yeah. after reading the complaints i want to see the ad. sounds hilarious.
this may be strange to you, but i am a straight person capable of empathy. The only one capable of judging the sin that you took it upon yourself to judge is your "god"
while i dont wish to get into any arguments pertaining to "existence of mythical creatures, " i would appreciate if you abide by your own rules. your morality is not the yardstick by which i or any of my friends should choose to measure themselves by.
maybe my friends interpreted the bible differently than you. maybe they feel that the salvation mentioned in the roman road is exactly what it seems. one guaranteed to murderers, idolators, gluttons, and fornicators who are willing to believe the story. simply stated, the verses in the roman road state that all sins are forgiven simply by believing in christ. having had these verses drilled into me in bible school, i am fairly confident of the veracity. granted, i did not read the original arameac as im sure you have. since you are so certain your version is the unvarnished word of god im sure you must have read that.
the androgenous comment was merely referring to the fact that it is impossible to judge from your posts or your name which gender you were/are. indeed, it is virtually impossible to determine you are human at all.
congratulations Taylor. you officially have "that guy" on your team.
so basically, its an argument that is impenetrable to logic, because as long as i dont believe i cant possibly be right... its really amazing how your test for your religion allows it to pass when it so clearly fails.
i understand you fear a true death and so you choose to believe that a supernatural being fake died for you. that is all that awaits you. i have accepted this, and i have no fear of death, and i will strive to be the best i can be in regards to myself. occasionally i will try to liberate those who are controlled by centuries of tradition and foolishness, but it isnt so easy.
this is why christianity in general puts me off. FSMism forever
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the last one is my favorite^_^
dont feel too bad mike. all those people in favor of the site are clearly one person with incredibly poor grammar. they make the same unusual spelling and grammatical mistake in nearly every post. suffice it to say, it is either a non-native speaker of english, or a high school drop out.
if telemarketers continue to call your house and you are on the federal do not call list you can press charges against them as a company. you must be sure to keep records of the calls when they are received, and if possible, ask your phone company for a call summary.
Telemarketing scam companies like this need to be destroyed, and the best way to do it is one person at a time.
the abysmal grammar continues. thanks again barb.
Something i have found to be generally true about converted christians is this: before converting they were afraid. not just afraid of death, but afraid of all the things they couldn't understand. to me, forsaking science, truth, and logic in taking an easy escape is beyond absurd. religion is the antithesis of human experience, and those who devote their entire lives to the book are no better than harry potter fans who cant accept that wizards aren't real. just because it makes you happy doesn't mean it is right. there are some difficult things in life we all must face, and hiding behind a book does NOT make them go away.
"we are both atheists for most of the worlds religions. understand why you don't believe in all the others, and you will know why i don't believe in yours"
You just reaffirmed everything I stated before. when an argument for religion fails any sort of litmus test a person becomes a fool for even disagreeing in the first place.
To say that science generally fails is to show a complete lack of understanding of the fundamental functions of this world. science, unlike religion, is accepted as a growing body of knowledge. people approach an idea with a considered hypothesis, and test it. they test it until they can think of no more tests to perform, and at that point they still dont accept it to be true. they call it a theory.
Religion is approached from an opposite standpoint. one goes into a religion with no logical reason for belief, objects to any tests to the validity of the religion, and should that test show a religion to most likely be incorrect, it is largely ignored (except by those of other denominations).
P. s. unlike science, logic is as unchanging as mathematics (the basis of science).
Unlike logic, "the word of god" is constantly manipulated by people in power to reflect the social desires of the most powerful politicians.
"all thinking men are atheists."
-ernest hemmingway:
"and the day will come when the mystical generation of jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of minerve in the brain of jupiter."
-thomas jefferson,
"creationists make it sound like a 'theory' is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night."
- isaac asimov
"I am treated as evil by people who claim that they are being oppressed because they are not allowed to force me to practice what they do."
-d. dale gulledge
"atheism is a requirement for a complete human being. religion is a crutch that is shackled to you, one you never really needed in the first place, but were convinced by others that you couldn't live without. once you discover it's only an illusion, that it's not even a real crutch, you discard it gladly."
-brent yaciw
It is more along the lines of: a preposterous indefensible story knew there would be objectors, so there is a built in fall back to keep all the ignorant sheep happy.
