I signed up with The Tax Club over 6 months ago and I have YET to see them make good on anything they said they were going to do!! In our phone consultation, I was told that all I had to do was pay the initial fee of ($4500) and I would be able to get my business off the ground. MOMENTS after my phone consultation, the money was taken right off my credit card. They just couldn’t wait to start ripping me off!!
I started receiving calls from them nonstop, always asking for more money. I’m a single mother and with this economy, that initial fee was hard to come by. Now they need more money for bookkeeping, payroll and lots more. I didn’t need many of these services as it’s just me but they told me that my business was doomed to fail if I didn’t get them. So I did. Each time I received a charge from them, it showed up as something totally different. The first charge was Manhattan Professional Group then it was All Access Books and Business Document Center and after the last call it was Vital Payroll, Inc. Why did they charge me under different names? A legitimate company, one that provides the services that it claims to, charges under the same name. For all I know Billy Joe Bob in Tumbleweed, Arkansas is getting my money.
I’ve called them on numerous occasions and every time getting a different answer. I have been told that a supervisor would contact me and I have yet to hear from him. I’m starting to think this person doesn’t even exist. Who does business like this?
($17, 400) later, I am now on food stamps, facing a potential bankruptcy and God knows what else all because I trusted these people and they didn’t hold true to their word. The Tax Club (Manhattan Professional Group, All Access Books and Business Document Center or Vital Payroll, Inc. whatever they want to call themselves) hasn’t done anything but take food from my children’s mouths. I can’t feed them with empty promises! The worst business decision I have ever made was to get into bed with these crooks. I was struggling then and now I’m worse!! I’ve had to change my number several times because creditors keep calling for money and thanks to The Tax Club, I CANT PAY THEM! I thought the feeling of being ripped off from The Tax Club was bad. Try having to send your children to school with clothes too small because you didn’t have the money to buy them new school clothes. Or the pressure of making the little bit of money I get from food stamps stretch all month so my kids don’t go hungry. This is no way to live.
I contacted my attorney on the steps that I needed to take in order to get my money reimbursed and he referred me to another law firm that better deals with companies like The Tax Club, whose sole purpose seems to be to bankrupt unsuspecting people like myself. I spoke with Richard at [protected]. He was really helpful and considerate of my situation, which is a lot more than I received from the “consultants” at The Tax Club. I did not have to pay anything upfront like The Tax Club, which gave me peace of mind. I couldn’t afford to get ripped off again. I was required to follow up with him a lot more than I had hoped for but all and all, it has been a success. I got my money and I’m just going to do the steps of opening my business the BEST way…and that’s WITHOUT The Tax Club.
So, to sum up everything...
Feeling like you can’t provide for your children…CHECK
All thanks to the one and only The Tax Club, I mean Vital Payroll, Inc. Whoops! The Manhattan Professional Group. Oh, I’m sorry they have so many names :/
But after speaking with Richard….
Getting my money back and sticking it to The Tax Club ….PRICELESS!!!
If you are thinking about signing up with this company, PLEASE DO NOT. They are a bunch of fast talking frauds that are trying to sell you a completely over priced product. The worst part is it never ends Every call you get from them is for more money, thousands.The only thing this company will do is financially ruin you. JUST SAY NO!!!
They claimed to be partners with Applied Knowledge Institute and two guys put a hard sell on for two days and when I finally disagreed with them, they took money off my credit card without my permission. I didn't find out until I got the bill from Capitol One. In one day they took out $1000, $1000, $1000, and $500!! For a total of $3500 on my credit card. I've gotten no product, and no refund. They hurt me bad and I can't afford to pay my credit card. Thier lack of good business practices has cost me plenty. I have no job and no income at all and they refuse to work with me.
