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Vanguard Innovations review: Scam 47

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The charges
For wasting people's time, for getting their hopes up, for being a white collar multi-level marketing cult, and most of all, for acts of deception –Vanguard Innovations & Cydcor is on my list.

The Proof
I went to an interview in Westlake, and they said it was an interview for a job in management. They then asked me to spend a half of my day being a door to door salesman without pay -- canvasing -- which is not something I go to interviews to do. I wish they would have said that in their job posting so I could have avoided the whole experience. I found the whole thing cloaked in deception and I wanted to warn others. When I looked, I found that others had similar or other greivences with Cydcor and Cydcor's parent company.

Please Google the following;
• Cydcor Hiring Numbers -- Summer 2008
• Cydcor Employee waited 5 weeks for first pay check
• Letter from a Cydcor "leader"
• Letter from Cydcor employee
• Cydcor & Ds-max demystified
• Same deceptive interviews
• Letter that I received
• Top Flight Cydcor
• Cydcor Deception in San Diego, CA
• 2005 Letter with Cydcor Information

The interview was at 2:30pm and there were 4 people waiting for their interview when I arrived. Then the interviewer took us two at a time -- which is strange. Have you ever been to an interview with another applicant in the same room? The guy (BIG JERK) who interviewed us spun a tale about how Vanguard was a big growing company and how they needed to train managers and how they wanted us to become those managers. He also told us were moving up in the company and how they wanted us to move up too. At the end of the quick lecture, he told us she's interviewing 24 people that day and that she will call 2 of us back for a round II interview. The whole interview took 14 minutes. I received his call that evening, and he said, "you're in luck...show up for round II at 12:30..." The person I had interviewed with was called back too. In fact, I suspect everyone was called back -- not just 2 out of 24. On my round II I was the door to door "trainee" and I could the rep mention Cydcor when calling in the sale.

So I did some searches on the internet and found some interesting pieces of information about Cydcor: A report from a disillusioned Cydcor Employee he had a strangely similar interview experience. I'm always the last to know, but I also found information about how Cydcor, a division of DSMax, is already an infamous multi-level marketing cult. I also found an example of a zealous and typically innocent (naive, blind) Cydcor employee drone the day she starts, Aug. 18th, (check out the blog archive for August 14th, She deleted the blog entries of September 22, 2002 and October 26, 2002 because of the the comments others had posted to her saying Cydcor sucks, or that it is otherwise a rotten, evil, scam or a fraudulent, misleading rip off. But here's where she says she quit Cydcor on Nov. 19th 2002.

Needless to say, I'm should have never even gone in for their round II interview, otherwise known as Cydcor "death of a salesman" march. But because of my curiosity I researched more.

Because lately, many other people have reported that they have encountered cydcor subsidaries doing business under the following names: Aurora Marketing Group, The Advertisment Group, DSMax, Crescent International, SC Marketing Group in Louisville, KY; JSTARR Advertising, Platinum Marketing ("they are in the process of changing there name to Madison Marketing"), Emprise, Arsene-Lee Advertising Group, International Marketing Strategies, MJ Promotional Group/Trinity Advertising, both part of grantonmarketing.com -- granton marketing/dsmax has three other divisions in massachusetts: JSJ & Associates, the Kaizen Group, and MPMD, Inc -- Gemini Communications in Austin, Texas, Playermakerpromo.com, Lear Marketing Group and Black Diamond Solutions are parts of cydcor.com in Columbus, OH., "R3 Enterprises" winter park, FL, niko-laos in tampa, fl., Niko-Laos in Tampa, FL., Northside Marketing, Quantum Marketing Group, Strictly Advertising, Inc. (Miami, FL), Wentworth Marketing in Denver, "Compass Global Network" in Dallas TX, "Greco Marketing" in San Francisco, CA., The Yasny Group in Irvine CA, Westward Innovations of Phoeniz, AZ., MJ Promotional Group of Cincinnati, OH, Jenlyn Consulting in Houston TX. Marketing Sessions (chicago area), SASMarketing Group (also chicago area), DeFrancesco Aquisitions, Inc. located in Pittsburgh, PA., The Advertising Group, Inc in SF CA, Gen X Promotions Cincinnati, Ohio "(the writer thinks there's also subsidary called Bravo Promotions, but they may be out of Indianapolis)", D.B. Consulting, J.S. & Associates, Darr Innovations, Top Flight Enterprises located in Pittsburgh, PA., Top Flight Enterprises located in Pittsburgh, PA., Aspirations, Inc. in Virginia Beach, VA., Hilltop Solutions, Inc., located in San Diego., The Everest Group, or Cambridge Communications (also Premier Marketing Concepts from Melville NY). Atlantic Consulting located in East Rutherford, NJ. Wincor, Inc., Seattle, WA (actually there office is in Renton), Woodlynn Advertising, Inc. in Houston TX, The Everest Group, Inc. DUNN HILL ENTERPRISES, Yenkro Enterprises, Inc. Greco Marketing, DeFrancesco Acquisitions, Direct Link Marketing, COR Concepts, JM Concepts, and Triple Crown Marketing ect., 5 Point Marketing, Elite promotional Group

