Ragsadazzle Ragdolls review: never received promised paperwork 48

Elaine Williams also greatly deceived me. I purchased a Ragdoll kitten from her in 2009 and never received promised paperwork or the supplies she promised (this was minor but still- another empty promise). I got excuses about her moving and copies being in storage etc. along with the consistent certainty on her part that I had them and how I must be confused which was infuriating. She would claim to “look into it” and never once got back to me. I reached out to TICA and they couldn’t help- all I could do was pay a fee to file a complaint against her. I did not do this as I really hung onto the hope that she’d do the right thing. Tabitha was given to me at 12 weeks old with a bad upper respiratory infection requiring treatment... that was just the beginning.

I remained very kind, understanding and cordial for a long time until my cat was having more extensive puzzling health issues. I reached out to Elaine again and to say that she was unconcerned is an understatement. She played dumb and told me how she was certain I got the paperwork once again. I did have to threaten to take further legal action at this point thinking it may get me results and she became very nasty. My cat is chronically underweight and constantly unwell and axious- her health has been a source of constant stress and a financial burden for years and all I wanted was her true medical history and some help to get a possible diagnosis and get her better. I got nothing even close to the relationship and concern for the cat that I was promised before she had my money.

I have spent thousands on tests, expensive diets, supplements and treatments trying to keep this cat healthy and comfortable. If anyone is interested in filing suit against this woman, please contact me at taylorrose22@gmail.com. At the very least, we deserve our money back as I don’t believe this woman has any right to call herself a reputable breeder. She knows we love our cats and she’s banked on us all giving up the fight or the fact that we are in different states making it difficult to pursue this legally but I’ve had enough and we deserve for this to be settled once and for all. What she has done is just so very wrong.

Elaine Williams arrested for placing ad to adopt baby for 14 year old daughter. See 12/7/2015 WSB channel 2 news story. Has her mug shot

My name is Donna and I am from North Georgia. I have purchased two beautiful Ragdolls from Rosetta and only have praise for her! They are gorgeous, healthy, affectionate, follow us around like puppies, and very intelligent. They will be one year old next month. I would recommend her in a heartbeat to anyone. I am sickened by the comments after reading them and the disparaging remarks about her . Every breeder in existence is going to have situations come up that are unfortunate. She handles herself in a professional manner from everything I have seen and read here.
When I decided to get a Ragdoll and I visited her home I was very impressed by her & everything I saw . In fact, so much that I decided to get two of them. She isn't just a breeder but someone who loves what she does and always thanks me when I send her pictures or videos of my Ragdolls. I consider her a blessing for allowing me to bring these precious Ragdolls into my home. After losing my only son in June of 2013 I treasure these lovable little creatures. They are a Blue bi-color mink & a seal bi-color mink. Thank You Rosetta! ( the attached photo is one of my favorites )

Hello, I would like to file a complaint against Elaine Williams (Ragsadazzle cattery in Georgia) we have a chocolate mink ragdoll ordered and paid, but we have still not gotten the mink ragdoll!min question, that can just sell on the internet, but never deliver a product.We still have all her emails where they always had excuses.Now we have heard from her, she responds just not anymore!We have a agent witness to Brussels that communicates with the agent at Atlanta. There are also complaints about its sales practice on Google. its website is always online.How much will they already have sold without a ragdolls to deliver, it's easy to earn your bread, but now I think it should DONE with her malpractice!

You still posting after all these years---even with the letter from the Attorney to you and to the Website. I tried to convince you to return the kitten for a full refund, but you refused to return the kitten stating it was the sweetest kitten you had ever gotten. I tried to settle everything with you the day that my grandson was born, but evidently you are still willing to post negative comments concerning me as a breeder. You would rather continue to try to make trouble after all this time---2-1/2 years. I am now extremely picky whom I sell my kittens to and require references as to how they actually take care of their kittens. I made a mistake selling you one of my Ragdoll kittens. If I even suspect the potential pet owner might not take proper care of their kitten or be trouble, I refuse to sell to them or return their deposit. I am licensed witht the GA Dept of Agriculutre, have all my kittens vet checked, shots are up-to-date, they are clean, healthy and extremely affectionate. I have HCM reports on all my adult breeders and have negative reports for feline leukemia, feline aids and heartworms for all my breeders. I can provide numerous references should anyone desire a reference. Although you are more than welcome to your opinion, I will turn over your comments and your IP address to my Attorney and let my Attorney decide how slanderous your comment is. I am not an Attorney so I will not make that decision plus you are right, even Breeders sometimes need to protect themselves from possible clients. Regards, Rosetta Bailey---Baileys Ragdolls

"She always threatens to sue anyone who has a complaint"...Exactly !
My personal opinion on this "breeder"...STAY FAR, FAR AWAY !

If you read the rebuttal again, I thanked you numerous times for your advice and for your expertise. I also said that at least you were the one person on this site trying to help---please read the rebuttal again. I am trying to thank you---not upset you. Like I said, I am taking your advice on some of the things. I have no ideal who you are, but you are evidently a smart and compassionate breeder, you do not seem to pretend to be perfect as none of use are perfect. I have admitted to making mistakes and I am not perfect or never will be, but I will always strive to learn more and to have a better cattery. Also, I do need to add to my contract about being 18 years of age or older. I also think that you as a breeder care very deeply about your Ragdolls---I can tell from your comments.

Once again, I am trying to thank you for your advice, your expertise and your suggestions so please accept my thanks or I hope you will. I cannot force anyone to except a thank you, but can only give the thank you. Also, it is on my website that no kitten will now leave my cattery earlier than 11 to 12 weeks old.

I will not respond to TCicca as it is a waste of my time. As stated, for those people who have made negative comments instead of trying to help or have a positive attitude about issues of breeding were turned over to my Attorney last week before Lovemycats81 ever commented.

I do strongly believe that you (lovemycats81) are trying to help and I so appreciate you trying to help. I would like to say thank you once again for everything that you wrote previously and tonight. I have not turned you over to my Attorney---only the people who have made negative comments---also the web hosting company has been turned over to my Attorney.

Respectfully Submitted,

Rosetta Bailey
Baileys Ragdolls
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Rosetta "Baileys Rags" You talk about people slandering you well what about you slandering your customers. Example writing a bad check! It was a post dated check that you encouraged me to write. Again "post dated" means that at the time the check is given ther are no funds available that's why it's a POST DATED CHECK! Do you understand that now! Also, to say I am extemely dangerous! How dare you ! You don't know me. To call me dangerous in my opinion is slander. Also, you called me an extremely bad troublemaker. Really, Rosetta please don't lower yourself to these extremes. There are only 2 people that know the whole truth! One of us it telling the truth and one of us is lying and also threatening AGAIN to sick their lawyer on us. Be careful and don't keep crying wolf or threatening with your 'lawyer" THAT IS JUST NOT FLATTERING, This is my LAST comment about this unlike other people I have better things to do and also better people to spend my very precious time with!

If you didn't threaten to sue everyone on here I WOULD contact you directly and try to help you. However you did say one of your customers on here was "potentially dangerious" and since I don't know if they were/weren't I didn't want it said about me next.