I too was scammed by the Tax Club. I complained to the BBB in New York, and they stransfered the complaint to the BBB in Utah. I finally got a 50% refund, I think I should have got more, like 80% because they really did nothing for me. The Utah BBB helped me out to get he refund that I did get. They were a big help as I live in Canada and didn't have the resources that I needed to fight with a USA company. I agree with everyone that this organization should be shut down, and I am sure they are associated with Fortune Learning Systems, that is how they got ahold of me, becuase I was stupid enought to sign up with FLS. Also you have to complain to everyone you can think of. The [redacted] maybe will get you an answer from the Tax Club, but they side with the Tax Club, nevertheless The Tax Club don not like to have a BBB complaint against them.(It makes them look bad) imagine that!!!
After a brief relationship with this company I am forced to file for bankruptcy. I knew what I was doing...
Was connected to The Tax Club through PMI through StoresOnline (all Utah Corporations). Cancelled my membership within the 3 day period allowed but was told someone would call me back since I was at work. Had refused the startup materials shipped by FedEx so when they called & talked about moving ahead and moving forward, I didn't really care when they wanted to send the startup materials out again. Refused delivery again and they claimed that they had recovered me as a customer and I was outside of the 3 day window. I filed a complaint with the Utah BBB and started one with the Utah AG-consumer protection division. Called them back about the refund and was kept waiting and shunted to nonexistent extensions. Just as the Utah BBB closed the window on my complaint without my accepting it, they left a voicemail that they were crediting my card for the full amount. I found this out after I had mailed the credit card company information so they could reverse the charge. Lucky there but am still hooked up with PMI and Stores Online. Should have googled The Tax Club complaints first not last.
I first signed up with PMI to start an Internet Business(I would not recommed them either..I think its all a Big Scam!!). Then I was contacted by The Tax Club and they set up some "business meetings". Each business meeting was to get me to sign up for another "so called service" that The Tax Club provided.
At first they talked me into Incorporating to protect the assets I do not have and to reap the "330 tax breaks" I can get as a corp. Then I needed The Tax Club Tax Accounting Services for a one time fee of$3890(and this is the discounted rate) and after 4 months I will pay 49.99 a month for unlimited tax consultations and they would take care of all the paperwork I needed to keep my Corp "Compliant" as they "were knowledgeable in tax law and code in all 50 States". Then the next week I had another "business meeting". This time they convinced me I need the Bookepping Services..I told them I couldnt afford it, didnt want it and spent a coulpe hours on the phone..they wore me down . This cost a one time fee of 1495 and 29.99 after 9 months(and again this was the "discounted rate")...the next week I needed to have the "Business Credit Builder Plan"..I held them off for months..but they keep calling..they wanted 5000 or so for this..some how they down graded me to a "Business Plan Package"..i signed up for it 1795, then came to my sences and cancelled but since it hadnt been cancelled in the 3 day period they still are keeping 15% of the 1795 dollars. And as for the $5500 the sucked out of me..they inform me I cannot get a full refund because of "Services I Have Received"..Seriously???..All Ive got from The Tax Club and PMI is a Big Pain In My ###!!! And no services what so ever! Theres more but Im getting so angry I cant type anymore!! This has cost me soo much money to incorporate to dissolve the corporation..my state has a minimum corporate tax that you have to pay no matter what(and they never told me this) and now Im trying to decided how to file forms with my state and the IRS in order to be compliant with these entities. Even though I have made no money spent alot of money and have already dissolved my Corp, with no help or guidance from "The Professionals at the Tax Club".
They are Scam artist and should be in jail or sued. I have received no services from them yet they have take about 5, 500 dollars..Im probably going to have to file bankruptcy. Between PmI and The Tax Club.my Spirit has been broken..I thought I was smarter than this but they take newbies who are naive and want to do something positive and make a change in their lives and they suck everything they can out of you!!! Run as fast as you can!!!
Please go to You Tube ansd post to The Tax Club Videos and expose these scam artists for what they are. You will see my post as Jaamman..join me..[protected]@hotmail.com.
Dont make my mistake.
The Tax Club received my name from PMI Education of Utah. They explained to my husband and I that we needed their accounting service for a new business that we are just starting. Then Bookkeeping dept called telling us that we could not run a successful business without teaching us how to keep books. We had 2 more appointments, which by this time we realized were both going to tell us that we needed their services too. So we called to get a refund and no answer, we left voice mail and never received a return call. When we sent an email to the person who first sold us on the tax club, the email he gave us did not go through. Finally when we were able to contact them, we were told the 15 days for a refund was passed and we could not get any money back. We have dissolved our business that the tax club was to handle, but they will not refund our money, even though we no longer have a company to do taxes for. What a scam of a company they are.
