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Team national is making people pay for deals and cashback that you can already find online at places like these free discount and cashback for shopping websites.

Get the same deals for free.

Big crumbs,

And ebates

Team national seems to have found good deals and is charging a ridiculous amount of money for the convenience.
Team national is a mlm multi level marketing company that provides savings off the msrp in almost all cases you would be able to find the same discount from a printable internet coupon or by looking around. Team national scam is what the company should be called. Team national complaints are all over the internet. Team national website doesn't provide people with information because they know that that the only way that they will be able to make people sign up is to put people in the pressure situations in which they feel like they are helping out their family and friends. 800 dollars plus is a lot to help out family. When i search for information about them asking for a list of discounts i notice that it really doesn't tell you much. Every term that i've searched to know about the experience of other people by searching team national scam, team national complaints, team national pyramid scheme, team national review, team national mlm scam and have found that nobody seems happy with the company. The discounts that they provide aren't exlusive to being a member of team national.

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  • Di
      8th of Oct, 2008
    +2 Votes

    Avoid this company. YOu can get discounts even without this company. I spent 2000 for nothing.

  • Cr
      24th of Mar, 2009
    -5 Votes

    Having attended two presentations to join Team National, I can tell you that the only way you can make any money is by recruiting new members to plunk down their $795 or $2195 (depending on which plan you choose).

    The video talks about how much people are saving, but they only use MSRP amounts as their basis for the savings. They say if you save a dollar a day you will recoup your membership fee. But every question I asked regarding savings they admitted I could probably find elsewhere.

    I'm sticking with Big Crumbs
    It's free, easy and works.

  • Sh
      10th of Jul, 2009
    +6 Votes

    We have been with Team National for right at one year and are very pleased. I have received several commission checks from normal purchases, recently took bids on painting our house and then got a bid from a company involved with Team National and saved $1, 000 over the next lowest bid! Best of all, we are seeing that other people see the value and the opportunity that we see and are signing up to be part of our business. We are very excited to help them achieve their dreams as well as ours.

  • Go
      19th of Sep, 2009
    Best Best Advice +24 Votes

    If you watch the video, then you know you have to work at it, just like any other job! I have been with them for 2 months and have found no hidden clauses, everything is out in the open. And the savings are great. I haven't found the same savings at a furniture store and we have been shopping for awhile for new furniture! It is like with anything else you have to work to make money! You know that you are supposed to recruit new members to make money(duh)!! I love this company!

  • Ch
      8th of Feb, 2010
    +11 Votes

    Been apart of Team National since November 2009. Received my first progression check in my first month. Signed a friend of mine up and he was able to save $500 a month on home owners and health insurance! If you are not saving you are not looking and if you are not earning your not working...that's all there is to it.

  • Te
      22nd of Mar, 2010
    +17 Votes

    We have been with Team National Since June of 2009 and have saved big. We built a house and saved over $3, 000.00. We also have received several progression checks simply by sharing with others about our savings. I love this company and enjoy being a part of it. It might be for you and It might not but take time to see the presentation and decide for yourself.

  • Tr
      29th of Mar, 2010
    +13 Votes

    Team National is an incredible company with strong business sense and Godly morals. On the business sense side...they strive everyday to figure a way for its members to pay less. They are not into products (i.e. furniture, jewlery, cars, communications, etc.) which allows its members to buy these items at very low low prices.

    On the Godly morals is very important to me to see a company incorporate its morals into its standards and strategies. TN does just that. Their founder, Dick Loehr, always talked about God being first. They don't just talk this way, they actually live this way. From thier very lucrative, yet equitable way compensation program all the way down to the way its members save tons of money on things they're already spending money on everyday, this company is truly transparent, integrous, and worth everybody at least taking a look at a presentation.

    The worse thing that will happen is you will save some money. The best thing that could happen is that your dreams will be inspired, you will be on your road to financial freedom, and you will be on your way to the lifestyle (which includes "time freedom") that you always dreamed about.

    Time is gonna go by anyway so you might as well find an addt'l income stream (savings or earnings or both) and enjoy the time as it goes by.

    Don't take my word for it, just listen to a presentation.

  • Ob
      3rd of Apr, 2010
    +7 Votes

    Travis: Be careful. Have you ever heard of Affinity fraud? Look it up. I didn't realize TN was using those tactics as well! I attended a TN presentation with an open mind. Immediately I was put off by the deception, and rah-rah cult-like atmosphere! I did a lot of research and I also do financial analysis. The discounts you can get anywhere else such as, so THAT has NO VALUE whatsoever! So, what is your $2100 paying for? There is no product and no viable service being provided! It's simply deceiving more people to join a club with huge fees that offers nothing tangible or intangible of value! This IS a pyramid scheme if I ever saw one! You can make $$$ if you are a very deceptive SALES person, who could sell ice to an Eskimo or fire to the Devil! Can you live with that? Simple mathematics ... an equation must balance, and the ONLY way those higher in the pyramid make $$$ is because MANY others in the downlines lose their "membership investment $$$ to an equal degree! Again, there is NO product or service of value that you cannot get for free!