Then since I didn't agree with and commented on selling a 9 week old kitten with no shots you threatened to sue me!

I didn't slander or defame you or your business. (these people are your past customers...not me)

Again..sorry I tried to help. Good luck

Tica code of ethics from their website and RFCI are below for anyone that cares to read them

THE INTERNATIONAL CAT ASSOCIATION, INC.
VOLUNTARY CODE OF ETHICS
P: 956.428.8046 P.O. BOX 2684, HARLINGEN TX 78551 INFORMATION@TICA.ORG
F: 956.428.8047 WWW.TICA.ORG REVISED: 8/4/2009
I am a member in good standing of The International Cat Association (TICA) and have a TICA registered cattery.
I will breed discriminately, and only if I can find appropriate homes for my kittens.
I will place kittens only in homes that I believe will provide a life-long commitment of love, appreciation, and responsible care.
Any kitten or cat sold as a pet/companion will be sold under the following conditions:
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I will guarantee that the kitten/cat is in good health at the time of sale.
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I will urge the purchaser to have the kitten/cat examined by the purchaser’s own veterinarian within a few days of purchase to confirm its good health.
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I will require that the kitten be spayed or neutered NO LATER THAN 12 months of age and not be allowed to produce any offspring.
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I will explain to the purchaser the dangers of an outdoor environment.
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I will provide a written sales agreement that describes all the terms of the sale. I will abide by my own sales agreement.
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I will provide the TICA registration application form and/or pedigree for the kitten/cat ONLY after I have received written evidence from a licensed veterinarian that the kitten/cat has been altered.
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I will encourage the purchaser to contact me if the purchaser has any questions and I will respond in a timely manner.
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I will not release a kitten until it has been inoculated at least twice against the following: Panleukopenia, Feline Rhinotracheitis, and Calicivirus. I also may choose to give other vaccinations.
I have read and agree to abide by the above Voluntary Code of Ethics
RFCI
Printable Code of Conduct COC
for RAGDOLL FANCIERS CLUB INTERNATIONAL ( R.F.C.I.) This is Addendum II as referred to in Article XXVIII - Code of Conduct

of the R.F.C.I. By-laws
A Members Guide to Ethical Cattery Management
This Code of Conduct is intended as a guideline for our Breeder Members. The recommendations and practices set forth in this Code of Conduct are to be considered a model of ethical breeding practices, and should be followed as routine whenever possible. It is understood that in rare circumstances special situations may present themselves to a member, where these guidelines are not met, and then RFCI recommends using sound judgment.

It is also understood that some breeder members may put into practice even higher ideals in their own breeding programs, and for this they should be commended. This Code of Conduct set forth is not meant to police our Breeder Members, and should not be used as such.

In the breeding of Ragdolls, I will emphasize good health, stable temperament, and breed for appearance to meet the Ragdoll Standard

My Ragdolls will exhibit no radical departure from the Ragdoll standard.

I agree to protect the Ragdoll reputation by employing responsible personal, social and business practices.

I agree to understand and follow any municipal, community or local requirements regarding the housing, registering or selling of my Ragdolls.

I agree that when attending shows, I will be aware of and abide by the rules and customs that govern each show, whether I am a spectator or an exhibitor.

I will behave at all times in a respectful manner that will reflect positively on myself, the Ragdoll Cat and RFCI. I will view success as a concern secondary to the health and well-being of the Ragdoll and to my relationship with others among the cat fancy and RFCI.

I will keep accurate records of all pedigrees and breedings.

I will register all kittens with at least one major cat association.

I will provide registration papers within a timely manner of all sales.

I will plan and implement a breeding program with the preservation and protection of the breed being foremost.

I will breed discriminately, making sure that I am able to find good homes for all of my kittens. I will emphasize quality not quantity.

My breeding Ragdolls will be kept free from disease and genetic defects to the best of my and my veterinarian’s ability. A cat who exhibits chronic illness or poor health should not be bred.

I will consult a qualified veterinarian or geneticist if an inherited problem is suspected. I will report all findings with breeders who have purchased breeding stock from me that may be affected by the findings, as well as I will report all findings to the breeder of the affected cat.

I will whenever possible request necropsy (autopsy) on any kitten or cat that dies suspiciously.

I will only breed my cats when they are in good health and of good weight and condition. It is strongly suggested that a female not be bred before 12 months of age, unless she has had frequent heat cycles that are affecting her health and condition. It is recommended to not breed a female too frequently but give ample time in between litters for her to regain her weight and condition.

It is recommended to not over breed a male, so he is able to maintain a healthy weight and condition.

It is recommended that breeding cats be altered and retired at an age appropriate for their health and well-being.

I will provide proper care for the safe and healthy delivery of kittens, and will, whenever possible, be available to assist the queen if necessary. I will consult with a veterinarian at the first sign of difficulty.

I will provide sufficient socialization for kittens, as well as assess their individual temperament so they go into their new homes suited to that situation.

I will represent the Ragdoll cat realistically, doing my best to dispel past myths propagated to qualify the Ragdoll as a scientific phenomenon, such as they don’t’ feel pain, or they never shed, or they always go limp when held, or they consistently reach tremendous sizes. Instead I will describe the Ragdoll qualities in an accurate manner, addressing unrealistic expectations with factual descriptions.

I will not place a kitten younger than 10 weeks of age, and recognize that 12 weeks or older is recommended.

I will maintain a high standard of health and care for all of my Ragdolls, by providing adequate room for exercise & play. I will provide clean and comfortable quarters with adequate ventilation and lighting. I will provide a balanced quality diet with clean water and litter. I will provide my Ragdolls with regular vaccinations and veterinary care. I will give my cats daily care and affection.

I will house my cats in a manner that minimizes the risk of accidental breeding or aggressive behavior between cats.

I will not allow a cat to run loose outdoors. If I provide an outdoor run, I will make sure the cat has proper protection from the elements, parasites and other animals the cat might be exposed to.

I will not declaw my Ragdolls and will advise against it to my buyers. I will explain my opposition to this practice and make recommendations on how to prevent the cats from undesirable behavior.

I will not sell any Ragdoll to a pet store, or knowingly to a backyard breeder or kitten mill. Or any breeder who exhibits lack of ethical treatment to their Ragdolls.

I will sell all pet kittens either having been altered, or with a strict altering agreement as stated in the RFCI’s by-laws.

Early Spay/Neuter is Highly recommended and should be done if at all possible before the kitten leaves your cattery

I will conduct all sales in a professional manner designed to protect the health and welfare of the cat.

I will include a written contract with all kitten or cat sales transactions, leasing agreements and stud services, with both parties having a copy.

I will include in my written contract the minimum specifics as listed in the by-laws of RFCI.

I will explain the difference between pet, show and breeder quality, before selling any kitten. This explanation could be included on my website, or any information that I use to educate buyers about my kittens.

I will carefully evaluate any kitten being considered as a breeder or a show/breeder, and discuss all qualities and traits with the potential owner prior to the sale. I will disclose the pedigree before the sale is final.

When selling a breeding cat, I will fully explain the pedigree, registration numbers, any inbreeding, and any outcross that I am aware of. I will include the minimum of a three-generation pedigree, although a five generation pedigree is strongly recommended.

