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STAY AWAY FROM THESE BREEDERS! I received a cat cat from a different breeder and because I didn't get a cat from ginger exotic OR terrifying Tiffany I've been harassed and cyber bullied by these two women. Honestly, the evilness they showed toward me isn't even half as bad as some other friends who purchased cats from others. Because of this actual slander and harassment I feel it is time to expose these evil people.

If you have purchased a cat from Tiffany or ginger have been scammed... your cat has either been bred by an unhealthy parent or had barely any Scottish fold in it and on top of the half unknown pedigree which was cancelled it has a small percentage of Scottish and then Domestic shorthair aka stray cat which can be found at any local shelter... here's the complaint board with Tiffany's pedigree. I would ask for your money back if I were you. I also have tons of evidence with her breeding unhealthy cats and harassing people who purchase from other breeders. She is bad news stay away.

First photo is Tiffany allowing breeders to make unhealthy cats

Second is Tiffany admitting to breed unhealthy cats to their siblings
STAY AWAY FROM CUDDLY SCOTTISH FOLDS & WUNDERFOLDS

Third is Ginger admitting to her pedigree being inbreeding that another breeder has "never seen so much"

Fourth, Tiffany advocating to sell unhealthy kittens 😭😭😭 don't support animal abuse PLEASE

And here's proof her cats are unhealthy AF for the 5th.

Also (6th) "don't cross her" or she might make profiles and come for your life... I know people she harassed so hard they've been in months of therapy over it...

The 7th is tough to swallow...
"Why doesn't she just die already"?
PLEASE DONT SUPPORT A HARASSER AND REAL ANIMAL ABUSER LIKE THIS WOMAN. She has abused cats, cat owners who are dealing with siblings dying, sexual assault victims, anything she can find to hurt people... I beg you. Don't support cuddly Scottish folds or wunderfolds. They are real abusers and ever penny given to them is more fuel added to the fire.

I can only link one cattery website so the others is https://wunderfolds.com/

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Sep 23, 2021 8:42 am EDT

Dylan (white elephant cattery) only cares about dollar signs.

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Sep 23, 2021 8:41 am EDT

This is between me and reputable breeder about Dylan (white elephant cattery) trying to sell me parent and child to breed.

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Sep 23, 2021 8:39 am EDT

Wow looks like white elephant cattery has been going after all good breeders. I see nothing has been true and just lies from a crook. Dylan Pizzurro also tried scamming me. I will share the screen shots.

Some information about me. I am a brand new breeder just starting out this adventure. I want to make sure i educate myself and do everything correct so i can better this breed. I contacted Dylan about her cats and lines. She tried to sell me a parent and their child for breeding. I saw the cats all on her Instagram page and when i confronted her she blocked me. Stay away from this scammer never came across anyone so dishonest and manipulative.

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Sep 23, 2021 8:34 am EDT

https://www.complaintsboard.com/white-elephant-cattery-scamming-inbreeding-c1309240

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Sep 20, 2021 10:28 am EDT
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This abuser inbreeds all her cats. Kittens to both parents, littermates and then back to parents. Even after she was WARNED multiple times not to do this from us!

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Sep 20, 2021 10:26 am EDT
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Here is another conversation Brianna insisting on inbreeding dominant eyes which is very dangerous and buying a very already inbred cat. After doing my own research, i told her i learned how dangerous this is and i advised her to reach out to breeders with experience in this. She obviously ignored me and Gingers advice.

At the same time she was breeding her cats only 5-8 weeks after birth. We told her this is extremely unethical and abuse. She did it again after being warned blaming her husband. (I’ll attach those screen shots also) no excuse.

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Sep 20, 2021 10:18 am EDT
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Sep 20, 2021 10:16 am EDT
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Full conversation attached. I have to upload one at a time.
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Sep 20, 2021 10:15 am EDT
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Conversation with Brianna Shabdue/ fake alias Dylan Pizzurro/Bri Cooper,

We were discussing inbreeding and i myself have never done it but read it was ok. Ginger told us both it was a bad idea and you have to know the lines very well and be very careful.

