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https://reactionarytimes.com/2017/09/08/a-watermark-of-authenticity/
Re: SAO Case #16-2848 Brown vs. State Bar of Texas
Synopsis of the case is as follows. In January of 2014 (when child in question was 17) we approached Watermark Church with the information that member Anita Prevett Smith had lied an affidavit to the State Attorney General regarding child support in the amount of $16, 054, lied about $1, 200 of insurance that was free to the Smith's from Watermark Church as well as lied to our child. (This is documented)
The stress from the inaccurate garnishment of my husband's paycheck (before the A.G.'s office credited us every penny) actually sent me to the hospital 1/23/2014, ten days before the A.G. mediation with stress-induced hypertension. A five-thousand dollar medical bill resulted, as we had no insurance; I was sent by an E.R. nurse. (Danny Updike of the Concho Valley Regional Advisory Council)
As explosive as our accusations were, I actually took a pseudonym when I contacted Watermark Church because I had a friend who attended there at the time and the child's surname obviously connected us to her.
The child of course hearing two different stories from the two sides was obviously confused. She requested we all meet to sort things out. A meeting was arranged for Saturday of Labor Day weekend at the La Quinta Conference Center in Eastland, Texas; a half-way point since we live in West Texas.
When Watermark Church found out we were telling the truth about everything, they conveniently cancelled the meeting with staff attorney Bobby Crotty stating "there were discrepancies in our story."
Obviously an 18 year old (at this point) is going to believe a mega-"church" over a couple from a lowly town in West Texas. The result is that my former Marine husband, a man of honor was alienated from the child he shared joint custody of for ten years.
Furthermore, the Right Now Media/Ministry workplace of Anita Prevett Smith for which Todd Wagner produces media, refused to give us insurance invoices for the child despite being shown a copy of the divorce decree. We wanted to see the invoices since Anita Prevett Smith had lied about Watermark's insurance amount and Right Now provided the previous insurance as Anita's employer.
Later that year, December 2014, Mrs. Smith harassed me at the website where I was blogging by using a pseudonym sent from a Right Now I.P. address. I was sent a computer virus as well. (documented)
Brian Moseley is the CEO of Right Now Ministries, and is conveniently an elder for Allen Bible Church who uses their media, and is the employer for Anita Smith.
I contacted every elder and the pastor of Allen Bible only to get no reply, and a rude reply from elder Tim Chastain, making us out to be the "bad guys".
Right Now Media would not help us either despite having shown them evidence to Anita Prevett Smith's nasty messages on my blog.
I have filed two grievances against the State Bar of Texas as well as filed two appeals. When I "cold-called" Jordan Preddy (Chief Disciplinary Counsel for the State Bar), she said "It couldn't be proven what Crotty did was in the contact of work" (since he attends church there as well). Well, Crotty is an employee of WM as well as an active attorney, furthermore, I have testimony from ANOTHER Watermark victim re: Crotty "They will do whatever it takes to protect the brand."
I "cold-called" Preddy's supervisor, Kathleen Morgan, and she said that "discrepancies" is an "opinion". No, "discrepancies" is a NOUN and at this point we had asked in WRITING six times for them from Watermark Church only to get silenced.
So in essence, Watermark Church lobbed a "napalm bomb" of lies, only to run and hide. Watermark has refused outside mediation as well (documented) LEGALLY the burden of proof is on the person who makes the accusations ‘actori incumbit probation'.
Watermark Church KNOWS we can't afford an attorney. Our lives have been devastated for the past three years, it has been nothing short of a surreal nightmare. The stress sent me to a minor emergency clinic July 27, 2015 AFTER I told Watermark Church I was having "chest pains" which was the truth. (documented)
I had told Watermark Church VERBATIM July, 2014 that Anita Prevett Smith had Narcissistic Personality Disorder; my bachelor's is in Neuroscience and my husband's mother is a psychologist (she has known Anita for 20+ years).
We had told Watermark Church when the child was 17 that staff was lying to her. Would this not be negligent retention, since they did nothing, if not criminal negligence?
Watermark Church, Allen Bible and Right Now Media/Ministries are in a "financial menage a trois" that my husband easily found on-line by paying a small fee and doing some research.
Please help us, this is a "David versus Goliath" scenario if there ever was one.
My husband is a man of integrity and honor and I refuse to let these [censored] slander him alienate his only child to hide their lies when Todd Wagner just recently shunned/shamed another member after publicly shaming one in 2006.
Sincerely, James Russell and Leslie Ann Brown
Dialogue and questions concerning todd wagner and watermark community church
Is this really a biblical church? Who believes that Watermark is truly a New Testament fellowship other than indoctrinated seminarians and the biblically illiterate?
Is all remarriage sin as they teach?
Does Watermark's leadership truly hold God's Word final authority or is there a mixture?
Is "eternal security" no matter what biblical as they teach? I mean if someone gets saved and then falls away and dies in sin, will they still go to Heaven?
Todd Wagner is a cloaked Calvinist which is a system of theology he learned at DTS and is not at all biblical. Why does he hide this? Why does he espouse these 5 points, all heretical and subtly teach them?