I understand that it is recommended that breeders have a 5 generation pedigree on all of their breeding cats, with Certified Pedigrees whenever possible.

I will be available to help all newly established breeders that I place any breeding cat with, for mentoring, support and guidance.

I will contact the breeder of any cat I plan to retire from my breeding program. I will follow the breeder's policy for re-homing the cat, and give full disclosure to the breeder of the new owners. If there is no previous agreement for the re-homing of this cat, I will together with the breeder decide what is in the best interest of the individual cat. If an agreement cannot be reached for re-homing, the cat will be altered and placed into a pet home.

I will do anything with in my power to aid in the safe re-homing of any Ragdoll of my breeding that is in need of rescue or placement.

I understand that all sales should be covered by a contract. I am free to have my own contract with more issues covered than the minimum requirements set forth in the RFCI bylaws. In the case that I have not used a contract or have less than the minimum required by RFCI, as found in the RFCI’s by-laws, I agree that any dispute will be settled by the Grievance Committee according to the contract requirements set forth in the RFCI by-laws.

Full sample contracts will be offered in the RFCI By-Laws, or can be found on the RFCI’s website, or are available through the Secretary for those who would like to use them.

I agree to use these Code of Conduct as a guideline in my breeding program, and consider them as a minimum ideal in the decisions and policies I make, always keeping in mind the welfare of my Ragdolls, the protection of the Ragdoll breed, and the rights of my customers. I agree to encourage and support RFCI and my fellow members in the following of these Codes of Conduct.

I acknowledge that I am 18 years of age or older _______ Yes (Please Checkmark)

I just wanted to let you know Lovemycats81---thank you for your suggestions and your expertise. I called TICA today to verify all requirements as a breeder. I have tested, but it is not a requirement with TICA---it is up to each individual breeder what kinds of test if individual breeder chooses to run on their breeders. I will start giving two shots, but IT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT WITH TICA. I also verified with TICA that it is not a requirement to have Ragdoll babies altered. Gloria of TICA stated these facts to me that all these options are up to the individual breeders. I just wanted to let you know what TICA stated to me in case there are any other breeders out there that people are complaining about not following (false TICA rules). I am making sure that I follow TICA rules, which I stated to Gloria of TICA. I did let Gloria know that the complaints from complaints board.com have all been turned over to my Attorney.

Thank you for your suggestions and your expertise. I will take your advice on some of the issues that you have mentioned, but have a difference of opinion one of the issues; but I still respect you for giving me your opinion. I just wanted you to know that you did state the facts wrong in your advice about TICA requiring two shots---I mean no disrepsect to you---I just wanted verification for myself since I was unsure if you were wrong or right in what you stated about the requirement of shots. Since I am improving various issues with my Cattery, I called TICA to verify many issues this afternoon with Gloria and did state to Gloria about all the various complaints that are mostly false, slanderous, defamation of character, and interference with my cattery business. I also did let Gloria of TICA know that I am licensed with the GA Dept of Agriculture and have had no bad reports from my State Inspector.

Once again, I would like to thank you for your time, expertise and your suggestions.

Respectfully Submitted,

Rosetta Bailey
Baileys Ragdolls
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I don't know rosetta or her cats. I have not met either. I was simply stating ethical breeding practice. If you follow it you will avoid a lot of this stuff. EVERYONE makes mistakes...but if someone doesn't point you in the right direction how are you going to know?

Do I care about the ragdoll breed...YES Do I care about the millions of kittens/cats put down each year because they don't have homes. YES. I don't care who is breeding what breed of cats. I personally think all breeders should be ethical and ensure the safety of their kittens and themselves. (case in point)
All you have to do is go on hoobly or the like and you will find ragdoll mixes and ragdolls without papers WHY...because people sell them unaltered as pets with a contract and HOPE they won't breed them. And then the people who buy them try to make a quick buck or just don't fix their pets.

Terribly sory if I offended people by posting what I felt could help them and cats, ie helpful information. I sure wish registries would require all of these practices to even register cats. That would weed a lot of people out and protect a lot of animals. The cats don't decide to be bred...we breed them. I personally feel morally responsible for not only my cats but the kittens they produce and what their futures hold.

So with all due respect forgive me for expressing my views and information on ethical breeding if it offended anyone.

In regards to champion lined cats (of any breed) being sold to new breeders. Situation like these are exactly why. People work hard to breed cats that look/conform to the standards. They educate themselves, they show their cats, and try to promote and protect them and the futures of the breeds. If you sell one of your breeding cats to the wrong person both they and their offspring could end up being in either a kitten mill or simply adding to the over popualtion of animals or worse. And guess what. As a breeder you have to make those choices and either do the right thing or not. There is a breed standard for a reason...not any two animals should be bred. It's important to learn about the breed and the standard. You do that by going to shows and seeing lots and lots and lots of examples of what the breed should and should not be.

The only way to really evaluate your breeding cats/kittens is to take them out and see how they hold up to the standard.

You also meet other breeders, and learn along the way

Im not perfect...my cats aren't perfect, and I make mistakes. So does everyone else. But you can certainly save a whole lot of time and trouble by following some guide lines. All breeders should...and no...sadly all don't nor will they.

There are plenty of good people who start out with bad practices because they don't know...and sometimes they learn the hard way or not at all. I am speaking IN GENERAL. I made plenty of mistakes and LEARNED from them. ...some the hard way.

And I certainly have no desire to call someone that threatens to sue me for posting a COMMENT on ethics.

Good luck to all involved.

I learned that my opinion doesn't matter to some people and makes others mad. SO...I will just keep them to myself and try my best to educate those that will listen or care to listen to help them avoid trouble for them or their cats.

At the end of the day its the CATS THAT DEPEND ON US. And I don't care who you are...they are innocent lives that depend on us. As breeders we ALL need to think of that and try to help other breeders see it as well.

I have changed a lot of my policies in regards to my Ragdoll breeding program such as nobody will be allowed to even visit my kittens until they have at least had their first set of shots. No kitten will leave my home now before 11-12 weeks and will have two sets of shots. I will give one set and I will have my Vet give the other set with a vet check. No, I am not a Vet; but I know fully well how to give a shot as numerous other breeders give their own shots. There are numerous other breeders in Georgia, the US and throughout the world that give all their shots so hopefully nobody will complain on this website now about me starting to give one set of shots and the second set of shots by my Vet that will be fully documented.

Yes, I had some surgeries last year; but I am fine now. There is another breeder in GA (will not list a name) that had numerous surgeries and she has not quit breeding. It is not anyone's business whether I stop breeding or not. At long as I am licensed with the Georgia Department of Agriculture, I have my kittens vet checked and their shots; then it is my business to continue breeding Ragdolls. If you want to label me as a back yard breeder, then that is your opinion and your business. I have turned over all your complaints on this website in writing to my Attorney and my Attorney will also be dealing with this web hosting company for "defamation of character", "Interference of my cattery business" and there are other things that are associated with these complaints.