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Sep 03, 2021 8:07 am EDT
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Regarding the allegations of inbreeding, we will attaching ss of Dylan attempting to sell very inbreed kittens to start a new breeder's cattery.
Ponyo x Jelly = Goku and Gummy Bear
Kept both those kittens back for her program and
Bred Goku to Ponyo (his mom)= Juice who she also kept back.
Brianna offered a client that was starting a cattery to take Goku as her new stud, plus a kitten from that pairing of Goku x Ponyo. That would be a sibling and parent mating all in one inbred package. We have multiple times told her some breeders will inbred to set lines when she asked about it. We also told her you absolutely DO NOT breed back to the inbred lines. They must be outcrossed for 3 gen and must know the lines and any issues very well, which as a newbie breeder just starting, she certainly did not.
She has left ss alledging we inbred, which is not the case. There was a pedigree from one of our cats we imported that had some line breeding, which is what she's referring to, but this was not produced in Tiffany or Ginger's cattery, and we both multiple times warned her of the dangers of line breeding. Screenshot of the not cherry picked version on the group chat where we told her to not inbreed are attached.

We did have a group chat with Dylan, and I see many messages have been removed by Dylan of anything that she thought we could use in our favor once she launched this attack. Little did she know, we were so in shock about her ethics and behavior, that we discussed the situation in private about what she did. She asked us when she should breed Ponyo again after she had a litter of kittens. We asked aren't her kittens still tiny and she said 5 weeks old! We told her absolutely NOT! 12 weeks post absolute earliest, and better 4 to 6 months, but a year later is best! The next day, she messages and said her husband let her stud out accidentally and he bred that cat. Yea, right. That was no accident. She also had a girl have a miscarriage that should have had a full 2 weeks of antibiotics and a couple more weeks (at minimum) post treatment before considering rebreeding. Of course, this cat had one week of meds before she told us she had went ahead and bred her again, 1 week after her miscarriage! Screenshots of the private chat between Tiffany and Ginger are attached, because Dylan has made sure the evidence was removed from the chat with all 3 of us.

I want to make one final statement addressing these accusations from this anonymous account. We were previously affiliated with White Elephant Cattery, Dylan Pizzurro aka Brianna Shabdue aka Bri Cooper. We were informed several weeks ago that this person was a suspected thief and con artist in several different states under several different names. Despite our efforts to teach her excellent breeding ethics, we also discovered she was inbreeding and crossbreeding resulting in sick and dying kittens. After receiving many messages detailing her very dark past, stealing, her scams, fake fundraising, and bad breeding regarding dogs AND cats we had no choice but to cut all ties. If you simply Google her real name you will find plenty of evidence against her. Since we have separated ourselves from her, she has started a spiteful campaign trying to ruin our reputation. Under multiple fake accounts, she has left untrue reviews and posted messages out of context in an attempt to make me and Ginger look bad. You can see 350 five star authentic reviews if you search for my business on Google, and also through my Facebook group that has nearly 8, 000 supporters. For anyone that wants to have a discussion about this post and see the evidence I have regarding my cats please contact me at [email protected] I also have dozens of messages from victims of this "backyard breeder" if you're interested in those well. I have nothing to hide from anyone. I have only ever acted in the benefit of my customers, and for the betterment of the breed. This negative review is purely from a jealous and spiteful con artist.

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Aug 19, 2021 10:09 am EDT
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Lots more proof to come sorry for anyone who has to read this. White elephant cattery- Brianna Shabdue aka dylan Pizzuro aka bri cooper has been making fake accounts to lurk” for years. This is all part of her manipulation.

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Aug 19, 2021 10:08 am EDT
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I have never taken money from anyone. I work for free bc i love animals and this breed is my favorite.

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Aug 19, 2021 10:06 am EDT
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Also i have never acted as a broker. I’m addition to spending my time and own money i never have accepted money from ANY breeder for helping place a kitten in a good home or helping send money to them. I will post here my most recent proof of this and can share dozens more example of you would like to email me [email protected] I am a one of a kind person and breeder. If you worked with me you know how generous i am.

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Aug 19, 2021 10:00 am EDT
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As for the account Brook Lynn the reason i tag myself is to have the photos both places. I never have told anyone my name is Brook or have people calling me Brook. This account was made for sole purpose when i started a community group which has 13, 000 members for the well being of my community and that account Brooklyn manages the Brooklyn Facebook group which can be seen here for proof and how i started it for the good of my community several years ago.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/oneandonlybayridge/

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Aug 19, 2021 12:13 am EDT
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Proof even though there is no refunds on deposits i was going to find a way to refund and This fraud said it’s ok let the client lose their money.

