TSC2000Potential Scam and Illegal use of private information

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TSC2000 Europe are a company registered in the UK/Europe that claim they purchase Australian Lotto tickets for syndicates.

They run an affiliate system where you become a member and build a downline to earn extra income.

I used to be a member and when I canceled out the following happened:

1. Abused by email and via forums by my up-line over a period of 3 months
2. When I complained to the TSC2000 Europe office they did not take responsibility of the behavior of their abusing member
3. They have not removed my name from my affiliate link even though they have been requested to do so on a number of occasions and now ignore my emails totally.

My concerns are:

1. They do not take responsibility for their members
2. Are they really buying lotto tickets in Australia on behalf of their syndicate members or are they running their own private syndicate based on the numbers drawn from Australian Lotto each week?
3. Why are they not running their business for an Australian based Lotto system in Australia
5. The legalities of allowing an affiliate link to be still live when the affiliate is no longer with them
6. They don't have an address in Australia just a global email address that they choose to ignore the emails sent to it.
7. How many people out there have suffered losses and bullying by this company and have been intimidated into being quiet?

To date I have:

1. Complained to the NSW Trade Practices Commission who acknowledged my complain so...
2.More recently escalated my concerns and complaints to the ACCC who have not acknowledged my letter and are looking further into this.

I have also found out that the Northern Territory Consumer Department was reviewing the practices of TSC2000 Europe including the practices of the member who bullied me. I know it was being taken to court but the outcomes are unknown. I also know they did write their concerns to a number of Australian State Authorities but it all seems a little quiet at the moment.

It appears that at this stage TSC2000 Europe are flying just under the legal radar.

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  • Ru
    Ruxxy Jan 11, 2011
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    There is nothing wrong with TSC. I have been a member for over ten years and it has continually paid me. TSC has paid the price for promoting a scurrilous, unscrupulous individual to represent them in Australia. This person (whom I shall call CW) ran foul of the authorities because of the way he publically promoted TSC in the Northern Territory- so they cancelled his membership and threw him out. Since then he has been on a campaign of lies and distortions to smear the club and frighten people away from it. Such is the measure of this person- for years he was happy to promote himself and the Club as the best thing going- but when he was tossed out- he has been doing his utmost to discredit the Club and turn people away. This person (even according to the authorities) is to be avoided at all costs.

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  • Lo
    lotteryscams Nov 09, 2010

    The court did did not to need to decide if TSC2000 Europe Ltd was a pyramid scheme because TSC2000 Europe entered into binding undertakings not to promote their OzPower scheme in the Northern Territory, Consumer Affairs statement of claim indicated that TSC2000 Europe is an illegal pyramid scheme, it was confirmed however that there is NO business relationship between TSC2000 Europe and the Australian lotteries.

    It would raise significant concerns about what TSC2000 Europe does with the money that participants pay into their OzPower scheme?

    We have information about TSC2000 Europe promoter/s doing time in prison over the scheme.

    It was also noted that there was a private share offer made by TSC2000 Europe sometime around 2004 and to date no known person has received any return or refund and the company fails to respond to any enquiries relating to the shares.

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  • Lo
    lottoplayer Oct 30, 2010
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    http://www.abc.net.au/news/corrections/

    www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/06/09/2922536.htm

    As of today ABC News has corrected its article since the Court did not need to decide whether the System was an illegal pyramid scheme.

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  • Lo
    Lottery scams Oct 10, 2010

    Here is a mug shot of the owner/operater of th TSC2000 Europe pyramid scheme...

    http://eurorotto.com/visitors/visitor_corp.htm

    It is true there is a ### born everyday it's also true they don't die that fast!

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  • Lo
    Lottery scams Oct 10, 2010

    In April 2009 the Department of Consumer Affairs sued TSC2000 Europe Ltd for pyramid selling and misleading and deceptive conduct.

    TSC2000 Europe Ltd is a MLM pyramid scheme that offers shares in an Australian lottery syndication scheme called OzPower!

    The OzPower scheme and The Syndicate Club now known as TSC2000 Europe Ltd has a history of legal problems and poor business conduct.

    The company started in Australia in 1999 and warnings were released by various government departments warning consumers of the OzPower scheme.

    In 2003 The Syndicate Club Pty Ltd failed a declaration hearing in the Supreme Court of Queensland that the scheme was legal.

    The operation was moved to Norway and renamed TSC2000 Europe Ltd, the operation recruited members in Korea where further legal problems with the Korean Government resulted in at least one Korean TSC2000 Europe promoter imprisoned over the scheme.

