
When I messaged Liz on facebook about it, she kept saying to give it more time. I tried but weeks went by.
His behavior was not changing. I asked Liz if I could give her the cat back and if she could give me a refund. I only asked for a refund because she didn't give him to me in good health and this caused me to have a couple large vet bills. She refused and I didn't push it too hard. I knew I needed to find him a new home.
This is where I became thoroughly frustrated. Liz found a different family to take Glam. I told her I would only give her back the cat to give to the other family if she told them everything about Glam. His aggressive personality and spraying habits. She said she did. I got the contact information from that family and spoke to the wife. LIZ DID NOT TELL THE OTHER FAMILY. They thought they were going to buy a very friendly male cat with no issues. So I told the family about my experience and they were appalled. They didn't end up taking Glam.
Side Note:
While Glam was in my care, I was curious about his pedigree. I asked Liz if she had it to give to me and she did not. She had told me the name of the breeder in Europe where Glam originally came from. So I contacted this breeder to ask if I could see the pedigree. This breeder was shocked and upset at the fact that Liz had sold me her male cat. And this breeder was even more upset that he was sold to me unaltered. When Liz purchased this cat from a breeder in Europe, part of the contract was that it would not be sold again to anyone else without prior authorization. As a breeder, Liz should have taken that more seriously. I was very apologetic to the original breeder of Glam and let her know I was sorry.
So after the other interested family backed out of adopting Glam, I didn't know what to do. I couldn't keep an aggressive make cat who was spraying all over my house. Liz assured me the spraying would go away once he was neutered. I joined several facebook siberian cat and purebred cat pages. EVERYONE I spoke with said no cat should be sold unaltered. And that the cat will not stop spraying even when it is altered.
My overall experience with this breeder was AWFUL! I will not ever buy another cat from this breeder. I personally thought she was unprofessional and didn't take care of the cats.
I ended up getting a different siberian cat from a breeder in Grand Rapids, Michigan. I would looking at other breeders. No breeder should lie to you and sell you a sick cat, EVER! And if a breeder creates a cat contract with you and expects you to follow through with it, they should follow through with their own. Liz did not do that according to the original breeder of Glam.
Again, this is my own personal experience. I am entitled to my own opinions and thoughts. But again, please be advised if you plan on buying a cat through her.
I’m glad you found a different kitten from a reputable breeder. I did the same thing. I have read several complaints from sumerous people about Terra Siberians. Everytime, Liz always says she’s dealing with a death in the family or a family emergency. Instead of just owning up to her poor business choices.
Offering to take the cat back 7 months after I originally adopted him doesn't help me. She knows I don't have him anymore.
I'm happy that other people have had successful experiences with Terra Siberians. I hope no else gets a sick cat.
This was a summary of my experience that went on for a couple months. A liscensed vet determined Glam was unhealthy. Not unhealthy due to environment change or stress. Unhealthy due to previous care for the cat. Care that Liz provided. There were other medical issues that GLAM had but I only mentioned a few. My contract with Liz stated I would get Glam neutered. Which I did. But I was told after that, Liz would NOT take the cat back because she could no longer use him for breeding. And she told me she could NOT have two male adult cats in her home. Because of territory issues. Which I understand. So to be clear, Liz told me numerous times should COULD NOT take the cat back and wouldn't give me a refund.
Also, I only contacted the breeder of Glam because a person who Liz put me in contact with who was thinking about taking Glam wanted his pedigree. And Liz said she didn't have it. I had no hidden agenda there. But once the family saw the temperament of the cat, they backed out.
Dealing with Liz was beyond frustrating and disappointing. At first Liz was so extremely kind and helpful. We were sure we had found the perfect breeder and the perfect kitten for our kids. They had been so eager for a kitten but we thought it was impossible due to their allergies. We were so excited when we found out about this breed and the kids were elated that they were going to get a kitten for the holidays. Then the night before we were going to meet our new kitten, Liz emailed me and told me that she had to cancel our visit. OK I can understand that things come up and I know that her mom is having serious health problems. But Liz completely ghosted me. She wouldn't return my calls, my emails, my texts, nothing. She didn't offer a time to reschedule. The rest of the weekend passed, the week passed. I sent more emails, texts, calls, No reply from Liz. I have no idea if she sold the kitten to someone else, If the kitten died, what happened? Extremely unprofessional. After a few weeks, I found another kitten from a more professional breeder.
I’m glad you went to a reputable breeder elsewhere to get a kitten. I did as well. There have been numerous people step forward to share their stories about sick kittens being sold from Terra Siberians. You’re lucky you didn’t end up purchasing one through Liz. After every complaint from a buyer, Liz always uses the excuse of a death in the family or a family emergency. Instead of owning up to her own poor breeding decisions.
