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Rick johnston sold me a English bulldog puppy that was SUPPOSED to be a show quality English bulldog puppy for $6,150.He gave me a story that he had a puppy that he was holding for a guy that was going to give to his son to start showing, but that when it was time to get the puppy the guy was going thru a divorce and couldn't take him. And he told me he would put me in front of his so called waiting list and sale me the puppy. He told me he was show quality and that I needed to show him so I could make him more valuable for stud service. I told rick that I was looking for a show quality bulldog to start showing and also be able to use him eventually as my stud for my breeding program. Rick guaranteed me he was all of this. When he shipped me the puppy he was almost 4 months old and weighed a mere 10.5lbs. I questioned rick about his quality and size and he assured me he was show quality and give him time he would grow. After this I was realizing rick johnston is a fraud and I started contacting breeders who show English bulldogs and I sent them pictures of him and they all stated he was far from show quality. They stated he was way too small and show standard calls for a bulldog to be at least 50 lbs. and by the size of this guy he will be lucky to reach 40lbs. full grown. Also within 1 week of getting him he developed cherry eye in one eye which rick did reimburse me for the cost of the surgery. As for showing him i have been told the cherry eye automatically disqualifies him due to the fact that the dog is not allowed any alterations and the cherry eye surgery is an alteration of the eye. Besides this he has tulip ears a small and not standard shaped head. He is clearly not show quality and to top this off when he shipped the puppy to us he told us we would have his papers in 30 days. When the 30 days were up we called him and asked him again and he stated he had not drawn them yet and it would be another 30 days. Well the 30 days is up again so i e mailed him asking him for them and he stated to me that he was moving facilities and that when he built his new facilities he would draw for them. When I questioned him on this and asked how hard is it to draw the papers and asked how much longer I had to wait he wrote me back saying he is tired of my belly aching and I would get the papers when I get them. I have every right to be questioning this fraud who ripped me off $6,000 and hasn't even gave me the papers on the puppy which is now 6 months old. So basically I paid $6,000 for a non show quality bulldog with no papers. I asked this scam artist for either a partial or full refund and he told me its not going to happen. Everyone thinking about buying a bulldog from this fraud should STAY AWAY! AND RUN FROM HIM. There's more cases even worse than mine. I have filed a formal complaint about this fraud to the Arizona attorney generals office and hopefully this scam artist will be put out of business.

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Brady S. Rischman
Feb 13, 2007 6:08 pm EST

Hello Tommy,

I'm sorry for being short with you (my girlfriend was pushing me out the door).

To tell you how "ANGREE" I am with Rick would be saying the least... Like you, I bought a Bulldog (White English Bullie) from Rick Johnston in late October 2006. First thing, I was turned off by his response, which he always agreed with what I was saying (redflag #1).
*Mainly, what got my attention with your story was; it was the same line as what he told me!

That pisses me off! Like you, my dog had a price tag of US$4,800.00
And Rick kept saying the guy who he was supposed to sell the dog too was going through a divorce and if I gave him an answer rite then, he would let me have the dog the following day.

Before that, I was patiently waiting for the right dog for many of years since my last dog was ran over on Christmas Eve... And Bulldogs are hard to buy anyway because of defects and other unwanted characteristics [which you found out the hard way(I'm truly sorry for what happened, hopefully he pays for ALL the problems he has caused)with all of us!]. With everything said, I wanted to wait a little bit more...and pay a lot less!

In all the confusion, I am mad for a couple of reasons:
a. Rick lied about the litters, and where the dogs came from and where they were going... What else did he not tell us?
b. I do not have the pedigree papers, which leads me to think are they even pure english lines?
c. And that I was not the only one this happened too...

Lastly, I THINK MY DOG WAS ABUSED, she won't even let me be in the same room when she is eating. Also, Sarah (my dog) is terrified of everything, and everywhere we go.

Well, if you get this try to keep me informed on anything I can do to help you fix, or correct your situation...Best of luck, and Best of wishes!

Sincerely Brady S. Rischman
Richmond, VA
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You can contact me via blistic@cyber-rights.net OR Rischman@adelphia.net Or this yahoo account. Thnx!