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Aug 19, 2021 12:11 am EDT
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Hi you seem to be very confused other kittens shared a flight with you to save you 1000 on the flight. You paid 2500 for your silver scottish fold kitten with the flight from Europe the flight was split so you didn’t have to pay more your kitten was booked first and a deposit paid. I ended up having to have my husband spend 10 hours to pick up extra kittens to save you money.

I will add the screen shot of Brianna Shabdue or her alias dylan saying it was fine for you to loose money bc she doesn’t give a rats [censored] about you or anyone.

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Aug 19, 2021 10:20 am EDT
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If that’s the case, it doesn’t hurt to be transparent up front. I was never given the option to pay additional or save money by shipping together, the decision was made for me before I even reserved her. I was never explained that my cat would be shipped with 5 other cats that I would have to literally import under my name until the week of, and even then I don’t think it was really explained to me. In fact it was never explained to me until all of the issues were caused with the carrier. Tell your husband I said thank you. I /also/ had to drive 13 hours to “save money.” I picked Atlanta because of COVID and availability not because of costs. I would have gladly had her shipped closer to my home rather than make that drive. My kitten was advertised as shipping being included in her cost, with the reasoning it was “included” never being disclosed. I would have gladly paid extra to have her not only shipped closer to me but also to not have imported 5 other cats under my name. Thank you for letting me know about her papers outside of this thread, I really appreciate it. I’ll add a comment to my post below making note of that and updating it since I can’t delete comments. but I still do not feel like the entire delivery and pick up situation was ideal, transparent, or possibly even legal. It would have been nice if it would have been disclosed and explained well before the week of delivery.

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Aug 19, 2021 10:57 am EDT
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If you wanted delivery to your airport that definitely could have been discussed. I did not hear that from you. Also this was the very beginning of covid pandemic when flights were limited and very complicated. We try our best and to save money for our clients as much as we can. The process that once was changed at this time and everyone in America rolled with the punches of a new virus. It is also most definitely completely legal to share plane tickets and this is done all the time. It reduces costs for people by half or less. I have never had anyone opt for getting their kitten by themselves and pay more. Of course if there was someone who did not want to and wanted to pay their own flight they can they would just have to say that but i have never had anyone want to pay more and have their own flight.

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Aug 14, 2021 5:39 pm EDT
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Also to add, it’s refreshing to see her admit to threatening to falsely accuse a complaining customer of being an animal abuser. Either her “friends” or her through fake accounts messaged me trying to slander another breeder she had beef with. I guess they didn’t like that I defended the other breeder (even offered to help resolve their claim of being scammed by the other breeder by messaging them and asking which platform they sent their apparent payment on) before realizing it was a fake account and all 4 accounts that have messaged and harassed me since were easily tied back to Tiffany through her Scottish fold cuddly kittens Facebook page on her earlier posts under “Brook Lynn.” (This is her second Facebook. Strange she goes by a DIFFERENT NAME? Odd even has “Tiffany Marie” in parentheses and she tags her main account in a lot of the profile posts. Maybe one Facebook for each personality she has? Who knows). Back to my point. Her and her “friends” (or fake profiles, whatever you want to call it) proceeded to attack me and threatened to harass me and accuse me of being an animal abuser. All for defending another breeder as being an ethical one and eluding to the cat I had gotten from another breeder (one through Scottish fold cuddly kittens) being less than quality? How crazy. Having good things to say with a breeder Tiffany doesn’t like doesn’t warrant me being harassed for both my physical appearance or threatening to slander me and harass all of my friends letting them know I’m an “animal abuser.” Makes you wonder if more people have tried to speak out and she’s just insane and does whatever she can to retaliate. Learn from your mistakes, correct your business model, be HONEST to your customers, and MOVE ON! you’re too old to be harassing another breeder tiffany. You’re too old to be harassing customers that are upset and didn’t have a good experience. Not everyone will. Complaints happen all of the time! Do better and be better, and maybe consult a therapist because what the heck is up with all of this? Crazy crazy. This is not what they mean whenever they say, “crazy cat lady.” You’re taking it to a whole new level.

