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this is for all of you brain dead coverall frinchise owners who can't make your business work. you DO NOT WORK FOR COVERALL
Country of complaint: United States
naturally someone is a goon when the point out your short comings. i have owned a franchise for 22 years, and if i don't know a little something about this than an idiot like you sure can't. franchise owners just can't accept the fact that they are to blame for the failure of the franchise they own. YOU DO NOT WORK FOR COVERALL, ACT LIKE IT AND GO TO WORK AND CREATE YOUR OWN BREAKS BY SHOWING UP AND WORKING YOUR ### OFF EVERY DAY.it's a shame that people who don't want to work and just sit back and expect coverall to do everything for them are the ones that can be heard the most.go get a job, and work for someone else.
i have no doubt that there are law suits against coverall, there are suits against every body.i do know that i am not an employee, and as a matter of fact, i really don't have that much contact with coverall.i get my own customers, and run my business without dealing that much with coverall. but i will say, they are there if i need help with anything, but i rarely do.i have the ability to earn whatever i want, it's all up to me.you have to WORK
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To lying source,
Law suits are getting filled all over the country in many different states. There also getting filled in other countries like the Uk, Australia and Canada. It's only a mater of time before all the people at corporate are arrested and put in Prison.
Richard Kissane the president of jan-pro knows what is going on. When jan-pro was exposed on Television for ripping of all of those cleaning ladies he said he would take care of the situation and rectify the mater and he never did. HE LIED ! Richard Kissane is part of this Ponzi Scheme and needs to be put in Prison!
Webster Capitol bought jan-pro a few years ago. They took investors money to buy jan-pro. I don't think that Investors are going to be very happy with the purchase that Donald Steiner managing partner, Rob long senior general partner, david malm senior general partner, charles larkin general partner, andrew mcgee general partner, kyle hynden senior associate, jenny betzwieser senior associate, mark greene chief financial officer, or sarah mcbride associate. I dont know why Webster Capitol continues to let jan-pro and it's president Richard kissane and the other people in his cave run things when they constantly continue to run a Ponzi Scheme!
Thousands of us who got ripped off by jan-pro and webster capitol are coming together and we are growing in numbers everyday. We will continue our Fight until we get JUSTICE!
As 1st amendment and Jonathan Fortman continue down the path of ###ic Sublime, let me be the first to tell them both what will happen with Monday's Ruling in MASS:
a) Judge will award approx. 6 million in damages to Plantiffs
b) DLA Piper will file appeal that is still open in previous judgement file
c) After Coverall loses that appeal, probably within 90 days, Coverall will file for bankruptcy protection in MASS, because the holding company that oversse's the state of Mass for Coverall, is seperate from actual Coverall Corp. Structure. At end of day, Plantiff's will get next to nothing, SEIU got nothing but alot of pain for no gain as their will be detailed questions about the mis-use of union dues, Liss-Riordin got SEIU's money and she got the "bump" as being a "bulldog" for pursuing this money loser of a case, 1st amendment will be able to thump his chest, but at end of day, he will get nothing, because he has no "standing" in the Coverall Case and Fortman after making himself out to be a complete ### on numerous levels, will say his case against Stratus is different, forgetting that even his "non-sense" in regards to Masters being taken hostage by Stratus Corp. will have failed in Missouri court system on lack of merit.
To Lying source,
We are hopeful that Judge Young will do the right thing. Just for your information Young was nominated by President Ronald Reagan on March 8, 1985. This shows that even a conservative appointed Judge knows a Ponzi Scheme when he sees one.
Even when a company files for bankrupcy it doesn't mean that they are off the hook. They don't just walk away.They will pay or be forced to. They will be arrested and put in prison if they don't comply. Assets will be seized. However the most important thing is that no more people will be ROBED of there life savings. They will pay eventually. We will also not stop there. We will also keep pursuing them until these people go to PRISON just like Madoff got 100 years in PRISON so should the people at corporate! They were running a PONZI SCHEME and people who run PONZI SCHEMES go to PRISON !
To Lying Source I don't know who you are and you wont tell us because you are afraid, you are Scared. However if I ever find out who you are and If I find out that you are someone at corporate trust me I will do everything that I can so that you are charged with FRAUD and put in PRISON !
1st amendment, It doesn't matter who was nominated him for his postion, in MASS there are nothing but Liberals, Full of Liberal bias, Complete with Liberal leanings, look at Scott Brown, look at Mitt Romney, both CLAIM to be Republicans, both are nothing but Moderate Democrats! In regards to Bankruptcy, even Fortman knows better, Liss-riordin already knows what is going to happen and in all honesty, between the SEIU money already in her coffers, the publicity and additional STATUS she has gotten from fighting this "good fight" she has made millions for herself and her firm! In regards to me, who I am, what I do, who I work for is really none of your business...I've been right more times than wrong...I seem to know more about things than you do as an "insider" with liss-riordin and supposidly the "lead plantiff of a class action against Jan-Pro". As I've stated to Fortman (the loser that he is) anytime you decide to "man up" then "cum get sum"!
