Too bad that you feel this way. Obviously, YOUR parents did not teach you anything at all. Funny how people try to take advantage of children and that a 19 year old adult has to resort to punching a kid in the stomach. My son did not deserve this however, the hefty fine the instructor got, the handcuffs and the entire arrest that's on his record now and the scare he got from the Police, not to mention the poor reputation the school received because many in the area know what happened is more than a satisfying reward for us...Like I said: Luckily my son wasn't hurt...and perhaps it is YOU who needs disciplining if you have to hide behind a screen name to post these types of ignorant posts.
Thanks for the heads-up...hopefully people will stay clear of that website.
report them to the better business bureau in New Jersey: www.bbb.org
You could even try the attroney general's office in that State. Hope this helps!
He got punch by an instructor who was an adult and he a child...adults have no right to put hands on children---period! We are great parents and will not have to prove that you ...he's a black belt yes and did not use hs skills to hurt anyone which is contrary to what the INSTRUCTOR DID! Use your common sense in judging the situation...the POLICE agreed and arrested him. This is a crime and constitutes harrassment. I dont know what neck of the woods you're from but in mine, you hit a kid and its wrong-plain and simple and my son was NOT BULLYING OR TAUNTING...he was part of a group of 3 kids teasing the instructor who is 19 years old showing pics of his girlfriend to 10-12 year olds. Look at the entire picture and tell me what YOU would have done in this situation...Most parents would have kicked the instructor's ###...he's lucky he did not hurt my son.
Csandz:
Your the only arrogant fool who corrolates joking with bullying and picking a fight! Do you not know how to read? Were you ever 11? Obviousy too old to remember what is was to be 11 years old or probably 3 and still wet behind the ears...obviously you know nothing about martial because if you did, you'd know it is not to be used for violence and as far as being good parents we taught our son well to walk away from such a situation because another person would have wooped the instructor's a**
No need for name calling on a forum meant to help other consumers avoid similar experiences and the only reason I resorted to it is because YOU DID.
Thanks for the heads up! I hope you find the bag you really wanted =)
Trevor I appreciate your support...my son is by no means an angel but this attack was uncalled for and he wasn't taunting or bullying anyone...it was a person he looked up to as a mentor in a teaching environment...I am sure the "instructor" if he even deserves to be called that learned his lesson.
Zachary: I'm so sorry that happened to you...take care.
The only people who have a right to discipline any child is the parent! WTF you or anyone thinks they are to be putting hands on other people's kids?! Jason is probably one of those grown men out there with not enough b*lls to step to man their own size so they resort to picking on little kids...without scrupples!
well you shouldn't be saying that anybody deserves to be hit...at 17 you should know better...but if a 17 year put his hands on my son, my son would defend himself with no problem. Jason...when you become an adult and a parent, perhaps you will understand. You still wet behind the ears.
wow and that means you have HUGE B*LLS...such a fool...Karate is not Tae Kwon Do..isn't it past your bedtime?
Again this was not in the course of training or teaching. This was in the course of recreational time. He has NO RIGHT to punch a child in the stomach...PERIOD! The punch was full force and the POLICE agreed. Martial Arts training shows control, discipline and character all traits this instructor lacked and as a mentor to the younger students, he should not reacted to a tease from 3 kids regarding his girlfriend which quite frankly, he has no business sharing pics of her with the kids. They aren't there for that.
Respect is something that's earned and not granted without earning it. I don't care what realm its in. Hitting is not a way to get anyone to respect you especially if you Punch them in the stomach and their a minor and you're an adult. That would be considered bullying someone smaller than you and Tae Kwon Do does not teach this.
well, the other kids kept on and this was an ongoing joke between the instructor who was a newly appointed mentor and intructor and the kids. We can agree to disagree but I for one would never put my hands on a child, and I too, am a black belt.
Honestly, I don't know why he singled out my son..apparently, my son was the closest one out of the 3 kids...the kids said it could have been any one of them...its was an angry reaction that he acted out...I later found out he has aggression issues.
complain265's opinions does not matter here because she is a direct result of what happens when you load yourself with fast foods day and night and why kids get taken away from fat a**holes like this. Further, she is a racist and I would hate to see what happens to her when she bumps into someone who will show her exactly what words like hers deserve. I wish I could be a fly on the wall when this happens. As for you telling me I can't say anything, when you grow the courage to face people in person and say the things you say, then perhaps I will entertain your stupidity but until then...you are just a waste of life and need to go refill your prescription for Xanax and Lexapro. Toodles!