As far as testing goes, I just spent over $1, 500 dollars having every single one of my breeders tested; but that is also my business. Also, I will list no cattery names or no breeders; but there are catteries that have actually been shut down for various reasons in Georgia and re-opened and they know who they are (some of which people are actually taking up for) so I would be extremely careful what you say about me and my Cattery since you all seem to be bent on trying to ruin my reputation, ruin my business, deface my character, and interference with my business.

One person stated that I was on a "power trip" because I hired an Attorney, but if it means protecting my business and my Ragdolls; then I feel as if I have no choice but to hire an Attorney to protect my business, my Ragdoll breeders, my name and my Ragdoll babies. What would the other breeders do that people are taking up for do if people were trying to deface their character. Well, I certainly do not think that they would sit around and take it---I think that they would also be forced to hire an Attorney to protect their business.

I am sure if everything was absolutely perfect in my cattery that some of you would still have complaints because there are some of you who have made these complaints that are working with a few breeders in my opinion from my knowledge of some things that have happened recently, but I will list no names on this complaints board.com because you know who you are and you also know what breeders you are supporting or taking up for. In my opinion, some of you do not try to give advice as this last person did; you are defacing my character, try to make trouble for my business and defacing character, slander, interference with my business can all be factors of being liable for a lawsuit.

Just like one of the complaints was that my cattery was not clean and was smelly----well, the Georgia Department of Agriculture certainly disagrees with this statement. That person who made the statement sat down on the floor in my cattery for over three hours and played with my Ragdoll babies. My cattery is spotless, extremely clean and does not smell bad. Here is what a customer just sent to me in an email, which I will not list a name: Your home and the cleanliness of the beautiful animals is superb. This comment came to me through an email this past Tuesday. I have numerous emails with comments like this concerning my home and the condition of my cattery being excellent.

Thank you for your expertise and advise on becoming a better cattery. I am making lots of improvements for my Ragdolls, my breeding program and for Baileys Ragdolls. There are numerous breeders out there not following the TICA rules, but it seems like people want to focus entirely on me so that is why I have turned all the comments made on this website over to my Attorney. My Attorney can get each IP Address for all the comments if this vindictive behavior continues. Nothing in the end is truly private when posting information on this or any other website.

Another change that has been made to my cattery and my breeding program---anyone wanting to purchase a Ragdoll from me will be required to give references and I have been instructed from the GA Dept of Agriculture to take down each person's drivers license number when they write a check for a deposit. After the deposit is taken, then the customer will be required to pay cash, money order, certified check or cashier's check for the balance of the kitten when picking up the kitten as I am sure numerous other breeders have this same policy since there is always a possibility of receiving a bad check.

Instead of posting everything negative, why don't you actually call me or send me an email with your suggestions and deal with me directly, your comments or any expertise advice that you may have for me are more than welcome by me in private. If I feel the suggestions are excellent advice, then I will be happy to follow your advise. [protected] or [protected]. Also, I have numerous customers that are "extremely happy" with their Ragdolls that they have purchased from me. I have a health guarantee that is written in my contract just like the rest of the Ragdoll breeders.

If I got on this Complaints Board.com and filled everyone in on what I actually know about a lot of Ragdoll breeders, people would be totally shocked; but it is not any of my business how every other breeder runs their business, runs their Ragdoll cattery or any breeding program for that matter ----it is left up to the GA Dept of Agriculture in Georgia and other States may have different or similar rules. If I have a problem with any breeders, I will address the problems directly with the breeder and not on this Complaints Board.com.

I have excellent reports and records through the Georgia Department of Agriculture---it is public knowledge if anyone would like to call the Georgia Department of Agriculture for my reports. My State Inspector was so disgusted with what is going on that he advised me to place a rebuttal and give everyone his cell number to call him personally. It is public knowledge for anyone to receive any report about any breeder---not just my breeding program, but all breeders who are licensed through the GA Dept of Agriculture. I know of people who are breeding and are not even licensed, but once again; it is not my business. As long as I am following the rules with the GA Dept of Agriculture, then that is what I care about.

As mentioned above, try common courtesty or try having enough respect that if you have expert advise that you would like to give to me, then call me or email me in private instead of setting yourselves up for a lawsuit. I will not be upset with anyone for taking the approach of giving me their expertise, their advise, or whatever they would like to teach me in private.

If anyone has questions, please feel free to email or call me. My email address is baileysrags@gmail.com My phone numbers are listed above.

Thank you and Respectfully Submitted,

Rosetta Bailey
Bailey's Ragdolls
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After a 30 year career in Oil and Gas I wanted to retire and finally have the time to show and breed Ragdolls. We purchased an altered female 5 years ago and know they are the perfect indoor family cat. Three months ago I started contacting well known and respected breeders of Champion bloodline Ragdolls. I live in South Texas, so I contacted breeders from other states in the Northern U.S and in Sweden. I contacted 8 different breeders and no one would sell me a kitten at any price to start my breeding program. I was willing to pay several thousand dollars for a well bred, champion blood line kitten. I finally found Rosetta Bailey and Love Ragdolls. All of you who are writing these complaints are the ones who are creating the situation you are complaining about. I puchased a beautiful, healthy kitten from Love Ragdolls and I am going to purchase several more from Rosetta. If I receive a sick kitten, then I will deal with the breeder personally, rather than on this website. Every single one of you has committed "liable" and if I were you I would be finding a good attorney, because you have set yourselves up for a huge defamation lawsuit.

sorry I sent that from my phone and there were some errors.

It should have said that if you are ill STOP BREEDING. If you can't care for yourself you certainly can't care for your cats. I am not trying to be rude I am just stating some facts on ethical breeding.

If its so cheap to early alter where you live you might want to do yourself and your cats a favor (not to mention the breed) and have them fixed BFORE they leave your home.

Anyone can breed cats and sell them...but not everyone should or is doing it for the right reasons. There are MILIONS of cats being put down every year because there are not enough homes for them. Sending unaltered cats from YOUR breeding to homes CAN and WILL result in breedings and I don't care what contract you have. Some people are dishonest. So as a breeder you need to do the right thing and get them altered and vaccinated IF you care about your cats and their future. Otherwise YOUR CATS are going to end up in shelters, dead, or worse.

To sum this all up. You need to take better care of YOUR CATS AND YOUR BREEDING PROGRAM. If you simply don't know how to keep accurate records on kittens that DEPEND ON YOU then please for the sake of those kittens and their future GET A MENTOR. They can also direct you to where and how to have your breeders tested for the DEADLY HCM.

Perhaps its time for you to take a step back and either clean it up or give it up. With your current standard you are doing the ragdolls a huge disservice. With practices like these you are sure to have many more unhappy customers

If you love your cats, breeding, etc. THEN GREAT...its never too late to change your ways and become a better cattery for the cats and yourself...

backyard breeders are a dime a dozen and sadly its the cats that pay the price

Um...rosetta you aren't even following TICAs code of ethics. You DO NOT let a 9 week old kitten leave. And any reputable breeder keeps their paper work in order so when they sell a kitten ALL vet records are in order. Your cats should ALL have neg FIV and HCM tests if you are breeding them. Why would you EVER breed a cat without knowing they are healthy when there are tests to prevent heart break AND help the breed!
Shame on you for sending that baby away so early and with shots. Which by the way TICA ethics require 2 sets of shots.
You put the breed in danger, you kittens in danger, and I hope you clean up your act or stop breeding! FYI you might want to show your cats with TICA or CFA because you are NOT breeding to the standard and are robbing people selli g Ragdolls of such low quality.