  • Ob
      3rd of Apr, 2010
    -13 Votes

    I attended a TN presentation with an open mind. Immediately I was put off by the deception, and rah-rah cult-like atmosphere! I have also heard some members are using Affinity fraud tactics as well! I did a lot of research and I also do financial analysis. The discounts you can get anywhere else such as, so THAT has NO VALUE whatsoever! So, what is your $2100 paying for? There is no product and no viable service being provided! It's simply deceiving more people to join a club with huge fees that offers nothing tangible or intangible of value! This IS a pyramid scheme if I ever saw one! You can make $$$ if you are a very deceptive SALES person, who could sell ice to an Eskimo or fire to the Devil! Can you live with that? Simple mathematics ... an equation must balance, and the ONLY way those higher in the pyramid make $$$ is because MANY others in the downlines lose their "membership investment $$$ to an equal degree! Again, there is NO product or service of value that you cannot get for free!

  • Ma
      9th of Apr, 2010
    -11 Votes

    Those people that complain about TN are Lazy and just want a handout anyway. TN is putting Hope, Savings, and Income infront of you. And it all makes sense and works. Wake Up!

  • Eu
      12th of Apr, 2010
    +12 Votes

    I have been approached about TN. I was approached 3 years ago and did not. I am really on the fence about this. I am a Christian and there are 2 other Platinum (highest bracket) members in my small little rural community who are Christians. These people were chicken farmers and now they make hundreds of thousands of dollars per year. These are good people and I just wonder if they know what they're doing.

    My thing is I need to see numbers. I need to see the savings that TN can get and then see if I can get my own. If I can't then I have a substantial product to offer people. If I can, then I am asking people to pay for an intangible good that they can get on their own. I personally, nothing against any one who disagrees, can not live with that. To me this is the reason the dollar has no value anymore. Too many people paying for intangible goods that provide nothing. It just seems a little unethical if that is the case. Does anyone know if this company has a money back guarantee?

    Just wondering about all this.

  • Bu
      15th of Feb, 2018
    +2 Votes

    @Euphrates I will say this I have already saved my membership with installing a new septic system and rebates and insurance in just 3 months

  • Ro
      14th of May, 2018
    -1 Votes

    @bugg42 No you haven't. Tram National is a scuzzy MLM selling an old warhorse of a buyers club. There are literally NO real world savings. Most of the "discounts" can be found anywhere and usually at a better cost. Plus they advertise affiliations with large companies. This is only run of the mill affiliate marketing, you can do this directly with these large company. No need for TN. AVOID.

  • T2
      14th of Apr, 2010
    +1 Votes

    Wow! Are you nuts or what???

  • Ob
      18th of Apr, 2010
    +1 Votes

    Thank you very much for proving my point of TN with your short, pointless statement!!! :-) I have researched TN and supported my opinions in my post with sound, educated reasoning! You're post shows the arrogance and attitude that many TN members possess! You say "I saved this much $$$ or made $$$ by signing more people up". But none of it is supported with facts! It is all a deceptive sales pitch to support the runaway train that will crash! The savings CAN be found anywhere else, period! Let's put it this way ... The first pitch I was given that you can joing for just $30.00/month! Being in finance and having analyzed financial statements, my 1st questions was, "How can people in the upline make the $$$ they say you can make up-front selling memberships, if they only take in $30/month per downline member??? The math didn't work!!! Then I find out it's a $795 up-front fee (which they really didn't seem to push), but moreso the $2195 "lifetime" fee! Then it made sense! That's the ONLY way TN stays in business. They take you're money up front to pay the upline for selling a non-viable service!! If it was such a great service ... why not collect the $30 monthly through ACH withdrawals? If the savings are so great, people would not want to cancel, right??? That would not work! TN has to take you're money up-front! The ONLY way TN members make $$$ is by the decepetion of signing so many people up who lose their money! Unless you are a great sales person who has no conscience, avoid TN at all costs!

  • Ch
      16th of Mar, 2018
    +5 Votes

    @objective opinion I am sorry you are having a hard time with this company. I am not sure what facts you are researching. However, I am not trying to be arrogant or know more than anyone. I am a math teacher and a minister. Integrity is what I live by. My hope is that you would research the facts from actual TN members. Their facts are in their receipts. Also, if you really did your research (which you can do by calling the TN headquarter in Florida) you will find nothing but integrity in every aspect of network marketing.

