Ricks Karate review: unfair practices 16

The only reason he is saying this all is because he has not spent enough time there and he is a cowered because he is trying to gain business for his school. He is also scared of the fact that people can change. I am a proud Brown Belt of Ricks Karate and Mr.Rick has been and is like a father to me. This man is FOOL if he thinks that Mr.Rick would not speak up about that. He has lowerd his prices by a great deal(plus that is his FULL TIME JOB) and i have seen him confront the children AND PARENTS about both issues. I say again, THIS MAN IS A FOOL!

Wow. Talk about child-like behavior and serious defamation of character. I would suggest this gentlemen (NotHappyAbout) seek the assistance of a professional counselor. It would appear he has some serious character/personality issues to work out.

I can tell you that the children, adults and parents involved with Ricks Karate would stand united in saying that this is an upstanding gentleman, great father, great teacher and strong Christian. He teaches values first. He is excellent with the children and should be commended for his abilities, especially given his handicap. However, as most people would use a handicap to their advantage, it appears that Mr. Rick Barney lives every day as though he is not handicapped at all. My hat is off to him.

And you sir (NotHappyAbout) stated several times throughout this thread that you were not making personal stabs towards Rick. However your statements are wrought with negative personal statements such as "riding on his sisters back" etc. etc. You initiated this thread because you wanted to personally attack Mr. Rick Barney. There is no other reason for all of this. It was certainly not to defend yourself as you stated (from your reputation being ruined all over the county", because nobody truly cared to begin with. I doubt a single trailing conversation took place about you or your situation because nobody cared after how you acted.

You sir, were inaccurate about the dollar figures you used above. You are in fact guilty of defamation because you made direct damaging statements toward him and his business such as "do not attend Ricks Karate". It's OK to complain about ones experience, but I believe you certainly stepped over the line. And understand, there is a reason you are the only person out of hundreds that feel this way. It's not because he waves a magic wand and traps the minds of individuals... It is because he captures individuals support due to his strength in character and the example he leads with every day. If you want to know something about the mans character...notice he is the one person who has not attempted to defend himself on this ignorant thread...that should tell you all you need to know.

Good luck getting your issues resolved.

Who cares about the rules, pop one over the head if they are too rough, if someone complains say it was an accident.

Donald Kinnie reporting... I accept the challenge.

Shame on you... When you do not walk in a persons shoes with a personal issue you should not judge... Mr. Rick is my brother, friend and co worker. He is an AMAZING person and teacher. You sir have the problem. Also, this is a form of harassment and bullying as well as defamation of character. You need Jesus...praying for you. ~ Tari Jo

So what can we take from all of this after 2 months have gone by, that your still upset and you are determined to discredit Mr. Rick and his school... anything else? Throwing challenges around also Wow! Really? What if someone was to accept? It's pretty obvious why there was a problem your disposition is all wrong.