Jason:My son told the initial story but as a parent who recalls being 11, I verified it with the other kids in the class. The story was exactly the way told to me by my son. if this was an act of discipline and not an outright attack, the instructor and owner should have presented the situation as such and not as unprofessionally as they did. Like I said, the police also agreed what took place here was wrong. For those who agree that the instructor's behavior was acceptable, I pray you never have anything like this happen to you.
For those who benefit from being forewarned about places and incidents like this which is what this FORUM is SUPPOSE to be for, I am glad I was able to provide insight before something worse could happen.
I won't be returning to this site again since I see there are some immature kids as well as adults here and I have no time for foolish jargon.
To Jason: Thank you for admitting you are the one with foolish jargon and immature ways but no sweety, don't give yourself so much credence. Obviously, you know what kind of nuisance you are so I won't go into giving you anymore attention.
Takumi: I did not punish my son for joking with the instructor about the instructor's girlfriend. You ask if I punished him and if you hinting that if I hit him because of this, absoulutely NOT! I spoke with him about it in great detail and my son knows that his behavior is not consistent with the teachings he's learned at home and at the school. He also is aware that perhaps his joking may have hurt the instructor's feelings and thereby instead of the instructor addressing the behavior in another manner with the 3 KIDS, not just one, he chose to use physical abuse which is inconsistent with Tae Kwon Do's purpose. Further, my son wears his black belt proudly because he did earn it with hard sweat, discipline, perserverance and dedication. My son cannot be compared to an adult who is there to be an example and mentor to these CHILDREN...do I need to reiterate that this was an adult hitting a child?! My son is 11...and he earned his black belt which this inicident DOES not take away from. Had HE been the one hitting, then I would agree with your statement that he isn't "mature enough" to hold a black belt but I completely disagree that he is immature to hold it.
When you are in the area of teaching children, be that in school or any type of forum, you have to take on certain responsiblities that come along with that and HITTING a child is not part of that equation...PERIOD. I don't CARE how severe the situation is. An adult has NOT right putting hands on a minor. There are other ways to handle situations and we are suppose to set the example. To the contrary shows a lack of good upbringing on the part of the adult and lack of good common sense not to mention lack of self control.
Kuehnau:
My advice to you is that in the future you take the time to read the entire post before you throw your 2 cents into the mix.
Just to clear it up a few things for you:
There was no fight, no bullying.
My son was dealt with by his PARENTS accordingly.
The joke was an ongoing joke started by the instructor himself when he began showing off pics of his girlfriend to the kids in the class.
The instructor was being PAID to supervise the kids and serve as a mentor, and teacher. Obviously, he is neither.
As for you implying that hitting is okay in a Tae Kwon Do class, if its during the exercise drills and practices, performances etc. and under the direction of the Master, it is acceptable. ANY OTHER FORM OF VIOLENCE IS NOT CONDONED IN THAT REALM NOR IN THE CIVILIAN REALM. Its obvious you know little about Martial Arts.
As for this being an ignorant adult and not an angry gang member, my son was in an educational environment and not in a gang environment. My son was mature enough to walk away from a hostile environment. He could have defended himself and CHOSE NOT TO. Can't say the same for the instructor now can we?
The Police, DA and Judge agreed with us so I am very confident that we did the right thing. If you don't agree, well...take it up with the them.
I just wish the instructor had taken this action on me or my husband. That way, he would have gotten what he truly deserved.
Kuehnau? Is that what they teach you in your neck of the woods (Wisconsin)? Such vulagarities? Did I touch a nerve? My goodness...the name calling you're doing doesn't even deserve addressing. People like you hide behind PC walls to attempt to show their valor.
They would never say those things to someone in their face because the one getting hit in the invisible nut sack may be you (of course, you're not THAT stupid!).
Next time, don't skip your meds.
haha...what's REAL FUNNY is that you think you are upsetting people...AGAIN...please refill your MEDS...you need them =)