Why doesn't Watermark use the King James Bible? Why do they use the corrupt NASB version?
Why is there so little genuine New Testament fellowship among those who attend Watermark?
At Watermark, is there an over emphasis placed on church membership?
It's a known fact that many who are members at Watermark are not born again.
Is this a country club or a true New Testament gathering to worship Christ?
Is their vain attempt to put people together and then call it biblical community a testimony of their fleshly motives and endeavors? Is it merely a fabricated "fellowship"? Is it producing the fruit of true Christian fellowship or is it merely for the self-serving purposes of the leadership?
Why is so much emphasis placed on church membership?
Why are people who don't choose to become members shut out of activities?
Are individual members truly learning God's Word for themselves?
Why are those who attend Watermark for years still scripturally illiterate?
When have you ever met a so-called member of Watermark who is actually soul winning, that is, doing the great commission?
What kind of fruit is Watermark producing?
Is Watermark a corporate "church" set up for the benefit of its leaders?
Some have related that the fruit of this seems to be the coldness, the lack of authentic Christian love produced by the Holy Spirit.
Is the leadership at Watermark controlling as some have stated?
Why are millions of dollars spent on the head pastor and real estate, including extra campuses?
Has Watermark truly been set up to further the true Gospel of Jesus Christ or make a name and build a legacy for Todd Wagner?
Is Todd Wagner a millionaire? If so, does that reflect Christ and His apostles? (no)
Todd was my counselor at Kanakuk Camps for a summer. I was blessed to attend Kanakuk for years and years. All of the years I attended Kanakuk I had awesome and incredible counselors except for Todd. If you were not From Highland Park or University Park Todd Had no use for you. If your Parents were not rich and someone. Todd could use he had no use for you. I was a messed up kid at that time and Todd was the worst counselor ever. Todd loves and worships money and attention. Todd uses God to accomplish his goals of money, his park Cities home and a bunch of followers who are not bright enough to see who Todd really is. Todd could care less about Jesus Christ. Todd uses Jesus Christ to get rich. He is full of Pride, never apologizes and is the fakest person I have ever met.
@Pdan10 is obviously a seminary dupe who gullibly bought into the misinformation he rec'd in the jesuit "protestant" seminary he attended.
To say that the NASB is taken from "the latest/more recent manuscripts" is delusional.
The latest in no way mean the correct manuscripts.
HOW does that explain the butchering of God's Word?
WHERE is the 2nd half of Romans 8:1 Dan? Why did the nasb chop it?
what about Matthew 17:21? WHERE did it go?
Oh what about the blood of Christ removed from Colossians 1:14?
DOUBT-LADEN FOOTNOTES
The NASV like many other modern translations contains many doubt-laden footnotes such as:
‘Many mss.(manuscripts) do not contain this verse.’
‘The earliest mss read.’
‘Some ancient mss add.’
‘Many ancient authorities read.’
‘Not found in the most of the old mss.’
‘Some mss insert.’
‘Some ancient mss do not contain.’
Unlike a good Chain-Reference Bible that points the reader to other texts on the same subject, these footnotes clearly show that the NASV translators, whilst putting on a show of apparent fairness, are really unsure of their own product. ‘Is the NASV God’s Word for Today or Not?’ They obviously don’t know or don’t believe, else they would not insert so many conflicting footnotes; which not only cast doubt on the King James Bible, but also on their own version which within 28 years of its publication in 1971 is now being phased out.
Learn Greek and Hebrew? 2 dead languages?
That is a falsehood learned in seminary.
Lame.
Did God give us His Word in our language? Yes or no please.
Did Jesus say the original languages would lead His people into the truth or the Holy Spirit. Did the LORD not give us the written Word IN OUR LANGUAGE? (John 14:26; 16:13-14) That's a yes or no question.
Never mind your high minded lies learned in seminary.
What did Jesus tell us?
Where did Jesus or His holy apostles ever instruct anyone to make sure they learn the original languages?
Don't even think about using the lame lie that "that was before we had the Bible in its full form" ... as if Christ Himself didn't know what was to come.
Todd Wagner is not open. He's stuck in his ways, has created a multi-million dollar empire selling a false gospel, misrepresenting Christ. He's not going to give up his earthly fortune for Christ.
Mar 10:23 And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!
Mar 10:24 And the disciples were astonished at his words. But Jesus answereth again, and saith unto them, Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God!
Mar 10:25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
@grantp1992 I encourage you and everyone else on this thread to make sure all of your facts are straight before you make accusations or say things that are untrue. Most of the families that founded Watermark 20 years ago are still members of the body and some are even on staff.
I also would encourage all of you to live by Scripture if you are going to try to defend it. It is very easy to hide behind a computer screen and write slanderous comments about a man and an organization and not confront people in an attempt to live at peace with all men. Most of you weighed in about you OPINION on calvanism, translation of scripture, and church membership and that is exactly what they are, opinions. This is why many believers disagree over these topics. You want to know what is not an opinion, and is an explicit command in Scripture? Matthew 18, Romans 12:18, Hebrews 12:14... If you see specific sin in Watermark or have an issue with the way the Church Leadership is running this Church I encourage you to reach out to Todd Wagner and pursue peace, don't sit behind your computer and anonymously complain. I don't think that is what Jesus had in mind when he was praying for unity of the body in John 17. If you want to make a difference in church culture, then be someone who unifies it, not divides it!