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Aug 19, 2021 12:14 am EDT
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Another lie i have you Aly telling me you joined my group and Brianna Shabdue saying you were on her list for 6 months. So one of you is a pathological lier. Maybe colorful chaos is the scammer dog killer Brianna Shabdue /white elephant cattery

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Aug 19, 2021 10:46 am EDT
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Which part are you claiming is exactly the lie? You literally received “messages” from “Tino” who conveniently deactivated his/her account the other day after I shared all of the creepy coincidences that tied those 4 accounts to either you or a friend of yours. You all also speak/type the same whenever you’re making accusations. I’m willing to rebuttal a couple of the things I mentioned in my older comments on here because we’ve talked since I posted those and things have been clarified, but continuing to accuse me of things doesn’t make me want to as I specifically asked to be left out of this going forward. Please stop sharing my personal info and my messages without my permission (especially since a requirement of this site is the complaint/comments cannot be second hand experiences or someone else’s reviews). I appreciate you answering and addressing my hesitations/concerns I had, but I’m not sure why this is still going at this point. These comments were posted before we chatted. Also, I’m not sure where I ever stated to you that I only joined her waitlist after joining your group? All I see is me emphasizing that I’m on a wait list with another recommended breeder in the group…literally cannot see anywhere in our conversations via Facebook or text messages where I told you I joined your group and THEN found the other cattery. I had contacted multiple breeders before I ever found your Facebook group and had inquired about multiple wait lists. Your group just solidified my confidence in going with the one I had went with as some of the ones I had been communicating with were indeed backyard breeders. The very first cattery I ever found was in fact your friend Ginger’s (found back in December 2019) and was going to contact her about her wait list but she didn’t seem to have the coat color I was looking for at the time and her website said she didn’t take waitlists for certain colors or something to that extent. So if you want to get really technical we can, I’m not sure I still have the email back and forth with Dylan where I first reached out or joined the waitlist but if needed I can check. As long as your friends/fake accounts leave me alone and quit harassing me and you stop sharing my personal information on these boards, I’ll quit posting. So whenever I see that this is all over, my personal info is no longer being posted, and I’m no longer being accused of being a “pathological liar” and fake, I’ll add an updated remark contradicting some of the negative remarks in my comments that we’ve since discussed and resolved. But I’m not going to until I can see you’re actually done involving me in your battle with the other breeder. Please.

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Aug 14, 2021 5:23 pm EDT
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How awful. She lied to me about why they couldn’t give me a refund on my $500 deposit (said the plane ticket was already purchased in my name and would try to transfer it) but the plane ticket was for SIX CATS? she put it in my name but with her contact info. That is so sketchy. Her husband didn’t even know which cats he was to pick up whenever he arrived, he walked off leaving me with 5 cats total (taking only the one they shipped my actual cat with) and all of their pet passports/any documentation. I think the only reason I found out about this was because the partner she worked with messaged me asking why I hadn’t answered the carrier company yet? Well, that would be because it was in my name but with Tiffany’s email and phone number. Super super sketchy. She couldn’t refund the deposit because she had already bought the ticket for SIX cats in my name and for whatever reason can’t use her own? Said the reason my name was listed for all 6 and not my contact info was so I could get my cat first, but her husband was there almost the same time we were and we had to cat sit 5 other cats. I still don’t have my registration papers for the cat I got through Scottish fold cuddly kittens either. Tiffany may not have been her breeder, but I signed my contract with Scottish fold cuddly kittens and tiffany handled everything like a broker. I wouldn’t be surprised if the reason I never got my cat’s official papers is because they all lie about pedigrees and registration, etc…she lied and scammed people about ice peak’s pedigree, wouldn’t surprise me if there were more like that in her cattery and with her breeding partners.

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Aug 19, 2021 12:29 am EDT
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Please show your proof i scammed anyone. I would like to see this because this is simply not true. Also please show me where you ever contacted me to say there was anything wrong with your kitten? We have a full refund policy for life on any of our kittens. I also discuss ocd risks with all my clients and have it in BOLD letters in our contract so everyone acknowledges the risk of ocd in all folded ear kittens.

Brianna Shabdue no matter what lies you say you have no proof bc it’s lies. You can try snd cover up the fact on google your a dog killer but i don’t care. My life is animals and you can not scare me.

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Aug 19, 2021 10:03 am EDT
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We give registration papers for our partner cattery imports with proof of neuter since we don’t promote back yard breeders and scammers. Please post your proof /screen shots you asking me for registration papers or sending me spay/neuter documents? I’ll wait….. because this is all lies I’m sure this proof won’t be posted here. Just more lies from a animal abuser

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