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This is a bad day finally finding out “officially” I have been scammed out of $4, 300. I think its time we stop telling our sad and disappointing stories and start organizing and sharing our information. I am just getting started today and will post useful info as I find it. A number of postings talk about contacting the BBB. I found 2 #[protected] and...

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Choosehottubsdirect.com Fraud

I looks like I am another victim of Steve Imaloser Barbarich and HotTubDirect.com. I ordered a hot tub on Feb 2010, with the promised delivery date of July 30, 2010. That date has now been changed for the third time. It is now suppose to be delivered on Oct 18, 2010. I have been given the round around by some of the nicest sounding people in the world assuring me that they will make good on their promise. Below are other complaints that I just found posted on different forums and facebook.

"I am a fairly new owner of an Island Escape Spa that was delivered in 11/09..I already replaced a defective control panel and now the replaced control panel is not working. They (choosehotubsdirect.com) are going to send me ANOTHER ONE and in the meantime I can't enjoy my spa..has anyone had similar problems with these control panels?"

"I'm sorry to have to tell you this, but choosehottubdirect has a current BBB rating of F with 92 complaints in the past 36 months. If you wish to check this out, they are in San Francisco under ChooseDirect.com. This is a company that does not deserve to exist (my opinion of course).

Additionally, their spa are made in China, have no UL listing, and are illegal to install in most parts of this country. There's a rather large movement to get the CA Attorney General and the San Francisco DA to go after them. "

There are numerous facebook entries about this company. I sure wish I had found them before placing the order. I paid for the order by credit card and have notified my card company in hopes of help.

Has anyone contacted the California DA or BBB and know who I need to contact there. Phone number would be greatly appreciated

If you are looking for a hot tub do not deal with this company.

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unhappyconsumerchoosehottubs
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Nov 02, 2010 6:33 pm EDT

I also am a victim of this company. You can file a complaint with the BBB but its basically useless. File a complaint with the D.A. of San Franscisco by calling them at [protected] or online. They have had other complaints and the more they get the more they will do. I have been talking to them. Also, file a complaint with your home states Attorney General and the State of California. This hot tub company including the president has every excuse in the book. Even if you get your money back through Visa, the complaints need to be made to stop them from doing it in the future to other people. I did not look at the BBB webiste but was referred to them by ThermoSpas which is a reputable company. I can't believe that they can get away with this. They never come through with all their nice promises, trust me! its been a year for us and I have a lawyer invovled now. Good luck!

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I order a Hot-tub on October 23, 2009 and was told it would be shipped to me in 8-11. I paid in full ($3, 246.00) this was a BBB accredited web site & affiliated with The Association of Pool & Spa Professionals. On January 18, 2010 i called ChooseDirect because no-one called me to let me know my hot-tub was being shipped, I was told by an employee...

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Choosehottubsdirect.com Poor quality - Refund request ignored

I am the lucky owner of a hot tub bought from a seemingly legit website in California that’s BBB accredited. Supposedly a premium spa as the website portrays from the Island Escape line …called the Orion . But it seems I actually own a SpaKing from China. But I digress…
When I first discussed the order for our hot tub I was mislead to believe that delivery was to be early June before committing to the sale. I was told that if I processed the order right then I could get a tub within 5 weeks instead of waiting the usual processing time... as a shipment was coming in and thus could avoid waiting 5 extra weeks. Since then I've been mislead several times more as to when I would receive my tub. Each time I had to call and ask why my tub was not delivered and each time I was given another date .. June became July became August became Sept ...the most recent time with a delivery estimate of 9/8. Well Sept 9th had come and gone and now I was told a mid Sept date. Not once was I called by the company to be informed of any delays. I had to track down a rep after several tries and no return calls to tell me the status of my order. That should have been my first clue of what was to happen, but I kept thinking I was being unreasonable and to be patient and understanding. I have been more than patient.