Its incredibly amusing when the only defense of something is the fact that someone knew that it would be hard to believe.
it is apparent that no amount of evidence3 could possibly dissuade you from your views. you deserve the disappointment that awaits you after death. that is a cold sterile nothingness that awaits us all. while it is something you can clearly not come to grips with, science is the true way of man and wisdom, and if there were any god in the universe he could only become such through empirical knowledge. the idea that you choose to justify a faith purely on the basis that someone expected it to be ridiculed is what i mocked, and seeing that you are incapable of recognizing wisdom i will leave this complaints board to you and your intolerance.
you cling to ignorance like it is some sort of honor, causing me and the collective human race shame. i hope that someday you will see that a belief is not intrinsically true because others have believed it for centuries, and for that matter a belief is not dis-proven because others believed it to be false for an equally admirable amount of time. this time merely shall represent the ordeals of man as posited by the higher political power that is the church. they are not necessarily wrong, but believing that someone is right just because the punishment of being wrong in their eyes is most dire is most assuredly absurd.
i encourage you t grow out of the bonds of your oppressive religion and begin to question things for the first time in your life. while you have clearly learned to listen to the lessons taught by your superiors you have yet to learn to accept the ideas of your equals as relevant, and for that matter you have no concept of socratic self evaluation. examine yourself thoroughly through the opus of your own deeds. rely not on jesus or any of your other idol, but strictly examine the deeds of your life and base your worth as a human being on that. dont depend on the church to tell you you are a good person because you follow their scripture. follow your own scripture, and accept your own humanity for the first time in your life.
there will be no further replies on my behalf. any acceptance of victory on your behalf will be an admission of illiteracy.
he gave up visitation rights on his own by not patying. if he doesnt even put food in his daughters mouth what right does he have to claim he as anything except his genetic material. he left the country to escape his responsibilities and should not immediately be given those rights just because he was in the army. there are [censored]bags in every niche of society, including the occasional grunt, and people like you who think someone is a ### because she wants what is best for her daughter..
As far as I can tell, you are nothing more than a hate filled bigot who chooses religion to back up a preconceived notion of the world.
You have argued that logic is pointless because I pointed out how any rational system of logic would lead one to conclude there is no god.
You argued that science is inconclusive because it is always changing, simply because I stated rational science inevitably disproves religious ideas. (such as the earth being the center of the universe and only 6000 years old)
Your problem appears to be the common thread between the two. rationality is lacking in all of your arguments. there is no rationale behind hate, as there is no rationale behind your idea of god.
Additionally you preach with two faces. you claim to represent the loving and forgiving god of the new testament, yet your bigotry is pure old testament.
Stop emailing me. I have already lumped you in with the west-borough baptist churchgoers, and if you honestly believe you are different you are delusional.
p.s.
you can hardly call it a debate, as you haven't once changed your argument. you keep using the exact same discredited evidence which gets weaker every time.
The filth that will corrupt your child's mind has already been placed. it is the hate filled word of your "god"
We dont teach homosexuality, we teach tolerance. earlier I meant to put parenthesis around the word your, because I was implying it was your own twisted view of god that I find so disgusting.
It always amuses me to see how those who claim to know what god wants can so closely tie it into what they want.
In the word of gandhi, "I like your christ, I do not like your christians. your christians are so unlike your christ."
What about sterile men and women? are their heterosexual acts just as disgusting to you because that in no way could produce children? you used an argument that takes only human supposition into account. by the logic and laws you forward both acts are immoral.
Also wondering, which of gods laws do you really follow? do you stick with these too, or is it that you just follow the laws that make it convenient to hate?
Deuteronomy 14:21 (new international version)
New international version (niv)
21 do not eat anything you find already dead. you may give it to an alien living in any of your towns, and he may eat it, or you may sell it to a foreigner. but you are a people holy to the lord your god.