You get what you pay for..buy from a breeder that CARES about the breed, shows their cats, knows the standards. Tests their cats, and early alters. Prices are 500 and up for much better cats and better care.

I sure hope you learn about more than checks! Try integrity. If you are I'll STOP BREEDING the poor cats can't take care of themselves!

I am disgusted

Hello everyone,

Speaking for myself, I have purchased two kittens from Rosetta Bailey, and I feel that she was not only honest and professional but also very generous and kind in her dealings with me.
About a month ago I contacted her because my husband and myself had fallen so in love with a rescue Ragdoll that we had aquired, and we desperately wanted another one. I had spent endless hours researching Ragdolls and breeders. I found Rosetta through Tica--an organization that demands hight standards of its breeders. Rosetta went out of her way to find me the Ragdoll that i wanted; however, during this time we lost our angel to cardiomyothepathy--we were devestated to say the least. Rosetta was extremely sympathetic and supportive and offered me a second kitten--not to replace our angel---but as a source of comfort. Since I was already buying one, she discounted the price on the second.
Thankfully, I bought them both: A beautiful flame-point male and a bicolor female. They bring us so much joy! We feel so priviledged to have them. My only problem has been wanting to spend so much time playing with them that I'm not getting to house-hold chores. However, we took them to our vet, they had no problems contacting Jefferson Animal Clinic, they had received proper care and our vet was and is very impressed with these two spirited and loving souls.
At this point I would like to address a couple of comments made: First of all Ragdolls are not "Freaks" T. Cicca. Yes, they are "rare and desirable, " as are all cats. However, they are a very special, loving breed. You would have to experience the joy of them to know what I'm talking about. Kimmie $450 is an excellent price for a Ragdoll. I don't think I would complaint about they cost of a routine vet check and shots for that price. You are not complaining about the quality of your Kitten--just money. I personally don't mind giving all of my animals the best vet care, food and anything else they need because they have more love and "unselfishness" than many humans I know.

See...now its coming up as a different name...if anyone can let me know how to edit a post on here...please do! This is the craziest board I have ever seen!

I have tried to get on here and edit my posting because I did not mean to name Ragzadazzle. I did not mean to come on her page and say something about Bailey. I went to the search and typed in baileys and this is what came up. Maybe I was looking at it and typed in ragzadazzle on accident...not sure. I have not been able to figure this board out...and now it says Im not registered. To set things straight...I have never met ragzadazzle...so please accept my apology. No, Im not friends with any breeder around here, but I can say that Stephanie at Pinkertons is very nice, answers your questions, and does what she says she is going to. As for the other breeder...I will not mention anymore names on here...because of defense mechanisms. hahaha Yes, I researched almost every breeder not only in Georgia but in neighboring states as well when I decided to get a ragdoll. Rosetta...the only reason Im posting on here is to apologize to Ragsadazzle, definitely not to you. I would never get a cat or kitten from you because I know way too much about the way you try to do business. You are on a power trip, where you feel like you have to threaten everyone with a lawsuit, while you throw your "Christian" ways around. You threatened me with a lawsuit, and I didn't even get a kitten from you. You have done many many people wrong, and all I can say is I hope they don't get together and start their wheels turning, or you might just find yourself in a class action lawsuit. This is the last post I will be posting on here, and to whomever said that about Elaine Williams (which once again, Im sorry, I have never met her) not posting...lol, she is the smartest one around by not posting!

Rosetta if your going to make comments make sure you are telling the whole. The check I gave at your request was post dated. The money was not in the account because that why people POST DATE a check. Be honest Rosetta!

This customer ended up being extremely dishonest, rude and possibly dangerous. I tried to help her out because she had gone to another breeder and placed a deposit on a kitten and ended up not getting their kitten. I have numerous emails of proof that I have kept every single email from her that will prove she pursued me to purchase a kitten at $500 dollars for a flame colorpoint traditional. She stated that she had financial problems and could not afford the kitten that she had put a deposit down on since that breeder had gone up on the kitten. The check that she wrote to me turned out to be a bad check---the funds were not in her bank when I called the bank to see if the funds were in the bank so I turned it over to my Attorney. I evidently used poor judgement in selecting this customer to purchase my Ragdoll kitten. I did reduce the kitten from $600 to $500 plus I met her an hour away to save her time and gas money. It seems that sometimes the nicer we are to some people, then people will find our "kindness to be weakness".

I have worked out deals with at least ten people over the past few months allowing them to make payments and thankfully, it has worked out with these people so there are still some really honest and descent people left in the world---thank God!

Yes, I actually did forget to get this litter vet checked and sent emails to the other customers and offered to pay them for their first set of shots and a vet check although it is not required by law to do so. I went through six surgeries last year so it was my fault when I did not get this kitten's shot, but I have numerous emails offering this customer to pay $50 dollars for a shot and a vet check. I told her to have her Vet call me for a visa debit number, but she wanted the money herself and I refused to give her my visa debit number since I did not trust her since her check turned out to be bad. Breeders should deal in cash only then we would not have to deal with hiring an Attorney to get our money. This is the only litter that I have ever forgotten in the seven years that I have been breeding----excuse me for not being perfect. I offered her $50 dollars to have her kitten vet checked and the shot done and I have numerous emails to prove just how many times I offered her the money and I have all the emails to prove how many times that I apologized over and over to her, but she went balistic on me; which in my opinion this woman could have turned out to be extremely dangerous.

When she stopped payment on the check, then that is when I hired an Attorney and yes, it was definitely worth the money to hire an Attorney because it is principle to me for a customer to do the right thing and not write a bad check so this is exactly why breeders refuse to take checks and want only cash when picking up the kitten since it is a lot of hard work to breed kittens. Yes, I have most definitely learned my lesson in taking checks when releasing a kitten---it will not happen again. I no longer will take any checks when anyone is picking up a kitten since there are dishonest people out there---times are evidently really hard for a lot of people with customer's writing bad checks.

If there are any customers or breeders that think that I do not get a comprehensive vet exam for the kittens for $14.00 per kitten ----then take your kittens to Jefferson Animal Hospital for a litter rate and Dr. Steve Breeding and also there at least three other Vets who examines the kitten in detail, de-worms them with strong id and gives them their first set of shots for $14.00. Jefferson Animal Hospital's phone number is [protected] if there are any breeders interested in this price or would like to request proof that Jefferson Animal Hospital does provide a comprehensive exam for this price, but this price is only given to litter rates and not the general population. I deworm my kittens every two weeks with strong id that I purchase from several vet supply locations. Also, for the BREEDERS out there who alter their kitten before they leave; Jefferson Animal Hospital does accept the certificate from www.spaygeorgia.org. The price use to be $27 for neutering and $45 for spaying, but I am not up to date on the prices now so anyone can go to this site and call for pricing.

I would rather lower the price of the kitten than take a check for a final payment than to have to hire an Attorney to collect what is owed to me and what was an agreement to be paid.