Their policy on delivery stated on their website says they "will do the very best but cannot commit to specific deadlines". However there was absolutely no communication with me about delays and I have had to repeatedly contact their support for information. I found this appalling because I was given dates and assured it would arrive. It wasn’t as if I knew this going in.
I purchase nearly everything online and I have never dealt with such negligence
ChooseDirect.com had over $6, 000.00 of my money for several months and I've missed an entire season with my hot tub. I've had retained an electrician for several of the earlier promised delivery dates. The rep I placed the order from did not reply when I asked him direct questions about the delay regarding the way he "won the sale" telling me if I ordered asap I would get the tub with no delay (as I have mentioned above). Excuses abound and have included: they haven't had a chance to call us yet (even though it was almost 3 months after the original missed delivery date).
I called the delivery freight (Allied) used by the company and was met with total understanding on their part. I was told many ChooseDirect.com customers have complained about this situation, they were not the least bit surprised about my gripe.
I believed the company may be a scam based on their incredibly poor customer service. I checked their BBB rating to find it has an A- ... much higher than I thought.) It has since dropped to a B .In searching reviews of this company I found quite a few people who have recently experienced similar situations to mine or worse and who were VERY dissatisfied with their product as well . Perhaps you can see my concerns? I have $6, 343 on a credit card accruing interest since April when the sale was committed. I know that so far this just sounds like a huge inconvenience at worst I realize... But the plot thickens.

Once the product arrived I noticed something’s were missing. It also did not say anything about “Island Escape” or Orion…it was a SpaKing. That was mildly disturbing but it looked nice so we proceeded. I called the company and spoke to an operator who told me I had to contact someone else and to call back. I expressed that I was concerned because I knew the conditions of sale stated that I call immediately if I had a complaint or else they would no longer consider it valid. I thought it odd … how can I test a hot tub until its filled and powered. I was told this was fine and not to worry. I called again, not sure of dates and left a message with an operator. But no return call came. Weeks went buy, I think 2 or 3 before I talked to “Someone”. (Lisa)I mentioned the tub was missing a key feature I ordered custom. Its LED perimeter lighting. (This was one of the bells and whistles reason why I wanted a modern tub to replace our old tub, so not to get it was more than a monetary issue for us) To say the least I was disappointed and now I had this tub delivered and installed and no way get the lighting I paid for and really wanted. I accepted this defeat and moved on. I told Lisa about it and she said shed get back to me on an answer. Again I waited and finally a call back a week + later. She said they would give me back $199 for the lighting. I expressed my disappointment about the lighting and she agreed to give us an extra year warrantee and a years worth of spa chemicals. I accepted having no other recourse.
Well nearly a month later no refund and again I complained to the BBB. Not shockingly, a check arrived less than a week later! Humm. This company plays hardball I see. However even to date, still no spa chemicals. But that’s not even the worst.

Now it gets dicey… We notice that we are having a lot of trouble with the control panel. The manual it came with was very obviously translated from an Asian language to English and thus was very vague, and difficult to follow. (Its not my first hot tub with digital controls, so I know it was not me).
When trying to get help online, I found nothing about my “Island Escape Orion” Spa…it didn’t exist. The booklet said SpaKing on the cover, not Island Escape and when we asked about this Lisa assured us it was the right manual and said they were working on translating it for the future. That doesn’t exactly help me now…
Unhappy still and not sure how to appease this gut feeling that I was being swindled, I turned to the Better Business Bureau and filed a complaint. (Complaint Case#[protected])(Contact: Carrie Mosteiro) ( I have since filed another BBB complaint for failure to respond to my request to return the tub - they have not responded).
Since then I still can not control the temperature of the spa, even though its supposed to be an easy task. It can sometimes drop to 70 and sometimes heat itself to 113…(which I might add hurts a more than you’d think when you get in and don’t look at the temp first). I cant even set the temp to 113F if I wanted to, it doesn’t go up nearly that high! Several times the controls have actually just shut the tub off, sometimes it jams up and is unresponsive, and the only way to get it on again is to trip the breaker. To boot, remember I said those error codes don’t match those in booklet.

I am extremely frustrated by this whole experience. I have a $6800.00 spa I feel is crap, sorry. I did some research online about this Choose Direct and found a host of people who have very similar issues and complaints. Id be happy to furnish those links to you if need be, I have many of documented them. I feel rather taken advantage of. I’ve requested a refund both to the company, the BBB and I have contacted American Express, the card I used to order. I have also filed a complaint to the State Consumer Protection Board just recently. If not just for me but also the others who they have ripped off and bullied. Choose Direct is not a bargain site offering high quality products at lower prices as it pretends to be, it is a scam.

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Brenda Duncan and William Carroll
Stockton, US
Aug 05, 2011 3:46 am EDT

This is a re-run of what has happened with us to the T Wow we had nothing but problems we stopped payment until Choosehottubdirect convinced our Credit card American express everything was OK they sent a spa person out to check it out and Choosehottubdirect didn't pay them...Guess its power for the course...here we are and still no working hot tub sad...8, 200 worth of nothing but still paying the credit card...