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Bobette Bryan
Feb 23, 2007 8:35 pm EST

Thanks for the warning. I think the authorities should crack down on people doing scams like this. It's outrageous.

I'm looking for an English bulldog puppy. I'll stay away from this guy!

Bobette Bryan

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Stephen Singer
Mar 25, 2007 5:39 pm EDT

Not only was i scammed by rick johnston, but brentwoodbulldog.com. They sold me a miniature bulldog that was not supposed to be larger than 35 lbs, but is now 70 lbs. He has mange and was sold by brentwoodbulldog.com in florida and from a puppymill in mo. When i received the papers i called the breeder and she told me that brentwoodbulldogs.com buys sells her puppies for 2000.00 or more and she sells them to brentwoodbulldogs for 800-1200 dollars.

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Jack Deckel
Mar 27, 2007 2:44 pm EDT

I am curious as to how his plan for establishing a genetic bulldog breeder network has panned out?
apparently he wants to sell groups of puppies which upon maturation would be suitable for breeding purposes - together with some support for selling them at a premium - to establish a group of high quality breeders with bulldogs that are at least five generations not inbred or cross bred in any manner for around $5k each. One thing is for certain from the pictures of the pups on his site and the dogs he has given away or sold to celebrities they look fabulous - although a picture is hard to judge by.

I am also curious to see if any actual owners who are impressed with there purchases will post... Perhaps this one pup sold to Tommy Miller is an exception...the other pup complaint from Brady S. Rischman does not indicate any difficulty other than clerical paperwork - i am presuming the puppy is A1.

My suggestion... lets give this some more time. Most definitely other owners will see this and post... but i must say his effort to improve the breed is commendable. Mr Tommy Miller it appears he issues a contract when you purchase the pup... so some recourse you do have.

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Mathew
Apr 03, 2007 2:36 pm EDT

I have been to the website and I am pulled in so many directions, as for one if you want to go and view the pups do so. he asks for a small deposit to hold the dog and for first pick its not that much. Have you seen the show Rob and Big, their dog meaty seems to be a great example of a EBD AND it was bought from SWB.

If you look on his site he also has what to look for in an EBD and what to run away from. He also states proof of bloodlike and pedigree will be included.

BUT he does make claims that almost every other organization you should run from. AS a EBD lover It has me all over the place. I look at the pictures of his dogs and then of normal 2000$ pups that grow up and these dogs seem to have more spunk. I am going to attend a show here in AZ and see what other EBD lovers say. He has invited me to come and look at his dogs and facility, why would someone with something to hide do this?

I have heard complaints from breeders about him but not that many customers AS YOU SHOULD not for 6000$ a pup eh? If anyone can shed light on the issue let me know:)

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Mathew
Apr 03, 2007 3:10 pm EDT

PS.

I have searched other search engines and only find this one complaint ACROSS THE WHOLE WEB.. the same story on countless boards with no follow-up.

I live in AZ I will be more then happy to go there take pictures and give you my PERSONAL opinion after inspecting the dogs and papers WHICH HE OFFERS TO SHOW ANYWAYS.

PLEASE send me pictures and proof of purchase of the faulty animal, as I want to buy a EBD from him and. THANKS.

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Stephen Singer
Apr 06, 2007 6:20 am EDT

Southwest Bulldog and BrentwoodBulldog.com are scammers. Nothing more and nothing less. They import dogs from Russia or Puppy Mills in MO, NE, KS. These are known puppymill states. If you look at your papers you will be able to see exactly where your puppy came from.

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Robinson Montoya
Apr 10, 2007 9:29 am EDT

SouthWest bulldogs are definitely importers, he may have a few sires and dams in his facility but they are no where the same quality of puppies he is selling. He says he owns 9 of the top dogs abroad but if you research those dogs you will see they have other owners. $4500 -$6000 for a pup? not even the actual owners of these Ch. bulldogs charge those prices, you figure their stud service for these Ch Sires is between $600-$1000 for frozen semen. Even the dogs he has on his website arent great quality, the pictures of the Ch bulldogs he has in portraits as the sires dont even belong to him. It makes me laugh how hes selling a brindle bulldog stating it is sought over by many breeders and has a value of over $50,000 dollars and in the for sale page you see the same dog for sale for about $12,500 which is the ugliest bully ive seen, looks like an olde english.