If anyone has any questions, please feel free to call me at [protected] (cell) or my home number is [protected]. Beware of some customers---there are a lot of good and honest customers out there wanting to purchase Ragdoll kittens, but be careful of some of the customers because they will end up being extremely bad trouble makers and want the kitten for free if you will give it to them for free. Ragdolls are expensive to breed and raise if a breeder feeds them excellent food, vitamins, shots, vet checks, vet bills, and excellent litter, etc. My prices are descent and I will always keep my prices descent so that customers can afford a Ragdoll.

I did not give this customer many reasons why I did not take the litter to the Vet. I told this customer that I had several surgeries last year, which was the truth. I had two tumors removed, surgery done in March, two surgeries done on Oct 12, two surgeries done on Dec 28 and was honest with her, but when she called me; she cursed me---screamed at me and went ballistic --- stop payment on the check and other things as well so BREEDERS BEWARE! I have hospital records to prove these surgeries. Due to my medical problems and all the surgeries that I had last year is the reason that I stated that I was downsizing if anyone would like an adult pet, please let me know. I have already petted out several of my breeders. There are two stories to all sides of a deal. I can provide hundreds of emails of happy customers, but we as BREEDERS will not make every single person happy or if there are breeders who make 100% of everyone happy, please let me know.

I honestly thought that I had taken this litter to the Vet, but when I found out that I had not; then I apologized to her over and over plus offered to pay her $50 dollars, but she basically wanted the kitten for free. I have proof that I provided to my Attorney of all her emails where I apologize to her and offered her money for the Vet check and the first set of shots, but she wanted me as a breeder to be responsible from numerous other tests that breeders as a general rule do not take care of. If I had not hired an Attorney, then she would have gotten the kitten for practically free so we as breeders when we meet someone need to BEWARE BREEDERS and make sure that you get all your money up front because one the have the kitten, some people will not pay unless you hire an Attorney to collect the money. If she would have been a descent and kind person, then I would have given her the kitten and would have possibly given her even another kitten for the mistake that I admitted to making, but she turned out to be nothing but a trouble maker and she thought that I would not hire an Attorney, but I would have rather for the Attorney to have the money than for her to not pay what she owed and agreed to.

Just like there was a breeder who got a gun and a knife pulled on them so we all as breeders need to BEWARE and be CAREFUL!

I now screen my customers and request references since there are some people in this world that we cannot trust. Also, if there are any breeders who takes any checks; you had better get their driver's license number, home address and phone number since you may end up needing it to collect. I hope that if there are any breeders out there taking checks for the final payment that they will learn from my mistake. It is truly sad that we cannot trust people now days to write us a check and the check turn out to be good or for a breeder to have to go through so such an ordeal to collect what is owed to them.

Paypal is generally a fairly safe way to collect for a deposit or collect for the kitten, but I have found out if the customer does the paypal from their credit card instead of a debit card or an electronic check; then the customer can have the credit card company collect the money even after the customer has the kitten so once again----BREEDERS BEWARE. Gosh, it seems like I learn something new every single day as a breeder from my experiences in life and hope that perhaps someone else can learn from some of my experiences as a breeder.

Respectfully Submitted,

Rosetta Bailey
Baileys Ragdolls
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I also purchased a ragdoll from Rosetta Bailey.` I found her to be a very nice person when speaking to her on the phone. I had been taken advantage of by another ragdoll breeder so I was very cautious when searching for another breeder to purchase a ragdoll from. Rosetta answered all of my questions however I sent her an email explaining that at this point because of the lack of trust of breeders I was not going to purchase a ragdoll from her and that I needed time to really think about it. Rosetta then sent me emails and called me several times saying that she would drop the price and that she really wanted me to purchase a ragdoll from her. She is the one that persued me I did not persue her after I told her that I did not want a ragdoll at this time. She kept lowering the price so I finally said OK. The kitten was born on Jan 3, 2011 and she was willing to let the kitten leave on March 12, 2011. You do the math but that would have been a little over 9 weeks. I met Rosetta in Georgia on March 19, 2011. She brought the kitten however, "FORGOT" to bring the kitten package that she said she providesfor the kitten. Also, she was suppose to bring the kittens shot records which she said she "FORGOT". I got the name of her vet so I could get the shot record. I called her vet and according to them Mitzi's last litter was in 9/10. There no record of Mitzi having a litter in January! When I called Rosetta I was very upset because I thought I had been taken advantage of again. All Rosetta could say was that I forgot. She "FORGOT" to take a WHOLE LITTER to the vet! How can that be possible for a BREEDER to FORGET. However, she did offer me $14.00 to take the kitten to my vet! You must be delusional to think that a vet will do a comprehensive (because it's the kittens first visit) and shots all for $14.00. How insulting. She gave many reasons why she forgot to get the whole litter seen by a vet. She also said she had surgery in December. What does that have to do with taking responsibility as a breeder to have these beautiful innocent kittens seen by a vet. I wanted her to take full responsibility and pay for the vet bill. After several phone calls and emails she did agree (I feel reluctantly) to pay $50.00 for the vet bill. My vet bill was $81.45.I put a stop payment on my final balance. She did say that she wormed the kitten but I could not believe her because of what had happened with the vet. Maybe she did but how did I truly know that. I deducted what my vet bill was from the balance I owed her. She immediately sicked her lawyer on me. Apparently, I am not the only one. Threats of being sued and emails from her lawyer would not discourage me from doing what I had to do. Also, per the lawyer it is illegal in the state of Georgia to post date a check. LET ME TELL YOU THAT WAS ROSETTA'S IDEA NOT MINE! So apparently I was being sued for something that she encouraged me to do. Maybe she should look up the laws in the state of Georgia before she sicks her lawyer on another innocent victim. Rosetta did cash the final check that I sent(minus the vet fees) on 4/8. I truly hope that nobody has to go through this kind of ordeal in order to get a beautiful and glorious ragdoll. Enough said! Case closed!