  • Jo
      19th of Apr, 2010
    -2 Votes

    Team National is an extremely simple program, all the companies that offer discounts are grouped into one location, allowing all to benefit. Who wants to search the entire World Wide Web whenever you want to purchase with a large discount. Team National offers all local companies an opportunity to join and offer their community a discount. This helps both the consumer and merchant. Anyone can join, save on major purchases, save much more than they ever spent on membership and never say a word to any other person. Also, the membership allows all of a members chidren, grand children the same highway to lifetime discounts without having to spend a dime on membership. When a company joins, they can allow up to 5 employees to shop and save without any membership cost. I could list several more benefits that members and their extended family has. Please consider all before making a terrible and negative decision about a company that is simply offering a service that allows others to benefit at whatever level of prosperity they choose. Team National has helped others for over 13 years, if this was a pyramid or unethical company they would have perished long ago. In the future please distinguise between a bad product or something you simply don't care to do. Most people attack things they don't like or don't truly understand. Johnnie

  • Ju
      4th of Dec, 2016
    0 Votes

    @Johnnie Positive If the membership was worth more than the cost u could sell it on ebay. People only pay the 2100 because it's for their "spot" on the mlm pyramid. Everyone is sold the dream of financial independence through direct sales but the truth is 90% of people fail in these ventures. 90% failure is not a "great opportunity" and you have to be a good con artist to convince people otherwise. That's why 90% of people fail. Not everyone is cut out to be a good con artist but kudos to those that are.

  • Ch
      16th of Mar, 2018
    +3 Votes

    @Justin kels4 Not sure where you got 90%. Maybe that seemed like a good number for you. My experience with Team National has been on on integrity. They include all of their numbers on their website. Savings are there--but you have to use the membership. Network marketing is not for everyone. However, I am pretty sure that your job is a pyramid--there is a main boss, who has associates that answer to him/her. Then there are the supervisors who delegate and oversee the team leaders; which of course, train and monitor the workabees on the ground floor. Sounds like a pyramid. Oh yeah, then then there is the thing where we have a family where parents are at the top of the pyramid and train and support and nurture the children at the bottom--who in turn are only superior to the pets as far as the pyramid goes. I am positive that you have not done your research. That's okay. I have. And I have savings every month that are above and beyond what you find on other discount websites. Have fun shopping. It's okay. My savings look every better when people like you are paying retail. You might want to take another look at how Team National works. Just saying.

  • Bi
      6th of Sep, 2010
    +1 Votes

    Avoid this company. YOu can get discounts even without this company. I spent 2000 for nothing.

    Complaint above ^^

    OK, I'm guessing your sitting on the couch and waiting for your 2k to turn around and make your 1500 progession check come next week?? Don't blame anyone or company because your too lazy to get out and work the business. This is a proven system and with any MLM -' you must go out and recruit. Team National is not a scam!! How much money can you make with "bigcrumbs"? This business is for people who WANT it, you and the others on here that are bashing this Company are LAZY! This Membership fee renews itself by simply keeping a website up and running! (75/yr) With the lifetime membership it will allow even your children to get involved for FREE! They can build a business and it only helps whom--YOU. Show me a company that can get you paid by 6 different ways, no products to sell, (unless you wanted to..), no monthly "required" purchases, No quotas, work at your own pace, Time = Money!, Spend No Time get NO money. Some people say TN is a "pyrimid scheme", well it looks like one, but "I" can make more money than some of the people above me!! Can you say that in most business' in the world today? I can easily see where a normal person can make the investment back in a short period of time when saving 50 to 150 a month on things your buying anyway!! Go ahead and include - If you enroll 8 people you would make your first check of 1, 500!! (A comma check!) That is not including IF your 8 people started working this as hard as you did. YES you have to find people to buy into the 795/2195 but I see ZERO cons here! Good Luck TN workers!! Coop from GA

  • Ju
      4th of Dec, 2016
    +1 Votes

    @BirdDawgFan How is a 90% failure rate "lazy". The failure is in the business model. Confidence games are the same as a Ponzi. It only works if everyone stays "conned" and keeps conning others. The proof is that the business could not self sustain on the market value of its over priced product. If TN stopped selling people on the financial freedom MLM dream they would not stay in business on product sales alone. That is the very definition of a confidence game. We will just call it a con game for short and the people that play we can call con artists.