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Derrick
Apr 29, 2007 7:55 pm EDT

Rick only sells quality bulldogs, this is why he was on the show Rob & Big and sold them their bulldog, Meaty. Rick also sold a bulldog to Oscar De La Hoya. If you pay for a $6000 bulldog that is what you are going to get, show dogs cost much much more than that. I am very happy with the business i have done with Rick.

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Tommy Miller
May 04, 2007 1:40 pm EDT

I am the one who originally stated this complaint and to add to it is has been over 3 months since I wrote this complaint and I still have not received registration papers on the dog I bought from the fraud rick johnston. I'm updating this to let people know and because of this ridiculous message from this derrick person.When I bought my bulldog from rick I was inexperienced about show quality bulldogs apparently like this derrick person. Rick johnston has no show dogs and has not put out of any of his litters a show dog to this day. And you are very wrong when saying a show dog costs more than $6,000. Check around with the top show dog breeders and you will find out. Once again I paid $6,000 dollars for a 40lb. bulldog with no registration papers,a small head, tulip ears, cherry eye, and very bad attitude with other dogs. There has been numerous times he has attacked my female for no reason. Now if this is what someone wants to get for $6,000 then rick johnston is your guy. And by the way rick gives the celebrities the bulldogs they dont pay and this is what he told me

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Sully91
Folsom, US
May 04, 2007 3:56 pm EDT

Tommy,

You are 100% correct about Rick. Rick is a fraud. I have a lot of information on him which I will post shortly. Derrick is probably a friend of Rick's and I suspect that the Mathew on this page that disagrees with you is Rick son, but I don't know that for sure. I'll get back to you with more information.

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Sully91
Folsom, US
May 05, 2007 8:37 am EDT

Rick Johnston of South West Bulldogs, Hollywood Bulldogs and The Genetic Bulldog Breeders Association is a liar, a crock and a fraud. My husband and I signed up with Rick to be part of his Genetic Bulldog Breeders Association. For that privilege Rick would charge us $25,000.00 for three females and training on breeding (which included videos made by him). Another $25,000.00 was due from the first litters born by the females. The females were to be held in co-ownership unit Rick received the full $50,000.00. After which the females ownership would be transferred to us. I had asked Rick on a number of occasions for photos and pedigrees of the girls that he was sending but Rick never seemed to have the time and assured me that we would love the girls that we were getting. We asked that only two be delivered at first and the third in a few months. When the dogs arrived we were really concerned because one had a cherry eye, one had mange and both were a horrible depictions of the breed. They also arrived with no pedigrees or paperwork. I contacted Rick and said I was concerned about how these girls looked as well as potential health issues. Remember Rick claims to only breed healthy top quality dogs. He assured me that the dogs were “A+ in standard” and that they were great breeding females. My husband and I took the females to our local vet who is very well versed in Bulldog conformation. Our vet said “I’d be embarrassed to sell these dogs for $100.00 each, they should NEVER be bred because of health concerns and conformation issues”. My husband then contacted Rick and asked him to take back the dogs. Our contract states that if we decide not to move forward for any reason we need to return the dogs to Rick immediately. Rick refused to take the dogs back. Even when we told him that we would be giving the dogs up for adoption at our local pound he still refused. You can’t tell me he thinks these dogs are worth anything if he refused to take them back. I then decided to do a little research on Rick and found the following. He does not have any of his dogs licensed in Arizona as of 5/2/07. I could not find proof that he holds a kennel license. He has pictures of impressive bulldogs on his website but he did not breed ANY of the champions. Limited Edition was bred and shown by Bomberland Bulldogs in Hungry. I spoke to the owner and he said that Limited Edition was sold to Rick in late 2005 or early 2006. The link to verify this is www.bulldogs.bomberland.hu/ click on males and then Fred and you’ll see him. Funny that Limited Edition’s pedigree is not posted on Rick’s website. I think he does not show it because the breeders name is on it. Rick also claims that he ownes a kennel in Hungry. I’ve found no proof of this. I also looked up one of Ricks females and found that she was bred by a kennel in the Netherlands her name is Sweet Pea (her sister is Sodona) and the kennel link is www.kasanbulls.nl . I also found NO proof that Rick has been breeding bulldogs for over 20 years as he claims. Type in the words Rick Johnston and bulldogs and you’ll find his website and consumer complaints nothing more. I spoke to three different breeders in the USA and none of them knew who Rick Johnston was. As far as Rick’s connection with celebrities, he gives the dogs to them for free. He told me this himself. It’s sad to say but Rick & Mathew Johnston are nothing more than a scam and a puppy mill. If you are considering buying from them please do the research first. This guy is out to make a quick buck and does not care who he steps on.