If anyone believes such trashy statements and lies concerning my home and my Cattery (Baileys Ragdolls), then please by all means call my Georgia Department of Agriculture State Inspector. His name is Mike Lurey. I have spoke with Mike in detail about everything on this website, which he disagrees with. Mike ask that I put up a rebuttal and Mike specifically stated that if anyone has a problem to please call him on his cell phone at [protected]. If you would rather call the GA Dept of Agriculture main number, then that number is [protected]. I am licensed and inspected like every other Ragdoll breeder should be in Georgia if they are licensed with the GA Dept of Agriculture. There are some states that do not require for the breeder to be licensed with their State such as Florida, but then there are other regulations that you could look up under the specific states rules and regulations. Florida requires all their breeders to get a health certificate before allowing the kitten to be sold. As far as getting my Cattery shut down through the USDA, Mike said that will not happen unless I sell cats or kittens to a petstore; which I have never done and never will do. I generaly have my kittens vet checked and have the Vet give their immunizations instead of me giving the shots myself since there are some customers out there that will want the documentation from a Vet instead of the breeder giving the shot, but that is and should be left up to each individual breeder to what they want to do as far as giving the shot or taking the kitten to the Vet. There are a lot of breeders out there that are great at giving their own shots---the important issue is that the kitten does receive the immunization that is needed for their health. If I need to get an Attorney for slander, then I will take this to Court and Mike will testify on my behalf was he has seen in my cattery. I had one customer call and complain because her cat had a cold, Mike came and checked everything out. I have the report from Mike Lurey, the GA Dept of Agriculture and the report is absolutely perfect if anyone would like to see the report; then I would be happy to scan the report and email the report to you. I had no sick kittens and my cattery was spotless with no odor when Mike came, which is in the report; not to say that I have never had a sick Ragdoll. In my opinion almost every single breeder in GA or any state for that fact has had sick kittens with the URI, diarrhea, and eye infections unless they have perfect kittens and a perfect cattery and my opinion that will not happen with any breeder; but the most important thing is if the breeder will take the kitten to the Vet and get prescription medication to treat the kitten or kittens. I have medication in my drawer and the medication is prescripiton plus I also have de-worming medication from Revival. At least I am treating my kittens if and when they are sick instead of letting them all die not to say that in all the years that I have breen breeding that there have been no kittens to die. I think generally speaking (my opinion) that all breeders have had a kitten while breeding to die, but the important thing for all of us breeders to do is to take the kittens to the Vet if they get sick and spend whatever money necessary to make sure that the kitten or kittens do not die. You may want to call the breeder in Milton, GA stupid, which I feel in my opinion is extremely mean; but she is an extremely smart lady, owns a daycare and has very nice Ragdolls from what I have seen. As far as the customers bashing Elaine of Ragsadazzle, I have personally seen Elaine's home and her home was clean. As far as the TICA paperwork goes, TICA can sometimes be extremely slow and as the customer stated that she did receive her TICA paperwork. Is there any breeders out there that are not bashed. I feel that it is such a pity that this goes on considering that there are plenty of customers to go around for every single one of us breeders. The one thing that the USDA will shut breeders down for is if it can be proven that a breeder is selling to Petstores without a wholesale license. I have never sold to a petstore and never will. One of the prospective clients who came to my home last summer who stated that she wanted to rescue a cat got upset because I would not give her the mink cat for free. This customer ask me before she came to my home if I caged any of my Moms, I told her yes; which I do cage when they are getting ready to have their babies --- if any of you do not believe in this; then you are entitled to your opinion, but at least my babies are protected and the GA Dept of Agriculture has stated that there is no limit on Ragdolls as long as they are being well taken care of. I personally find that if you give someone a free Ragdoll, then they generally speaking (only some people) do not take care of the cat. Since some people have specifically think that I let my Ragdoll babies leave too early, then no Ragdoll kitten will now be allowed to leave my cattery earlier than 11-12 weeks. If anyone still thinks that is too early, then they are entitled to their opinion. I have placed it on my website that no kitten will leave before 11-12 weeks and that means NO EXCEPTIONS. Yes, Kim could possibly now be a friend of Pinkertons is why all the other breeders are being bashed. I have not personally been to Pinkerton's, but I have spoken to the owner of Pinkertons several times and they seem very nice and love their Ragdolls. Yes, I am friends with Cokls Ragdolls. Cokls Ragdolls has extremely nice kittens. They are pretty, sweet, healthy and affectionate as are my kittens. I am friends with a breeder who actually had a gun and a knife pulled on them around Christmas so I would suggest or only my recommendations is that all breeders everywhere be careful who they let in their homes. If anyone has any questions about any of these complaints, as stated; please feel free to call my GA Dept of Agriculture State Inspector, Mike Luery or you are also welcome to call me at [protected]-cell and my home number is [protected]. I had a customer in Jefferson who got upset because I would not take back their two year old Flame mink male Ragdoll that was spraying up his house. I cannot take a spraying male into my home so if anyone thinks that I am a bad breeder because of this, then you are entitled to your opinion. I also had a customer in Jefferson that got upset because I turned them over to my Attorney for a bad check. I will no longer take checks except for the deposit because although I like to believe that everyone is nice out in this world of ours, there are some extremely dishonest people. I will not state any names, but there are other breeders that have had the GA Dept of Agriculture called on them for various reasons. All it takes to get the GA Dept of Agriculture called on you is to get a customer who is upset about something or they take up for another breeder. If anyone has any questions regarding my cattery, my Ragdoll kittens, my Ragdoll cats, my home, etc; please feel free to give me a call. I do not claim to be perfect, but I do everything in my power to have healthy, sweet, loving and beautiful Ragdoll babies. If you do not like my Ragdoll babies, then you are welcome to visit any Ragdoll breeder in GA or any other state. My Ragdolls are priced excellent. You are welcome to send me an email for the contract as my contract was drawn up by an Attorney in Cumming, GA. I will do everything in my power to make sure that I do what I feel is best for my Ragdolls. Please feel free to contact me via email at baileysrags@gmail.com or call me at the numbers listed in this rebuttal. I will be downsizing and NO, I am not going out of business. I am downsizing due to some health issues and I want to be smaller to produce even more beautiful, sweet, loving and affectionate Ragdolls. When you visit my cattery, if you have any complaints or suggestions; please feel free to let me know instead of slandering my name, my cattery name. If you have any suggestions, I will be happy to possibly take them into consideration if the suggestion is worthy of making my cattery better for my Ragdolls. I will be petting out some adult Ragdolls if anyone is interested. I have already petted out two adult Ragdolls this week. I have well over 100 emails of happy customers. Is there any breeder out there that will have 100% happy customers. I have had complaints from my customers about various breeders and I personally do not want to hear it. If you cannot state good things about people, then I do not want to hear anything at all. I also would prefer to focus on positive engery versus all this negativity that is going on among various breeders or various people. As stated above, I personally (my opinion) recommend that you be careful whom you let in your home as I had a breeder friend have a gun and a knife pulled on them. Do not ask me what breeder this was because this information is confidential to protect this person---just be careful of some people. There are a lot of wonderful and special people in the world to who love and respect Ragdolls and the Ragdoll breeders---just make sure that anyone should use excellent judgment. Once again, as stated above; I do not claim to be perfect----of course, I do everything in my power to make sure that my Ragdolls and babies are well taken care of. Everyone will not agree with each other's business practice, but each one of us has to do business and breed our Ragdolls how we feel is correct and it should not be anyone's business unless the GA Dept of Agriculture State Inspector has a problem with a specific breeder or cattery; then they will most definitely intervene. I will not answer any rebuttals on this site. If you have a concern or a rebuttal, then you will need to email me or call me. Respectfully Submitted, Rosetta Bailey of Baileys Ragdolls

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By the way, I dont see any of you posting anything negative under Baileys Ragdolls or Cokl's (which I spelled Corkles) or Southern Ragdolls. Kim, since you are visiting all the ragdoll breeders in GA, did you go to the new breeder in Milton, GA. Crabapple Ragdolls. She STUPID!