It all got started back in early 2008 when I applied to a work from home business doing home rebates, then I started getting phone calls from all kinds of home business opportunities and the Tax Club being one of them they offered various programs for my busieness to be very succesful of course for a price and were very eager that I use my credit cards for payment of these services, they said not to worry that I would get every cent back from the Goverment when filing my business 2008 taxes I was very excided and dumb at the same time that I gave in and all kinds of phone calls started coming in with all kinds of appointments and my credit card debts all topped out and the rest is history I will make an official complaint to The Arizona Attorneys Gen.office for further advise and hopefully investigation and settlement for everybody involved of this scam...Jesse T.
I joined the Tax Club via Online Hosting Services both are just as bad as each other. The tax Club advised me that they were part of the OHS and told me that i needed to set up a US Company. I Obliged as not knowing the US tax laws and set up company(hope its legal) and like so many started to receive calls to do this and that all of which was going to cost more and more money.
I advised them not to do any more sales calls which they stopped along with all the other services I had signed up for so really they are the biggest scam artists around and should be stopped.
I have now started action via my Credit card supplier to get my money back from the Tax Club for Fraudulant dealings .
Check with your Credit Card provider and see if you can lodge a claim for refund of moneys. the more that start this type of action will cause hopefully the demise of this scam.
I initially signed up with The Tax Club based on an ad I saw at LegalZoom.com. I paid an initial one-time $1500 payment plus $20/month. After I signed up, they said that they wanted to schedule phone calls with me to discuss my tax planning. I assumed this was to help with preparation of my tax records for the preparation of my tax return. It turned out that every call (there were about 6 calls scheduled) were to sell additional cost services to me. Plus the sales approach was combative. Regardless, The Tax Club did prepare my 2008 tax return to my satisfaction. I received a call today (12/30/09) that was to discuss the status of preparing my 2009 tax return. I found out that I was going to have to spend an additional $850 to have the 2009 tax return prepared even though I had paid the initial $1500 fee plus I had been paying the monthly $20 fee that I thought was to go towards the preparation of my current year tax return. It turns out the $20/mth fee was only for access to tax consultants. So I cancelled my account. I can prepare my own business/personal tax return at much lower cost using TurboTax's business/home tax software. The Tax Club is a ripoff.
I first enlisted the services of the Tax Club in order to facilitate the somewhat complicated process of incorporating a business for a first time business owner. After reading much of these complaints on this Tax Club I decided that the best decision for myself and my business would be to cancel their monthly service. I first started searching on their non-user friendly website for customer support links or contact info and unsuccessfully submitted inquiries about canceling through their Q&A box which, oddly enough, does not work. I replied to an email that I received from them when I had first signed on to their service and got a reply with their phone number to cancel.
The phone conversation I had with the so-called "cancellation department", which appeared to be more like that of a car salesman trying to convince the customer to buy from him instead of the competition, was very interesting. A woman answered my call and I explained to her that I wished to cancel my membership with them as I've found services here locally in my hometown to be much more convenient. I was told "no problem" and put on hold twice, the second hold was what seemed to be 5 minutes. During the hold, I briefly heard a voice, like as if someone had their hand over the receiver and it had slipped off inadvertently. A short time later, a man comes on the phone saying, "cancellation department", as if she had "transferred" my call, and proceeded to throw his sales pitch at me saying things like I've paid this much amount of money already and canceling my membership is a very bad idea on my part. I told him the same story I told the woman to which he replied, "I understand, " but still try to come up with more and more reasons as to why he thinks I should stay with their service, to which he was becoming more aggressive in his tone.