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Did you have Glamour put down? Whether or not you like Liz, can you think about those two little girls you met that first day? I have daughters around the same age. Couldn't you offer an olive branch, so to speak and just let them know if he is alright? 2 of my Siberians are Glamour's kids. I'D take him if he needed a home. Could I contact whomever has him now and ask if they would sell him to me? If he is still earthside.
And I'm sorry my post got sent so many times. It kept telling me "error" but then I actually saw it posted multiple times. We all love our Siberians, no matter who the breeder is. I sincerely hope ammends can be made in this situation. We are all human. We all make mistakes. I wish you nothing but happiness in your future and hope this conflict resolves itself soon for everyone's peace of mind. Could you find it in your heart to at least give my contact info to whoever has Glam? Or let Liz and her daughter's know that he is doing okay?
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Ughhh I have a complaint with this ComplaintBoard website. I have spent way more time than I care to admit, trying to post the entirety of my reply. As soon as I log off, my reply disappears. I log back in, and it's there! Ughhh.
It's so unfortunate that a few complaints on a forum could turn into something like a life goal to shut down a cattery and ruin a person's reputation. While there have been three or four complaints, there have been many, many more great experiences.
But alas this is a complaint forum not a praise forum. I would personally recommend Terra Siberians to anyone. I have had nothing but great experiences with her. Each of the three cats that I have from her are everything I hoped they would be. I hope this situation can be settled peacefully, and that you will give Liz her cat back, in exchange for your money. I will always vouch for Liz as she has never been anything that sincere, honest, genuine, and kind hearted. I am not trying to hide behind a screen name. My name is Sarah Tucker and I can be reached at Tucker party of five at Gmail dot com if anyone ever wants to speak to me. I'd encourage people to do their research always before selecting a breeder but understand that a handful of opinions are not the majority here. Liz has homed many kittens to loving families who are completely satisfied with their experience with her.
I received no compensation for this post, and nobody told me to post it. 🙄
As far as Liz's personality, I feel like she is one of the most generous, caring people that I have known in a long time. It's so unfortunate that a few complaints on a forum could turn into something like a life goal to shut down a cattery and ruin a person's reputation. While there have been 3 or 4 complaints, there have been many, many more great experiences. But alas, this is a complaint forum, not a praise forum.
As far as Liz's personality, I feel like she is one of the most generous, caring people that I have known in a long time. It's so unfortunate that a few complaints on a forum could turn into something like a life goal to shut down a cattery and ruin a person's reputation. While there have been 3 or 4 complaints, there have been many, many more great experiences. But alas, this is a complaint forum, not a praise forum.
I would personally recommend Terra Siberians to anyone one. I have had nothing but great experiences with her. Each of the three cats that I have from her are everything I hoped they would be. I hope this situation can be settled peacefully and that you will give Liz back her cat in exchange for your money back.
I will always vouch for Liz, as she has never been anything but sincere, honest, genuine and kind hearted. I'd encourage people to do their research always before selecting a breeder, but understand that 4 people's opinions are not the majority. Liz has homed many kittens to loving families who are completely satisfied with their experiences.
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As far as Liz's personality, I feel like she is one of the most generous, caring people that I have known in a long time. It's so unfortunate that a few complaints on a forum could turn into something like a life goal to shut down a cattery and ruin a person's reputation. While there have been 3 or 4 complaints, there have been many, many more great experiences. But alas, this is a complaint forum, not a praise forum.
I would personally recommend Terra Siberians to anyone one. I have had nothing but great experiences with her. Each of the three cats that I have from her are everything I hoped they would be. I hope this situation can be settled peacefully and that you will give Liz back her cat in exchange for your money back.
I will always vouch for Liz, as she has never been anything but sincere, honest, genuine and kind hearted. I'd encourage people to do their research always before selecting a breeder, but understand that 4 people's opinions are not the majority. Liz has homed many kittens to loving families who are completely satisfied with their experiences.
As far as Liz's personality, I feel like she is one of the most generous, caring people that I have known in a long time. It's so unfortunate that a few complaints on a forum could turn into something like a life goal to shut down a cattery and ruin a person's reputation. While there have been 3 or 4 complaints, there have been many, many more great experiences. But alas, this is a complaint forum, not a praise forum.
I would personally recommend Terra Siberians to anyone one. I have had nothing but great experiences with her. Each of the three cats that I have from her are everything I hoped they would be. I hope this situation can be settled peacefully and that you will give Liz back her cat in exchange for your money back.