    In April 2009 the Department of Consumer Affairs sued TSC2000 Europe Ltd in Australia for pyramid selling and misleading and deceptive conduct.

    The findings that TSC2000 Europe has no business relationship or affiliation with the Australian lotteries left members speechless.

    TSC2000 Europe advertises the Australian OzLotto, Powerball & Saturday Night lotteries in a syndication scheme that is said to increase the chances of winning the lotto, when it was revealed there is no license agreement or approval of the Australian lotteries the OzPower scheme had no credibility.

    TSC2000 Europe Ltd CEO Ernst Amundsen claims the scheme is legal in a desperate attempt to keep members participating in the scheme.

    People are leaving TSC2000 Europe Ltd now that the truth is out!

    Public warnings are all over the internet from various Australian Government and media authorities.

    Here are some useful links:

    TSC2000 Europe Ltd: www.tsc2000europe.com

    Supreme Court of Queensland: http://www.sclqld.org.au/qjudgment/2003/QSC/1...

    Department of Justice: http://www.nt.gov.au/justice/consaffairs/docu...

    Department of Consumer Affairs Western Australia: http://www.commerce.wa.gov.au/Corporate/Media...

    Parliament of NSW: http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/prod/PARLMEN...

    N.T News: http://www.ntnews.com.au/article/2010/06/11/1...

    ABC News: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/06/09...

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  • Lo
    lottoplayer Sep 27, 2010
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    The best chance to win in lotto is to play the Australian Lotteries Category 2 system, Sysem 6 on Tuesday, a standard "play the field" on Thursday and Sysem 5 on Saturday. The category 2 sysem is the only cost effective and legal way to reduce the odds dramatically and hence increase he chance to win. It is not jus a matter of bying multiple games - it is how the numbers are structured within those games; however, it might be to costy to play alone three times a week?

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  • Lo
    Lottery scams Sep 25, 2010

    Since the Department of Consumer Affairs sued TSC2000 Europe into the Supreme Court in Australia for Pymarid selling and illegal of the Australial lotteries names (Ozlotto, *****ball & Saturday Lotto) there has been alot of talk abot TSC2000 around the network marketing world.

    The answer to your question is NO TSC2000 Europe is NOT LEGAL.

    TSC2000 Europe does not have the endorsement, approval or persmission of the Australian lotteries to market, sell or otherwise promote OzLotto, *****ball or Saturday Lotto.

    The Department of Consumer Affairs has sued TSC2000 Europe for pyramid selling in the Northern Territory and further investigations are taking place around Australia with other government departments.

    There are complaints everywhere of TSC2000 Europe stealing money from bank accounts and credit cards of people that were once membrs of the scheme.

    Take a look at the scheme...

    1. TSC2000 Europe issues their members with a plastic card with numbers on the card.

    2. TSC2000 Europe say they play the numbers on the members plastic card in the Australian loteries (OzLotto, *****ball & Saturday Lotto), how they do that without a licence to sell lottery tickets is unknown.

    3. If TSC2000 Europe are purchasing lotto tickets with the money members are paying to them where is the proof the tickets are purchased, does the member recieve a reciept?

    4. So if TSC2000 Europe does purchase a winning ticket, the ticket must be purchased in someone's name, who's name is the ticket purchased in? So if the ticket isn't purchased in the name of the member (the person paying for the ticket) who's name is the ticket purchased in and legally that person would be entltled to any winnings!

    5. Since TSC2000 has a lengthy history of legal problems with not only the Australian government but overseas authorities as well, how can you be gauranteed you would recieve any winnings you are entitled to?

    6. When you look at the TSC2000 Europe website there is little or no information regarding the company and there is no listings of anyone who has one anything playing through their Oz***** scheme.

    TSC2000 Europe has recently fallen fowl of pyramid selling laws in Australia and has agreed to not promote the scheme in certain parts of Australia where ther are court orders stopping them.

    TSC2000 Europe continue to promote the scheme in Australia against the court orders and are in contempt of court.

    SO...

    How in the hell could any sane person trust them to purchase lottery tickets and pass any winnings on to the people paying for the tickets???

    TSC2000 Europe is a pyramid scheme and should be avoided if you have been asked to join TSC2000 Europe you should contact your state Department of Fair Trading or Consumer Affairs immediately and report the promoter.