I encourage you to seek out understanding and peace with Todd if you have an issue with him. I guarantee you, he would be open to hearing your concerns and would be willing to share with you why he and other leaders at Watermark prayed about and decided to set things up the way they have here.
Hello. I have attended WM for several years. I came from a Charismatic Evangelical (Arminian) background. A few of the things I read on here, I can relate to. The church members can be very impersonal and unfriendly and sometimes rude . They chalk that up to it being a large church. But I see it more due to their overall uniformity (career status, wealth, ethnicity, etc...). I see it more as a xenophobia. I refrain from using the word cult because that’s truly not the right word, yet, at times, it can feel more like a social club. While Todd has said the comments seen here about ReGen, it is not an attempt to shame or guilt trip others. It’s a 12 step program, similar to CR to deal with hurts, pains, addiction, etc. One of the truths that the church functions under is that we are all broken people living in a fallen, sinful world. If you recognize that you are struggling with some sort of sin, hardship, etc., ReGen is a resource for people to grow in their walk with the Lord on a more personal, intimate level. In other words, when you recognize that you are broken and need to deal with something, reaching out for help is a sign of spiritual growth. ReGen is one of the ways to get help. While I can’t read thoughts, I really doubt that Todd meant it any way other than to promote ReGen as a potential place to get help and grow in your walk with the Lord.
Regarding Todd, I have met him, interacted with him and have watched him very carefully both on and off stage. Todd is by far one of the most transparent, genuine church elders I’ve encountered.
Every pastor or teacher that I have heard at some point has said it taught something that I’m not sure of, is foreign to me or is false teaching according to MY interpretation of the Scriptures. The scriptures say that not to believe every to try the spirits whether they are of God. As a believer, I have to guard my heart to whatever I hear or read and use the Scriptures as my guide. Todd teaches truth of what he has learned or what has been revealed to him from the Scriptures. Is Todd a Calvinist? I have no idea. Have I gotten that from his teaching? No. Is he a false teacher? No, I do not believe so. Again, you may disagree with his interpretations and consequent views on a particular component.
At the end of the day, Todd is a believer and brother in Christ. As another has said, reach out to him. Rather than speculating or arguing over words, get clarification or present your hurts to him. He’s pretty easy to contact. I think you’d be surprised to find a man that has a great heart for the people of God. Most importantly, if you feel that he’s not teaching the right things, pray for him. Pray that God reveals Himself to Todd.
The whole CR (celebrate recovery) scam is a psychologizing of the faith of the gospel. Total false. It's simply not biblical. Studying the early church in the Word of God reveals the simplicity of their gatherings and how their worship was to Christ as they served each other. WM is a big business and as such, keeps the money flowing in by intentionally removing cardinal doctrines of the Christian faith and creating a social club environment. If lives are being changed, it's in spite of WM and not because of it. I personally doubt that many lives are being changed by God's glory. There were no mega churches in the New Testament and the only reason they are mega today is because someone is perpetrating a busine$$ plan.
I attended this church for 2 1/2 years. Todd Wagner and Watermark's other preacher are deceptive Calvinist who preach Calvinistic lies they try to hide. No one there seems to EVER grow spiritually because of the false teaching. This is the truth.
Todd Wagner is a deceptive Calvinist who does NOT preach the pure word of God. Calvinism is NOT the gospel.
Ask Todd if he attended DTS.
Also, most of those who he founded that church with are gone.
They saw it was a business, controlling, and nearly cultic.
Leglistic while feigning to be Christian.
"sacraments"? What are you some catholic devil?
Did Todd Wagner attend a seminary?
There is no history of his participation in church or school/s, that I can find, other than starting the church in 1999, with a group of fellow believers. Also, I do not see anywhere on WM site their “Statement of Belief:” pertaining to God: (The Trinity, Jesus, the Son, Holy Spirit, the Cross, the Blood, and Sacraments), Authority of Scripture, Worship, Music, Fellowship, and Family.
http://www.watermark.org/dallas/about/beliefs
DTS, Dallas Theological Seminary graduates are brainwashed with calvinism and intentionally hide it because they know a lot of people know it's false. Beware of any preacher who has has been to seminary
Calvinism is not Christianity and in fact is a diabolical perversion of biblical Christianity and the nature of God.
Yes, Todd Wagner is a Calvinist which means he is a false teacher.
He deceitfully hides this but can be seen on youtube preaching it.
Sick.
Todd Wagner is full of self, refuses to truly die to his self in humility and ask God to truly be Lord of his life and fill him with the Holy Spirit.
No, Wagner trust his own fault "education" and and business tactics.
Watermark is a business
they are not interested in truly honoring the Lord
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Watermark cares only for their own and has created a cult like environment. This darkness is all beginning to come to the light.
"Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known." Matthew 10:26
Todd Wagner has made himself a millionaire out of this "church" and teaches such false doctrines as the diabolical system of calvinism and the heresy of "once saved always saved."