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Dan Wenzel
May 06, 2007 9:08 am EDT

I have known Rick for a few years, I have several of his dogs and I have never had a problem! Rick has always done what he says he'll do when he says he'll do it. He has been honest to a fault and very supportive when I have any questions or need information about bulldogs. I dont know what happened with with these people who say they have a problem with Rick, but like most things there are TWO sides to every story.

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Sully91
Folsom, US
May 06, 2007 5:51 pm EDT

Dan, what did Rick say happened? We have attempted to call him, mail him and email him. He will not return calls or letters. This morning he spammed out my email so I can't email him. Please post what he said happened. I'd love to hear his side of the story. I have found at least 14 other complaints about Rick. It's sad.

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Tommy Miller
May 06, 2007 7:57 pm EDT

This is to Dan. If you say rick has always done what he said he would do and you have several of his dogs you would be the first person I have found to say that.And I would love to see some pictures of the dogs you have got from him and there pedigrees. Because actually I dont believe you and I would like for you to prove me wrong. And what two sides of the story is there. He ripped me off $6,000 for a non show quality bulldog with a genetic defect and no papers and did the same to me as he did to Otilia and made my emails spammed out also. Did you not read Otilia's story what other side is there I mean he ripped them off $25,000. And now wont return there messages. Since you want to come here and be his defender and you say you have never had a problem with him then where is your proof?

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Sully91
Folsom, US
May 06, 2007 9:42 pm EDT

Tommy,

I know who Dan is and he is a very nice and trusting guy. He does trust Rick and is one of Rick's GBBA breeders. The problem is that he really does trust Rick and Rick is a great con. I truly believe that Dan is trying to do the right thing. However, what Dan is not seeing is that Rick continues to pull the wool over his eye. Dan has 5 females from Rick at route66bulldogs.com and he has yet to see one pedigree on them. When I asked Dan about this he said "I trust Rick, I'm not worried about it". He was also under the impression that Rick was the breeder of his stud Champion Limited Edition. It's easy to verify that this is not true by looking up Bomberland Bulldogs online. I really feel bad for Dan because once he figures out what is happening here it will be to late.

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Tommy Miller
May 06, 2007 10:24 pm EDT

Well like I said Otilia if he wants to be ricks defender then where is the proof. I did go and check his site but like I said pictures and pedigrees. I did not believe he would have both.If he has no pedigrees on the dogs he got from rick that he shows on his site that is bad because they all look grown and he should of had them a long time ago. So apparently he too is a victim of rick and he just hasn't figured it out yet. And if he thinks he doesnt have a problem with rick I would say hes very mistaken because to have 5 english bulldogs with no papers from the breeder I would consider a major problem. Anyways RICK JOHNSTON IS A FRAUD WHO IS GETTING EXPOSED

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RON
May 08, 2007 5:14 pm EDT

I was about to Call SW "BULL" for more information, thinking of buying my first bully. I decided to do some more research first, and I found this compelling argument... I am extremely hesitant to even look at this guys web site again.. your complaints ARE working!

AND, I agree.. someone, RICK , should be supporting HIMSELF, there is no doubt that he MUST know about these complaints, and has made no effort to contest them.

The next very important concern is WHERE DO I BUY MY BULLY? Not only was Rick @ SW completely turned down, but so was a list of other Mills, and Breeders he is apparently connected with..