truth be told I attended class their b/c I was asked too and invited too over and over and thought it was going to be good for my daughter and wife and would have been unfortunately one incident ruined everything I should have listened to what everyone said about the school and stayed away but hey my mistake, everyone seems to be under the impression that I was asked to leave like permanently but thats not true I was asked to leave "that night". I could have stayed if I wanted too and decided not too for obvious reasons of embarrassment and being verbally ganged up on by ppl that only know what they heard. Anyone with even minimal intelligence can understand where Im coming from. He learned a valuable lesson that day he can do whatever he wants to others but when the heat comes around the corner ill run and tattle then let my mom fight my battles. Im not trying to be an ### im just saying thats what he got out of that. And the sad thing is he was placed in the class to begin with by his mother because he was being bullied at school. Ive got no hard feelings towards my opponent he knows what Im about to say is true "He was told to go hard on me" he was just following instructions (of course I was unaware) and to be honest with you if I had known that he was doing what he was told and that it wasn't personal I wouldn't have responded the way I did I say again if I had known he was just following instructions given by Mr. Barney and that it wasn't personal I wouldn't have responded in the way I did. Which begs the question WHY? Why exactly was he told to go after me like that? See there is a lot to this that you guys dont know about, its obvious reading your words you only know bits and pieces even the people that were in the class dont know what happened before and after u guys just dont know. Regardless if accepted or not I apologize to my opponent for the way it all went down b/c it wasn't your fault roles reversed I would have done the same thing and the result would have been the same Ive done this long enough and been around enough to know that. Things should not have gotten out of control the way they did and it never had to happen that way all Rick had to do was say stop, calm down you guys ease up a little bit (it happens all the time at any school) but he made the choice not to... Ill never understand why, but this is water under the bridge as far as im concerned im gonna be the bigger man and let it go I actually dont care at this point what is said IM not gonna respond ive said everything that NEEDED to be said everything else is just personal garbage and trying to get a rise outta me w/ character attacks Im speaking in facts and truth but I guess thats like speaking in tongues to you guys. Bottom line is you dont wanna know the truth because it may hinder your perfect image of things. Its just simple minded ###ed thinking to Label me as some old man that beats the hell out of kids lol nothing could be further from the truth.