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cad555
Getzville, US
Jul 05, 2011 11:04 pm EDT

Recieved spa seven months late.Was delivered as ordered.Hook it up and is working fine, no issues so far

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cad555
Getzville, US
Jul 05, 2011 11:02 pm EDT

Recieved spa seven months late. Was deliverd as ordered. Hook it up and works good, no issues so far.

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K-Town123
Fletcher, US
May 05, 2010 7:12 pm EDT

I would love to see this Steven guy tortured slowly and on tape so I could watch it over and over again. I've ordered a fridge over 8 weeks ago and every time I call they say it will be leaving the next day. I just filed paperwork online with the FBI Iternet Fraud Agency. I wish someone close to San Francisco could pay this guy a visit and discuss the weather with him...

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texastrue
Castroville, US
Apr 01, 2010 11:06 pm EDT

WOW, just unbelievable isn't it?! I'm in the same boat. I'm going after this guy with all I have! I mean everything. He can't do this to people and I WILL end up with my money back. I look for them to shut him down soon if everyone will file the complaints needed. I'd love to see them storm his office. He's committed some federal charges also from what I understand. Read facebook to keep up with this. It's up to US to stop him! Thanks!
sarajordan@peoplepc.com anytime. Spoke with attorneys and lots of agencies today.

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rippedoffff
Keller, US
Mar 20, 2010 2:20 pm EDT

yes I too cannot get a refund...and they are the worst company I have ever dealt with...stay as far away as possible...!

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deborah knoblauch
Northport, US
Mar 11, 2010 7:03 am EST
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the above statement is my case to the t-- they tell me they are going to fix my tub at the end of march-i guess it is goiung to rain money that day-they have asked me not to do anything until then!

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Harvey13
St Charles, US
Feb 19, 2010 12:54 am EST
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Ironic that on this very page is a Google Ad for who else? ChooseHotTubsDirect.com.

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Christy Ritterbeck
Langsville, US
Feb 15, 2010 8:40 am EST

I agree totally, I went through the same thing. When I received my hot tub there wasn't a 2 speed pump or insulation. Since I live in Ohio, these are very much needed. Also my TV DVD player did not work. When I called they assured they would take care of me. I said I wanted them to come get this hot tub and bring me the correct one, they refused. ( I have saved all my notes and emails from steve). Steve promised me spray insulation, that didn't happen. However, I am one of the lucky ones, Steve hired an outside spa tech, Charles, what a life savor. He talked Steve into retro fitting the spas that were wrong, so I have an American control panel now.
My hot tub was 3 months late and it sat on it's side for 2 months. The cover was also too big and he said he couldn't do anything about it. I ordered a lift assist and because the cover was too big it wouldn't work but Steve said they don't except returns. I could go on and on. The owner of this company has done a very poor job and it is a rip off. They owe the hot tub I ordered. The heater is a piece of crab, already went through 2, and they do not have any replacements. Since I have the American control panel I can go to an American heater, which is out of my pocket even though the heater was under warranty, but that is the route I am going.
They are lying thieves and Steve should be prosecuted.

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NoMoreHotTubsDirect!
Tekamah, US
Feb 03, 2010 11:56 am EST

The whole problem lies with ChooseHotTubsDirect owner - Steve Barbarich.
He is an absolute Rotten to the core person.
Someone should deport him to China.
Chooseing ChooseHotTubsDirect was the WORST purchase of my life! And, yes, they claim "Island Escape", but there is no such thing, not even any repackaging!
That is ILLEGAL!
I contacted BBB and filed a claim, which went on dead ears.
I contacted my states Attourney General and they went after him! That got the ball rolling and eventuall my money back.
The owner of ChooseHotTubsDirect.com belongs in jail, and he'll probably end up there sooner or later. I suggest you all step on it and get your money back asap. There isn't going to be any warranty or customer service much longer. Plus, check the shell thickness. Mine was 2 cm! Aint gonna last long!
Good luck to you all. My wife and I still shudder when we think back to working with them.

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I paid for my hot tub from ChooseHotTubsDirect.com in June 2009. I was told to expect it in early September September (they had to have it built in China, and shipped over). Early September came and went. I called. After numerous non-returned calls and email, they finally told me it would arrive by the end of September. It didn't. Then it was early October...

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Hello, I have no doubt that Mr Barbarich is breaking the law. Over three months have gone by since I last dealt with Steve Barbarich, and I've only gotten madder. He's really caused alot of pain and stress to me and my wife. I purchased an "Island Escape Spa" from him for over $7000 this spring. I found out that that brand doesn't even exist. Its a...

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