To lying source,
You still wont tell us who you are. I guees you are SCARED! By the way its really funny how you say "man up to get some " How ever you wont say who you are? You continue to hide like a Rat in a cave. You are the one who wont man up.
1st amendment, poor ###...Your second best "hero" Richard Solomon, just informed you on Blue Mau Mau that your hero and her clients will get absolutely nothing by the time it is all said and done. You have been drinking the Kool-Aid thinking that you are going to be a millionaire and now all of a sudden, your world has begun to crumble. Really a sad moment for you isn't it.? I almost feel sorry for you, all your dreams, all your hopes, all your promises are fading away fast...
Maybe you can get Fortman to comfort you, take you for a ride in his old Mercedes that has over 250k miles on it, buy you an ice-tea and tell you how wonderful his life is as he is paying his back child support, finding himself another girlfriend in his office etc...
To lying source you still wont tell us your name or who you are? Why are you so scared. Don't you get tired of hiding like a Rat in a Cave.
I noticed that you joined bluenaunau LOL. I see that you are trying to do some Damage control LOL. I noticed you call yourself churn LOL. Thats the word that coverall, jan-pro and janiking use to steal accounts from people.
Coverall Looses Coverall to pay triple damages. Good article that came out on Bluemaumau.org
Here is the link to the full story
http://www.bluemaumau.org/11385/coverall_pay_triple_damages
Coverall to Pay Triple Damages
Posted Sat, 2012/03/17 - 21:53 by Janet Sparks
BOSTON – A federal judge ruled last Thursday that Coverall North America must pay triple damages to hundreds of workers classified as franchisees instead of employees, dating back from 2006. Previously, he had ruled that the court would triple damages from 2010. That changes the calculation of damages dramatically, adding the four year period.
In addition to the award on damages, the global janitorial cleaning franchisor will have to pay all the initial franchise fees and additional business fees, as well as recovering insurance deductions. The judge said those fees were unlawful and can be recovered as provided by the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court.
Attorney Shannon Liss-Riordan of Lichten & Liss-Riordan, representing the class plaintiffs, said they were excited about the order. “We are very pleased that the workers who did not have arbitration agreements will be getting a judgment, and can finally see a conclusion to their case, ” she declared.
Liss-Riordan said the parties were given 30 days to submit what final calculations are based on from this order. She added, “We are now looking forward to the judge’s further rulings on the workers who had arbitration agreements. That will be the next step.”
The case, Awuah v Coverall North America Inc., has been closely watched by the franchise community since it began in 2007. The original complaint filed by eight purported franchisees alleges that they were misclassified as independent contractors instead of the reality of being employees. They accused Coverall of not providing the promised volume of cleaning contracts to them after they paid $6, 000 to $30, 000.
As employees, the plaintiffs assert that Coverall is also liable for minimum wage, overtime and wage law violations. In the lawsuit, the employees claim breach of contract, misrepresentation, deceptive and unfair business practices and unjust enrichment.
What you can do to get Justice.
Near the back of your franchise disclosure document there is a section that contains a List of Former Franchisees.
Step 1 – Call everyone on this list and talk to them ad tell them your store, they will tell you their reason for leaving Franchisor, you must all ban together.
Step 2 – Then call all radio and television broadcasting stations near all you and tell them your story, one of them will want it exclusive and they will broadcast it.
Step 3 – Get a transcripts from both radio and television broadcasts, and yes get a video from television broadcast too.
Step 4 – Find a attorney that will take your case without putting any money down as he will see he can get paid when he wins your case.
Coverall Ponzi Scheme
It looks like the people who bought into the coverall Ponzi Scheme will soon get Justice.
Here is part of the article. To read the whole article you can go to the link bellow.
‘The Sky is Not Falling’
Although ruling in Coverall case could cause sweeping changes
By Julie Bennett
As published in: Franchise Times – May 2012
Coverall’s five-year legal battle over whether its Massachusetts franchisees are really company employees is not over, but the lawsuit’s growing success is generating alarm within the franchise community. In March, District Court Judge William Young ruled again in the franchisees’ favor, stating that a group of at least 115 franchisees were misclassified as independent contractors and are eligible for the benefits employees would have earned during their tenure with Coverall, including back wages and overtime pay.
He ordered Coverall to refund the monies the franchisees had spent on franchise fees, cleaning contracts and insurance, and said he would impose triple damages on the cleaning company back to 2006. “We’re talking tens of thousands of dollars for most of the workers, ” said Shannon Liss-Riordan, of Lichten & Liss-Riordan in Boston.