Well this is interesting is any of this Rick talking? Or just 2nd hand inaccurate accounts? Obviously I have a very good idea who JML is Ill get to you later, and Ive met and attended class with Carol and I don't believe Ive had the pleasure of meeting the rest of you. But you all seem to be very passionate about your knowledge of what happened that night. Anyway since im getting the 3rd degree from everyone may as well defend myself. 1st thing and most importantly I was expressing my personal opinion of the school not in any way slander. Yes I was upset at the time of the blog for obvious reasons but still the FACTS remain the same since we all want to talk about what happened that night. ( TangSooDoblackbelt ) Not hardly humiliated by anyone or beat up for that matter my opponent came at me "headhunting" and eventually got lucky with a hay-maker and bloodied my nose as a result I lost my temper b/c he was obviously trying hard to hurt me and came at him in the same fashion and I was kicked out for it. Learning from my experience and examining my own shortcomings? What should I take with me from this? How to be a punching bag? How to let people younger than me go at me as hard as they want while I stand there and block and go lightly on them? Are you joking?( Jellydownskillz) Dont talk about the mans kids that's wrong regardless of what you think of him and also every school gets their students to teach for them so not sure where your going with that and how do you know what he's certified in?( Ashelylove) 1st off I used more control then my opponent until the end for obvious reasons My control was only off earlier in the class when i accidentally hit a girl too hard and immediately apologized for it and felt terrible about it because typically I do have much more control then that. 2nd I have trashed talked my previous school b/c it did feel like i payed for my belt but I earned my belt over almost a decade passed all the tests knew all the forms did everything right yes I earned my belt even Rick himself said I was being too hard on myself and them. 3rd you have the audacity to call me a bully? Beating up a kid in front of my daughter WOW you really have problems that's not at all what happened After the class was over my daughter asked me "why was he hitting you so hard"? I didn't say a word...were you watching the same match I was? Or are you just typing this crap to show your loyalty? 4th me and my family must be the most unluckiest people on the planet b/c I was hit in the lobby with a bow staff twice so was my daughter and my wife was hit in the head all within maybe 2 months maybe and it shouldn't be the obligation of other kids parents to reprimand them for doing so like we had to several times. And yes the parents do get rowdy out in the lobby and do cuss in front of the kids and Mr Barney has admitted that to me himself and said he has no control over what goes on in the lobby its an unsafe scenario plain and simple and even he admits people have been hurt before and holes get punched through the walls etc...etc.. Im not speaking on things I know nothing about. 5th on the list of lies and trash ashley on the point of money I was asked to leave then later on the phone was told my wife and kid could continue class but that I would have to take private lessons lol really? Once again you have no clue what your talking about. And last I have ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER SAYING ANY OF THIS TO ANYONE'S FACE AND I INVITE ANY OF YOU TO STEP RIGHT UP TO ME IF YOU THINK I'M LYING. Most importantly JML your the coward anytime anyplace just give me the word you think im a coward and need to grow up whenever your ready to call me a coward to my face you let me know and we'll take care of it big man Rick has my number just ask for it. The instructors rarely ever went out in the lobby to tell the kids to be quiet it happened but not often it always was an issue and I can guarantee that it still is. The teen was showing control in our match? THAT'S A LIE my opponent was headhunting plain and simple and when I gave it back to him I was asked to leave Rick knew he was going to hard he even said so himself Rick said and I quote "I knew what was coming I knew that was going to happen" And my response to that was obviously "THEN WHY DIDN'T YOU STOP THE MATCH" If your gonna let things continue on in that manner yeah either im gonna get knocked out or hes gonna get knocked out he knew he should have stopped the match but he wanted to see what would happen. He earlier in the night said my opponent complained that I was being to rough which was never relayed to me and Mr. Barney told him to just go harder I would've eased up no problem I asked my opponent if he was gonna be rougher if he minded if I did as well and his response was "no problem yeah its fine" he encouraged my opponent to go harder at me, not really sure what the motivation for that was. All either of them had to do was say hey ease up and I would have right away I'm not a bully and don't appreciate being accused of being one. And the teen girl that I got in trouble for being too rough with I hit one time to hard on accident and apologized up and down for it immediately I had no intentions of hurting her or anyone else and think its B.S. that I'm portrayed in this manner. Also I never said Ill tell my daddy? Rick threatened to call the police on me and I responded "go ahead and call my dad" as my father was a police officer...I was not in any way implying that I needed my daddy ###. Also left my daughter in the class looking lost? Again Lie I was sitting out in the lobby waiting for the class to conclude giving my daughter the chance to finish the class my daughter later asked me "why was he hitting you so hard" I would never abandon my kid and don't you ever speak of my kid again, what these idiots fail to mention is that I walked right back in the class and apologized to my opponent and Mr. Barney and the class for losing my temper but Rick couldn't leave it alone he made more comments which then made me lose my cool and I kicked my gym bag if your gonna tell the story tell the whole story [censored] You believe me to be childish and a coward I say again WHENEVER WHEREVER just let me know I never personally attacked anyone on here but you guys have to take it there don't you? Typical like I said WHITE TRASH! (Leah) quite frankly you don't know what your talking about You weren't there and calling me a coward I haven't said anything on here that I wouldn't say to your father or haven't already said to your father and check up on your laws none of what I said was slander. this whole thing is stupid I was more upset afterwards at the fact that I felt like I had lost a friend in rick and potentially lost friends in the other instructors including you JML who I figured was a friend all because of poor judgement by Rick and needing to make an example out of me to the parents Later on the phone Rick told me "I didn't want to do that but I had to, how would it make me look if I did nothing, yes I agree he was being too rough, but its kinda my fault because he complained to me earlier that you were being too rough with him and i told him basically to deal with it and give it back, I should have stopped the match I knew what was gonna happen, no matter what you cant go hard against a minor " quote end quote! he knows he was wrong but an example needed to be made i guess he needed to look like the white knight in the situation. Like I said I quit i was invited back for private lessons if I'm so damn horrible then why is that? Now that that's dealt with my original post was honest and truthful I did not lie about anything I said nor did I slander anyone or attack anyone's character in any way at all. However that's what i got in return wasn't it? And I'm trash? If I haven't already said this Ill say it again Rick Barney is excellent with the kids hes a fantastic instructor to the children HOWEVER an adult should think twice for the reasons I expressed in the original post and thought people should be aware of what their walking into with the issues of the Lobby I know several people who agree with me wholeheartedly but you wont find them on this website just the ones who agree with him (his current students and parents) like I said you can draw your own conclusions. I believe he was being a Hypocrite that night considering a few weeks before that Mr. Barney was hosting a tournament in which another schools competitors were in his opinion "being too rough" on his (Ricks) students so he then proceeded to invite the other schools representative into the parking lot for a street fight! Are you serious? And then turn around and do this to me? What a joke. He's supposed to lead by example so guess its cool for him to lose his temper but not me right? Yea check the facts before you make a decision based on a less than moral person like myself.