People have said the following groups are also Cydcor, The Advertising Group or DSMax groups. (added December 2005): MC MARKETING SOLUTIONS out of Pittsburgh, PA, Advertising Endeavors out of Baltimore, Maxson Marketing out of Vancouver; 1 Reality Enterprises and Revolution Marketing in Onterio; Blue Link Marketing and Victory Promotions in Chicago; Arbordahl & Associates in the Chicago area; Infinite Marketing Solutions, Kodo Marketing Initiatives, and Sea to Sky Marketing Group located in the Vancouver area of Bristh Columbia, Canada; Niko-Laos, now called RDK and Associates out of Miami, FL; Image Imports from Nashua New Hampshire; Malloy International and The Marketing Firm in Chicago; Cydcor Puerto Rico http://www.cydcor-puertorico.com ; Johnson Marketing Insights" (http://jminsights.com/home.htm); DeFrancesco Aquisitions, Inc., listed as in Pittsburgh, PA, is now located in Pennsauken, NJ and run by Dave DeFrancesco; Dynamic Marketing Concepts in Atlanta; Protege Marketing Group and Marketing Concepts from Houston TX; Kaleb-Lee and Associates out of Jacksonville FL; Aurora Marketing Group; Innovage; Macon Marketing Group and Bam Solutions out of Portland, Oregon; Wiz Pro Marketing to Esquire Marketing Concepts Winter Park, FL; Westward Innovations; Power Point Marketing; Pereira Marketing Group from white plains NY; Thornwell Inc. in Charlotte, NC; Arsene-Lee Advertising group SF, CA; Verdigris Marketing Group, Inc. and Rocky Mountain Marketing in Kansas City, Missouri; 360 Solutions (Columbus, OH) Kinetic Solutions (Columbus, OH) Pier Innovations (Milwaukee, WI) Langdon Promotional Group (Milwaukee, WI) Elite Business Concepts (Milwaukee, WI) Victory Promotions (Chicago, IL) Arbordahl & Associates (Niles, IL); Kings Ridge Inc. in Richmond Va; Wentworth marketing Atlanta, GA; Momentum Marketing; The Ad Group (TAG) http://www.tagcal.com/

Cydcor subsidaries are likely to have offices all over America with different names. Let me know if you find one that is not on this list by putting the name of the company followed by the location on it's own line in your email, I'll see that it will eventually get on this page.

Not convinced? Read this comprehensive explanation of what's going on with Cydcor, Ds-max and their 1000's of affiliate companies Still not convinced? Please check out [redacted]. This business needs to be shut down.