I purchased two ragdoll kittens from Elegant Rags, now named Lovely Ragdolls and ended up having to put them down because they had FIP. They also came to me with ringworm and infected my three children. Last Summer, despite what I read here I went to see Elaine's kittens. I called her and was able to come right away. I arrived in about 45 minutes after speaking with her. Her house was nice and clean. It did not smell at all. I had been to Bailey's ragdolls and did not stay long. She has cages stacked on top of another. Several mothers in the same room with litters and litters of kittens. They were kept in a large closet. Rosetta was so impressed with herself, she kept telling me, "Isnt my house clean? You cant smell that I have so many cats, can you?" Well, Rosetta's house stunk! I wanted to purchase one of her kittens, just to RESCUE it, but I didnt. Anyway, Elaine's kittens were more beautiful in person! I stayed for over an hour and placed a deposit on two siblings that were 7 weeks old. I tried to get Elaine to let me have them early, as I assured her I would make sure they ate, but she declined. Her contract does not state that you have to give the Nuvet or feed the food she does. You guys are wrong! She recommends it, but it is not part of her health guarantee. After reading what all of you have written here and meeting Elaine in person, I am so glad that I didnt take your advise. My kittens are wonderful! Yes, she does charge more, but her kittens are worth it! If you dont want to pay her price, then do what I did, buy a sick kitten and end up spending more time and money at the vet, then end up with no kittens at all! What I paid for in sick kittens from Lovely Ragdolls and the vet bills were less than what I paid for my kittens from Elaine. After seeing Bailey's Ragdolls, they are the worst looking kittens I have ever seen. Rosetta picked up two of her kittens while I was there are wiped their eyes, saying, oh kitty you need antibiotics. She has a drawer full of medication. She yells are her grandchildren and forbids them to handle the kittens. Elaine's daughter, Morgan is adorable. She is great with the kittens. Her dogs, are great too! I think most of you are breeders yourself and just want to harm others because they are competition. Who cares, Kim if a breeder has ragdolls that are traced back? The original line is extinct now. The important thing is that Ragsadazzle and Elaine has healthy beautiful kittens. I would understand if you were a breeder, which you must be, that is why you want to "shut them down"! I just wanted a healthy, loving and beautiful registered ragdoll and that is exactly what I got from Elaine. Also, Elaine told me when I placed the deposits on the two kittens, that she did not have the registration papers back from TICA and hoped that they would arrive in the next couple of weeks. When I came to pick up my babies, she had the papers! Elaine kept me up to date with pictures and quickly replied to all my emails. Im just wondering Kim are you a friend of Pinkerton or are you Pinkerton? That website is crazy! I dont see that you wrote anything about Corkles, she's a friend of Rosetta. Which by the way, Rosetta said mean things about Corkles and Ragsadazzle to me while I was there and I didnt even ask. I would bet all of you are breeders that are probably using fake names. Kim, do you not have anything better to do than to waste their time and cause trouble? Rosetta will go out of business on her own.

All I am saying here on this site...is I have visited all these catteries.. and have made the appropriate complaints to do what I can to shut Bailey's Ragdolls down. I have more than enough victims of this cattery. Ragsadazzle...is next. Got several for them as well.

The ragdolls that are solids and minks and traditionals are all true ragdolls. I completely agree that Baileys and Ragsadazzle are not good breeders. They can't trace back the history of the ragdoll you want to buy. I saw Rosetta Bailey grab a kitten by the tail as it tried to escape. She had atlease 20 kittens running around that she was selling cheap and 9 pregnant females in cages to have more. I have complained to the USDA on Rosetta Bailey, as are a few others I have contacted. Now I am researching into Ragsadazzle, and getting the information to do the same thing :) Sorry Pinkerton...is the best cattery that I have seen around. STephanie Ingram can show you the ancestory on any kitten all the way back to the originals. My goal here is to SHUT DOWN ROSETTA BAILEY because of what I have seen and found out first hand.

I am beginning to think that all of the Ragdoll Breeders that I have met in the state of GA SUCK! You will know who you are if I have met you. My experience is personally with Bailey's Ragdolls and my experience was horrible... Bailey's Ragdolls is a smelly cattery that releases cats at too early of an age.

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A year ago I purchased my kitten from Elaine. My papers were not ready at the time of pick up, but were mailed shortly after. The shot records were emailed in a timely fashion. No complaints here. We are happy with our ragdoll. She is doing wonderful, and is as advertised. From Anna in Canton.

I understand your comments but the important imformation about every one of the Breeders you mentioned is the fact they are breeding and selling Variants of an accepted Breeds and are Marketing them as the Rarer versions. The fact remains most reputable and ethical Breeders don't breed or desire to produce them since they are Non-Standard and are from outcrossed resources.

My concern is they breed overpriced Ragdoll Breed Variants but you're also saying they void their written health contracts if a Pet Owner decides not to suppliment their cat with Nuvet Vitamins? That's the strangest thing I've heard of. I wonder if Ragsadazzle offers any health guarantee against HCM? Have their Breeding cats been tested negative for the 2 known HCM causing genes? Are Ragsadazzle kittens tested negative for HCM?

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Brenda? The same Brenda who buys and Breeds Mink Ragdolls too?

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Am I the only one who is not impressed with a "voluntary" inspection of Elaine's cattery Ragsadazzle! She knew they were coming. HA HA HA well hurry up & make everything perfect Elaine. What would you score with a SURPRISE inspection?

OOH did I just catch the "honest" Elaine Williams in another LIE! Just read what she wrote above. I do not give TICA papers with the retired breeders. OOH but then on her website she wrote..I do not sell retired breeders they stay here at my home as part of my family. Make up your mind Elaine do you or don't you?

RagsAdazzle's
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"The mink ragdoll is a line that can be traced back to the orginial Ragdolls
from Ann Baker. The mink Ragdoll has fur that feels like a ladies mink coat,
with richer more vibrant color than a traditional ragdoll and has gorgeous
aqua eyes. Mink have the same laid back personality as the traditional
Ragdoll. The mink ragdolls fur is softer, and thicker than the traditional
Ragdoll. Mink Ragdolls are born with their color, the traditional Ragdolls are
born white and develop their color after one week. Both Mink and Traditional
Ragdolls make excellent pets for any family. They are great with children and
other pets as well.

RagsAdazzle specialize in mink Ragdolls and mink Ragamuffins.

~Please visit our "Mink Kittens Available" to view the new babies~

Below are a few of our mink breeders, we hope that you enjoy our Ragdolls
and contact us with any questions. We look forward to speaking with you."

RAGSADAZZLE

Elaine? Who are your Mink RagaMuffins registered with and are you a Member of the RagaMuffin Associated Group? Or are you just misleading and confusing a whole bunch of poeple? What RagaMuffin Breeder did you purchase from?

Elaine Williams Wrote: "I do not sell "variant colors", my ragdolls are registered with TICA and the colors/patterns of my kittens are all true colors and patterns. Either you do not know what you are talking about or just have nothing better to do."

http://www.eiserblew.co.uk/ragamuffin.htm

It is your turn Elaine.

Ok just to clarify just mentioning a cattery on the comments does no harm at all. You can say anyone's name all day long in comment section & it never shows up. If you do a search for that name it may bring up the comment. But then you have a positive comment for them to read. However if you mention them in the complaint section it does then list their names. I guess he did think of that consequence! He may have done more good than harm after all.