My my my sounds like someone got humiliated by a younger practioner rather than beat up. So, now instead of examining your own short comings as an adult student and learning from the experience you are still trying to retaliate in this most cowardly way. I personally can endorse Mr. Rick Barney as one of the best and most dedicated instructors I have ever been associated with. He has a genuine interest in each and every student that comes through the door, and his main objective is their development as a complete martial artist. My daughter currently trains with Mr. Rick and loves it. The personal attention, the respect amongst the teachers and students, and the successes that are celebrated together is awesome. Please make your decisions based on facts and not postings on the Internet base off of a less than moral individuals testimony. I'm sure Mr. Rick would welcome anyone who wants to visit his school with open arms.

What the man complaining fails to mention, is that the so called $200 fee (which, in reality, is lower) was for three people, himself, his wife, and his child. The fee for one person is much lower, a far cry from what he's saying is the price you have to pay.

The adults don't cuss in front of the children-in fact, they take care not to. If the kids begin to get noisy in the lobby, an upper belt or an adult steps in and tells them to behave, and the noise level goes down after that.

Adults are supposed to have control, as are black belts, which, if this man, who says he had a black belt before, should know, if he indeed had taken any form of martial arts before. Even white belts and yellow belts know they have to have control when fighting someone younger and/or smaller than him. This is to get the under belts and younger children more confidence in the sparring ring; if they don't fear getting their heads kicked off, they are more likely to want to sparr, and thus, get better.

The man complaining was fighting a teenager of thirteen or fourteen, while he himself is thirty (or over thirty years of age).The teen used control, but, because however the man did not block, he was hit in the face. He grew angered and starting flying off the wall at him, not showing any control or respect whatsoever. The boy, seeing as how his opponent was throwing him tougher moves, decided to give it back to him. Afterwards, the complainer said that his opponent "looked to be eighteen years old, " when the boy truly didn't.

Before this match, the man got in trouble for not showing control to another opponent, a teen girl, who was, as the boy, smaller than him.

Afterwards, the complainer proceeded to kick his gym bag across the floor (which he did again, later, in the parking lot), cussing, and telling Mr. Rick that he would "tell his father." Mr. Rick told him, calmly that if he was going to continue acting this way, he would have to leave. Still fuming, the man left, leaving his little girl in the studio looking lost.

The fact that Mr. Rick shares a studio with his sister means absolutely nothing, and anyone who has left the studio in anger has done so because they (or their child(ren)) have acted out, refusing to give respect to their fellow students. Despite what the people agreeing with the complainer are saying, Mr. Rick is a certified teacher, and he does not let students disrespect others and makes sure to discipline all of them, especially when they step out of line and do something as childish as hit someone twenty years younger than them as hard as they can.

I would also like to say to the complainer that "his daddy" cannot come in each time he throws a tantrum. In fact, his father shouldn't, as the one writing this article is a man over thirty years of age, who should learn that sparring without control against partners both smaller and younger than him, as well as not cussing "like white trash" in front of children is not adult like.

Congratulations sir, you have just shown everyone exactly how childish you are. Now, I'd say it's time to grow up and act like a real man, don't you think?