Judge Young was expected to rule on the total amount of damages in mid-April. And as soon as that happens, lead defense attorney Norman Leon, a partner in DLA Piper’s Chicago office, said that Coverall would file another appeal. In order to ask the U.S. Court of Appeals, First Circuit, to review Judge Young’s most recent ruling, Coverall will have to post a bond based on the total damage amount, Leon said.
http://franchisetimes.com/content/story.php?article=02367
Coverall has to post a 3 MILLION DOLLAR BOND before they can appeal!
Here is the most recent article.
Franchisor Nightmare: The Scandal At Coverall
By Carol Tice, Forbes Magazine 5/11/2012
Janitorial franchise Coverall is receiving a $3 million bill from a Massachusetts court this week in a lawsuit other franchisors are watching closely. At the heart of the case is a controversy over whether some franchise owners aren’t franchisees at all, but rather employees who’ve had to pay fees for the right to have their job.
The court ruled last fall that the Boca Raton, Fla.-based franchisor must pay back the franchise fees over 100 people — mostly new immigrants — paid the company, plus interest and lawsuit costs. The court’s opinion? Privately held Coverall misclassified its employees as franchisees, so their fees should be refunded.
The damages calculation was just completed this week, says attorney Shannon Liss-Riordan of the firm Lichten & Liss-Riordan, who represents workers in the case. She says this judgment may only be the beginning — more than 700 additional Massachusetts Coverall workers are still pressing their claims.
Coverall’s woes stem from the way the company structured their franchise arrangements. Most franchises work like this: An owner pays a franchise fee and receives training and marketing help from the parent company. But other than that, the franchisee is in charge of their own business, and finds clients, makes sales, and records revenue. Out of that revenue, a franchise royalty is then sent off to the corporate parent.
Many of the big janitorial franchises operate differently, the suit claims.
Instead of funds flowing from franchise units up to the corporate parent in the form of royalties, “money flows downhill, ” Liss-Riordan says. The suit documented that in general, Coverall finds the clients, assigns them to franchisees, negotiates contracts, bills and collects payments — and then pays the franchisee their share. This structure led the court to conclude the relationship is really that of employer and employee.
As you might expect, the ruling in Awuah v Coverall North America Inc. has sent a shiver down the spine of the franchising industry ever since the state court ruled against Coverall last year. Similar suits are in process in other states and against other major janitorial franchisees, including Jani-King and Jan-Pro, says Liss-Riordan. Attorneys are looking to other states with strong employment laws, such as California, as likely places to pursue similar class-action lawsuits on behalf of franchisees.
For its part, fast-growing Coverall plans to appeal the Massachusetts decision. The company issued a statement saying, “Coverall still believes its Franchised Owners are independent business owners and not employes; as such, they operate their commercial cleaning service businesses, maintaining accounts and hiring independently.”
Unsurprisingly, the International Franchise Association is also unhappy with the ruling, which is the first time courts have ruled against franchisors in this manner. “We continue to believe that the franchise industry should not be subjected to this Massachusetts independent contractor law, ” IFA said.
Will there be more cases like this? Bet on it, says Liss-Riordan. But don’t expect this to spread throughout the franchise world.
Most franchises don’t structure their agreements with franchisees the way janitorial chains do, Liss-Riordan says. Asked to identify another industry that might be next, she says she’s heard of no others with similar franchise setups.
“This decision has not ended franchising as we know it, ” says Liss-Riordan. “The sky is not falling.”
http://www.forbes.com/sites/caroltice/2012/05/11/are-some-franchisees-really-employees/
See my comments on the Jan-Pro Line, too stupid to go there, send money to liss-riordin or the other idiot Fortman, because your too stupid to realize that NO MONEY WILL EXCHANGE HANDS!
Judge Presiding over the Jan-Pro Case rules against Jani-King. If the same Judge that is Presiding over the Jan-pro case just ruled against Jani-King then we can expect the same fate to follow against Jan-Pro.
Another Judge once again rules against the cleaning franchisors this time against Jani-King. They to like coverall will have to pay back there cleaners there franchise fees. The cleaners are ruled to be employees. I'm only posting a small portion of the article to read the whole article you can go to the following link.
http://www.bluemaumau.org/11679/deja_vu_janiking_workers_are_not_franchisees
Posted Wed, 2012/06/20 - 13:23 by Janet Sparks
Deja Vu: Jani-King Workers Are Not Franchisees
BOSTON – A district judge once again has issued an order stating that Jani-King International and other entities misclassified its janitorial workers in Massachusetts by labeling them as franchisees.
In doing so, the world’s largest janitorial cleaning service franchisor will have to pay damages to the employees, which will include the franchise fees and additional business fees, as well as all insurance payments made by the workers. The judge also denied the company’s efforts to decertify the class action lawsuit, at this time representing approximately 300 janitorial workers
Franchising does not entitle you to a free ride. Read the janitorial franchise agreement BEFORE you sign it. If you sign it then take care of business and stop blaming everybody for your failures other than yourself. This country was built by do-ers, NOT whiners.