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She told us that we had the pick of the litter male and then the day before he shipped told me he had one testicle undescended but if we wanted to show him or breed him our vet could do laparoscopic surgery to bring it down and then we could breed and show him. Our vet told us that could not be done - undescended testicles are genetic and he could not be bred or showed. We got him and took him to the vet the next day and he also had base narrow canine so his bottom teeth were growing into the top of his mouth. She refused to let our vet pull his puppy teeth or pay for future treatment so took him back, had his teeth pulled and resold him. She accused us of feeding him too much protein and that is why he had base narrow canine but we fed the food she sent with him and we only had him one day in which time he wasn't even eating.
We were to get second pick male from her next litter and when they were about 4 wks old she told us that she might just push everyone back and take the pick of the litter herself - which she did. She kept the puppy we wanted. The day before the new puppy shipped out she told us he was a "little shy" and that her trainer said our 1.5 year old twin boys would be good for him. She also said he was the pick of the litter and we had to pay an extra $700 and upgrade him to full AKC registration because she wanted three sperm collections from him. We got the puppy and he was terrified of people and not socialized at all. He also had coccidia. We've spent over $1000 in training. Our trainers and vet highly recommend we don't breed him. She refuses to reimburse us the $700 and accuses us of not being able to handle him and not spending time working with him. We went to what we thought was a good breeder so we could get a puppy that was a clean slate and have a mentally and physically healthy dog and we might as well have gotten a rescue dog. The whole reason we spent all the money we did was to get a sound dog and what we have is a dog with behavior issues. We will never give him back and love him but be very wary of this breeder. She is in it for the money.
Dane Lover -
I am not trashing Mona to get my money back. I am glad that your puppy is so great and you are lucky. Every word I wrote is true and I am warning other people not to be as stupid as I was and trust a breeder without doing extremely thorough research first. My puppy has had numerous issues but his behavior is NOT that of a normal puppy. This is not my first dog or my first Dane so I know normal behavior. He has come a long way with a lot of training and help from a trainer. Mona told me the day before he shipped out that he was shy and that was the first she had ever mentioned it. Shy is one thing. A terrified puppy is another. We thought it was just from shipping first but it went on for months. I am glad you can show your dog but mine would never let a judge put a hand on him and would be terrified to go into a ring at all. I would never do that to him.
And by the way, I had the first puppy for two days. Two. I fed him Nature's Variety the whole time and that was it - and he was not eating. I never even went through the bag of food that came with him because he was eating so little. I never gave him raw bones or anything of the sort so please don't accuse me of feeding him a diet too high in protein. My guess is that the problem was created by Mona giving him Natures Variety plus bones and raw meat. I don't know, though, I am not a dental expert. All I know is that it was not a problem caused by me giving him too much protein. That is ridiculous. Also, having his puppy teeth pulled by my vet would have been way less stressful for the poor puppy and cheaper than flying him back and forth would have been. I didn't care about his testicle not being descended but did care that she waited to tell me until his flight was booked etc and then told me that I could have it pulled down surgically and then show him and breed him. That is unethical!
I hope that your dog has a long healthy and problem -free life. I love my puppy and would never give him back for the world but like I said, I was stupid for not researching the breeder more and am trying to warn other people to do thorough research before buying.
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I bought two Great Danes from Mona on her second to last litter. Bruce and Breena. So far have had no issues with either dogs besides Mona not providing the Registration Papers for either of them, which I did pay for. We did eventually spay our female cause what good is a registered puppy if you don't have the papers to prove that she is?
I have been a friend of Mona's for years. I know she's going thru some hard times but when you sell puppies with registration... give them the registration papers, not hold on to them and tell them that you will mail them later, when you are at the house to pick the puppies up, in person.
I love both of my pups dearly. Would not trade them for the world.
I see that she took her website down. I am happy to see she has stopped for now. I am one of those uneducated buyers from Mona. My pup turns one year today. She is beautiful but has had severe acne since the day we got her. She failed to disclose it had been a problem and was noted by her vet. She also never provided us her papers and changed her number next time we tried to call. We had our girl fixed, no breeding though we have been told she is show quality. She has also had a serious fear problem since day one. She has lied to us as well. If she resurfaces, buyer beware
Do not buy a dog from this woman! Who knows her name may not even be Mona, she is a fraud and a liar. DO NOT BELIEVE A WORD SHE SAYS SHE IS A SCAM, SHE IS IN IT FOR THE MONEY AND DOES NOT PROVIDE YOU WITH ANY REGISTRATION PAPERS! or anything else she promises you. SHE IS A LIAR. We love our dog but we do not love her, she can not be trusted she is a BAD PERSON and I hope I can help at least one person not buy from her, she is EVIL
Dane Lover...you've been snookered. As PT Barnum famously said.."There's a sucker born every minute."
I'll preface my remarks with my qualifications to comment on the subject of Mona and her breeding program.