First of all you had no control during sparring those teenagers know how to control there kicks and punches. That school that you talked so highly about you trash talked in Ricks studio and admitted that you paid for you black belt. At Rick's you earn every belt you receive if you don't deserve it you take the test again. Your a grown man who beat up on teenagers in front of your young daughter how would you feel if a grown man was beating up on your child like you were to that 14 year old boy and an 18 year old girl. Your supposed to be a role model for her and your showing her that that is okay to be a bully. As for the lobby I have been there 12 years and have never once been hit in the face by bows and if a kids starts swinging there bow there are plenty of parents there to reprimand that child and trust me they do because I have. I love how in this complaint you didn't mention the reason you don't attend anymore. If Rick cared about money so much rick would have a contract and he wouldn't have asked you to leave because you were paying $200 a month. so why don't you stop trash talking like you said all the parents did because your just making yourself look bad. Everyone at Rick's karate is like family you best bet you will have a lot of comments on here. If you were a real man you would talk face to face instead of bullying over the computer.

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This post disgusts me! As an ADULT female of RICK'S KARATE for almost 3 years now I have always been treated with respect. What kind of person are you that you want to hit 14 year old boys as hard as you can or an 18 year old girl that weighs all of 100 pounds...DO YOU HAVE ANGER ISSUES? Maybe you should try MMA where you can just go bang it out no holds barred. I personaly go to class there to learn martial arts, dicipline and control, it's also called respect! If you learned anything at all in the SHORT time you were there you know that we are all like family in there. The students aren't just "cash flow". Rick is a positive influence on those kids; they all look up to him and respect him. If you do choose to slander someone at least get your FACTS straight... $200 a month? wasn't that for 3 people. As far as someone outside of the class being out of control in the lobby...if Rick is inside teaching the class how is he to know what is going on in the lobby. For the record in 3 years I have never been hit in the lobby. Not having a contract requirement shows that it isn't all about the cash flow...he wants to be teaching kids that are there because they want to learn not because they are filling a financial obligation in a contract. I can't say that I have ever felt like a punching bag while in there for 3 reasons : 1- When fighting a lower belt or someone younger I see it as an opportunity for them to learn, 2- they usually don't hit that hard and 3- IT'S CALLED BLOCKING! I am not sure what type of school you are looking for but good luck.

Stop being a little girl, stop pouting and grow up! For a man your age, why would you even want to hit or kick a 14 year old as hard as you could?! Sounds like you could use a little growing up to do. I am Rick's daughter, and to let you know I took karate from my father since I was ever young, up until I was about 13-14 years old.. The reason I no longer do so is just because i've grown out of it. But you, this is slandering and just because an issue happened with you, which was BY THE WAY, YOUR fault, does NOT give you the right do say what you're saying. My dad is GREAT guy, and even better, one hell of a karate instructor. So instead of sitting here, crying and putting your problems on the internet.. Be the "man" you so obviously think you are, and talk face to face. Such a cowardly thing to do sir, shame on you.. God does NOT like ugly.

WOW! Did you attend the same school my son attended? We came to know Rick after my husband met him in the gym in Martinsburg. Rick immediately became a friend to our family, which was new to this area. Rick encouraged us to bring our 4 year old to the "Little Ninja" classes because he was so timid and shy. We did, and we were amazed at the connection Rick had with him and with the other kids in the class.
He is amazing with our son and the other children, and his love for the children is apparent. I would say the person who posted above has a personal issue of some sort with Rick and is "venting" in attempt to ruin a good man's reputation.
I can promise you, if I for a second felt the school was unsafe my child would not attend.

What do you honestly expect from a "man" who doesn't have a drivers license, uses his sisters dance studio to teach his classes out of...piggybacks on his sisters dance recitals to put on karate demonstrations when absolutely nobody is there to see it... and all this on his parents land lmao! You cant be serious, never had to pay rent for a real school nothing about it has ever really belonged to him he just teaches class..convinces his teenage students to teach for him when he has to take his many days off.. Charges way more then his competitors and offers less in return...teaches so called "self defense" classes which are actually hapkido classes but BIG SURPRISE hes not certified or qualified to teach but gets away with it by throwing the "self defense" tag on it. And if that weren't enough his own children chose not to attend his Martial arts lessons. Ive never seen anything like it i actually feel bad for the guy but theres no way id go there.