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KCGirlinOhio
Vermilion, US
Nov 10, 2010 1:29 pm EST

I cannot tell you how glad I am that you all were gracious enough to share this information. I already went to an initial "interview" with JJB Consulting and was also called by Vanguard Innovations for one as well. Jason at JJB Consulting acted like he was reading from a script during my interview and didn't even crack a smile or pretend to be friendly. Nothing but business attitude, no personality at all. Then stated that after he reviewed my resume and had other interviews, he would decide on "just a few select people" that he would call for a 2nd interview, which was supposed to be a "job shadow." He called and wanted me to come in tomorrow... didn't ask when might be good or if I was available. I had a gut feeling something wasn't right and you confirmed it! THANKS for preventing me from any more time wasted AND false hope!

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Jessicad22
Akron, US
Oct 21, 2010 10:00 am EDT
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AGREE, This one is in Ohio as well. They have changed their name several times.

Business Name:

JJB Consulting, Inc.

Business Address: 18051 Jefferson Park Rd Ste 105
Cleveland, OH 44130
See the location on a Mapquest Map
See the location on a Google Map
Principal:
Jason Braughler
Phone Number:
[protected]
Fax Number:
[protected]
BBB Accreditation: This business is not a BBB Accredited Business

Type of Business:
MARKETING CONSULTANTS
Website Address:

http://www.keystoneintl.net

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JobSearching32
Tallmadge, US
Oct 19, 2010 8:14 am EDT

Looks like they changed their website to http://vanguarwit.com/

Still in Westlake, same Center Ridge Road address...

Thank you for posting this so I didn't drive an hour for nothing. ;-)

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ginacip
Independence, US
Sep 02, 2010 10:21 am EDT
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I completely agree! I was going to write my own report on this company but GottaLoveLebron summed it up nicely.

Vanguard assumes that you are so desperate for a job that you will just give in an take their offer. When making appointments for interviews, they tell you when to come in. Never asking when you are available for an interview.

During my first interview, I asked what my daily duties would be, I was told I would find out during a second interview of "job shadowing." Actually it was door to door sales. Then, I was offered the position after my 3 hours of door to door sales, and they expected me to make a decision on the spot! Of course, I was not going to take this position, but that is still a ridiculous expectation of a possible employee.

They would not give me a description of the job, as I mentioned. They would not show me the offices or let me see the day-to-day runnings of business. During my second interview, I was still not told what to do, but told to follow my "rep" for the day and someone who was learning his job. I proceeded to get into his own personal vehicle with him. I can't even believe I did this!

This is an unprofessional company that preys on naive, desperate, young "kids, " right out of college (mostly).

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ohiodragon
Warrensville Heights, US
Jul 08, 2010 12:12 pm EDT

I agree...don't post your resume public to places like hotjobs on yahoo.com...I have had several scam interviews from Tribe, Vanguard Innovations, JDB Inc., etc. and all of them called me and wanted to schedule a interview immediately.

Word of advice...Stay away from the above mentioned companys and ask questions when they call like if it is an hourly, commission, or a draw. Ask what the company does and what position they are hiring for. If they don't answer your question and try to avoid answering it...then HANG UP!

These places are a waste of time and too depressing!

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maverik098
, US
Jun 16, 2010 9:44 am EDT

I had the same experience. I went along with it for about a week. After 10 to 12 hour days with no real progress and a BS presentation about Cydcor and the ammount of money you could make, researched Cydcor that night, I quit the next day. And for 50+ hrs i got a $50 check... 5 months later!
Stay away from the companies mentioned above including Wordwide Marketing in Columbus.

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intervieweeCLE
Cleveland, US
May 27, 2010 8:09 am EDT
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I COMPLETELY AGREE
I READ THIS POST AHEAD OF TIME, BUT DECIDED TO CHECK IT OUT FOR MYSELF>>>
IT WAS NOTHING BUT AN ELABORATE WAY TO LIE TO INTERVIEWEES AND GET THEIR HOPES UP! UNREAL ACTUALLY HOW FAR THEY REALLY DID GO TO NOT SAY THIS IS A DOOR TO DOOR SALES JOB. YOU ARE SELLING U VERSE TO ALREADY LOYAL AT&T CUSTOMERS.

IT WAS RIDICULOUS!