My Mom had Danes from Lina Basquette {Honey Hollow} in the 1940's. Show and pet. Danes are the only breed I've owned since I graduated from college in 1962. I learned everything I know from not only my Mother, but from her friends..the likes of which were JC Parker, Amos/Anna Kaufman of Mountdania, the Johnsons {Marydane}, and many more knowledgeable breeders of that era.
I've added to that education from the experiences of prominent breeders like the Gregory's {Von Reisenhof}, the Mitchell's {Von Raseac}, Ray Cataldi {RoJon's}, etc.
With that said...Mona is nothing but a "puppy producer"...with a line of [censored] ten miles long. She's personable and kind.. {till you cross her, or disagree with her}, and could sell ice to an Eskimo.
Couple of questions for you...
How can you sell show quality pups, when you don't show yourself?
How can you say you research a Dane yourself, when some of her litters are sired by a dog from Hungary, whom she only has the "word" of a Dane breeder that you've never met, or had your hands on that dog yourself? From a breeder thousands of miles overseas, who wants to sell sperm?
As for the sad story of Mona being cancer ridden, and her husband's medical problems..preventing her from hiring a handler to show her dogs..those "problems" certainly didn't stop her from breeding litter after litter..and so producing plenty of $$$$$ IF she wanted to show. She doesn't show because her dogs are NOT quality, and she can con the public into buying her litters..without all those "pesky" extra expenses such as entries to shows, handlers, etc. She can stay home from shows.. and breed her ### season after season. How cool is that?
As for your pup's show record..Why don't you tell us the total number of Danes thar attended the shows, that he competed against? Not difficult to get reserve, ..if only 2 dogs there.
As for Mona being a member of the Ky. Dane club..she does NOT. The club demanded she remove the club logo from her website..as they did NOT want to be associated with her...
I sure hope your puppy lives a long, healthy, happy life. Free of Cancer, Bloat, and any heart problems that plague Mona's Great Danes.
Kathy G.
First I just want to say that people who create issues with their dogs and then decide "oh 'Ill just trash the breeder to try to get my money back" sicken me. I have a puppy from one on the litters the original poster is talking about. The first conversation I had with Mona lasted at least 3 hrs. She told me everything about her breeding program, her dogs, how she raises them, down to even the cost that goes into the whole thing. No one ever sees the cost involved in feed a pregnant and then lactating dog, stud fees, shipping of semen, extensive vet bills, ultrasounds, whelping supplies, puppy shots, puppy food and on and on and on. Which if you ever talked to her about you would know she does this for the love of the breed. Not a money making opportunity. She has had the chance to breed to some great looking dogs that when she looked into the pedigree decided not to breed because the pedigree had a questionable health record. If you truly do your research as I did, and ask questions you will find out the truth. The truth is that she is a breeder that cares extensively for all her dogs (including the puppies) and it breaks her heart to see any of them leave. The puppy that they bought they bought on LIMITED registration, and they were told they would not be able to breed or show him due to that fact. They had no interest in either at the time they got him. Did he have only one testicle descended... YES but she NEVER told them to have surgery to correct it. What was said is that by the age of six months it may or may not descend. Which should not have been an issue since they bought him and paid for LIMITED registration with a neuter contract and that would mean no breeding or showing anyway. His testicle did descend at 5 months of age but she still would not let the new owners have full registration because she did not feel it was right, and that he should be the best pet he possibly could be. Did he have a bite problem...YES which was created by poor nutrition. I too fed the Natures variety that she sent with me with my puppy FROM THE SAME LITTER. The difference is what do you feed after that is gone. Putting a rapid growing breed on a food with VERY high protein is not the answer. I did extensive research on this and a canine orthodontist said it boils down to poor nutrition...and he was not the only one who stated this fact. I saw this puppy before he left and he did NOT have this problem before he left. I don't think anyone in their right mind would pay $1000 to pull puppy canines. This puppy is now living a great life and his teeth have come in PERFECTLY with the right nutrition. As soon as that puppy started having issues she called everyone who bought a puppy from that litter and told them EXACTLY what the problem was. She is a forthright and honest breeder that wants nothing but the best for every puppy she brings into the world. She puts the raising of her litters and her girls before her own needs every time.
I saw these litters they are talking about, as I don't live to far from her. No puppy in ANY litter was EVER aggressive in any way. HMMM... sounds fishy to me!
Any dog is only going to be as good as it is raised. This is out of control of the breeder once it leaves the breeders house. Was he a little shy upon arrival to his new home? Probably...he had just gone for an airplane ride in a crate. I think I would be a little nervous myself after leaving my mom and the only home I have ever known. She spends countless hours with each puppy socializing them. Just to give you an idea... My son who was afraid of her dogs due to their size is now my puppy's best friend...they get along like peas and carrots. He has never shown one stitch of aggression toward any of my kids down to age 1 at the time we got him. I also did research and no puppy families have ever had a puppy with aggression from her.