I will always vouch for Liz, as she has never been anything but sincere, honest, genuine and kind hearted. My name is Sarah Tucker and I can be reached at tuckerpartyoffive at g mail dot com if anyone ever wants to speak to me. I'd encourage people to do their research always before selecting a breeder, but understand that 4 people's opinions are not the majority. Liz has homed many kittens to loving families who are completely satisfied with their experiences.
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I will always vouch for Liz, as she has never been anything but sincere, honest, genuine and kind hearted. My name is Sarah Tucker and I can be reached at tuckerpartyoffive @ gmail. com if anyone ever wants to speak to me. I'd encourage people to do their research always before selecting a breeder, but understand that 4 people's opinions are not the majority. Liz has homed many kittens to loving families who are completely satisfied with their experiences.
As far as Liz's personality, I feel like she is one of the most generous, caring people that I have known in a long time. It's so unfortunate that a few complaints on a forum could turn into something like a life goal to shut down a cattery and ruin a person's reputation. While there have been 3 or 4 complaints, there have been many, many more great experiences. But alas, this is a complaint forum, not a praise forum.
I would personally recommend Terra Siberians to anyone one. I have had nothing but great experiences with her. Each of the three cats that I have from her are everything I hoped they would be. I hope this situation can be settled peacefully and that you will give Liz back her cat in exchange for your money back.
I will always vouch for Liz, as she has never been anything but sincere, honest, genuine and kind hearted. My name is Sarah Tucker and I can be reached at tuckerpartyoffive@gmail.com if anyone ever wants to speak to me. I'd encourage people to do their research always before selecting a breeder, but understand that 4 people's opinions are not the majority. Liz has homed many kittens to loving families who are completely satisfied with their experiences.
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Adopted kitten died and owners were threatening and abusive
My family adopted a kitten from Terra Siberians, which began displaying signs of illness shortly after adoption and died, traumatizing my child. The owners of this business made inconsistent denial and acceptance of responsibility, and quickly became erratic and threatening. I have waited a long time to post this because I don't want them harassing my family any more than they already have. They are known locally for selling sick kittens, and for threatening people who try to make this known.
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer's satisfaction.
I have been a victim of cyber bullying by Angela Otterson of Minnesota and her 16 personalities and have had a 12 year veteran police officer at my home 2 nights ago to adopt a kitten. We sat at length discussing cyber bullying and right now I have Officer Gene S.on my side. He was a past Oakland County deputy. He says Cyber bullying is a crime. I have countless testimonials to squish her evilness. I and my girls love what we do and I have made many families happy who couldnt have pets due to allergies over the past 10 years. I am aiming at a damaging lawsuit against Angela Otterson of Minniapolis Minnesota for damages to Terra Siberians.
I tried to get a job and due to your posts here I am ruined. Please stop. I am done I can't handle this anymore. I am a nice person who aims to please. What do you want so you can stop harassing me?
Please file your complaint with http://www.bbb.org/detroit it is free to file and the Breeder / Cattery will have the opportunity to prove their side or make it right to remove complaint. Free service and impartial. If you truly want to protect others I encourage anyone to use this route.
I have a posted a separate complaint about this breeder on this website. If you search Terra Siberians you can find it. I'm sorry you had a such a terrible experience. I had one as well. I hope we can stop people from going to this breeder.
You have been compensated beyond our contract guidelines. You asked and you received. You have said I had a restraining order...I went to the local authorities and they were clueless...and thought I was nuts for asking. No restraining order ever. You had said that our license was revoked by TICA which is hilarious since they are only a registry. You had said we were shut down in 2010 by Oakland County Animal Control for dirty litter boxes which is hilarious as well. They do not check for dirty litter boxes nor did we even reside in this state in that year. And the list goes on. Deny all you want...we had your ISP investigated. We never demanded you remove your complaint. You told us, after we thought we satisfied you, that you would stop at no cost to shut us down. We also know you have an alias on our face book page. Not worried because you are your own enemy. Happy Trails!