First of all, I am not the type to become intimidated by the likes of these services and/or sales reps so his aggression in his responses only helped to solidify these complaints against this company. Secondly, and what was the original nature of the call, I had originally agreed to the $10/month fee for the unlimited consultation with an advisor, but wanted to cancel. It was then that all this talk about money I spent and paperwork processed, etc, etc, came up. Personally, I think that's what made him to be upset. The only other service I paid for was to have the Tax Club handle the paperwork in order to have my business established with the IRS and in my state, ($1800). I'm unaware of "normal costs" for these types of services so I didn't think it to be out of the ordinary. Also, being that it is in the name of my business, it should be tax deductible, so that was the deciding factor for going through with them.
I understand that a business will try certain "sales pitches" in order keep their customer, however, I feel that if a person no longer wishes to use a service reason given or not, that business shouldn't give them any hassle. Obviously they don't want to use it anymore because they're calling the number and requesting to cancel, enough said. I don't believe the Tax Club to be a scam, as the service I paid for was completed. I just felt uneasy being that this company is over 6, 000 miles away, and that a local tax prep service would be of better interest for my company. Too bad their customer support wasn't as understanding as they portrayed to be.
My Girlfriend signed up for the service for me as a gift (near christmas 08). (December 11th 2017) She told...
Right after I create a new business entity from "Legalzoom.com" I received a call from Steve Frank - A sales team member from thetaxclub.com xtn. 4364
I was promised help planning & preparing tax for my start-up by Steve Frank (Sales person). Also in the list of promises were 1. Payroll Assistance 2. Business Plan 3. Marketing Plan 4. Business Loan assistance 5. Book Keeping. I paid huge upfront fees and became a member.
Since then, I have to chase "Tax Club" just to make an appointment to have a phone chat with an accountant. What I was promised was a Face-to-Face meeting with an accountant on a monthly basis and review my tax plans, book keeping etc.
There were also free consultation calls (annoying) scheduled every Tuesday for coaching on the above promised services. The free consultation calls were not consultation calls at all, before the caller would hear about my business, they were just eager to sell the "ABOVE & OTHER SERVICES" from Tax Club for additional fee.
This is the WORST SERVICE I have encountered. Now I am in the hole for a large pile of money and can't get any decent service. This was a good lesson learn't for me, I will go back to my local CPA, and you all please do the same.
We were steered to the tax club through Stores Online to set up our on line business as a Corp. They set you up with a series of appointments which we were led to beleive would be tax related. They were all sales calls for various services provided under the company called The Manhattan Professiaonal Group. During the third phone call to sell services we declined because we could not afford anymore services. They used fraudulent statements to convince us how we would be able to pay for the services through our tax return refunds. So we purchsed the other services offered.
The first return they did for us had us owing a large amount the second try was a little better. We finally took it to a local firm and they doubled our refund.
The Tax Clubs representative Naressa Ourderk admitted the false statements were made but when the BBB asked for a copy of it and the policy that supposedly protected the company from having to give refunds they conveniently couldn't locate the call transcripts.
We have received less than half the funds we paid them. Do to fraud nd poor services we feel we should be given a full refund.
This seems to be a very common thread with all the postings, but I wanted to do my part to help you out. This is to avoid the money lost and headache that we had to go through. Please avoid this company! Here is our story:
They were not up front about all the costs. I paid $1500 and they said that it would cost me $30/mo and $37 filing fee at the start of each year and a tax filing for both me and my business partner. When we got it started, they dropped it on us that it costs $895 a year to renew. Plus only one personal tax return was given a year, not two.
When we asked to cancel we were told there is a %15 penalty for services rendered when there was no service done for us at all. Also, every single "tax consultant" that we spoke to was VERY impersonal and we wanted a "tax team" like we were promised.
When trying to get a hold of the person that sold me, he never answered nor did he return any phone calls. I had to threaten a lawsuit, just to get anybody that could fix our problem...Guess what, still not fixed.
Please ask about how much it costs to renew and about services included with the huge upfront cost. They misrepresented themselves to get quick money out of two honest individuals.
Go with a local tax advisor that you can trust. We are and a whole lot happier too.
Stores Online (SOL), Professional Marketing International (PMI), The Tax Club Scam
Like many out there I fell into the trap set by this trio of high pressure selling, let's get the newbie companies.