As far as having Coccidia... all the pups had a full vet check before leaving. So unless it contracted it on the plane or at their house...I don't buy it. She wouldn't even let my puppy leave to come home with me because he had a touch of diarrhea from getting into the adult kibble. She wanted to make sure everything was good before putting him through the transition of going to a new home.
She also encourages visits to her home to meet the puppies starting at 6 weeks when their immune systems are a little stronger.
As far as why her dogs were not shown...Well lets see...if you were diagnosed with breast cancer had to go through chemo and everything that goes along with the disease would you want to be in the show ring running around? Could she pay someone to show them for her? Sure if your filthy rich, which if you are paying for what they were every last dime is accounted for. OH... and did I mention that during this time her husband was diagnosed with colon cancer as well... yeah that makes ME want to jump right in the ring worrying for my own life and now the life of my husband as well. And if that wasn't enough she was also taking care of her terminally ill father at the same time. Sign me up for that!
Did she breed to a dog who bloated? Yes! Did she know of the problem before breeding? NO. Everyone knows that many factors can contribute to bloat. There was no history of bloat anywhere in the pedigree. I researched this myself.
Did a litter-mate die from heart problems...Well if you consider the puppy's heart stopping due to a vet overdosing the dog with anesthesia during an ear crop and then leaving him unattended... heart problems then Sure.
As far as being shunned by her local breed club? She is in good standing and recently paid her dues for the year. I was standing right next to her at one of the shows where I was showing my puppy and heard her talking with the treasurer of the club. And anyone can call to find out this info.
All her girls are health tested any one can go to OFA to see that.
Now as far as not being worthy to be shown...Yeah right! My puppy who came from one of her girls has only been shown 3 times. Here are the results... show 1... one third, and two seconds in his class. Show two... two firsts and reserve winners dog. Show three two firsts. Not to shabby for a 6-7 month old puppy. He is not in the ring right now because we are taking a break for the winter and doing some additional obedience training with him. As any good dog owner would to have a well rounded dog.
Any one who takes the time to do their research will find out that what these posters are saying are all lies and twisted half truths.
She has always been there with any question I have had... no matter how small it might be, at all hours of the day or night.
I would recommend her with everything I have... My puppy was the best purchase I have ever made...HANDS DOWN!
I just wanted to say Im not a breeder but work in rescue and have for many years Ive been contacted in past about the breeder mentioned as I live in a neighboring state and ive had couple emails through one of the places I volunteer at over some other pups from this person a couple was severe skin issues.Their are ethical breeders out their and when its done right it cost alot of money and those good breeders are always in the hole after showing, health testing, properly raising etc...they spend way more then they would ever make.I have friends that show and I no for fact theyd never recover the money they spent trying to improve the breed.I have contact info from few people emailed asking for help with issues.I was looking for something else when I ran across this message board.
No need to post vulgar words..The subject is unethical breeding of dogs.
Mona has bred Danes with serious health and temperament issues. She used a stud dog that died of bloat..Bloat definitely is a genetic defect, so all those pups from that stud dog are "ticking time bombs." She has used dogs whose litter mates have died of heart problems. She knew of the problem BEFORE breeding her litters.
She was also a member of the local breed club, until they became aware of her unethical breeding practices. The club then "shunned" her.
The problem is lazy, ignorant and uninformed buyers. Their idea of researching a breeder is clicking on a glitzy website, reading and believing everything that is written there..and then blindly buying a puppy. NO checking facts, NO visiting her home place, NO finding out how many times she's bred her ###, and how many litters she's produced. Buyers do your serious homework BEFORE giving your $$$$$$$$ to a smooth talking shyster.
As to the original poster here. READ the breed standard, take a hard look at your dog from Mona...then tell me if he's fit to be shown. Mona does NOT produce show dogs because NONE of her Danes are worthy of being in the conformation ring. Neuter your dog... and pray he lives a nice long life.
Kathy G.
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You are right Erica. She is like ### on a shoe.
One of those fat lonely girls with no esteem or couth.
Ignore the stupid ### rajeed. She is a troll who just goes around trying to trash threads and bash posters.
Watchout4you - You are ignorant on the subject of breeding. Please stick to commenting on subjects you know something about. Your lack of intelligence is not needed here, perhaps it is needed elsewhere on the planet. The ozone could use you to plug some holes.
Also if I were you Id contact the great dane club of Ky and GDCA and let them know of this breeders ethics.Another thing if you ever decide to buy from another breeder again after this most reputable breeders keeps the pick puppy themselves and breed for theselves to keep before $$$$
Besides multiple issues with this puppy it is also a HUGE disqualification to show a dog with these genetic defects and you can be suspended from AKC if you try to surgicaly correct it any type of surgery like this is a disqualification and it is genetic so why would they think you would want to breed it.
Buyers PLEASE don't buy a pup online, without going to the breeder's home place. Glitzy websites look good, but the reality of the pup's living conditions may be anything but.
You didn't do your research good enough. Mona is a puppy mill, breeding dogs for the $$$$$$$. Neuter your dog. And join danesonline.com.
Kathy
Neuter him and tell her to F off