The Pup will be a College Grad gift... MAY 20th

PLEASE HELP!

P.S. If you suggest a Breeder to me, please prove that you are not a part of there organization.. this is all too scary!

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Margie
May 09, 2007 9:12 am EDT

As a Bulldog Club Of America (BCA) member in good standing I can safely say just about everything you see/read on SW Bulldogs is total nonsense. There is no such thing as a Genetic Breeders Association especially not for Bulldogs ! He bashes BCA and many of it's long time respected breeders simply because he was denied membership and or the breeders he mentions refused to sell him dogs or stud to him.

He does not produce show dogs in fact I have yet to see or hear of any dogs he's personally bred /produce becoming an American champion or he would proudly be displaying them as such on his web site. The dogs you see such as Meaty owned by celebrities were given to them as an advertisement gimmick. Sorry to disappoint everyone but Meaty is NOT a quality bulldog and doesn't come close to what a standard Bulldog should look like. Go check out the breed standard depicted on both the AKC and BCA web sites.

Please I am urging you to do your home work, research the breed, read the standard , attend a few shows in your area then seek out a reputable breeder before purchasing ! BCA also has a breeder referral service and Bulldogs World has a breeder referral on their site as well. There are many Yahoo Bulldog groups available and several Bulldog forums on forum 54 as well. Tons and tons of resources !

To Ron up above:

If you need assistance please feel free to contact me and I will be more then happy to refer you to reputable breeders in your area.

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Cindy Casillas
May 12, 2007 3:07 pm EDT

I have bought 2 bulldogs in the last 5 yrs, and I have had no problems with Rick. I know a lot about bulldogs, and these are high quality bulldogs. FYI... for the lady that said there is no such thing as the GBBA... there is! Do your research... The GBBA's is to stop all the inbreeding that American Bulldog breeders do. You won't find a better breeder than Rick! I'm sorry you feel that way. I think you took it out of hand. Just because your bulldogs don't look like champions doesn't mean they can't produce champions! IT'S ALL ABOUT GENETICS !

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Sully91
Folsom, US
May 13, 2007 7:47 am EDT

Yes, The GBBA does exist, but it was created by Rick and is controlled by Rick. It is nothing more than a money maker for him. As far as your statement about genetics, it simply not true. When two different vets say that dogs should NEVER be bred because of health issues I tend to believe them. However, if you believe this type of female could produce a champion. Please show me the proof. What champions have Rick's dog's produced?

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Tommy Miller
May 13, 2007 1:32 pm EDT

Ok cindy or rick who ever you are forget all about the poor quality and the health issues what about selling $6,000 bulldogs with no papers. Rick sells POOR quality, UNHEALTHY bulldogs with no REGISTRATION PAPERS! If you got two bulldogs from him and they are healthy with papers I would love to see the proof because just like I wrote about dan wheres the proof and just like I thought he has not wrote back providing any proof.RICK JOHNSTON IS A FRAUD WHO HAS NEVER BREED NOT 1 CHAMPION AND DOES NOT HAVE ONE BIT OF CREDENTIALS IN THE BULLDOG WORLD!

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Sully91
Folsom, US
May 14, 2007 1:32 am EDT

The GBBA is an LLC that Rick started. So yes it exists, but Rick owns and runs it. By the way, what champions has the GBBA produced? Please name one if you can.

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Cindy Casillas
May 14, 2007 6:10 pm EDT

What is this all about "champion" dogs? It's about health, not about "champion". You have to take your dogs to shows to be a "champion"! Not everyone shows their dogs. TO Tommy, I received my papers... Maybe you should have not paid for your bulldogs before you received the papers. I think it's more your faults than Rick's.

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Tommy Miller
May 14, 2007 10:51 pm EDT

Like I said cindy wheres your proof?And how ridiculous are you? CAN YOU READ? The complaints here have all stated HEALTH PROBLEMS!And that fraud rick uses the champion statement. I have not heard of one dog he has produced that has been shown and placed in any points much less be a champion. And for your just flat out ridiculous statement that its more my fault than ricks how could you possibly think that. Rick is a fraud who rips honest people off. I have not heard of one person who has received papers from this fraud. Read all posts(if you can read) dan has 5 bulldogs from rick all with no papers so I highly doubt you have papers. This is to say this is some cindy and not rick, or matt or even some other fraud in with rick. BUT LIKE I SAID WHERES THE PROOF! IF YOU CANT PRODUCE ANY PROOF QUIT POSTING YOUR RIDICULOUS COMMENTS!