Leviticus 14:33-56 (new international version)
New international version (niv)
Cleansing from mildew
33 the lord said to moses and aaron, 34 "when you enter the land of canaan, which I am giving you as your possession, and I put a spreading mildew in a house in that land, 35 the owner of the house must go and tell the priest, 'I have seen something that looks like mildew in my house.' 36 the priest is to order the house to be emptied before he goes in to examine the mildew, so that nothing in the house will be pronounced unclean. after this the priest is to go in and inspect the house. 37 he is to examine the mildew on the walls, and if it has greenish or reddish depressions that appear to be deeper than the surface of the wall, 38 the priest shall go out the doorway of the house and close it up for seven days. 39 on the seventh day the priest shall return to inspect the house. if the mildew has spread on the walls, 40 he is to order that the contaminated stones be torn out and thrown into an unclean place outside the town. 41 he must have all the inside walls of the house scraped and the material that is scraped off dumped into an unclean place outside the town. 42 then they are to take other stones to replace these and take new clay and plaster the house.
43"if the mildew reappears in the house after the stones have been torn out and the house scraped and plastered, 44 the priest is to go and examine it and, if the mildew has spread in the house, it is a destructive mildew; the house is unclean. 45 it must be torn down — its stones, timbers and all the plaster — and taken out of the town to an unclean place.
46 "anyone who goes into the house while it is closed up will be unclean till evening. 47 anyone who sleeps or eats in the house must wash his clothes.
48"but if the priest comes to examine it and the mildew has not spread after the house has been plastered, he shall pronounce the house clean, because the mildew is gone. 49 to purify the house he is to take two birds and some cedar wood, scarlet yarn and hyssop. 50 he shall kill one of the birds over fresh water in a clay pot. 51 then he is to take the cedar wood, the hyssop, the scarlet yarn and the live bird, dip them into the blood of the dead bird and the fresh water, and sprinkle the house seven times. 52 he shall purify the house with the bird's blood, the fresh water, the live bird, the cedar wood, the hyssop and the scarlet yarn. 53 then he is to release the live bird in the open fields outside the town.in this way he will make atonement for the house, and it will be clean."
54 these are the regulations for any infectious skin disease, for an itch, 55 for mildew in clothing or in a house, 56 and for a swelling, a rash or a bright spot,
Additionally, there are more bible laws showing the true superstition and cruelty of your religions founders
Leviticus 25:44 'as for your male and female slaves whom you may have — you may acquire male and female slaves from the pagan nations that are around you.
Exodus 35:2 six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the lord: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.
Lev. 11:10 and all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:
That one even uses abomination just like the one regarding homosexuality^_^
Lev. 19:27 you shall not round off the side-growth of your heads nor harm the edges of your beard.
Lev.19:19 ye shall keep my statutes. thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee
So once again, there is the verse that says you cant wear you normal clothes. funnily enough, the advice in this is actually counter-intuitive. crop rotation provides greater harvests.
I look forward to you proving why god only hates those you hate. I think if god is # spiteful as you would postulate, then he hates you as much as me^_^
Btw. there is a lot of counter-bible evidence that is not contained in the bible also, but it seems like you reject true wisdom in lieu of"faith"
sex change is not the same as sterility. by definition, if someone is sterile they cant have a baby.
you still didn't address the incongruity between you forcing the morality of certain scriptures on people while you yourself dont follow all of the laws provided by your god.
i read the bible in its entirety when i was a child. being young and naive i believed it at the time. however i have since learned all things must be taken with a grain of salt, particularly those beliefs espoused by fools without a shred of truth behind them.
you can not consider the belief that something is true to be the same as proof. the bible has no inherent veracity. the bible is not acceptable proof for anything for this reason!
the commercial was about improved confidence. if you are too dense to get that you should give up on tv viewing in general.
memory doesnt mean hdd memory. they meant ram memory. silly people shoulda just sold you a video card which would potentially have stopped the program crashes... (unless your processor sucks)
pathetic complaint by someone who doesnt seem to know the definition of deposit. although it can mean partial payment, 3/3 its part and yet entirety. in this case you were clearly informed that the portion that compromised the deposit was the entire payment. i could only hope that you were charged a damage deposit as well just to add insult to stupidity
the truth is you get points for any reservation that you make through holiday inn itself unless it has an employee discount, a friends and family discount, travel agent discount, or you are using points. if you book from a third party, YOU WILL NOT RECEIVE POINTS. since the advance purchase is usually the same rate you find on annoying sites like hotels.com or their ilk, it is a safe bet tyo always go with direct reservations.
should stay with holiday inn
this is clearly a scam. you have people deposit forged money orders into their accounts and then transfer x amount of dollars to your account. two weeks later the bank discovers the forgery and you are long gone while the idiot who fell for it is out all that money.
SCAMMER!