LIES, LIES, LIES AND MORE FALSE ACCUSATIONS OF COURSE. If you had my computer ISP investigated then u would know I DIDN'T MAKE ANY OF THE POSTS THAT DON'T HAVE MY NAME ON THEM AS U HAVE BEEN TOLD MANY TIMES! I'm sure the cops did think u were nuts considering I have never filed a restraining order against u BECAUSE u do not intimidate me and the post about u threatening to put a clients address on craigslist is not mine. Obviously Liz Hart of Waterford MI who is now selling kittens as Liz Pettegrew of Bloomfield MI is worried or she would not continue to harass, threaten and post lies about me. U would like everyone to think the other posts on these boards were mine, however, once again u fail to remember that Liz Hart aka Liz Pettegrew of Terra Siberians posted the names of other unhappy customers on these boards herself! Once again Terra Siberians should have a privacy policy in their contract to protect anyone who fills out your ridiculous contract that only protects u as the breeder and not the client from Liz Hart aka Liz Pettegrew and Harry Hart from releasing clients home addresses online. One of those clients posted Liz and Harrys address on these boards in a complaint and they claimed it was a safety issue and bullied them into deleting the post although they invite strangers to their home all the time while running this business and even posted their own address on these complaint boards. To bad Liz and Harry only care about their safety and not the safety of their clients, in my opinion. Do your research and do not give Liz Hart aka Liz Pettegrew or Harry Hart your address when filling out Terra Siberians contract. Harry, u can continue to post false info, Liz can call me all the names she can come up with even harass me and u both can continue to post lies, threats, false accusations and bully me while trying to play cop, lawyer, victim and breeder BUT anyone reading these posts are not buying anything from me. It is also not very Christian of u as u claim to be, in my opinion. U both are so full of BS I can smell it all the way in MN with the wind blowing the opposite direction, LOL. As for the Facebook page u claim is an alias...I had to use our second acct which was established before our dispute because u blocked our main page so your customers only see what u want them too. I ALSO POSTED MY NAME ON ANY POST I PUT ON YOUR PAGE! U try to make it sound like I anonymously posted to your facebook which is not the case now is it Harry Hart.
Liz Hart of Terra Siberians, once again THIS IS NOT MY POST, STOP HARASSING ME. YOU WILL NEVER BULLY ME INTO REMOVING MY ORIGINAL POST ABOUT MY EXPERIENCE WITH YOU. U were able to bully the other person that posted their complaint of FIP into removing their post but u will not bully me into anything. Haven't you put me through enough with your accusations, lies, harassment, bulling, sick cats and BS. If I was going to take the time to make a post about you it would have my name on it and a copy of the threat Terra Siberians made to me to remove my complaint. I have NO interest in what you are doing nowadays. I am far to busy with my kids and cats to care about you or if u are selling cats. I come on these boards about once a month only to make sure u are not trying to have my original complaint removed again for not responding within 30 days. After seeing the way u have harassed me why would anyone else use their real name. How can a police officer take your side without getting information from both sides first. I have not been contacted by any attorney or police officer. Furthermore, u have claimed breeding cats is a hobby for you and there is no money in it for u. Now you claim you are going to sue for damages or loss due to my complaint and tried to get a job because u aren't able to sell your cats. Always contradicting yourself. I have proof of all my comments about u and I can also prove these posts u accuse me of aren't mine so go ahead and spend your money to sue instead of continuing to just make threats about it as I'm sure it will just be thrown out of court anyway. Anyone reading your nonsense can see u are the one harassing and bulling me as I have only replied to your accusations, lies and threats, in my opinion. I want nothing from u but to be left alone. U claim to be a nice person yet u post things like Angie and her 16 personalities, only low life people use these boards, calling me a child (I'm 40 years old)ect. Your husband has posted ugly thing about special needs children and their parents yet has a special needs child himself but lies about it only showing he is ashamed in my opinion. Your husband, Harry Hart, claims I made a bad choice for a husband because we are not rich yet he divorced his 1st wife and his current wife is claiming to have tried to commit suicide over a complaint about her cats. Looks like Harry is the one making bad choices in partners, not me, in my opinion. You maybe a nice person when someone is handing over hundreds of dollars to u but u sure don't know how to deal with people if they have a complaint about a sick cat they paid those hundreds of dollars for, in my experience with Terra Siberians anyway. You continue to only prove my initial complaints about u are true even without me having to post my proof, just how unstable u really are and what people/families will have to deal with if they choose u as a breeder, in my opinion. U have already admitted u shouldn't have charged me for my replacement kitten after my 1st kitten died of FIP yet not only did u charge me but sold me one that was unfit for sale due to fleas and stinky bloody diarrhea. Then YOU CONTACTED ME 3 months later to offer a refund stating u spoke to other breeders who told u that u shouldn't have never charged me for the replacement kitten to begin with, then claimed I was extorting the money from u. If u have been such a great breeder for 10 yrs as u claim why would u have to speak other breeders to figure out what u did was wrong to begin with. In my opinion, u have only damaged yourself by not doing right by me and stopping all communication with me which is why I posted my original complaint on these boards to begin with. Look at yourself and how you dealt with the situation if u are looking to blame anyone. You only have yourself to blame, in my opinion. U also waited months before contacting me to find out who the mother of my kitten was that died of FIP, only after a client contacted u inquiring if the dam was removed from your cattery. U didn't remove her immediately after I informed of FIP and u don't keep good enough records to know yourself what mother it was which is probably why u had a second kitty die of FIP as well, in my opinion. I have no reason to post anonymously and the more u harass me the more info I end up posting that I haven't already posted so stop blaming me and LEAVE ME ALONE LIZ.