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Jocasta Jansen
May 14, 2007 11:29 pm EDT

Good evening. Just joined this board, just saw this discussion. Um, I culled this from the GBBA website itself.

The GBBA will hold their own shows and at the shows you will have your own booth. There is a soon coming Celebrity Website where you may post your pups for sale as well. Check out the celebrities on my site now and wait until you see who else will be appearing in the future. Many of our pups have gone to people in Hollywood and I have given away over 100K in bulldogs last year to promote the GBBA. In fact, a reality show will air on MTV this summer where a certain celebrity picked up his pup and they filmed for eight hours at our facility. Rob and Big is now on the air.

Anyone care to contact MTV and tell them the truth? If not, *I* will.

Just happy to help.

Jocasta

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Sully91
Folsom, US
May 15, 2007 4:56 pm EDT

Cindy,

How could you possibly say that it is more Tommy's fault than Rick's? Clearly you have an agenda hear and you're not being honest about your involvement with Rick. Did you not read Tommy's initial posting? Rick told him he was getting a show quality dog and he sold him a lie. I'm with Tommy, provide proof to back up what you are saying. Perhaps the AKC number of your dogs that are registered to you. It's easy enough for Tommy to pull the pedigree on line.

Jocasta, please feel free to call MTV and share the information on this board.

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Mike Fillmore
May 17, 2007 9:00 am EDT

My name is Mike, I live in Jacksonville, Florida. And I purchased a bulldog from Rick Johnston, about two years ago. This dog is so fantastic. Words cannot even describe it. He has taken first place in four shows already. It's funny, Tommy Miller has posted a complaint about Rick Johnston on here. Yet, Tommy Miller is best friends with one of the largest line breeders in America. I can understand how he would be so confused as to what her real bulldog actually looked like. The genetic bulldog breeders Association is a fantastic association. It's ignorant people like yourselves, that don't realize what good it's doing. If it's such a bad thing, and Rick is such a bad man. Why did they donate so much money to St. Jude's children Hospital. I believe that all of you have been misled by your own emotions instead of acting on reality. Surely a money grubbing man such as Rick Johnston would not be interested in separating from his money. You're all fools with nothing better to do than to sit on the Internet and talk trash about something good. Shame on all of you for what you've done and what you're trying to do.

Sincerely, Mike Fillmore, Jacksonville, Florida

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Margie
May 17, 2007 11:50 am EDT

Mike and any other GBBA

If all that you say is true then why do they need to steal photo's of puppies running on the beach that were bred by BCA members ?

If you all produced such beautiful puppies why not use your own photo's ? Bash the BCA/ Show breeders , Bash line breeding but use pictures of puppies that are a product of just that.

Your GBBA is nothing more the BS... in fact the dogs and ### SW started with are line bred. If you knew anything about Bulldogs and could research pedigrees you would know that!

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Cowboy
May 17, 2007 12:33 pm EDT

Hey Mike Fillmore from Jacksonville, Florida

Can you tell me what shows your bulldog won first place in and how many points does he have? I can research your dog and if he is registered to you so, please give us your dog's registered name and the show's he has won in.

As for Rick, he is a total fraud. He is nothing more than an importer and a con-artist. What he is doing is bringing in bulldogs from Hungary, Denmark or whatever other country and selling them off at what looks to me at 500- 600% profit. That is why those puppies are such poor quality and yes, there might be one out of many that by luck of the draw came out looking OK but, that is just luck not quality breeding.

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Sandra Martinez
May 17, 2007 1:21 pm EDT

I have been informed that a photo of mine is being illegally displayed on www.californiacoastbulldogs.com. I called and talked with the owner last night May 16. She claims she didn't know the photo was obtained illegally. Said she would talk with the webmaster to have it taken off. Action has not been taken as of May 17, 2007 1:30pst. I will pursue all action to have my photo removed from this site. And any other photo I have taken that I find is being used illegally.