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  • Ts
    TSC2000 Europe Jul 31, 2010

    WARNING
    TSC2000 Europe Limited Illegal Pyramid Scheme Scam

    On the 28th of April 2009, the Department of Consumer Affairs issued a press release warning people of a Pyramid Scheme seminar being conducted by TSC2000 Europe limited in the Northern Territory.

    Officers of the Department of Justice attended the TSC2000 Europe Limited seminar in Darwin on the 28th of April and warned all attendees of the penalties of being involved with illegal pyramid schemes.

    Acting Commissioner Mr Gary Clements notes...
    It is illegal in the NT to participate in an illegal pyramid selling scheme or to induce a person to participate. Individuals face fines of up to $55, 000 and corporations face fines of up to $275, 000 for breaches of the NT’s Consumer Affairs and Fair Trading Act.

    Downloadable press release documents can be obtained from the Department of Consumer Affairs website from April onwards at: http://www.nt.gov.au/justice/consaffairs/media/2009media_release.shtml

    The Department of Regulatory Services in the Australian Capital Territory have also issued warnings regarding the illegal marketing activities of TSC2000 Europe Limited in the A.C.T

    The Australian Securities Investment Commission (ASIC) have also contacted TSC2000 Europe Limited's Australian representative Cheryl Poindestre in relation to TSC2000 Europe Limited operating unregistered and illegally within Australia of which Miss Poindestre has FAILED to respond.

    Miss Poindestre refuses to answer TSC2000 Europe Limited clients when contacted by phone, fax or email and withholds the facts of TSC2000 Europe Limited's illegal operation from potential TSC2000 Europe Limited members.

    You can try and contact Miss Chery Poindestre on [protected] or Fax/Phone [protected] or email [email protected]

    It comes as no surprise when you look at the people behind TSC2000 Europe Limited's illegal operation, Ernst Amundsen owner of the Pathfinder A.S company in Trondheim Norway purchased a share of the crippled TSC2000 Australia Pty Ltd (formerly known as The Syndicate Club) from the original owners. The Syndicate Club failed a Supreme Court case against the Queensland Government on the 30th of April 2003 (full details can be found here) http://www.sclqld.org.au/qjudgment/2003/QSC/104

    Further notices can be found at the following Government and braodacsting websites:

    Department of Justice:
    http://www.nt.gov.au/justice/consaffairs/index.shtml
    http://www.nt.gov.au/justice/consaffairs/media/documents/CApressrelease-TSC2000Web.pdf

    Supreme Court:
    http://www.sclqld.org.au/qjudgment/2003/QSC/104

    Australian Broadcasting Commission:
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/06/09/2922536.htm

    N.T News:
    http://www.ntnews.com.au/article/2010/06/11/154951_ntnews.html

    By Goggling TSC2000 Europe Illegal, Pyramid, Scam or other such words you will find more information around the net from credible sites.
    Ernst Amundsen's TSC2000 Europe illegal operation has operated UNLICENSED since 2003 from Norway and has now been found guilty of breaches of the Australian Department of Fair Trading and Consumer Affairs acts and many breaches of the Australian State Lotteries Acts.

    Ernst Amundsen and his company Pathfinder A.S should be avoided, DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH ANY OF THE PATHFINDER COMPANIES, you can find details of Pathfinder companies at: http://www.pathfinder.as/

    You can also email your comments to Ernst Amundsen direct at [email protected] and of course, Ernst does not have a contact telephone number, you may find information about Ernst Amundsen's shonky business activities on the internet, be sure to leave your comments regarding his illegal pyramid TSC2000 Europe and the Pathfinder group on blog sites around the world.

    The Department of Consumer Affairs have confirmed, there is no relationship between the proprietors of OzLotto, Powerball & Saturday Night Lotto and TSC2000 Europe Limited.

    TSC2000 Europe Limited has refused to pay bonus payments and winnings to members that have downlines and in another case there is an alleged $6000.00 stolen from one members bank account through a direct debit that was set up to pay fees to TSC2000 Europe Limited of which TSC2000 Europe refuse to acknowledge or return the stolen money.

    The fraud police are also investigating TSC2000 Europe on the look out to find anyone involved with the company.

    WARNING Any person involved with TSC2000 Europe Limited as a promoter or a participant is committing an offence and can be fined up to $275, 000.

    If you have a membership in TSC2000 Europe Limited's ILLEGAL PYRAMID SCAM you should contact your bank or credit card supplier and reverse all transactions back to the company and obtain a BLOCK on any further payments from your bank account or credit card.

    You should also forward this email to everyone you know to avoid your friends, relatives and associates being fined or prosecuted.

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