OK, I admit it, I was gullible and I knew nothing about Internet Marketing when SOL came calling in my town (Australia) in March 07. I bought 6 websites (US$ 3535), quick sign here, where is your credit card, by the way you need this as well and this, blah blah blah; you got 3 business days to make up your mind.
I was never asked what I was going to sell or advised whether my product (niche) was suitable or had profit potential
I was never told the truth about what hidden traps (like the Tax Club) were waiting down the road or what is truly needed to trade online in the US (or so they say).
When I did not activate any of my sites due to unexpected work commitments, they had sales people call a few times to coax me into using their services for more money (I don't blame them for that).
But in October 2008 SOL passed my details on to PMI and after more high pressure phone calls I relented again (!) and signed up for 5 live training shows (including building my website and helping me advertise it) with some of their specialists (US$ 4645). I asked for the first show to be scheduled for Nov 26 as I was busy with other stuff till then. When the time came for LIVE training I could not access it because their toll-free number is not valid where I am. In the end we settled that I should do the pre-recorded version which they said was the same. Strangely enough the girl on live chat could neither find my account nor the 5 live calls I scheduled during their first call in October at first.
During this time, on Nov 6, I had already been approached by The Tax Club (TTC). I'm assuming my details were passed on by either SOL or PMI. The Tax Club turned out to be the worst as far as pressure selling and being secretive about cost is concerned. They told me that I could not run a drop-shipping Internet business in the USA without starting an LLC with business name, EIN number, bank accounts and credit card. I had given PMI $4645 which now seemed useless unless I agreed to join The Tax Club for US$ 3890. This included $1195 for the business name and EIN number (this can be done for free online) and looking after my tax.
On Nov 26, the same day my first PMI live session got messed up, I had my 2nd call from TTC and the motor-mouth sales person had the hide to ask me for another $8000+ for business graphics and getting my website all finished and launched real fast before Xmas (he must have known that I had already paid PMI for doing that). I declined. One week later he asked for $1700+ for setting up a bank account with credit card and never having to worry about another thing. I declined again.
By now I was so cheesed off, confused and disillusioned that I canceled my membership with PMI and TTC.
I never bothered to take my second training call from PMI.
The Tax Club's letter of engagement states that if cancellation occurs within 30 day of the initial transaction, they will keep a 15% processing fee and retail price of services rendered. I returned all their documentation unused to their NY address and I figure that, considering the whole mess, they owe me at least $1600, yet they have determined my account to be eligible for a refund (nice Hey!).
PMI have emailed me that I will be contacted by phone to discuss my cancellation. I've asked for a refund of $4000 since I only got to course 1 (with difficulty and not as promised) and all the "hard" work for them, like setting up the site and advertising it, never got done. So far, no call.
SOL is ignoring my long detailed email. All they are doing is telling me that selling my 6 sites is not recommended. I still have access to them.
PMI & TTC have stopped me accessing their sites.
I'm sure that there are many people out there who have benefitted from these 3 companies. Their sites are well set up, they have 24/7 support and all the trimmings but they are unscrupulous, prey on the gullible internet marketing beginner with false pictures of easy success stories and don't tell the real truth about all the cost involved. Outside the US it is almost impossible to talk to somebody in person. Their online chat and email communication is not what one needs when discussing problems like the ones detailed above.
My advice: STAY AWAY FROM THESE 3 COMPANIES UNLESS YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING!
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The tax Club located on the 60th floor in the Empire State Building is a complete scam. If you go on...
The worst business decision I ever made. From my experience, they are a frustrating, no service organization (I use "organization" with reservation).
After signing, I received calls to set appointments, supposedly with the tax club staff to review business tax issues. Not so, the calls were sales calls selling additional services; book keeping, deduction services, business plans, etc. And in the end you do all the work and they only file.
Their "customer service" number produced nothing but aggravation, no accountant, and nothing resembling an intelligent response to questions.
My advice, stay away from the tax Club, find a local accountant you can sit with, look in the eye and who knows taxes.