Sandra Martinez
Gait Away Bulldography

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John
May 17, 2007 2:52 pm EDT

What does having an illegal pic on a bulldog site have to do with any of this?! I don't get it?!

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Terri
May 17, 2007 4:30 pm EDT

"Birds of a feather stick together"... I have always been told, ... also ..."once a thief always a thief" (not original but fitting)...be it a stolen picture taken from a professional photographer's site to use for ill gotten gains... to using pedigreed puppies of the Top winning AKC/BCA Bulldogs that these same sites spew such blatant contempt for... talk about speaking with a forked tongue... now back to the pictures of those wonderful Bulldog pups running on the beach, they are not of their breedings nor did they take the picture, sooo what is this theft for ? Humm... if not to exploit more unsuspecting souls with someone else's (who are BCA members by the way) line bred bulldog puppies which these very people profess to be so unhealthy, so they can sell their sickly pups? Makes you wonder doesn't it?

To tell you the truth all I see is the dollar signs running a muck... as well as the BCA Bulldog rescues having their hands full soon...

They, IMO, really have some nerve charging 3 times the price for those sick and deformed Bulldog puppies they get from some of those other "hungry" third world countries that they pick up for bulk prices, maybe 300 to 400 a pup... after shipping a impregnated ### to the States for whelping. One big old pyramid scheme if you ask me... boy I could go on and on but for now sign me... A BCA member in good standing...

Terri

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John
May 17, 2007 5:24 pm EDT

What does putting pics on a website have to do with line breeding? Just because a photo is put up doesn't mean they line breed? It's just pics of bulldogs, for crying out loud!

You are putting too much thought into this! All of you have nothing better to do than stay in these chats all day... VERY SAD! Go for a walk or something, would ya?!

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Terri
May 17, 2007 5:58 pm EDT

Sorry John,

But the very AKC/BCA Pups you guys are/have been putting down with your lies and innuendos, along with your newly formed "Breed Anything Until You Drop Genetic and Call It A Bulldog Club", are all in the very same... line bred Bulldogs that you guys are using to promote your sites with now... STRANGE HUH? So you see that Your Breeding Practices and statements have a lot to do with that stolen bully babies picture...

Terri

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Margie
May 17, 2007 6:11 pm EDT

Hypocrites!

Taken from the SW web site

I have spent far more on developing my dogs than you will ever comprehend. You can look all you want and my dogs are the best you will see on the Internet. My dogs are not boring and they have features that took years to breed into them. This is why YOU will not find dogs that come close to mine in physical appearance. When you finally decide to spend your hard earned money for a Bulldog I think you should get more than some genetic leftover CULL. I DO NOT SELL CULLS. You can actually get pick of the litter. I hate breeding but in order to really test genetically I must breed and there is always fruit from the breedings.

So now I ask you again if their dogs are so great WHY use pictures of the BCA members, the line bred dogs he spews his BS about? Hmm

Where's all these fine looking heinz 57 dogs he brags about?

Besides all that the photo is copy written !

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Pat Host
May 17, 2007 6:25 pm EDT

Some of you people really need a reality check. Hi-jacking copyrighted photos is illegal. To use them on your website to further your lies, is morally wrong, not to mention the illegal aspect. If Southwest Bulldogs is breeding and raising such wonderful bulldogs, why don't they use their own photos of their own dogs?

Just more lies and falsehoods perpetrated by Southwest bulldogs.