  • Ob
      10th of Oct, 2010
    +19 Votes

    BirdDog ... You refer to the TN membership as a "business". Yet, TN Reps DO NOT market it to people as a business! Their top priority is to "sign-up" as many people as possible to build a downline, and most of those people ARE NOT business people and do not know what their getting into! I've researched TN thoroughly and attended two presentations and was turned off by the rah-rah sales tactics and deception when I asked straight forward questions! Yes, there are sales people out their without a conscience who have a knack for selling anyhting to anybody at anyone's expense. They market the huge savings, yet you can find those same savings in many others places without forking over $2195. With so-called everyday purchases, you save NOTHING! I've found you can save some $$ with mutiple big-ticket items, so if you need to furnish a new house & buy two cars, you might recoup your membership fee. Funny thing is, my brother-in-law joined and was all gung-ho about TN and certainly NOT lazy, as you put it! He spent a lot of time, away from family, w/presentations, but has made NO income, and saved very little. He wanted to buy a new car. Most models are not available though TN Dealers. The nearest GM Dealer through TN ... over 2000 miles away! He found the little bit a savings was not worth it, and saved more working out a deal with a local dealer. Your assumption that people who don't make $$$ in TN are "LAZY", just shows the arrogance of many TN members.

  • Sa
      21st of Nov, 2010
    -14 Votes

    I have been a team national member for a year now. It's great! They teach you how to "fake it till you make it". They also teach you how to lie, and to scam everyone. So what if i am a lier, and all the team national people are liers we are all wealthy. It's all about the money! You all just buy into team national like i did. Lie to everyone, you will make money. "do not come into this business being honest, you will never make money". You have to learn to lie, and scam everyone and you will get rich. I'v lied to so many people and i now make over 1 million dollars a year. Come on, you can lie it's all right as long as you have a good team national member helping you. What'cha got to lose. Nothing!! Do it!! I'v never gotten caught.

  • Ba
      14th of Dec, 2016
    +1 Votes

    @SANDRAJTUTTLE This is the same mindset that drug dealers use, the only difference is, that they make more money in less time.

  • Ch
      16th of Mar, 2018
    +2 Votes

    @BA Bear Glad I am not in Sandra's team. Our team practices the ethics taught by Team National. Integrity is about reproach. I am not sure what you have to lie about Sandra to get people in just so you can make a million dollars. I just know you reap what you sow.

  • Ga
      4th of Jan, 2011
    -6 Votes

    I went to a meeting and have listened to the negative and positive comments. I know that no one has ever made a buck doing nothing (except maybe if your Kim Kardashian). So, obviously it takes work. There seems to be two levels to this company, those who buy in for the daily savings and those who buy in to promote the company and profit by doing so. To be a true pyramid those above you would have to always make more than you do, this doesn't happen all the time with this company. Those who buy in for the savings really can't be compared to other online discounts because you don't receive commission checks back from Kohl's by using other discounts or coupons. I think the negative comments come more from those who bit off more than they could chew. The $$$ amounts of the top sales were like bait for those of us who have no sales ability and no desire to sell but bought in to the $2195 level. If you don't like sales you shouldn't commit to the sales part of the company, stick to the personal savings and networking for services. I personally am drawn to the company for the co-op type of networking for services and advertising for my own business. Just my thoughts...

  • Te
      19th of Jan, 2011
    +4 Votes

    I have been involved a little over a year. While I havent been doing a lot of work, I did get one progression check (1500.00), I bought a 1000 applicance for 650.00, I got a 600.00 cell phone for 40 bucks (and then received a 35.00 commission check back). I got a mattress for a friend (cheapest she could find was 800.00, we got it through TN for a little over 400.00). I could go on...but I won't. Basically what I am saying is that the 2100.00 ONE TIME, LIFETIME membership has more than paid for itself and I will never have to invest another penny. If I wanted to, I could go out and make money promoting this to others, and I may decide to do just that. I have several friends who are involved and they are making BIG money because they are WORKING!!! The key here is like anything else, you HAVE to work. But if you work I can assure you that you will make good money.

  • Ju
      4th of Dec, 2016
    +3 Votes

    @teamgal You have to work to get those discounts. Itso not like you just walk into a business flash your TN card and boom u save $ on everything. In a depressed economy anyone with the slightest amount of negating skills can get savings like u noted with no membership. The membership is obviously overpriced otherwise freaking everyone would buy one in the digital instant feedback marketplace of 2016. There would be a smartphone ap to instantly purchase it. TN I'm sure has a failure rate of around 90% like any mlm where 90% of people make nothing or lose money. If you went to work one day and your boss said he would make you rich if you convinced 90% of your coworkers to lose money on an overpriced product would you do it? Even if u would u kno something is not right about it.

  • We
      20th of Apr, 2011
    +6 Votes

    What a scam We got into it & regret it now...Talk about hidden costs
    It's totally a pyramid scheme

  • Ch
      16th of Mar, 2018
    +1 Votes

    @weene all the costs are on your application up front. and by the way, research your pyramid scheme.

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