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Breeders, buyers, beware!
I am a cat breeder in Northern Ohio, and received five calls in the past seven months from people who had very sad, horrific stories about receiving dead, dying, flea-ridden, diarrhea-covered, or otherwise completely unhealthy kittens from Terra Siberians, a backyard breeder located in the state of Michigan. If you have managed to get a healthy cat from them, you are an absolute minority. This has become my personal mission as a breeder to protect people who have called me and asked for my advice on dealing with sociopaths posing as cat breeders. One woman in Texas, for instance, received her kitten (it was shipped) dead. Absolutely dead. I've been following the posts on here for over a year, quietly, and attempting to gather information. It looks like they have at least three or four people they are threatening now -- and so it's high time someone who stands up for ethical cat breeding and TICA standards steps in and blows the whistle. These people who've adopted sick cats, one of whom paid $1400 for one, have called my business line or joined my pet loss support group and it's just happened too many times to not call this out. Contact any cat breeder, especially Siberian breeders, in the midwest and they will tell you about Terra Siberians' reputation. Please don't only take my word for it; call around to breeders and you'll see they have all received the sad calls I have from people in tears, trying to figure out what went wrong. I invite you to do your research before you buy, including the ads on this page. I know it is a complaint board, but these are real people and they've cried to me on the phone -- I can vouch for them. Call or email any other Siberian breeder around this region of Ohio-Michigan and learn more yourself.
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I've gotten two cats from Terra Siberians. Liz has been a God-send for my family. My cats are a year apart. One born in 2014 and the other 2015. They both came healthy and well socialized. I adore them and plan to purchase one more from Liz in the future. Just want to encourage people that there are two sides to every story. I think the amount of people that love their Terra Siberians is so much greater than the few that have had something negative to say.
My cats are completely healthy. This year will be 3 years since we've had Kitasha. She's never been sick. Of course we've had the occasional hairball ;) Good luck in your search for a Siberian. They are THE BEST! And good for you for doing your research! A lot of people don't. Happy hunting! Oh, and before I go, just wanted to point out that Terra Siberians has been in operation for a decade and there is a handful of complaints on the forum. Know that this is a minority. There are hundreds of happy, healthy, Terra Siberians out there. To each his/her own. Excited for you to join the Siberian cat club. We definitely have the coolest cats around. 😎😻
Liz Hart of Terra Siberians, this is not my post and I have NEVER signed onto these complaint boards as anyone other than myself. I have never even seen Alice in Wonderland and would never have even known who Alice Kingsley is. Like I've said before...I have proof of all my complaints about u and nothing is twisted or untruthful. NOT my problem u have others that are unhappy. I have posted my name on all my posts about u. I just happened to be one person that is not intimidated by u or your husbands threats and used my real name.Not that u haven't taken personal info given to u in clients contracts to expose others. The only bully is your husband, Harry Hart, who has threatened me via email to apologize for my complaint. This is a complaint board used to warn others which I did because u refused to handle things privately and refund my money. Once again, more untrue accusations about me but no answers to the questions I have asked u about your breeding practices. Lets keep to the point, your kittens. Take me to court, I have proof of everything I have said on these boards or anywhere else. U are just upset u can't answer my questions, instead just want to post accusations about me. Cyber stalking, I've looked up some of those cases, people who have hacked accts and posted explicit pictures. Now its cyber bullying, threatening unwanted texts ECT, . Only threats have been from your husband, Harry Hart. Slander, defamation of character, only if my comments or accusations are untrue and they are not. U are the one doing that to me. I didn't even know this was posted until u brought my attention to it. Why would I pose as a breeder after I have posted u accused me of trying to breed the kitten I purchased from u. I was just going to ignore u at this point since all u do is post lies and rubbish. Maybe instead I will just copy and past all my proof on the boards so all your accusations stop. More of my time u are wasting. Where is all the proof of your accusations? When are u going to stop bulling me? Please stop Liz this is getting ridiculous...in my opinion and experience.
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Liz hart, harry hart - cat breeder threatened my personal safety
I received a sick kitten from Terra Siberians. I handled it diplomatically, despite how horrific the experience was for us (the kitten had FIP). I have since received threats to my personal safety from Harry Hart, saying he is going to release my address to people online via a CraigsList personal ad, inviting attackers to my home. I have had to file a...
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