Pat

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Tommy Miller
May 17, 2007 7:23 pm EDT

Look here mike fillmore or matt johnston or which ever fraud you are just like I've told the other fakes that have came on here and tried to lie for that fraud rick and his whole BS gbba WHERES YOUR PROOF? I really wish all these fake comments would stop showing up because we have yet to see 1 person show some PROOF. If what rick has done is so great wheres the PROOF except for some free bulldogs he has given to celebrities that he probably bought from someone else and said that he breed. Every one that I have heard of has gotten sick and crazy looking bulldogs from the fraud rick. So what shows have you taken first place in mike post up your PROOF or go away because just like dan, cindy and now you there has been yet one of you fakes to provide proof. You have no credibility here and you are a LIAR that does not even know who I am. I am nobody in the bulldog world and I do not know any breeders here in the us much less am I best friends with any breeders here. As of matter of fact once that fraud rick ripped me off with my poor quality, unhealthy bulldog, WITH NO PAPERS that I could not even possibly think of showing or wouldn't dare breed to my female due to poor quality and no papers I searched and searched and finally found an honest breeder out of the us that had a true champion sire and a true show potential puppy that I got for way less than half of ricks outrageous over priced dogs. So if I was best friends with a breeder here I dont think I would of had to go outside the us to do this. So quit your lying matt I mean mike or who ever you are. And just like sandra stated if his dogs are so great why in the hell are they stealing pictures of other breeders to use for advertisement. You want to know why because he is a FRAUD and these poor people following him are not smart enough to figure out he is scamming them too.

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Tommy Miller
May 17, 2007 7:29 pm EDT

Hers is another satisfied client of that fraud rick johnston:

Rick Johnson at Southwest Bulldogs made up this whole scam about "genetic breeders" I paid $25,000 for my three dogs! They are UGLY! They do not even fit the Bulldog standard! People ask me where I got them and absolutely can't believe what I paid for them! I meet people at the park that paid $1800.00 for their puppy and they are twice as good looking as mine! Even the dog on Rob and Big has a REALLY SMALL HEAD just like all of his ugly dogs! He does NOT breed champions but claims on his site that he's a champion breeder!

I called the AKC. He has never, ever bred a champion or showed a dog! He's a complete liar! Look at his "facility" Look at the dog pool and grass! Now that I have Bulldogs, I realize that there's NO WAY that could be real! They would destroy a small area like that in five minutes flat! You don't know what it's like to be made a fool of for this type of money!

It would be fine if he sold his dogs (which are sub standard) for a backyard breeder price of $1500.00 to $1800.00 but for what he charges. how can he sleep at night? He's a liar and completely took advantage of me, knowing that I wanted to breed healthy, quality dogs. These are puppy mill dogs! All three have gotten cherry eye! ALL THREE! I don't think cherry eye is that big of a deal but when I signed up for this, I was ASSURED that these would be PERFECT!

All three of my dogs have pin heads! They don't even look like Bulldogs! So what makes his dogs worth THIS KIND OF MONEY NOTHING! Ive written the IRS with my receipts of what I've paid. My guess is that anyone this dishonest with buyers is just as dishonest with their taxes!

This guy's stud fee is INCREDIBLE! Who on earth does he think he is? Don't GET FOOLED BY THIS CROOK! His whole family is in on this scam! They are money hungry, greedy thieves that are living the high life on their dogs and yet can't even be bothered to invest in good quality dogs or show them to prove they are at least UP TO STANDARD!

Hey, Rick before you continue making your living by slamming ALL OF THE OTHER BREEDERS In AMERICA. why don't you take a good look in the mirror and START WITH YOURSELF! Look at what you are teaching your children! You teach them to lie and downright steal from hard working people! YOU NEED TO GET OUT OF BULLDOGS! You're nothing but a VERY, VERY, VERY expensive PUPPYMILL! I've talked to sooo many LEGITIMATE breeders (you know, the ones that you slam) and you are the JOKE of the Bulldog community! Specifically, you are the JOKE of the BULLDOGWORLD! OH! The things that I wish I had known before wasting my money on you and trusting you!

BEWARE TO OTHERS! RUN FROM THIS CROOK!

Nancy
Long Beach, California
U.S.A.

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John
May 17, 2007 8:59 pm EDT

TOMMY,

It's so funny how YOU posted a complaint first on that website, and then "NANCY FROM LONG BEACH, CA" posts a complaint 3 hrs. later? HMMM... Very weird? I think you are saying you are a lot of people with complaints? You are probably giving all these fake name and complaints, and it's ALL YOU! VERY STRANGE? Who's the Liar now?!

You didn't find her complaint on that website! You wrote yours, and the wrote "NANCY FROM LONG BEACH!"